Why do people hate islam?

[Biomech]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

I was thinking much the same thing. Christianity, by and large, has become a semi peaceful religion in which it's most fervent adherents only wish death upon the unbeliever, rather than making it happen. 700 years ago, you couldn't say that. Maybe in 700 years, Islam will grow up some too. (that number is not arbitrary)

[Biomech]

Did God give the Bible to the Egyptians? Nope. How about the Japs? Well, no. The Chinese? Ah, no.

Therefore, the Bible has no authority anymore.

Lots of Egyptians, Nipponese, Chinese, and others have gone out and bought a Bible at the store. Therefore the Bible does have authority for them.

By this logic, in my own case, I should be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Satanic, Zoroastrian, Discordian, Republican, Democrat, Tory, and on and on. I have purchased a great many books and read even more than that. I claim they have NO authority over me. Have they influenced me? Oh, definitely. Particularly, the first ones in my list. The Bible, the Bhagavit-veda (sp?), the Q'uran, the Torah, all of these have taught me that MEN made god in their image. And that said image was usually heavily influenced by the will to power, and judging by the imagery, hallucinogens. There is no better argument for agnostic beliefs than the holy books of the various religions. Especially if you read a bunch of 'em.

[BADecker]

Terrorism emanates from hate and going by your posts I can say you harbour lot of hate towards muslims.Thank god people like you are confined to express their hatred online only

I don't hate Muslims. In my experience most Muslims are like most Christians -- they don't know jack shit about their religion. The problem with Muslims is only if they start learning about their religion and taking it seriously. I suspect most Muslims who get to the point that they start learning about their religion either (1) stop learning about it because of the consequences or (2) stop believing in Islam but pretend to in order to stay alive. It's the third category -- those that learn about it and believe more fervently -- that form groups like ISIS.

Yes!

This is the thing that I have been trying to get people to understand for a long time, now.

People just can't get it through their thick skulls that Islam is that violent... at least not until they become full fledged Muslims, and then it is too late to back out easily.

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."

It's the word of God, follow your religion, then get arrested

People in glass houses should not pelt stones.

I was thinking much the same thing. Christianity, by and large, has become a semi peaceful religion in which it's most fervent adherents only wish death upon the unbeliever, rather than making it happen. 700 years ago, you couldn't say that. Maybe in 700 years, Islam will grow up some too. (that number is not arbitrary)

The Christian document from which everything else Christian is taken is the Bible. Just because some people call themselves Christian, and then don't act according to the document, doesn't mean they are really Christian. It is similar for Islam. You can call yourself Muslim all day long, but if you don't act according to the document, you are not acting Muslim.

Christian documents, especially the New Testament have no directives for violence. In fact, the directives are to do exactly the opposite even in the face of violence done to the Christian... like turning the other cheek.

The gist of the Islamic documents is, peace to fellow Muslims, peace to non-Muslims while there is the chance that they might turn and become Muslims, and violence against all who adamantly will not become Muslim or those who turn away from Islam having once been Muslim.

You can strap all kinds of religious words and names to yourself, but if you do not follow the dictates of the religion, you are not really part of that religion.

[awesome31312]

I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

[BADecker]

I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

[awesome31312]

I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

That's....beautiful actually.

[BADecker]

I don't mind constructive criticism of any religion whatsoever. My issue lies merely with people like BADecker, who try to put down other religions, when their own beliefs are identical to the ones they are so judgmental upon.

My beliefs are the same as yours. I have never tried it, but I believe that if I stop eating food, drinking water, and breathing air, I will die because of it. Don't you believe the same about yourself? Neither of us has tried it for very long.

But in other beliefs we may be extremely different.

Judgmental is the way we all are. We make judgments about many things every day.

Islam preaches that the way to Heaven is through good works of the individual. Christianity preaches that the way to Heaven is by believing that Jesus did the good works for all people, and offers people Heaven as a gift... if they believe and trust in Him.

That's....beautiful actually.

I'm glad you think so.

Unfortunately, it is often the Christians who have hurt God the most. Often they realize their free Jesus salvation, and so don't take the time to do what is right as hard as they would if it all depended on themselves. It hurts God and their fellow people. But they still are forgiven and saved if they continue to believe in Jesus.

One of the biggest problems with the sinning Christian - and one need to be careful how he understands this, so that he doesn't start to depend on his own non-sinning - sinning eats away at the faith in Jesus. If the faith is lost, the person is lost.

[acroman08]

I'm not a huge fan of any religion, but hating them is not one of them.
I can listen and learn from them but I'm not giving my life for them. I know they are meant to be good but most religious people judge so quickly without even thinking about it.
 

[Biomech]

I'm not a huge fan of any religion, but hating them is not one of them.
I can listen and learn from them but I'm not giving my life for them. I know they are meant to be good but most religious people judge so quickly without even thinking about it.
 

The good things in religion (any religion as far as I've been able to ascertain) are shared by all philosophies. Be decent to your neighbors, don't steal, don't murder, things of that nature.

Unfortunately, they add a lot of shit on top of that, and with a god as backing, believers will ignore the contradictions, embrace the things that destroy the good, and generally muck things up. At the root of all organized religions is the will to power.

Having been raised a Christian, I do have a fair amount of hatred for that particular boondoggle. I try not to. I don't hate Christians, but I do distrust them. Because of their religion, and it's customs. Since I am an unbeliever, a great many of them do not see it as immoral to cheat me, where they would never think of such a thing with one of their own.

In spite of that, I still maintain that most religious people (and I count many of many faiths among my friends) are decent people. Usually in spite of their religion, not because of it. It actually frightens me a great deal when I hear religious people claiming that their particular book/prophet/drug trip is all that restrains them from raping and pillaging. If true, then those people are a deficit to the human race REGARDLESS of their faith. Yet they present this as a positive argument. I don't rape and pillage because it's simply wrong.

[Inkvor]

At the root of all organized religions is the will to power.

what made you think to exclude WOMEN ? and in this centuary money ' too.

I don't hate Christians, but I do distrust them. Because of their religion.

A bit racist ? maybe you meant to say you dont trust any religios person or theist ?
using the word christian' is a bit sahdy again.

[Biomech]

At the root of all organized religions is the will to power.

what made you think to exclude WOMEN ? and in this centuary money ' too.

I don't hate Christians, but I do distrust them. Because of their religion.

A bit racist ? maybe you meant to say you dont trust any religios person or theist ?
using the word christian' is a bit sahdy again.

Don't get what your saying on the first part, but no, I meant christians specifically as that has been MY experience. I do think it applies to any religious group, but my experience has been with just one.

And no, I'm not racist. I think all races are equally worthless. Religion is not a race.

[Inkvor]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

[Biomech]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

[Lenore]

Ill tell you why I hate emm.

They treat there women like shit.  The ones I have seen and ran into here in the US.  Tend to step in front of you.  Never say anything.  Rude attitudes.  Seems like they think we own them something.
The fact that they come here to the US and try to change things.  Create there own laws and tell people we are offended by your flag or you religion.

[Spendulus]

I'm not a huge fan of any religion, but hating them is not one of them.
I can listen and learn from them but I'm not giving my life for them. I know they are meant to be good but most religious people judge so quickly without even thinking about it.
 

The good things in religion (any religion as far as I've been able to ascertain) are shared by all philosophies. Be decent to your neighbors, don't steal, don't murder, things of that nature.

Unfortunately, they add a lot of shit on top of that, and with a god as backing, believers will ignore the contradictions, embrace the things that destroy the good, and generally muck things up. At the root of all organized religions is the will to power.

Having been raised a Christian, I do have a fair amount of hatred for that particular boondoggle. I try not to. I don't hate Christians, but I do distrust them. Because of their religion, and it's customs. Since I am an unbeliever, a great many of them do not see it as immoral to cheat me, where they would never think of such a thing with one of their own.

In spite of that, I still maintain that most religious people (and I count many of many faiths among my friends) are decent people. Usually in spite of their religion, not because of it. It actually frightens me a great deal when I hear religious people claiming that their particular book/prophet/drug trip is all that restrains them from raping and pillaging. If true, then those people are a deficit to the human race REGARDLESS of their faith. Yet they present this as a positive argument. I don't rape and pillage because it's simply wrong.

It's when the phrase "The WORD of GOD" starts coming up that I check to see I've got a firm hand on my wallet.

[awesome31312]

Ill tell you why I hate emm.

You hate Em? He makes such good music though. "Lose yourself in the music"

[Inkvor]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

something like that..i mean the religions are made to get the never ending power and the most beautiful women..
but i guess the plans change as the centuries change ,,,haha

[BADecker]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

something like that..i mean the religions are made to get the never ending power and the most beautiful women..
but i guess the plans change as the centuries change ,,,haha

The Bible based Christian religion already has the power... in God. It is out to give the power to as many others as will come over to Bible based Christianity.

[Biomech]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

something like that..i mean the religions are made to get the never ending power and the most beautiful women..
but i guess the plans change as the centuries change ,,,haha

The Bible based Christian religion already has the power... in God. It is out to give the power to as many others as will come over to Bible based Christianity.

One fairy tale is very like another. If you actually READ your holy book, no interpretations, it's at least as horrific as the Q'uran. In my judgment, having read both, the Q'uran is a bit more internally consistent, but no less horrible. To make either religion palatable to civilized people requires a great deal of cognitive dissonance.

[BADecker]

Religion is not a race.

my bad ,i didnt had  a better word  for that..
religions solely made for POWER and WOMEN ..and currently for money

LOL. Now I get ya.

"First you get the money,

Then you get the power,

Then you get the women"

-Tony Montana

something like that..i mean the religions are made to get the never ending power and the most beautiful women..
but i guess the plans change as the centuries change ,,,haha

The Bible based Christian religion already has the power... in God. It is out to give the power to as many others as will come over to Bible based Christianity.

One fairy tale is very like another. If you actually READ your holy book, no interpretations, it's at least as horrific as the Q'uran. In my judgment, having read both, the Q'uran is a bit more internally consistent, but no less horrible. To make either religion palatable to civilized people requires a great deal of cognitive dissonance.

If you dropped formal religion, including Christianity, out of life, what would you get? You would get the same things that you get with the formal religions, except God and guidance. Essentially, there would be a whole lot more corruption, a whole lot more warring, a whole lot more "badness" among people.

People who do bad things will use whatever methods they can to do bad things. They will take as much good as they can, and twist it to their own ways, to make it bad. Without the good of the formal religions, things would be a lot worse. If you think that people couldn't or wouldn't design bad things without formal religion, you are extremely naive.

Religion offers guidance towards goodness. Even a formally semi-violent religion like Islam offers guidance towards goodness in this life. Think of how bad it would be without religion.

More important, even if there were no badness along with no formal religion, that is, even if people were not mean and bad, period, they would still get old and die. