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[mr_random]

You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?

No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed.

why ?

Everyone knows what a PR guy should be paid (industry standard), so unless your embarrassed by the amount in some way, just state it.

Lol at asking why.

I wouldn't be happy with the whole world knowing what I earn. He's not anonymous you know, he operates under his real name and is clearly linked to this project.

[wooder]

You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this.

No such claim was made.

We claimed to have part-funded the project with the premine. Read the statement earlier.

What you attribute to wordplay on our part is, in fact, lack of comprehension on your part.


(Do you understand why 95% of your posts get deleted? You pay scant attention to the facts of a matter.)

It is written in the reddit thread that the premine will be managed in a transparent way.
Will a list be released that shows what for the premine was exactly used at least in grouped amounts?

[mr_random]

Can we get rid of the following people. They have made their point, no use to keep reiterating it, they clearly come here only to bitch and moan

tylerderden
wooder
UnicornFarts

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

[CryptoGretzky]

Most alt coins say the premine will be used for "future development".   Most of the time though, for scam coins, the dev dump the premine on the exchange as soon as it's listed and that's the end of the coin.

Here we are, with XC, who ACTUALLY USED the premine for "future development"  (5 months now since launched), and FUDDERs whine and whine about the premine being used for that development.

Just STFU and go to those scam coins.   This is not the coin you are looking for if you don't want the premine used properly....

TLDR: Stop fudding and just GTFO

[MemoryShock]

Some of the overly entitled demands being made are just ridiculous.  I took a hit as well and I still have nothing but confidence.  In fact, thanks for making it easier for me to get more XC Inc ITO shares.

So tired of the otherwise invested people coming in here and just being complete wads about every small little detail.  I have read every page and I still see no reason why XC deserves all of this.

Every crypto has had issues due to low volume (which keeps getting smaller thanks to exchange hacks) and the pervasive crypto mentality that "if you don't deliver an artificial intelligence that will make you sandwiches while you're going to the moo0n then you're a scam".

I'm tired of the people who cry at everything in this thread...my goodness.  

[atcsecure]

I know this has been discussed already, but I wish XC came along when i was a more experienced investor. I got caught bagholding and I am at a loss but Ive been lucky to get in on some good pumps and make up for the loss. I still have high hopes for XC and plan to hold onto it now. I was stupid and put 90% of my investment into XC and have lost more than 60% ATM, but my 10% that I have placed into day trading has almost made up for my loss here.

I have accepted the fact that XC is a long term investment, the price now does not reflect its true value and will not for several months it seems. Considering REV 3 will be our biggest milestone yet, I am excited to see the outcome. I think people that are buying XC now are smart because they know they will be able to make some good profit during the REV 3 release.

Generally I don't comment on the price as I have always felt that the project, technology, and commitment by the team would be reflected in the market in the long run


But I am just as "disappointed" with the current price as everybody else is.  However that has zero impact on whats coming in the days, and months ahead.  The goal has always been to embrace the B2B and the B2C markets, and Mobile w/ Point of Sales as a primary driving factor.


I am a firm believer in the power of decentralized blockchain based technology and I am committed in taking XC to the next level.  Clearly monetizing the nodes with blockchain 2.0 technology is the future and bridging existing markets with this technology is the key to success.

Dan

[tylerderden]

You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this.

No such claim was made.

We claimed to have part-funded the project with the premine. Read the statement earlier.

What you attribute to wordplay on our part is, in fact, lack of comprehension on your part.


(Do you understand why 95% of your posts get deleted? You pay scant attention to the facts of a matter.)

yes i have been following XC from the start along with every other coin. the thing is not my lack of comprehension being an issue, its peoples perception of what has transpired that im getting at and its reflection on the other projects affiliated. I totally understand not wanting people to know what you make as a PR guy, that it understandable. BUT you guys are going to have to come to a decision on that information being public if transparency in blocknet is what you are agreeing to. Im not trying to be a dick really, you guys need to get out of damage control mindset and be proactive in allowing this to happen in the first place. My thoughts on all of it shouldnt be your issue, but the entire crypto community and their perception should be. I know FUD and the psychology of this whole ecosystem pretty well and blocknet already has other similar projects on standby looking for ammunition for their FUD brigade. Dont give it to them. I hope you see what im getting at. You have no obligation to me at all but you do have an obligation to the coins that joined blocknet based on your promises. Im not going to say anything more because if you cant see my point than im wasting both of our time.

