[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[bloodDiamond]

hi blago!!!

any idea about this error???

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i get the error above!

it's just artifact in fast blocks, miner sending share whith deadline=0 and ID=0. i'm try to correct it's in the future...  do not pay attention.

ok thank you!!!

i continue to use!!!

thank you again!!!!

 

[Trollollo]

This coin call my attention, im reading how this work and from my point of view the dev is doing a great job.

PoC is just a new idea and i start to love it , i just buy 2tb external hdd to start mining it, do you think is enought for a good start?


i will try to use this miner -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9696842#msg9696842   

with the poolV2 config, i will post the results as soon as my new hdd come

I will keep and eye on this thread and come back more often!!

You are welcome to community!Well...2TB will be enough to test POC mining at the moment.With current diff you will get about 1000-2000 burst/day and you can forget about solo mining.I have found 0 blocks solo in 5 days with 16 TB.If you need some help,you can PM me any time.

[callmejack]

looks like the last diff increase pushed the trade volumes on the exchanges towards zero.
is this a good or a bad sign?

I dont see anything out of ordinary volume wise, maybe even slight more volume (used to be 2BTC avg volume, now its around 3, across all 3 exchanges). The top volume moved from polo to cex recently, though.

today i finished my tests with a arm based standalone miner.
plots are parsed at 8mb/s (mainly limited by the cpu) which is enough to run a 6tb sata drive with it.

i used one of these 50$ boards and a 6tb wd red hdd.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6DB2337144&cm_re=banana_pi-_-9SIA6DB2337144-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K0X38255&cm_re=sd_card-_-20-134-527-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236737&cm_re=6tb-_-22-236-737-_-Product

it has been a bit tricky to power this with a regular power supply but there is no magic involved.
once the device is booted up the sd card is not needed anymore cause everything runs from ram.
to fill the drive up with plots i attached it to a regular pc. the wallet still runs on a regular pc cause i mine solo.
during the next couple of days i expect to have tested the average power consumption for this setup in production.
so far the setup seems to require less than 6 watts on average.
if anyone is interested in putting a ready to mine image together and maintain it (eg. someone with a pool) pm me for details.

Neat!

I'm of the opinion raspis are far too expensive to cover ROI but to each of their own.

What about consumer hardware with other purpose already (wireless routers with USB2 ports in particular). Some are fairly "powerful", almost as a raspi, ie this is what I have:

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300

Shabal probably sucks roughly the same there as well.

should be possible from memory perspective but i dont know if the mips cpu is fast enough for mining.
the shabal source for mips (http://www.shabal.com/?p=213#more-213) exists and needs only be replaced in dccts miner with the mips version.
i used ddwrt on tplinks in the past by my own for vpn setups and know that they are not the fastest.
simplest thing would be to replace the shabal.s file and crosscompile it for the platform for a test.
in general i would say using embedded router on top of routing for mining only makes sense for faster models which have enough cpu power.
the nice thing with the banana pi is that it provides a sata port which also supports port multipliers (really slow).
adding a usb disk to a ddwrt tplink router may be much simpler and even cheaper if it works.
what i may look into soon is a fpga shabal implementation. on a virtex-5 a throughput of 2gbit should be possible. i have not looked onto the memory options which exist but maybe this is a nice option for future developments to plot large farms. one fpga may create about 100 mb plots per second.

[s4m0ht]

Dear All,

I've been downloading all the stuff to mine, but when I try to join (any) pool it tells me that I cannot change the reward recipient. I tried to receive some burst via a faucet, but even then the faucet gives some error. (I've set-up solo mining, but I keep on getting "Error reading file: ACCOUNTID_1_8..._8191", where 1, 8.., 8191 are the parameters I've set for the miner.

Any of you had the same problem? I've been following the guide for linux in this very topic, the wallet works, the plotting is stuck on this line:"generating from nonce: 1, writing from nonce1; generating from nonce 8192;".
I've set up about 8M plots, that should be about 2Tb, maybe I must finish for this process to end before mining? Maybe the starting plot (parameter which I set to 1) should be some actual filename not just an id number?

Is there anything else I should do to activate the wallet? At least to receive the faucet burst for testing it out?

Thanks for your assistance!

[okae]

okae your welcome....

TY bobafett

you are welcome!!

but i hope you increase your TB soon to get some burst!!!

