#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

[Gogo ppp]

You have Jetwin rated B.

Jetwin is voiding winning bets claiming arbitrage, steam plays, and any other excuse, but does not claim that when bets lose.

sbrzol points out that Jetwin used to be scam book Getwin: "jetwin will disappear like getwin did  after many arbers and sharp bettors found they site (when 1 or 2 arbitrage betting services covers its lines)"

sbr has info on Getwin:  http://www.sportsbookreview.com/search/?q=getwin


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355484.580

sbrzol - post #588

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[ShetKid]

You have Jetwin rated B.

Jetwin is voiding winning bets claiming arbitrage, steam plays, and any other excuse, but does not claim that when bets lose.

sbrzol points out that Jetwin used to be scam book Getwin: "jetwin will disappear like getwin did  after many arbers and sharp bettors found they site (when 1 or 2 arbitrage betting services covers its lines)"

sbr has info on Getwin:  http://www.sportsbookreview.com/search/?q=getwin


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355484.580

sbrzol - post #588

I doubt that. They won't run because they are not holding any of your investments or money. If they claimed that your placed an arbitrage on a bet, then you can request for a cashout if arbitraging is not allowed on their site. You can also start a scam accusation and ask them to provide proof that you made an arbitrage bet.

I haven't had such experience, but would like to know if there is a risk of something like that happening in the future.

[Gogo ppp]

You have Jetwin rated B.

Jetwin is voiding winning bets claiming arbitrage, steam plays, and any other excuse, but does not claim that when bets lose.

sbrzol points out that Jetwin used to be scam book Getwin: "jetwin will disappear like getwin did  after many arbers and sharp bettors found they site (when 1 or 2 arbitrage betting services covers its lines)"

sbr has info on Getwin:  http://www.sportsbookreview.com/search/?q=getwin


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355484.580

sbrzol - post #588

I doubt that. They won't run because they are not holding any of your investments or money. If they claimed that your placed an arbitrage on a bet, then you can request for a cashout if arbitraging is not allowed on their site. You can also start a scam accusation and ask them to provide proof that you made an arbitrage bet.

I haven't had such experience, but would like to know if there is a risk of something like that happening in the future.

If you want to know, read the bitcointalk.org link I provided.

[pureelite]

Jetwin should be graded much higher,they are a really awesome sportsbook with awesome odds
and deposit and cashout and bonuses
i think they deserve one of the top grades!!

[ShetKid]

You have Jetwin rated B.

Jetwin is voiding winning bets claiming arbitrage, steam plays, and any other excuse, but does not claim that when bets lose.

sbrzol points out that Jetwin used to be scam book Getwin: "jetwin will disappear like getwin did  after many arbers and sharp bettors found they site (when 1 or 2 arbitrage betting services covers its lines)"

sbr has info on Getwin:  http://www.sportsbookreview.com/search/?q=getwin


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355484.580

sbrzol - post #588

I doubt that. They won't run because they are not holding any of your investments or money. If they claimed that your placed an arbitrage on a bet, then you can request for a cashout if arbitraging is not allowed on their site. You can also start a scam accusation and ask them to provide proof that you made an arbitrage bet.

I haven't had such experience, but would like to know if there is a risk of something like that happening in the future.

If you want to know, read the bitcointalk.org link I provided.

I did, but they also posted before that " You know what are you doing wrong. JETWIN is not intended for arbitrage bettors.
"  . What I want to know is that they say that to people who don't do arbitrage bets as well. Thats what I thought happened with you.

[BeatMo]

Jetwin is one of the best books. It is the only one that really offers instant withdrawals, great bonuses and decent limits. System works smoothly, huge range of bets. You will not often meet such service even with the largest non-BTC sportsbooks.

[Gleb Gamow]

Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.

Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating

Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.

I see, are you doing this alone? Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal. If you are doing this alone, you cant possibly keep track of all the negativity in the sportsbook isnt it?

