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[Artoodeetoo]

Well FYI its made the telegraph...

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112830/the-alt-cracks-1030-xc-spends-its-premine-nxtty-is-released-shaq-talks-quark-more

[demgains]

Can we get rid of the following people. They have made their point, no use to keep reiterating it, they clearly come here only to bitch and moan

tylerderden
wooder
UnicornFarts

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

I don't get why i should be a fuder. i postet stuff that I thought is right and as it seems it is now cleared up. Not everyone that posts stuff that questions stuff is a fuder.

I also doubt that tylerderden is fuder as he has an activity of 308.

im not a fudder man, thats just peoples reaction on this forum when you show up and ask questions that people dont want asked. People are very confused on this forum between FUD and legit questions and concerns. It is hard to tell when someone is being honest or spreading nonsense for their own gain.The sooner people understand that for every person who asks there are 20 that didnt but have the same concerns the sooner we can move crypto forward. The rest of the world doesnt know what fud or premine is, but they are the ones that will bring new money so people need to understand that every thing they do as a dev will eventually be asked about by many. and even worse frighten off potential investors if everything isnt above boards. Thats why i say that blocknet needs to be handled better on the transparency front from the beginning.

I do agree, and it was a mistake XC made because they did not disclose the information about the premine being dispersed. However, it was always noted that the premine would be used for XC's development, and people are a little shocked because it actually happened just recently. It would have been smart by the team to actually make the community aware of their intentions, but that is in the past now. The team realizes now how important transparency is with ever move they do, and they are still learning. I'd rather they screw up here instead of before the release of an epic milestone like REV 3 where the effects would be 10x worse.

[ib88]

Well FYI its made the telegraph...

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112830/the-alt-cracks-1030-xc-spends-its-premine-nxtty-is-released-shaq-talks-quark-more

That clears up a lot of the FUD imo

[synechist]

The primary reason your (tylerderden and unicornfarts) posts were deleted earlier is the way your opinions were presented.

It's one thing to present an opinion.

It's another to bash people over the head with it. A community must be addressed with civility and respect if you hope to be heard. Unless you speak to people with their perspective in mind - and thus with empathy - your posts will get deleted.


- Emotively loaded terms,
- Unsubstantiated claims that aim to discredit a project,
- and posts that abuse or attack people,

are various ways in which a primary lack of empathy is played out.

Please take this to heart for the future. You're very welcome to be members of this community, but not on just any terms.

[spookycoins]

It sucks that a large portion of the time being spent by the XC team is having to deal with FUD on this thread.
This is the most attention those childish FUD guys get all day. They love it.
This is all they have. They have the time to waste. They have nothing else going on.
Get rid of those fools.

[MemoryShock]

The primary reason your (tylerderden and unicornfarts) posts were deleted earlier is the way your opinions were presented.

It's one thing to present an opinion.

It's another to bash people over the head with it. A community must be addressed with civility and respect if you hope to be heard. Unless you speak to people with their perspective in mind - and thus with empathy - your posts will get deleted.


- Emotively loaded terms,
- Unsubstantiated claims that aim to discredit a project,
- and posts that abuse or attack people,

are various ways in which a primary lack of empathy is played out.

Please take this to heart for the future. You're very welcome to be members of this community, but not on just any terms.

I think that while it is a good reminder it is likely falling on deaf eyes.  I moderated a forum for five years with 2 million uniques a month and our main focus was encouraging civil discussion.  I worked really well over there because these points are easily communicable because a lot of the time they just didn't know how to discuss heated arguments with people and would take things personal.

This forum is so much different...primarily because of the financial nature of the topic.  If you manage to win one over with logic and I'll buy you lunch...

You do pretty well at holding yourself against the tides...I try and keep updated on this thread and I am unsure how you keep your composure much of the time.

[cryptohunter]

ok just catching up...

atcsecure - are you holding many XC right now? If not then what will motivate you to continue the development of XC?

Blocknet? how many shares in blocknet do you hold personally?

i see xc diving lately.

[policymaker]

I learned one thing from having patience with a coin which is no SCAM.

When everybody was selling BlackCoin and everybody was fuding their thread I was buying like crazy for ~700 - ~900 sat each coin.
As soon as the coin proved to be developed and taken care of by legit and skilled people I knew that I was going to make lots of money from that investment.

My 8 BTC investment turned into ~370 BTC when I sold my BlackCoins for ~45k - 65k sat

I have the same feelings with XC right now and I'm very happy with my stash

BlockNet is going to push this baby near NXT with no problem.

You don't deserve to call yourselves investors, panicking like little babies when mommy is not around.
You all start crying right and left when you "loose" money when the price goes down. It's your own impatience and fear that makes you loose. You gonna loose money only if you DUMP.

Yes, there is some risk of losing all, so what? Invest only what you afford to lose.

Stop calling yourselves investors, bunch of scaredy cats

This is my last post on this thread. I had enough

Cheers

Could we plz just look at the bigger picture here- I havent deposited euro yet, can we slow down on the support just a couple more days here? I need more coins, thank you.

[mr_random]

The primary reason your (tylerderden and unicornfarts) posts were deleted earlier is the way your opinions were presented.

It's one thing to present an opinion.

It's another to bash people over the head with it. A community must be addressed with civility and respect if you hope to be heard. Unless you speak to people with their perspective in mind - and thus with empathy - your posts will get deleted.


- Emotively loaded terms,
- Unsubstantiated claims that aim to discredit a project,
- and posts that abuse or attack people,

are various ways in which a primary lack of empathy is played out.

Please take this to heart for the future. You're very welcome to be members of this community, but not on just any terms.

Have you seen unicornfarts new topic - XC Dev dumps entire dev fund on loyal supporters before moving on to blocknet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840310.0)

He clearly wants to spread fear and uncertainty.

[cryptohunter]

ok just catching up...

atcsecure - are you holding many XC right now? If not then what will motivate you to continue the development of XC?

Blocknet? how many shares in blocknet do you hold personally?

i see xc diving lately.

There is NO incentive, they don't care.


It should be clearly obvious, they took your XC, and dumped it, and made it worthless, so they could claim to focus on the superior project being BLOCK.


My thousands of Dollars in what once was a promising ALT-COIN is looking more and more like a massive IRS write-off, thanks Dan Metcalf, your the bees' knees.


Oh if you can't tell, I am fucking pissed, I think you need to take 250 btc and buy back your fucking coin you shit on a community.

However, the XC used to purchase block is now with dan right so he has a ton of xc again?

[UnicornFarts]

However, the XC used to purchase block is now with dan right so he has a ton of xc again?

Buying your own product with the community premine?  This is so beyond unethical ..  you are giving yourself block net with the XC premine that is going back in your pocket.

Good god

[IMJim]

Boy, never thought I would see XC drop to such lows!!  I am PISSED I do not have any money to suck a bunch more up at these ridiculous prices:-(

[policymaker]

Boy, never thought I would see XC drop to such lows!!  I am PISSED I do not have any money to suck a bunch more up at these ridiculous prices:-(

that makes  A LOT OF US jim.

[demgains]

I'm surprised that people come in here, some even XC investors, and are actually believing the FUD that has been posted instead of trusting one of the most transparent teams in cryptos. It's sad..... before you assume anything, take a look at the entire picture and ask yourself "should i trust a newbie profile that was specifically designed to troll and FUD competitor coins, or "should I listen to a team that has been honest their entire time during the development of their project"

[mav137]

Can we get rid of the following people. They have made their point, no use to keep reiterating it, they clearly come here only to bitch and moan

tylerderden
wooder
UnicornFarts

I strongly agree. Unicorn and tyler in particular are just obvious trolls.

I don't get why i should be a fuder. i postet stuff that I thought is right and as it seems it is now cleared up. Not everyone that posts stuff that questions stuff is a fuder.

I also doubt that tylerderden is fuder as he has an activity of 308.

im not a fudder man, thats just peoples reaction on this forum when you show up and ask questions that people dont want asked. People are very confused on this forum between FUD and legit questions and concerns. It is hard to tell when someone is being honest or spreading nonsense for their own gain.The sooner people understand that for every person who asks there are 20 that didnt but have the same concerns the sooner we can move crypto forward. The rest of the world doesnt know what fud or premine is, but they are the ones that will bring new money so people need to understand that every thing they do as a dev will eventually be asked about by many. and even worse frighten off potential investors if everything isnt above boards. Thats why i say that blocknet needs to be handled better on the transparency front from the beginning.

Im gonna take exactly one post to reply to you on this one and then i'll drop the matter.

While I do agree that critical questions should be raised for sake of discussion, doing it the way you and the others mentioned before did it is disrespectful at least. You're not helping anyone here when you keep posting the same tyrannical arguments.
Sure you have a point, but at least try to present it with respect and keep it reasonable.

If you want to attract new money, then stop frightening of potential investors with your "dumping / tanking / it's over bullshit. It's extremely discomforting reading your posts over and over again. I was pushing my refresh button and noticed several of your posts with the same BS being removed. The people reading up now only seen half of the actual FUD that was going on.

You present yourself all nice and noble now, all in regard to protect the newcomers, but I've seen your colors

[IMJim]

Dude.......STFU man, you misunderstood........likely intentionally to spread some more of your pathetic fud!!!  He didn't buy any blocks with the fucking premine idiot, it was "suggested" in the post that you responded to that he "may" have more XC now from OTHER people that spent XC to purchase blocks.

[demgains]

However, the XC used to purchase block is now with dan right so he has a ton of xc again?

you've been banned, why are you still here

is there no way to thread ban members that prevent them from posting? jesus this guy wont shut up

[policymaker]

However, the XC used to purchase block is now with dan right so he has a ton of xc again?

Buying your own product with the community premine?  This is so beyond unethical ..  you are giving yourself block net with the XC that is going back in your pocket.

Good god

Dude.......STFU man, you misunderstood........likely intentionally to spread some more of your pathetic fud!!!  He didn't buy any blocks with the fucking premine idiot, it was "suggested" in the post that you responded to that he "may" have more XC now from OTHER people that spent XC to purchase blocks.

 read the cointelegragh artitcle

the ct article was a nice objective piece, just critical, nothing condemning.

This is the sum of the arcticle, just to prove its objectivity:
"Some in the community are expressing feelings of betrayal, saying that spending from the premine account was not done in a transparent way as the development team originally claimed it would. However, I would point out that the premine account has been sending out coins for a few months now. At any time, any user could have checked on that and then asked the developers what the money is being spent on."

Now GTFO, just throwing words around to spread commotion

[policymaker]

However, the XC used to purchase block is now with dan right so he has a ton of xc again?

Buying your own product with the community premine?  This is so beyond unethical ..  you are giving yourself block net with the XC that is going back in your pocket.

Good god

Dude.......STFU man, you misunderstood........likely intentionally to spread some more of your pathetic fud!!!  He didn't buy any blocks with the fucking premine idiot, it was "suggested" in the post that you responded to that he "may" have more XC now from OTHER people that spent XC to purchase blocks.

  read the cointelegragh artitcle

the ct article was a nice objective piece, just critical, nothing condemning.

It said dan used the premine to pay himself back to buy blocknet shares.  So yes.  XC premine purchased shares for dan and premine xc and blocknet shares went back into his pocket from the premine fund.

"He also shared with me that some of the premine was used to pay him to pay back some of the money he personally invested into XC's mobile app development. Some of that XC paid to him was then sold to buy his own stake in BlockNet, but he stressed that the XC premine was not directly used to buy BlockNet's ITO and has been used exclusively for development of XC and its related projects (including bounties, multi-pools, an ATM and the mobile app)."

GTFO

[mr_random]

This FUD makes zero sense when XC tech keeps being improved week by week.

Quite frankly I don't care if Dan spent the pre-mine on hookers and blow in vegas.

What I do care about is:

- Decentralised trustless mixing
- XChat
- Group XChat
- XC App

All of which are being developed and can be tested. Not to mention Synechist's many efforts, and the development that lies ahead: rev 3, stealth addresses, XC Inc shares etc.

So long as the tech is being developed, that is the main thing. And for the record Dan has said he will be providing more detailed information on what the premine was spent on.