ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[vabchgent]

I have 4 x S3 antminers . I had the 10/24 firmware on them seems like MY GHS was dropping from 450 to 340+ but never going back up to 450 or even close any ideas. When I reboot the GHS jumps back up for about 10-12HRs then back down again. All set at s3+ default 225. I changed the voltage to 0770. I just installed Doges firmware on one of them to try it. Any one has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I know I am quoting myself but it looks like 0720 is normal voltage for 10/24 firmware running 225 Freq and 0725 for Dogies 12/19 Firmware at 225 Freq looks right. I will have to let them run for 24hrs and see what happens. Might have to go with the 12/19 firmware if everything keeps running okay because it looks like the 12/19 is running better then the 10/24 . Ill keep everyone posted. Thanks  

My question would be, if the wattage is not changing at the wall, is it doing anything at all???

edit: referencing the voltage.. changing the freq definitely changes the watts at the wall

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

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[nitrox1]

I have 4 x S3 antminers . I had the 10/24 firmware on them seems like MY GHS was dropping from 450 to 340+ but never going back up to 450 or even close any ideas. When I reboot the GHS jumps back up for about 10-12HRs then back down again. All set at s3+ default 225. I changed the voltage to 0770. I just installed Doges firmware on one of them to try it. Any one has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I know I am quoting myself but it looks like 0720 is normal voltage for 10/24 firmware running 225 Freq and 0725 for Dogies 12/19 Firmware at 225 Freq looks right. I will have to let them run for 24hrs and see what happens. Might have to go with the 12/19 firmware if everything keeps running okay because it looks like the 12/19 is running better then the 10/24 . Ill keep everyone posted. Thanks  

My question would be, if the wattage is not changing at the wall, is it doing anything at all???

edit: referencing the voltage.. changing the freq definitely changes the watts at the wall

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

Seems low to me, but I'm going to try it, myself

[vabchgent]

I have 4 x S3 antminers . I had the 10/24 firmware on them seems like MY GHS was dropping from 450 to 340+ but never going back up to 450 or even close any ideas. When I reboot the GHS jumps back up for about 10-12HRs then back down again. All set at s3+ default 225. I changed the voltage to 0770. I just installed Doges firmware on one of them to try it. Any one has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I know I am quoting myself but it looks like 0720 is normal voltage for 10/24 firmware running 225 Freq and 0725 for Dogies 12/19 Firmware at 225 Freq looks right. I will have to let them run for 24hrs and see what happens. Might have to go with the 12/19 firmware if everything keeps running okay because it looks like the 12/19 is running better then the 10/24 . Ill keep everyone posted. Thanks  

My question would be, if the wattage is not changing at the wall, is it doing anything at all???

edit: referencing the voltage.. changing the freq definitely changes the watts at the wall

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

Seems low to me, but I'm going to try it, myself

Seems low to me too from what I have been reading but right now my GHS is consistent above 432GHS.

[pekatete]

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

Seems low to me, but I'm going to try it, myself

Seems low to me too from what I have been reading but right now my GHS is consistent above 432GHS.

I derived the table below from the BM1382 datasheet, the red numbers are the non shipping OC's (and therefore estimates for the settings and speed), however the rest are straight from the datasheet.

So the datasheet recomended voltage setting for freq 225 is 0.72v, i.e 0720

[vabchgent]

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

Seems low to me, but I'm going to try it, myself

Seems low to me too from what I have been reading but right now my GHS is consistent above 432GHS.

I derived the table below from the BM1382 datasheet, the red numbers are the non shipping OC's (and therefore estimates for the settings and speed), however the rest are straight from the datasheet.

So the datasheet recomended voltage setting for freq 225 is 0.72v, i.e 0720

pakatete
Can you do combinations like
07650 = 0.765
07350 =  0.735
Would these examples be a correct way to use voltage. Just making sure 

I would like to try to get 231 Freq working any ideas on where to start voltage wise between 0.7xx and 0.7xx

Thanks

[jjiimm_64]

I just had to edit my post looks like 0720 is right for 225 freq but have to monitor for 24hrs make sure theres no unexplained drops

Seems low to me, but I'm going to try it, myself

Seems low to me too from what I have been reading but right now my GHS is consistent above 432GHS.

I derived the table below from the BM1382 datasheet, the red numbers are the non shipping OC's (and therefore estimates for the settings and speed), however the rest are straight from the datasheet.

So the datasheet recomended voltage setting for freq 225 is 0.72v, i.e 0720

pakatete
Can you do combinations like
07650 = 0.765
07350 =  0.735
Would these examples be a correct way to use voltage. Just making sure 

I would like to try to get 231 Freq working any ideas on where to start voltage wise between 0.7xx and 0.7xx

Thanks

I am running the 231 on ALL 106 s3's.   some i did 072, some I did 068.  it did NOT make a bit of diff.  all the ants are running OK.  except some are dropping blades.

