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May 12, 2015, 09:24:27 AM |
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Peeps - " If a book sends money to the wrong person, there is no recourse for the book."
The player is responsible for sending the correct btc address to the book for the withdrawal.
The book is responsible for sending to the btc address that was provided by the customer. This should be automatic - manual review is unnecessary.
" All money is not kept in hot wallets."
The books have the responsibility to keep refilling the hot wallet in a timely manner as needed. This does not take hours. It should be a quick procedure to refill the hot wallet, and books should be able to anticipate and refill or partially refill in advance.
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Gogo ppp
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May 12, 2015, 09:26:08 AM |
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It's already been 27 minutes that I'm waiting to receive a couple btc from Nitro.
This is ridiculous, and poor cs.
The btc has been in the account all week, so it's not an issue of waiting for confirmations for a very recent deposit that I'm now withdrawing.
I haven't made a bet there in 4 days.
There's no acceptable reason for it to take this long.
Trying to increase their profits by having a skeleton crew on at night is not acceptable.
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May 12, 2015, 12:57:08 PM |
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Nitrogensports is the only Bitcoin book with E-Sports. Anonibet doesn't have them.
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May 12, 2015, 05:15:40 PM |
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Nitrogensports is the only Bitcoin book with E-Sports. Anonibet doesn't have them.
Thanks
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May 12, 2015, 06:28:25 PM |
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Peeps - " Does anyone have opinions on withdrawal times?"
Yes. Instant.
As you mentioned, several books (like Nitro) have regressed. Instant withdrawals were great for the customer, but now it can take 2.5 - 5 hours.
If they had specific problems with their instant withdrawals, then remedy the problems by improving their systems and software, rather than penalizing their customers with long wait times for withdrawals.
And honesty about withdrawal times would be refreshing. Don't state "It may take a few minutes once in awhile" if it's going to take hours fairly often.
The books should also allow one to opt out of Casino and Poker access, which are frequently used by hackers once they steal one's sportsbook funds, to move the funds out of the book, or gamble them away.
Gogo- You stated that books should pay us instantly. To avoid arguments with books on whether a withdrawal was instant or it took a few minutes, would you have an objection to setting a 15 minute rule? Books/exchanges that can't consistently meet a 15 minute withdrawal rule will have their rating decreased. There are going to be exceptions since some withdrawals will be red flagged for security purposes so a couple of withdrawals taking longer will be acceptable. If we do implement this rule, it won't go into affect for a month. Some books have stated that they will have instant withdrawals in place soon.
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Gogo ppp
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May 14, 2015, 09:15:34 AM |
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Peeps - " Does anyone have opinions on withdrawal times?"
Yes. Instant.
As you mentioned, several books (like Nitro) have regressed. Instant withdrawals were great for the customer, but now it can take 2.5 - 5 hours.
If they had specific problems with their instant withdrawals, then remedy the problems by improving their systems and software, rather than penalizing their customers with long wait times for withdrawals.
And honesty about withdrawal times would be refreshing. Don't state "It may take a few minutes once in awhile" if it's going to take hours fairly often.
The books should also allow one to opt out of Casino and Poker access, which are frequently used by hackers once they steal one's sportsbook funds, to move the funds out of the book, or gamble them away.
Gogo- You stated that books should pay us instantly. To avoid arguments with books on whether a withdrawal was instant or it took a few minutes, would you have an objection to setting a 15 minute rule? Books/exchanges that can't consistently meet a 15 minute withdrawal rule will have their rating decreased. There are going to be exceptions since some withdrawals will be red flagged for security purposes so a couple of withdrawals taking longer will be acceptable. If we do implement this rule, it won't go into affect for a month. Some books have stated that they will have instant withdrawals in place soon. "Gogo- You stated that books should pay us instantly. To avoid arguments with books on whether a withdrawal was instant or it took a few minutes, would you have an objection to setting a 15 minute rule?" My only problem with that would be this: "There are going to be exceptions since some withdrawals will be red flagged for security purposes so a couple of withdrawals taking longer will be acceptable." Defining what is acceptable as far as "a couple of withdrawals taking longer" could be tricky. I realize the books don't want to be specific with their red flags since that would alert people who are scamming what to avoid. But there are some situations which don't make sense to me, and it seems to me that perhaps some books simply don't keep enough staff during the midnight to 7 am period USA time. And also it seems that there is no one on duty during those hours with the authority to ok a large withdrawal. But instead of stating that, they say "A security review is being conducted" which somehow takes hours and doesn't end until about 7 - 9 am USA time, when I am guessing someone with authority is back on duty.
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May 14, 2015, 10:31:02 AM |
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But there are some situations which don't make sense to me, and it seems to me that perhaps some books simply don't keep enough staff during the midnight to 7 am period USA time.
We have staff with authority to approve large withdrawals on shift daily during those hours. Cloudbet
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Gogo ppp
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May 14, 2015, 12:01:01 PM |
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But there are some situations which don't make sense to me, and it seems to me that perhaps some books simply don't keep enough staff during the midnight to 7 am period USA time.
We have staff with authority to approve large withdrawals on shift daily during those hours. Cloudbet That's good. Can you explain why a large withdrawal could take up to 24 hours? It's good that you state this upfront on your website, so people are forewarned. But it doesn't take 24 hours to transfer from a cold wallet to a hot wallet, plus a security review. An hour seems like plenty of time. I have trouble understanding how that can take 24 hours? An hour perhaps...
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May 15, 2015, 05:53:38 AM |
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Update
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fairlay
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May 15, 2015, 05:57:40 AM |
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Would you consider to add Fairlay to this overview?
