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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170890 times)
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December 01, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
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now without a shadow of a doubt buying at 100 150 sat is much more profitable than mining. If this continue to grow , buying at 200 sat would be better than buying hardware to mine.
Short term yes, long term.. setting up a miner now would probably be more profitable.

Long term will be like 6 - 12 months , price can spike anytime. Mining cannot keep up when price spike up. Fast and big profit when purchase at 100 - 150 sat is defiantly better profit. Who knows what will happen in couple of months time ? We already witness a dramatic network size increase within a short period of time. It's hard to get the same number of burst from mining compare to buying using same amount of money. If u talk about years , mining is better but most people want fast and big profit. There is even a chance home miner can't mine anymore due to datacenter taking control of the network. It's like datacenter is the asic and home miner is gpu.
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December 01, 2014, 12:13:28 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?
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December 01, 2014, 01:14:41 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results
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December 01, 2014, 01:30:06 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results

Its possible, but not worthwhile. A high end 200W-GPU equals about 40GB of disk space. Plus your amount of ram of cause.
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December 01, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
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WTF with dev pool v1? About 14 hours without payments  Angry
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December 01, 2014, 01:41:53 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results

Its possible, but not worthwhile. A high end 200W-GPU equals about 40GB of disk space. Plus your amount of ram of cause.

i do not know if the eqution 200W-GPU = 40GB is right.. but if ita so... it is a waste of time and energy..

or maybe did you want to tell 40TB??

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

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December 01, 2014, 01:54:57 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results

Its possible, but not worthwhile. A high end 200W-GPU equals about 40GB of disk space. Plus your amount of ram of cause.

i do not know if the eqution 200W-GPU = 40GB is right.. but if ita so... it is a waste of time and energy..

or maybe did you want to tell 40TB??

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

This was the result I got with a modified GPU plotter on a R280X. Maybe it can be tuned a little more, but certainly not to 40TB.
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December 01, 2014, 02:25:14 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results

Its possible, but not worthwhile. A high end 200W-GPU equals about 40GB of disk space. Plus your amount of ram of cause.

i do not know if the eqution 200W-GPU = 40GB is right.. but if ita so... it is a waste of time and energy..

or maybe did you want to tell 40TB??

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

This was the result I got with a modified GPU plotter on a R280X. Maybe it can be tuned a little more, but certainly not to 40TB.

a highly optimized code may get close to 12 TB in 240 seconds if only the memory bandwidth would be the limit.
i think of some sort of nonce to deadline code comparable to what the wallet does while verifying.
either way you compare 250 watts against 14 watts which makes it impossible to mine with gpu.



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December 01, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
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What if someone did gpu miner? One part of miner write in RAM file, other part read, then RAM clear and again in a circle? Its possible?

nothing change...
someone has tried some hundred pages ago...
but without any results

Its possible, but not worthwhile. A high end 200W-GPU equals about 40GB of disk space. Plus your amount of ram of cause.

i do not know if the eqution 200W-GPU = 40GB is right.. but if ita so... it is a waste of time and energy..

or maybe did you want to tell 40TB??

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

This was the result I got with a modified GPU plotter on a R280X. Maybe it can be tuned a little more, but certainly not to 40TB.

ok...
i understand...

and so..
i think it is really a waste of time and money!!!

 Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

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December 01, 2014, 02:35:37 PM
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if only the memory bandwidth would be the limit.

But its not. You can't just ignore the biggest part of the equation.

i think of some sort of nonce to deadline code comparable to what the wallet does while verifying.

Of cause thats what you are doing. Generate the whole nonce, take the scoop you need and check it for the deadline.

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ok...
i understand...

and so..
i think it is really a waste of time and money!!!

The dev did a really good job on making GPU/CPU-mining infeasible. I spent a lot of time trying to find a way - but couldn't find one.
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December 01, 2014, 02:58:03 PM
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if only the memory bandwidth would be the limit.

But its not. You can't just ignore the biggest part of the equation.

i think of some sort of nonce to deadline code comparable to what the wallet does while verifying.

Of cause thats what you are doing. Generate the whole nonce, take the scoop you need and check it for the deadline.

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ok...
i understand...

and so..
i think it is really a waste of time and money!!!

The dev did a really good job on making GPU/CPU-mining infeasible. I spent a lot of time trying to find a way - but couldn't find one.

burst dev is an hard worker..

he write not so much... but he works a lot...

  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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December 01, 2014, 03:04:12 PM
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This coin call my attention, im reading how this work and from my point of view the dev is doing a great job.

PoC is just a new idea and i start to love it Tongue, i just buy 2tb external hdd to start mining it, do you think is enought for a good start?


i will try to use this miner -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9696842#msg9696842   

with the poolV2 config, i will post the results as soon as my new hdd come Wink

I will keep and eye on this thread and come back more often!!

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December 01, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
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okae your welcome.... Smiley
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December 01, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
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This coin call my attention, im reading how this work and from my point of view the dev is doing a great job.

PoC is just a new idea and i start to love it Tongue, i just buy 2tb external hdd to start mining it, do you think is enought for a good start?


i will try to use this miner -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9696842#msg9696842   

with the poolV2 config, i will post the results as soon as my new hdd come Wink

I will keep and eye on this thread and come back more often!!

you are welcome!!

but i hope you increase your TB soon to get some burst!!!

 Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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December 01, 2014, 04:32:40 PM
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and so..
i think it is really a waste of time and money!!!

The dev did a really good job on making GPU/CPU-mining infeasible. I spent a lot of time trying to find a way - but couldn't find one.

+1    Grin

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December 01, 2014, 05:44:25 PM
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looks like the last diff increase pushed the trade volumes on the exchanges towards zero.
is this a good or a bad sign?

today i finished my tests with a arm based standalone miner.
plots are parsed at 8mb/s (mainly limited by the cpu) which is enough to run a 6tb sata drive with it.
i used one of these 50$ boards and a 6tb wd red hdd.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6DB2337144&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K0X38255&cm_re=sd_card-_-20-134-527-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236737&cm_re=6tb-_-22-236-737-_-Product

it has been a bit tricky to power this with a regular power supply but there is no magic involved.
once the device is booted up the sd card is not needed anymore cause everything runs from ram.
to fill the drive up with plots i attached it to a regular pc. the wallet still runs on a regular pc cause i mine solo.
during the next couple of days i expect to have tested the average power consumption for this setup in production.
so far the setup seems to require less than 6 watts on average.
if anyone is interested in putting a ready to mine image together and maintain it (eg. someone with a pool) pm me for details.

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December 01, 2014, 06:13:52 PM
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i have this error with latest blago miner release...
"share lost due the new block"
and
passfhare is for different account?Huh



hi blago!!!

any idea about this error???

all work fine with miner-burst-1.141020.
this is the config

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "pool",
   "Server" : "cryptomining.farm",
   "Port": 80,
   "Paths":["G:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "H:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "I:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "J:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "K:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "L:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 100000,
   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,
   "UseSorting" : true,
   "Debug": true,
   "UseResponseMaxTime": false,
   "ResponseMaxTime": 60,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 3000,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "localhost",
   "UpdaterPort": 8125
}

but with miner-burst-1.141129
and this config

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "pool",

   "Server" : "cryptomining.farm",
   "Port": 80,

   "UpdaterAddr" : "localhost",
   "UpdaterPort": 8125,

   "EnableProxy": false,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

   "Paths":["G:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "H:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "I:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "J:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "K:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "L:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : true,
   "Debug": false,

   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}

i get the error above!
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December 01, 2014, 06:30:05 PM
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looks like the last diff increase pushed the trade volumes on the exchanges towards zero.
is this a good or a bad sign?

I dont see anything out of ordinary volume wise, maybe even slight more volume (used to be 2BTC avg volume, now its around 3, across all 3 exchanges). The top volume moved from polo to cex recently, though.

today i finished my tests with a arm based standalone miner.
plots are parsed at 8mb/s (mainly limited by the cpu) which is enough to run a 6tb sata drive with it.

i used one of these 50$ boards and a 6tb wd red hdd.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6DB2337144&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K0X38255&cm_re=sd_card-_-20-134-527-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236737&cm_re=6tb-_-22-236-737-_-Product

it has been a bit tricky to power this with a regular power supply but there is no magic involved.
once the device is booted up the sd card is not needed anymore cause everything runs from ram.
to fill the drive up with plots i attached it to a regular pc. the wallet still runs on a regular pc cause i mine solo.
during the next couple of days i expect to have tested the average power consumption for this setup in production.
so far the setup seems to require less than 6 watts on average.
if anyone is interested in putting a ready to mine image together and maintain it (eg. someone with a pool) pm me for details.

Neat!

I'm of the opinion raspis are far too expensive to cover ROI but to each of their own.

What about consumer hardware with other purpose already (wireless routers with USB2 ports in particular). Some are fairly "powerful", almost as a raspi, ie this is what I have:

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300

Shabal probably sucks roughly the same there as well.
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December 01, 2014, 07:00:58 PM
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i have this error with latest blago miner release...
"share lost due the new block"
and
passfhare is for different account?Huh



hi blago!!!

any idea about this error???

all work fine with miner-burst-1.141020.
this is the config

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "pool",
   "Server" : "cryptomining.farm",
   "Port": 80,
   "Paths":["G:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "H:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "I:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "J:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "K:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "L:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 100000,
   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,
   "UseSorting" : true,
   "Debug": true,
   "UseResponseMaxTime": false,
   "ResponseMaxTime": 60,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 3000,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "localhost",
   "UpdaterPort": 8125
}

but with miner-burst-1.141129
and this config

Code:
{
   "Mode" : "pool",

   "Server" : "cryptomining.farm",
   "Port": 80,

   "UpdaterAddr" : "localhost",
   "UpdaterPort": 8125,

   "EnableProxy": false,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

   "Paths":["G:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "H:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "I:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "J:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "K:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots", "L:\\BURST_Miner\\dcct\\plots"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false ,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : true,
   "Debug": false,

   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "UseFastRcv" : true,
   "SendInterval": 100,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000
}

i get the error above!

UP UP UP UP UP UP UP

i want to use new blago miner...
but i need to fix this problem befor!!!

any idea about how to do?
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December 01, 2014, 07:03:42 PM
Last edit: December 01, 2014, 07:18:41 PM by Blago
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hi blago!!!

any idea about this error???

....

i get the error above!

it's just artifact in fast blocks, miner sending share whith deadline=0 and ID=0. i'm try to correct it's in the future...  do not pay attention.

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