 

TY rollingMyCar, i hope that too, thats my plan to continue increasing it, but you know the money is the problem so i will do it but slowly

You are welcome to community!Well...2TB will be enough to test POC mining at the moment.With current diff you will get about 1000-2000 burst/day and you can forget about solo mining.I have found 0 blocks solo in 5 days with 16 TB.If you need some help,you can PM me any time.

TY Trollollo, i dont want to bother you with questions, but if i really need help i will considered it, ty again for all!!

[katlogic]

memory options which exist but maybe this is a nice option for future developments to plot large farms. one fpga may create about 100 mb plots per second.

Interesting, especially wrt what burstdev said earlier, to get accurate ballparks of what is possible to do in hardware. Shabal is 40 rounds of 1536 bits state, and the plot algo needs 256kbyte. I presume you'll see fairly scrypt-ish behaviour there, adjusted by more complexity of shabal vs salsa20.

[mmmaybe]

How do we interpret that the trend of the number of wallets created broke at about the same time as the huge increase in network size?

[Haruko]

How do we interpret that the trend of the number of wallets created broke at about the same time as the huge increase in network size?

good question...

but i do not have the answer..

newbie here :-)

[sickfancy]

How do we interpret that the trend of the number of wallets created broke at about the same time as the huge increase in network size?

It could mean that the huge increase of network size is due to many users joining which is much more preferable than due to one giant data center.

[Nevril]

Too soon to give a reliable answer but I'll opt for the easier: Burst is getting known and mined by some new people.
Anyway, in these cases is better to hold 100% of mined coins and wait to get a better idea of what is happening. Increase in difficulty and number of miners needs to be coupled with an increase in the value of the coin or, at least, stability.

[mmmaybe]

Too soon to give a reliable answer but I'll opt for the easier: Burst is getting known and mined by some new people.
Anyway, in these cases is better to hold 100% of mined coins and wait to get a better idea of what is happening. Increase in difficulty and number of miners needs to be coupled with an increase in the value of the coin or, at least, stability.

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

It's just a guess - is it possible to do some closer analysis of wallets created the last week/ten days? For instance that a certain amount of newly created accounts contains approximately equal amounts of coins?

What do know is that we haven't seen is any big dump yet. Time will tell, I guess, but it's an interesting development atm.

[crazyearner]

Am happy that this coin is eventual taking off and more are getting evolved. No clones of this coin have been made yet so its a nice new coin to have that stands out from the crowd of other cryptos theat burn energy as where this burn next to nothing other than filling space up on hard drives and plotting and mining away.

[callmejack]

How do we interpret that the trend of the number of wallets created broke at about the same time as the huge increase in network size?

It could mean that the huge increase of network size is due to many users joining which is much more preferable than due to one giant data center.

most datacenters have much higher free capacities than the current diff increase shows.
i know people who setup 45 disk jbods at home to mine burst and others asked me two month ago how much they can expect from each pb they add at work. the diff raised quite fast from .5 pb to 5pb over 3pb and settled much too long around 6 pb.
while bitcoin shows a negative diff for the next change estimate burst increased really much.
i personally think people got tired of catching up with the newest asic generation every 6 month before their previous invest shows a roi and therefore they try out what they think shows a huge profit perspective.
in fact there are no real options on the open market to rent mining gears for burst cause datacenters built their server for reliability.
there exists no offer to rent consumer grade equipment for "consumer" prices.
this means you have to invest in hardware or buy burst directly.
for the long term burst economy it is much better to invest into mining rigs instead of buying the coins on the exchanges directly.
only if the mining costs become high the price follows. the current price has been stable since the diff reached 6pb. therefore it is logical to follow the new diff level soon. each pb fresh storage costs roughly 100000$ in hardware. this is currently about 10% of  the network size.
in other words burst price should be around 800 satoshi. maybe this is why trading burst in volumes of above 1m a day on exchanges is almost impossible.
there are about 100m deposited on exchanges and roughly less than 1% of that got traded during the last 24h.
i dont think it is because nobody wants to buy. i think it is because people dont want to sell.
since i followed burst prices it has always been tough to buy volumes anywhere without pumping the price over 100% where it was before.
since the diff has increases for the first time after a while i expect the price to follow soon.

[katlogic]

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

Did a cursory analysis. Some of the new wallets seem to solo mine with comparably high hash rate (15-30TB at least, as some have interval between blocks a day or two), spotted about a dozen - for example recent one - http://burstcoin.eu/address/14335543884474859574 . My working theory its a big miner op, with separate wallet per each server.