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www.fairlay.com - the Bitcoin prediction market - the future of reliable information
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May 15, 2015, 06:16:17 AM |
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Would you consider to add Fairlay to this overview?
Will do.
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May 15, 2015, 01:38:35 PM |
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Would you consider to add Fairlay to this overview?
Will do. BetBTC is almost 5 month old and 100% good feedback. Still couldn't manage to leave the D rank. A review on our services wouldn't be a bad idea. If you check our lattest posts you can check there was a boom on the usage since the last month or so (especcially since API is on). On biggest matches we are already having 5+ Bitcoins matched, sometimes reaching more than 10.
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May 16, 2015, 01:54:32 AM Last edit: May 16, 2015, 02:34:55 AM by Gogo ppp |
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Nitrogen does not offer MLB with listed pitchers, all bets (including Totals!!!!) are action only.
This has to be the only sportsbook on Planet Earth that doesn't book MLB with an option of listed pitchers (which is frequently the default).
They deserve a downgrade for this alone.
Jenny in the Nitrogen thread frequently states "We've found that our users prefer..." yet I've never seen a poll or any sort of research on their part as to what their users prefer (on any issue). I'd like to know how it is determined that "We've found that our users prefer..." without polling the users?
If they've truly done research (which they haven't) to determine that the majority of their users who bet MLB want action only, then make that the default but give the option of choosing Listed Pitchers.
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May 16, 2015, 06:03:01 AM |
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Would you consider to add Fairlay to this overview?
Will do. BetBTC is almost 5 month old and 100% good feedback. Still couldn't manage to leave the D rank. A review on our services wouldn't be a bad idea. If you check our lattest posts you can check there was a boom on the usage since the last month or so (especcially since API is on). On biggest matches we are already having 5+ Bitcoins matched, sometimes reaching more than 10. Some upgrades and downgrades will come out next week. Feel free to keep us updated on what's happening at BetBTC.
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May 16, 2015, 06:04:24 AM |
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Nitrogen does not offer MLB with listed pitchers, all bets (including Totals!!!!) are action only.
This has to be the only sportsbook on Planet Earth that doesn't book MLB with an option of listed pitchers (which is frequently the default).
They deserve a downgrade for this alone.
Jenny in the Nitrogen thread frequently states "We've found that our users prefer..." yet I've never seen a poll or any sort of research on their part as to what their users prefer (on any issue). I'd like to know how it is determined that "We've found that our users prefer..." without polling the users?
If they've truly done research (which they haven't) to determine that the majority of their users who bet MLB want action only, then make that the default but give the option of choosing Listed Pitchers.
All action with adjusted prices?
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Gogo ppp
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May 17, 2015, 12:04:31 AM |
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Nitrogen does not offer MLB with listed pitchers, all bets (including Totals!!!!) are action only.
This has to be the only sportsbook on Planet Earth that doesn't book MLB with an option of listed pitchers (which is frequently the default).
They deserve a downgrade for this alone.
Jenny in the Nitrogen thread frequently states "We've found that our users prefer..." yet I've never seen a poll or any sort of research on their part as to what their users prefer (on any issue). I'd like to know how it is determined that "We've found that our users prefer..." without polling the users?
If they've truly done research (which they haven't) to determine that the majority of their users who bet MLB want action only, then make that the default but give the option of choosing Listed Pitchers.
All action with adjusted prices?Yes.
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May 17, 2015, 07:04:01 AM |
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Peeps - " Does anyone have opinions on withdrawal times?"
Yes. Instant.
As you mentioned, several books (like Nitro) have regressed. Instant withdrawals were great for the customer, but now it can take 2.5 - 5 hours.
If they had specific problems with their instant withdrawals, then remedy the problems by improving their systems and software, rather than penalizing their customers with long wait times for withdrawals.
And honesty about withdrawal times would be refreshing. Don't state "It may take a few minutes once in awhile" if it's going to take hours fairly often.
The books should also allow one to opt out of Casino and Poker access, which are frequently used by hackers once they steal one's sportsbook funds, to move the funds out of the book, or gamble them away.
Gogo- You stated that books should pay us instantly. To avoid arguments with books on whether a withdrawal was instant or it took a few minutes, would you have an objection to setting a 15 minute rule? Books/exchanges that can't consistently meet a 15 minute withdrawal rule will have their rating decreased. There are going to be exceptions since some withdrawals will be red flagged for security purposes so a couple of withdrawals taking longer will be acceptable. If we do implement this rule, it won't go into affect for a month. Some books have stated that they will have instant withdrawals in place soon. I'd suggest getting started with this. If you'd like to make it 15 minutes, use that. If a book switches to instant withdrawals at any time, call attention to it.
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May 19, 2015, 06:11:22 AM Last edit: May 19, 2015, 06:33:17 AM by Peeps Place |
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Would you consider to add Fairlay to this overview?
Will do. BetBTC is almost 5 month old and 100% good feedback. Still couldn't manage to leave the D rank. A review on our services wouldn't be a bad idea. If you check our lattest posts you can check there was a boom on the usage since the last month or so (especcially since API is on). On biggest matches we are already having 5+ Bitcoins matched, sometimes reaching more than 10. BetBTC- I'm not looking for an argument but just a question on why you posted this? We officially launched BetBTC on early 2015. BetBTC was the first Dedicated Sports Betting Exchange operating exclusively with Bitcoin (like Betfair) . There are other bitcoin only exchanges out there such as Fairlay.
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