Why do people hate islam?

[BADecker]

I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.

Fwd: Snopes CEO arrested on charges of fraud and corruption


A retired LAPD Sergeant friend forwarded this to me today.  This information contained in this e-mail has not been verified, but I felt that I would pass it along anyway.
             
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                I've said all along that Snopes was being paid on the side to skew the truth!


                    Suspicions confirmed
                     
                    > > LOS ANGELES, CA -  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > owners Barbara and David Mikkelson were detained by police today after an unrelated investigation of a  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > editor lead police onto a paper trail of corruption, bribery, and fraud at the very heart of the fact-checking organization.
                     
                    > > Evidence obtained by police has revealed that  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ >, which markets itself as "the definitive Internet reference source for urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation," has a history of accepting money and favors from left-leaning and pro-Islamic political groups and individuals for helping them to advance their cause by rigging public discourse with selective fact-finding and deliberate manipulation of public opinion.
                     
                    > > Late Monday morning, Brian Williston, a  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > editor, who also doubles as the accountant, found himself at a flea market on the outskirts of Los Angeles. As he was browsing the different tables and tents looking for antiques, an old mechanical piano began playing Dixie's Land, a song that was adopted as a de facto anthem of the Confederacy during the American Civil War and is now considered offensive by some due to its link to the iconography and ideology of the Old South.
                     
                    > > The tune sparked an outrage in Williston, who began yelling and cursing those who "would like to bring back slavery and racial separation," and ordering the vendors to "turn off that racist music." When no one nearby claimed to know how to turn off the one-hundred-year-old machine, Williston became violent. He started grabbing various antique objects from the vendors' tables and throwing them at the antique piano in an attempt to silence the music.
                     
                    > > A bystander, later identified as William Barksdale, working as a courier for the L.A. Messenger Service, attempted to calm Williston down, saying that "someone is just trying to see if that the piano still works" and "it's only a song, don't shoot the pianist," but that only prompted the infuriated editor to redirect his rage to the messenger. Williston, who is white, began to choke Barksdale, who is black, while screaming "Shut up! Shut up!" as the mechanical piano continued to play Dixie's Land in the background.

                    > > After some of the shoppers intervened and pried Williston's hands off the courier's throat, the  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > editor fled the scene of the incident. LAPD quickly identified Williston by the personal check he left with one of the vendors, which contained his full name and address. While inside his home, Williston ignored commands to open the door, causing police to use forced entry in order to detain him.
                     
                    > > The arresting officer caught Williston slipping some papers under a Persian rug, which prompted the police to remove the rug and examine the documents underneath it. One of them turned out to be a handwritten ledger, containing names of well-known individuals and organizations who have been paying  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > to debunk stories that cast them in a bad light, while validating damaging half-truths and rumors about their political opponents.

                    > > Having established their website as a reputable resource for validating and debunking stories in American popular culture since 1995, the Mikkelson couple soon found themselves in a position to influence public discourse by punishing or rewarding certain cultural and political biases. Before long they were accepting money to promote some rumors and downplay or completely ignore some others, which over the years have brought them millions of dollars, according to the source.

                    > > Especially scandalous may be the website's possible collaboration with left-leaning national media organizations, which started with payments to  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > to overlook or validate their inaccurate and biased reporting, and eventually evolved into a full-scale coordinated effort with left-leaning groups and public relation firms to construct a media narrative that gave legitimacy to certain opinions, political causes and public figures, while discrediting other opinions, causes, and public figures.

                    > > The list of groups and individuals paying to use the website's clout ranged from local politicians to transnational entities to foreign governments, including Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the Palestinian Authority. None of the specifics or individual names are being revealed while the investigation is still ongoing, but a police source has indicated that "the shockwaves will rock the world of the media and the political establishment."

                    > > Several watchdog groups have already condemned  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ > as a corrupt organization with zero credibility and urged their readers to disregard any political debunking from this tainted source. But some media experts predict that, given the high-profile names involved, as well as the power and magnitude of the political opinion-generating machine of which  Snopes.com < http://snopes.com/ > was only a small wheel, the story may never be allowed to reach a full-blown scandal and will soon be discarded as an urban legend, joining a long line of other similar stories debunked by  Snopes.com  < http://snopes.com/ >.

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We checked this story with Snopes and found that it is not true.

[awesome31312]

I hate how people treat Snopes like the ultimate unbiased source of factual information. There is not a single source on the internet that is free of bias and misinformation. One can minimize it by using multiple sources but that's about it.

[Wapinter]

I, like many others, saw the video of Palestinians celebrating on the same day. It was after the towers had come down. And it was clear they knew what they were celebrating. It is also historically obvious that Palestinians support terrorism, due to an extremely long list of incidents. It was a few years later that I started hearing people rewrite history to say things like "that was video of a wedding" when it obviously wasn't.

Do you know why you're denying that Palestinians celebrated 9/11? I do.

"The blood of a thousand Arabs is not worth a Jewish fingernail"
~Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, on the Eve of celebration of an Israeli terrorist attack by Baruch Goldstein

OK. I accept that you're opposed to violence when it's committed by Jews. Based on your other comments I also accept that you're opposed to violence when it's committed by people you decide are "white" (or maybe "white enough"). But Muslims? Non-whites? Well, then you're willing to make up stories about how it's actually the fault of Jews and/or "whites." I'm really glad I don't have to deal with you in real life and only in this sewer of a forum.

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

[Biomech]

I can't take anyone that has misinformation such as "Palestinians celebrated 9/11" on their profile seriously.