[pekatete]

pakatete
Can you do combinations like
07650 = 0.765
07350 =  0.735
Would these examples be a correct way to use voltage. Just making sure  

I would like to try to get 231 Freq working any ideas on where to start voltage wise between 0.7xx and 0.7xx

Thanks

That question is best addressed to bitmain tech, also I am neither an electrical nor software engineer; saying that, there is no reason not to try that particular setting (or a combination of the lot), seeing I have tried all the freqs listed in that table without letting out any blue smoke from any of the S3 variants I've tried them on.
As always, at your own risk!

[Tomten]

There are many many hardware versions of the S3, not all of them support variable voltage AFAIK.

@dogie and @BITMAIN can you please tell us witch versions of S3 support voltage setting? Is it depending on hardware, PIC-firmware or software?

I have two S3-B2 where hash rate always drops after some time. Both are re pasted. That helped one a bit, it stay stable for 12-24h before dropping.
I have tested all firmwares, with similar result. The 1126 firmware gave me some hope, with 0760 voltage both run somewhat stable for 24h.
But that was temporarily, they did both drop after that. And a restart, witch always have got them up to speed, did not help much. They fast dropped
down to about 350Gh/s (30-60min). Playing with voltage seemed to help a bit, but always dropping after 1h.
I tested 1219 firmware, but that was worse. Barley got over 400Gh/s.
Now I am on 1013 firmware, with my updated cgminer-monitor script that restarts when hash rate is low. That is working good.

So please inform us about different hardware, PIC-firmware and cgminer versions. I notice changes to the files in the different firmwares.

regards Tomten

[dogie]

There are many many hardware versions of the S3, not all of them support variable voltage AFAIK.

@dogie and @BITMAIN can you please tell us witch versions of S3 support voltage setting? Is it depending on hardware, PIC-firmware or software?

So please inform us about different hardware, PIC-firmware and cgminer versions. I notice changes to the files in the different firmwares.

regards Tomten

Its not firmware or cgminer based, I believe its DC/DC based. There are a few variants of DC/DC. There's no real way to track them seeing as they were/are sold under S3 or S3+, and may or may not span batches.

[vabchgent]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

[pekatete]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

Try the 10/13 firmware. It has that problem with the Save & Apply, but that's about all its ills (as far as I remember it's reset button works and I have been running it OK till now!)

[bitsolutions]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

[pekatete]

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

I am not disputing its effectivenes, but what does that accomplish? Care to explain?

[vabchgent]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

What does this do exactly.Looks like it does something to the network configuration. Thanks

[vabchgent]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

What does this do exactly.Looks like it does something to the network configuration. Thanks

And I cant get into my miner now what was that hopefully that just reset my network on the miner. Thanks

That's what it does theres a couple of other commands that go with it. Ill Have to log back in when I get home. Considering I just reset the network config

[bitsolutions]

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

I am not disputing its effectivenes, but what does that accomplish? Care to explain?

Its essentially a factory reset except it preserves the network and pool settings, good to make sure you don't have any weird remnants from older firmwares.

[ATCkit]

Whats the consensus on the best firmware to use on these without the GHS dropping. I have 10/24 dropping GHS with 0720 set as the Voltage and S3 Standard frequency.I also have one running on the 12/19 beta and its worse.The funny thing is I own 4 x S3+ that should be able to run at 225 Freq.I dont care about a reset button at this point. Just need a known good firmware. Thanks

Try the 10/13 firmware. It has that problem with the Save & Apply, but that's about all its ills (as far as I remember it's reset button works and I have been running it OK till now!)

I have tried all of them.  The 10/13 firmware is the best ....despite the error on the miner configuration page that looks the pic at this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg9315717#msg9315717

This error does not seem to affect my miners. Better yet, it did not brick any of my controllers like the Oct 24th firmware did. However, I can't access the advanced tab on the miner configuration page.

My S3s average 440+ GHS and S3s average 450+ GHS. So, the Oct 13th firmware is a slight improvement of about 5-10 GHS over the August firmware.

I don't have those wild spikes and drops that I got with the Oct 24 and Nov firmware. Dogie's beta version was about the same as the late August firmware. So it's stable.

EDIT:
If you need/want to fix the error on the miner configuration page when you are using the Oct 13th firmware, a solution is posted here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671189.msg9317632#msg9317632

I won't be doing this as i like my miner's the way they are running now and have no need to change the miner config.

[vabchgent]

Try running this command via SSH with the beta firmware.

Code:

cp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer /tmp/cgminer.tmp && cp /overlay/etc/config/network /tmp/network.tmp && rm -r /overlay/* && mkdir /overlay/etc && mkdir /overlay/etc/config && cp /tmp/cgminer.tmp /overlay/etc/config/cgminer && cp /tmp/network.tmp /overlay/etc/config/network && reboot

I am not disputing its effectivenes, but what does that accomplish? Care to explain?

Its essentially a factory reset except it preserves the network and pool settings, good to make sure you don't have any weird remnants from older firmwares.

You need to be careful using this command it reset my miner and I had to use the rest button to get the miner back up and running. Thanks

[dog1965]

  Merry Christmas everybody sorry about the spelling mistake in the Picture. Enjoy your holiday.

[vabchgent]

  Merry Christmas everybody sorry about the spelling mistake in the Picture. Enjoy your holiday.

And a same to you thanks I needed that. Looks like you ran out of paper.