[mmmaybe]

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

Did a cursory analysis. Some of the new wallets seem to solo mine with comparably high hash rate (15-30TB at least, as some have interval between blocks a day or two), spotted about a dozen - for example recent one - http://burstcoin.eu/address/14335543884474859574 . My working theory its a big miner op, with separate wallet per each server.

Thanks, that make sense, even if I believed each wallet/server/computer would have more capacity than that.

Can you please expand on how you did the analysis?

[xizmax]

Dear All,

I've been downloading all the stuff to mine, but when I try to join (any) pool it tells me that I cannot change the reward recipient.
I tried to receive some burst via a faucet, but even then the faucet gives some error. (I've set-up solo mining, but I keep on getting "Error reading file: ACCOUNTID_1_8..._8191", where 1, 8.., 8191 are the parameters I've set for the miner.

What is the faucet error? If it doesn't work post your address here, we can send you some Burst. Do an outgoing transaction afterwards to secure yourself. IIRC you are mineable until you make an outgoing transaction.

Any of you had the same problem? I've been following the guide for linux in this very topic, the wallet works, the plotting is stuck on this line:"generating from nonce: 1, writing from nonce1; generating from nonce 8192;".
I've set up about 8M plots, that should be about 2Tb, maybe I must finish for this process to end before mining? Maybe the starting plot (parameter which I set to 1) should be some actual filename not just an id number?

Is there anything else I should do to activate the wallet? At least to receive the faucet burst for testing it out?

Thanks for your assistance!

You can start mining while you are plotting, just dont expect amazing payouts
Also with current diff, 2tb is too small for solo mining.

I presume you are using the java plotter. If so, it might not be stuck - just very slow. I suggest using a different plotter.

http://burstcoin.eu/downloads here are some useful tools.

Also check out crowetic guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bc1LIG0vOYYW6FxgBHhQGjKqm0aWoSClkqaNJx17wWk/edit?pli=1
it is a windows guide but it explains stuff really well

[Alpinist]

Is there any possibility to automate the generating of sets BURST ADDRESS <-> PASSWORD <-> POOLv1 ID?

[burstcoin]

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

Did a cursory analysis. Some of the new wallets seem to solo mine with comparably high hash rate (15-30TB at least, as some have interval between blocks a day or two), spotted about a dozen - for example recent one - http://burstcoin.eu/address/14335543884474859574 . My working theory its a big miner op, with separate wallet per each server.

This seems to go along with what I've noticed just looking at the recent block list in the wallet. It seems there are a large number of blocks found recently by accounts that have no transactions and have only found 1-2 blocks.

[mmmaybe]

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

Did a cursory analysis. Some of the new wallets seem to solo mine with comparably high hash rate (15-30TB at least, as some have interval between blocks a day or two), spotted about a dozen - for example recent one - http://burstcoin.eu/address/14335543884474859574 . My working theory its a big miner op, with separate wallet per each server.

This seems to go along with what I've noticed just looking at the recent block list in the wallet. It seems there are a large number of blocks found recently by accounts that have no transactions and have only found 1-2 blocks.

Really interesting! Do the accounts stop mining after finding one or two blocks??

[yellowduck2]

Yes.

On the other hand, a smart big actor doesn't want to have one huge wallet where the transactions can be pinpointed ("x sent y million to polo now!"). I do think Burst has gotten more users and that contributes to the network size, but also that one or several big actors are creating new wallets not to draw attention to a single wallet getting really huge/traceable.

Did a cursory analysis. Some of the new wallets seem to solo mine with comparably high hash rate (15-30TB at least, as some have interval between blocks a day or two), spotted about a dozen - for example recent one - http://burstcoin.eu/address/14335543884474859574 . My working theory its a big miner op, with separate wallet per each server.

This seems to go along with what I've noticed just looking at the recent block list in the wallet. It seems there are a large number of blocks found recently by accounts that have no transactions and have only found 1-2 blocks.

This can be very good news or very bad news. Depending on who is controlling those account , what method they use to mine and what they intend to do.

The sudden network increase look as if "ASIC" was plug online for the first time. Like people use to mine bitcoin with GPU and the very first ASIC came online, difficulty went all the way up and never look back.

Are we in similar situation ? The first difficulty increase is only the beginning. Soon all miner will be phase out and those big miner take over the network. If so , any suggestion on what we can do about it ?