If you're talking about the Washington Bridge incident in 2001, they never verified the race of the people "celebrating". Secondly, they could not have been "celebrating", because the towers wouldn't go down until later during the day.

is this guy for real? they were handing out sweets "from osama bin laden" in the street

i would have gone with it was only a handful of palestinians (true) or they were perfectly justified in hating jewmerica (also true) instead of pretending something millions of us saw with our own eyes that day didn't happen

Do you know anything about the flag you're using on your profile?

JJ Philips, you really are a violent person if you are serious about your claim regarding extermination of the human race.

Do you? It represented some good and bad things, but the fact of the matters remains very clear if you bother to study history:

The war between the states was unjustifiable.

[BADecker]

I can't take anyone that has misinformation such as "Palestinians celebrated 9/11" on their profile seriously.

If you're talking about the Washington Bridge incident in 2001, they never verified the race of the people "celebrating". Secondly, they could not have been "celebrating", because the towers wouldn't go down until later during the day.

is this guy for real? they were handing out sweets "from osama bin laden" in the street

i would have gone with it was only a handful of palestinians (true) or they were perfectly justified in hating jewmerica (also true) instead of pretending something millions of us saw with our own eyes that day didn't happen

Do you know anything about the flag you're using on your profile?

JJ Philips, you really are a violent person if you are serious about your claim regarding extermination of the human race.

Do you? It represented some good and bad things, but the fact of the matters remains very clear if you bother to study history:

The war between the states was unjustifiable.

Absolutely right! The South was correct in its theme about secession. They simply went about it in a stupid way. If they were smart, they would have set up new South governments, allowed the old ones to remain in place, and simply defunded them to the point that they were worthless, even if they had to maintain some state assembly people in the old governments to make them look good.

[Kabapka]

I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.

maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.

[Spendulus]

I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.

maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.

I remember that incident.   They were celebrating the actions of Muslim Terrorists in bringing down the two towers.  They were interviewed on the streets.

[J. J. Phillips]

JJ Philips, you really are a violent person if you are serious about your claim regarding extermination of the human race.

It's a conditional statement. If you don't want me to exterminate the human race, just keep Israel from being destroyed. It's to let you know you all have skin in the game. Every step you take towards help millions of Jews be killed -- again! -- is a step towards your own extermination.

But to set your mind at ease, I won't exterminate the human race through violence. I can use nanorobots to sterilize everyone.

[Inkvor]

I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.

maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.

I remember that incident.   They were celebrating the actions of Muslim Terrorists in bringing down the two towers.  They were interviewed on the streets.

dude you are a legendary ?? please unchain your mind, there was no foreigner involved in that incident ..
why did the towers got insaurance for terrorist attacks just a month before ? everything was planned .
and how many bucks do u need to give to 5 people to come on streets and dance for some minutes ?

[Spendulus]

I added a link to snopes to my signature that verifies that Palestians celebrated 9/11, something which is obviously completely obvious anyway.

maybe they were celebrating seeing the internal conflicts, I don't think there was any foreigner involved in that incident.

I remember that incident.   They were celebrating the actions of Muslim Terrorists in bringing down the two towers.  They were interviewed on the streets.

dude you are a legendary ?? please unchain your mind, there was no foreigner involved in that incident ..
why did the towers got insaurance for terrorist attacks just a month before ? everything was planned .
and how many bucks do u need to give to 5 people to come on streets and dance for some minutes ?

Maybe because it was renew insurance time?

LOL do you have a point?

First you argue they were not dancing celebrating 911, now you say they were but they were paid? 

[J. J. Phillips]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

[BADecker]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

[awesome31312]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

[BADecker]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

[awesome31312]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)


For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven  (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)  Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself.  None other then Jesus said so.

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

If you ever did go to court, you'd get sued for being a shitty lawyer

[BADecker]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

The Christian religion says that the Torah laws were given to the nation of Israel, and those who say that they are part of the nation of Israel.

Since I am not of that nation of Israel, those laws don't apply to me in the sense that I can be arrested for not obeying. Besides, I have not been accused of breaking this law even if it could be applied to me. No accusation, no arrest.

On top of that, I am part of the spiritual Israel. There is complete forgiveness there. God has not accused me, nor has any man. What are you blabbing about? Are you going to make false accusations against me?

However, thank you for this opportunity to respond. It gives me practice responding, in the event I ever need to go to court.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)


For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven  (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)  Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself.  None other then Jesus said so.

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

If you ever did go to court, you'd get sued for being a shitty lawyer

Did God give the law of Israel to the Egyptians? NO. How about to the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no. Well then who did He give it to. The people of Israel, right?

Israel that exists today is not the Israel of God. They were set in place by the U.S. to make inroads into the Middle East for oil purposes. However, God holds Israel in His heart, so that all those who profess to be part of the physical Israel must obey the laws of physical Israel.

The part of the Bible that is for the Gentiles and everybody is the part about faith in Jesus, Jesus salvation.

If I happen to have some Jewish blood in me, I don't really know it for sure. But even then, I am not professing to be part of the physical nation of Israel. I am part of the spiritual Israel, the one that believes in Jesus salvation.

Even the early church didn't impose the Law given to Israel onto the gentiles. Acts 16:19-21:

“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

You want to be under the law like Israel was? Go ahead.

[awesome31312]

Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.

[BADecker]

Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.

Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

[awesome31312]

Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.

Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

A book doesn't have authority over any other human being. Humans have the illusion that books dictate their lives

[BADecker]

Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.

Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

A book doesn't have authority over any other human being. Humans have the illusion that books dictate their lives

True. But the difference with the Bible is, it is through reading the Bible, or listening to it on Bible CDs, the Holy Spirit of God makes inroads into peoples' lives. Thus the authority of God will appear through the people who are one God's side because they have read the Bible.

Not everyone listens to the calling of the Holy Spirit when they read the Bible. It is doubly sad for them, because they came so close, yet lost it all.