I run all my opinions behind the scenes with others at peepsplace to see what they think after they take a test drive. The people that I run it by have extensive gambling backgrounds. Some have dealt with cash book complaints in the past. I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

Nitrogen is a huge operation for a bitcoin book. They are located in Costa Rica with a marketing department in Canada. Because their player base is so big, they are going to have complaints. If complaints were tracked by percentage of players at Nitrogen, it's very low compared to other books. Small books shouldn't have as many complaints because their player base is much smaller.

It's safe to say that Nitrogen knows what they are doing and take all complaints seriously. If anyone has a problem, submit a support ticket and they will take care of it. They are also very open and transparent with me. I'm on Skype with 3 different people at Nitrogen. If someone wants me to look into something, just give me your permission to see your account details and Nitrogen will tell me exactly what happened.

shulio - "Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal."


My last 4 withdrawals at Nitrogen took:

30 minutes
2.5 hours
a few minutes
5.0 hours

This is a problem.  

Peeps responses to Shulio's questions addresses none of this.

Have you made any recent withdrawals? I made one yesterday that took less than 2 minutes.

I stopped playing there after my 5.0 hour withdrawal experience.
And prior to that, it was the best btc sportsbook for me by far.

I posted in Nitro's thread during the experience.

I understand that many and perhaps most withdrawals are fast.
But I have no idea what amounts are being withdrawn, nor the time of day when this occurs.

My bad experience, as well as that of 2 other posters, was during the middle of the night USA time.

I may play there again soon, and keep the deposit small. But Nitro has less value for me if I don't have as many btc on deposit there as I will need.

The sites mentioned belong to Jeff Ownby and Sonny Vleisides of BFL.

[Gogo ppp]

Gleb Gamow - "The sites mentioned belong to Jeff Ownby and Sonny Vleisides of BFL."


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Which sites?

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think he means BetVIP and Bitcoinlivebets. Seriously.

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4/23/15

Magicmexican

Ye i stil cant withdraw part of my funds, i've been trying since april 17. I will give them another 24 hours and then i think it will be in my rights to give them negative feedback.

BTCBook 

Hey everyone,

We are working to get the site back up now.

We have been hit with a few DDOS attacks over the past week, including another one last night, and have had to switch servers a few times to help mitigate the attacks.

All funds are safe and all withdrawals will be processed as soon as possible.

Thanks for your understandng.

Magicmexican

Ok

But i cant even initiate my withdrawal at the moment, so its not even pending. When i fill in the btc address, amount to withdraw&password and click 'withdraw' - nothing happens, page just reloads.

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Majicmexican

At this point i am forced to leave the negative feedback.

Ddos or not, holding the funds for that long and stopping answering my emails is unacceptable.

[magicmexican]

This is the email last reply i got from btcbook.eu support (3 days ago):

We will have it fixed today sometime, but I do not have an exact ETA
yet from your devs.

Thanks

[joegamble]

BetCoin is screwing me over big time
Waiting over 2 days for my 1.84 btc withdrawal
im super-pissed right now ,am i ever gonna receive my money

[Rating Place]

BTCBook downgraded from "D" to "F". No players are being paid due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting to be paid since 4/17/05.   It's BTCBook's responsibility to figure out a way to pay players.

[Rating Place]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)


"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
BTCBook F (2014) ................no payouts are being made due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting since 4/17/05.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betkurus.com
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

[casinobitco]

Saw this one coming a mile away... same theme / template as 2 previous btc book scams.

Guys - every bad btc book puts the entire industry to shame and prevents the traditional player from crossing over to btc. I define bad books as those with extremely unfavorable odds (plenty on this list, even in "A" and "B" category), and those which don't pay out customers when they win.

BTCBook downgraded from "D" to "F". No players are being paid due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting to be paid since 4/17/05.   It's BTCBook's responsibility to figure out a way to pay players.

[casinobitco]

FYI - We have early lines up for the 2015 Kentucky Derby

https://www.casinobitco.in/bet-kentucky-derby

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New Book betinbtc.com

[Rating Place]

Nitrogen has live betting for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Anyone else with live betting for the fight?

[scat]

Nitrogen has live betting for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. Anyone else with live betting for the fight?

i have no idea for those match