[atcsecure]

You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this.

No such claim was made.

We claimed to have part-funded the project with the premine. Read the statement earlier.

What you attribute to wordplay on our part is, in fact, lack of comprehension on your part.


(Do you understand why 95% of your posts get deleted? You pay scant attention to the facts of a matter.)

It is written in the reddit thread that the premine will be managed in a transparent way.
Will a list be released that shows what for the premine was exactly used at least in grouped amounts?

Yes this will be done

[synechist]

I agree wholeheartedly that some people on this thread subject us to an absurd amount of paranoid, nickpicking demands.

It would make everyone's lives easier if the habit changed.

The amount of PR I could get done without Bitcointalk threads would be staggering.

[MemoryShock]

I know this has been discussed already, but I wish XC came along when i was a more experienced investor. I got caught bagholding and I am at a loss but Ive been lucky to get in on some good pumps and make up for the loss. I still have high hopes for XC and plan to hold onto it now. I was stupid and put 90% of my investment into XC and have lost more than 60% ATM, but my 10% that I have placed into day trading has almost made up for my loss here.

I have accepted the fact that XC is a long term investment, the price now does not reflect its true value and will not for several months it seems. Considering REV 3 will be our biggest milestone yet, I am excited to see the outcome. I think people that are buying XC now are smart because they know they will be able to make some good profit during the REV 3 release.

Generally I don't comment on the price as I have always felt that the project, technology, and commitment by the team would be reflected in the market in the long run


But I am just has "disappointed" with the current price as everybody else is.  However that has zero impact on whats coming in the days, and months ahead.  The goal has always been to embrace the B2B and the B2C markets, and Mobile w/ Point of Sales as primary driving factor.


I am a firm believer in the power of decentralized blockchain based technology and I am committed in taking XC to the next level.  Clearly monetizing the nodes with blockchain 2.0 technology is the future and bridging existing markets with this technology is the key to success.

Dan

+1

[demgains]

Some of the overly entitled demands being made are just ridiculous.  I took a hit as well and I still have nothing but confidence.  In fact, thanks for making it easier for me to get more XC Inc ITO shares.

So tired of the otherwise invested people coming in here and just being complete wads about every small little detail.  I have read every page and I still see no reason why XC deserves all of this.

Every crypto has had issues due to low volume (which keeps getting smaller thanks to exchange hacks) and the pervasive crypto mentality that "if you don't deliver an artificial intelligence that will make you sandwiches while you're going to the moo0n then you're a scam".

I'm tired of the people who cry at everything in this thread...my goodness.  

speaking of the XC Inc. ITO, it will be based on the amount of XC you hold correct?

[MemoryShock]

The amount of PR I could get done without Bitcointalk threads would be staggering.

Do we even need the BTC talk threads?  There are some other coins who do just fine within their own forums.  All we have here is a place for people to show up and directly bug you guys.  They create their own threads anyway so why put up with it?

Honest question - there might be good reasons and perhaps I am so frustrated with reading drivvle that I think this is a good idea...

[wooder]

Can we get rid of the following people. They have made their point, no use to keep reiterating it, they clearly come here only to bitch and moan

tylerderden
wooder
UnicornFarts

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

i don't get why i should be a fuder. i postet stuff that I thought is right and as it seems it is now cleared up. not everyone that posts stuff that questions stuff is a fuder.

i also doubt that tylerderden is fuder as he has an activity of 308.

[demgains]

I know this has been discussed already, but I wish XC came along when i was a more experienced investor. I got caught bagholding and I am at a loss but Ive been lucky to get in on some good pumps and make up for the loss. I still have high hopes for XC and plan to hold onto it now. I was stupid and put 90% of my investment into XC and have lost more than 60% ATM, but my 10% that I have placed into day trading has almost made up for my loss here.

I have accepted the fact that XC is a long term investment, the price now does not reflect its true value and will not for several months it seems. Considering REV 3 will be our biggest milestone yet, I am excited to see the outcome. I think people that are buying XC now are smart because they know they will be able to make some good profit during the REV 3 release.

Generally I don't comment on the price as I have always felt that the project, technology, and commitment by the team would be reflected in the market in the long run


But I am just as "disappointed" with the current price as everybody else is.  However that has zero impact on whats coming in the days, and months ahead.  The goal has always been to embrace the B2B and the B2C markets, and Mobile w/ Point of Sales as a primary driving factor.


I am a firm believer in the power of decentralized blockchain based technology and I am committed in taking XC to the next level.  Clearly monetizing the nodes with blockchain 2.0 technology is the future and bridging existing markets with this technology is the key to success.

Dan

thanks for the response Dan, the XC team is the reason why I am still confident for the future. Also, I dont think its in your heart to walk away from XC, and as long as development continues, it will eventually hit mass adoption.

[Bl4ckw00d]

Some of the overly entitled demands being made are just ridiculous.  I took a hit as well and I still have nothing but confidence.  In fact, thanks for making it easier for me to get more XC Inc ITO shares.

So tired of the otherwise invested people coming in here and just being complete wads about every small little detail.  I have read every page and I still see no reason why XC deserves all of this.

Every crypto has had issues due to low volume (which keeps getting smaller thanks to exchange hacks) and the pervasive crypto mentality that "if you don't deliver an artificial intelligence that will make you sandwiches while you're going to the moo0n then you're a scam".

I'm tired of the people who cry at everything in this thread...my goodness.  

speaking of the XC Inc. ITO, it will be based on the amount of XC you hold correct?

Yup.  And thanks to this recent shit storm.  I just got me a whole wack more shares at discount prices.  Anyone who is here know's the tech speaks for itself.  Let all the people talk shit, this project is a long time coming and dan and team are still here.  Hope not too many of you panic sold in the recent plummet.

[atcsecure]

Some of the overly entitled demands being made are just ridiculous.  I took a hit as well and I still have nothing but confidence.  In fact, thanks for making it easier for me to get more XC Inc ITO shares.

So tired of the otherwise invested people coming in here and just being complete wads about every small little detail.  I have read every page and I still see no reason why XC deserves all of this.

Every crypto has had issues due to low volume (which keeps getting smaller thanks to exchange hacks) and the pervasive crypto mentality that "if you don't deliver an artificial intelligence that will make you sandwiches while you're going to the moo0n then you're a scam".

I'm tired of the people who cry at everything in this thread...my goodness.  

speaking of the XC Inc. ITO, it will be based on the amount of XC you hold correct?

Yes you will be able to receive shares based on the amount of XC you hold, granted we need to define some parameters around this

[infinitechaos]

The amount of PR I could get done without Bitcointalk threads would be staggering.

Do we even need the BTC talk threads?  There are some other coins who do just fine within their own forums.  All we have here is a place for people to show up and directly bug you guys.  They create their own threads anyway so why put up with it?

Honest question - there might be good reasons and perhaps I am so frustrated with reading drivvle that I think this is a good idea...

+1000000000000

ARCHcoin recently locked their BTCtalk thread, started a new self-moderated thread, and have been strictly moderating it to the point where they really only allow actual announcements and legitimate responses to those announcements. Then the rest of the community discourse takes place in Slack or IRC.

I'd love to see XC try such a model.

I hate this forum. It's rife with so much trash.

Down with BTCtalk...

[UnicornFarts]

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

No I'm not.  I just have unpopular opinions in a circlejerk scam thread/project and am a little too vocal trying to keep new blood from being suckered in.

[IanDeMartino]

My weekly altcoin column has a section on this situation, including what I gathered from Dan during our skype chat that was new information at the time (not sure if he has updated you guys since, as this thread has grown by multiple pages since then)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112830/the-alt-cracks-1030-xc-spends-its-premine-nxtty-is-released-shaq-talks-quark-more

Hope that helps in some way.

[tylerderden]

Can we get rid of the following people. They have made their point, no use to keep reiterating it, they clearly come here only to bitch and moan

tylerderden
wooder
UnicornFarts

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

I don't get why i should be a fuder. i postet stuff that I thought is right and as it seems it is now cleared up. Not everyone that posts stuff that questions stuff is a fuder.

I also doubt that tylerderden is fuder as he has an activity of 308.

im not a fudder man, thats just peoples reaction on this forum when you show up and ask questions that people dont want asked. People are very confused on this forum between FUD and legit questions and concerns. It is hard to tell when someone is being honest or spreading nonsense for their own gain.The sooner people understand that for every person who asks there are 20 that didnt but have the same concerns the sooner we can move crypto forward. The rest of the world doesnt know what fud or premine is, but they are the ones that will bring new money so people need to understand that every thing they do as a dev will eventually be asked about by many. and even worse frighten off potential investors if everything isnt above boards. Thats why i say that blocknet needs to be handled better on the transparency front from the beginning.