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September 03, 2015, 04:05:40 PM |
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bankchain technology... bitcoin and NEM are necessary to nobody. bankers want to have and control bankchain.
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September 03, 2015, 05:19:46 PM |
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When will Mosaics get released? Any expected time frame?
once we're done with testing in testnet, it looks good, as jabo was able to find one pretty serious bug. bit more open testnet access should be avail #soon.
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September 03, 2015, 05:21:40 PM |
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Thanks for sharing. Good news but we need to consider that most banks are see blockchain and cryptocurrency as two seperate things. They are mainly interested in blockchain technology, not at cryptocoins.
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September 03, 2015, 05:23:43 PM |
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Even the trolls have stopped caring about NEM hehe. Not good.
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September 03, 2015, 05:43:30 PM |
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...or the trolls got finally convinced about the superiority of NEM technology ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Even the trolls have stopped caring about NEM hehe. Not good.
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September 03, 2015, 06:34:33 PM |
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...or the trolls got finally convinced about the superiority of NEM technology ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Even the trolls have stopped caring about NEM hehe. Not good.
...or the trolls left there where money pays for trolling. look in trollbox on Polo? obviously for eth there is very huge money what even trollbox on Polo were bought and captivated paid trolls. pr eth company for certain spends millions dollars that around all spoke only about eth. +1 for eth - 1 for xem we need pr!
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September 03, 2015, 06:39:28 PM |
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The passive aggression from hardcore NEM supporters, who never see wrong being done by the developers or marketers, is ultimately what keeps people away. Nobody likes narcissism.
The thread right now is Jabo38 and a few others on a broken cassette player (talking to themselves). NEM thread had way better activity in early 2015 and especially 2014.
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September 03, 2015, 06:42:31 PM Last edit: September 03, 2015, 07:13:19 PM by JBC |
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http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/Fact is NEM is only growing by some 10 addresses a week and addresses are not people and this upswing was probably due to the faucet. No time to deal with exact numbers but the approximation is a doubling of addresses will take up to 3.5 years at the current rate. You paid Xtester 20 million XEM You paid kodtycoon 10 million XEM You paid a lot of "marketers" a lot of XEM. Where are the results? Where is the adoption? Where is the marketing? The advertising? Many of the people who were paid the most for marketing did the least of what ever marketing there was. Translations are essential marketing, some people spent hour(s) on them and yet many translators were paid less than 1 stake and some weren't even paid at all. Yet we had someone like Xtester who was paid 20 million XEM and many can testify he was a terrible moderator (he let CfA spam all day and was inactive for weeks at a time) and no forum moderator in the world, even a competent one, even deserves more than a single stake.. How you guys handled this reward for marketing, which was cronyism, implies that NEM is being ran by dangerous management. A) How can an investor knowingly invest into NEM if they knew these facts? If you give the developers money, will they just give it away to friends and relatives? Dangerous I'ld say. B) Because of cronyism - nobody new to NEM has incentive to contribute. Why bust your butt so some figurehead marketer, who does nothing, gets 10x more than you? New economy is oddly starting to look like old economy of cronyism and corruption..
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September 03, 2015, 07:14:11 PM |
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there is no interest from investors. investor needs the drive, pr is necessary, and it is necessary that all trolls told what fine xem. also spoke everywhere as speak now about eth.
here everything rests against financing. in the real world everything is solved by money. when Makoto told that it found financing, i thought oh yes it well. but what we see in practice? 0 btc of day volume against day volume 3000 btc on eth?
generally guys i will tell you so- we need financing which would be comprehensive, differently there will be a capitalization at very low level and the price in 1 sat. to that of course at heart i will be very glad to buy a large number of coins at the price in 1 sat, but thus such xem with such day volume 0 btc simply couldn't be sold to me then as the coin isn't necessary to anybody. in total only also speak devil take it about eth! yes i will start saying only about it soon!
money. money. money. money makes the mare go. understand it guys. without attraction of large capitals from such companies as goole, apple, samsung, and other will leave nothing! support by huge money is necessary if you want that xem came up and it started noticing as now notice only eth.
this world is so arranged. it is possible to offer it even shit. here everything depends on that as promote and what huge capitals join this market and these figures are displayed on day volume.
we will take for example iphone and it is comparable with inexpensive chinese models. we can see this difference as some chinese models of phones it is many times better than iphone but at price is cheaper and stocks of these chinese companies aren't appreciated in the world. simply those guys who has money, they can even pump up shit money. thus shit will live and good will die.
look for a way to money. to corporations. and then something will turn out. and so, without support big money of xem will die in a year. if doesn't change and money won't come, in 2017 i predict full death xem where it will be thrown out from all exchanges with the price in 1 sat.
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September 03, 2015, 07:24:33 PM |
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You'ld be pretty stupid to be still owning NEM in 2017 and nothing from Makoto and Rockethead has yet to come out. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There is no user adoption - 10 addresses a week isn't good enough. I would be satisfied if it was able to hit 100 a month. It should even be a goal or maybe even a contest to see if NEM could get 100 new addresses after a month. Once you can hit 100 then you can raise the goalpost. Makoto and Rockethead have never really published any informatics about their stuff in awhile. The other day I was told AltNemo has a beautiful website and a lot of juicy info but that website was built back in 2014. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 03, 2015, 07:59:38 PM |
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You'ld be pretty stupid to be still owning NEM in 2017 and nothing from Makoto and Rockethead has yet to come out. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There is no user adoption - 10 addresses a week isn't good enough. I would be satisfied if it was able to hit 100 a month. It should even be a goal or maybe even a contest to see if NEM could get 100 new addresses after a month. Once you can hit 100 then you can raise the goalpost. Makoto and Rockethead have never really published any informatics about their stuff in awhile. The other day I was told AltNemo has a beautiful website and a lot of juicy info but that website was built back in 2014. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yeah you didn't even mention volume... well guess there is nothing to mention. haha
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September 03, 2015, 08:25:29 PM |
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You'ld be pretty stupid to be still owning NEM in 2017 and nothing from Makoto and Rockethead has yet to come out. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There is no user adoption - 10 addresses a week isn't good enough. I would be satisfied if it was able to hit 100 a month. It should even be a goal or maybe even a contest to see if NEM could get 100 new addresses after a month. Once you can hit 100 then you can raise the goalpost. Makoto and Rockethead have never really published any informatics about their stuff in awhile. The other day I was told AltNemo has a beautiful website and a lot of juicy info but that website was built back in 2014. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yeah you didn't even mention volume... well guess there is nothing to mention. haha Volume doesn't matter to me so why would I mention it? As long as there are big enough buy and sell walls then it is inconsequential. There's daytraders but, if you use tracking services, you'ld find that many of them are either broke college kids or people in developing countries doing dust transactions looking for pennies and dollar profit. Spent more on lunch today than those people are trying to make. Most of the volume we see in crypto is from PoW or inflationary PoS. PoW induces artificial velocity from miners dumping free coins to pay for their overhead costs and hardware replacement. Inflationary PoS = convert free coins into free money, you'ld be stupid not to. So of course those coins will always have higher volume because of instant dumpers. Even your baby NXT, unless you hate that too now, always had low volume compared to the other top 10 coins. NXT isn't PoW and has a fixed supply and thus there aren't many freebies - there's a little from transactions but not much.
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September 03, 2015, 08:36:02 PM |
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When will Mosaics get released? Any expected time frame?
once we're done with testing in testnet, it looks good, as jabo was able to find one pretty serious bug. bit more open testnet access should be avail #soon. funny how the trolls come out in force as soon as a dev says mosaics is nearly ready for wider testing and ultimately soon after live net release.. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) hopefully node rewards will follow suit soon after.. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Previous NEM tech updates did not increase the user adoption or improve the capitalization, so why would Mosaics be different? NODE rewards will increase NEM volume but, unless new blood comes into NEM because of it, capitalization will go down from dumping freebies. Can NODE rewards bring in the mining whores and convince them to net-buy into NEM? Guess we'll find out.
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September 03, 2015, 08:49:21 PM |
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Looking at these sell walls - I think I can kill NEM for a low cost of 20 BTC. Should I do it? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Operation NEVER EVER MORE NEM! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2Fcyt40o72j%2Fshitcoin.jpg&t=665&c=wEnvUBab7_A0NQ)
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Important Forum AnnouncementHi Everyone, I have some news about the forum. Patmast3r worked really hard to get us migrated, writing a script from scratch. The users and posts from the old forum have been migrated over to forum.nem.io, and some of you might have already noticed emails coming in for the new forum. The new forum will be much easier to maintain and update and uses a conversation styled theme. It takes a little bit getting use to but I think most people will find it much better. This style of theme is called Discourse and is gaining in popularity among forums. There are now social logins, reply to a post via email, drag and drop attachments, better search, as well as many other improvements. Here are somethings you need to know. Your old password won't work. You should have been sent an email in the last 24 hours with a link to activate your account at the new forum. Please follow that link, and gaining access to your account please navigate to your Profile -> Preferences -> Send Password Reset Email. You will be sent another email that will allow you to reset your password. After that you will have full control of your account again and can customize your profile page, or start to post. Also, PMs from the old forum and attachments made to posts didn't get merged, so if there is any data that is important to you in those categories, it must be manually backed up.
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September 03, 2015, 10:55:34 PM |
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It looks really good, well done ! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 03, 2015, 11:55:59 PM |
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Thanks!
Your sites look really good too.
NEM is starting to get a better style.
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We are going through tough time, however we still do continue supporting NEM and Makoto. It doesn't matter how NEM is currently doing in the market in comparison to other coins. It should be clear for everyone at this moment that NEM didn't start yet. Today we just have the base foundation where tons of features will be added each now and then. The fact that Makoto is now working full time for NEM should make us more confident than ever about the progress of releasing critical NEM features such as mosaics.
The majority of alt coins that have high daily trading volume are mainly offering mixing functionalities that would enable dark markets and dark money. We are happy to see NEM moving slowly "but steady" away from such dark functionalities. Other alt coins that are doing pretty well today are not even alt coins but platforms that takes block chain technology to the next step in the same manner NEM is but in different direction. These are mainly Ethereum and MaidSafe. You can't compare Ethereum to Maidsafe nor to NEM. These are all block chaining innovations in totally different direction and with totally different approach.
NEM success will come to the ease of use of the to be released future features in addition to the mobile apps. I personally do believe that NEM more than any other block chaining technology can easily enable average users with very limited if not no knowledge at all about cryptos.
Makoto if you are reading this please know that we trust in your abilities to make this happen in the very near future.
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September 04, 2015, 07:45:04 AM |
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can refuse market value? to ask exchanges to clean xem and to look for other approach of pricing through exchange offices who exchange cryptocurrencies. xem is necessary to nobody. same it is obvious. and when the coin is necessary to nobody that price will fall at exchanges to lowest price. if to refuse exchanges that we will get rid of speculators who press price down. exchange offices who changes xem for money only have to be but not exchanges. you know why? so we will see real demand but not speculative. if of course we see as people having tons coins don't know where and on what to spend them. any service it wasn't connected. even pathetic cellular communication can't be paid by means of xem anywhere. nothing can be paid by means of xem.
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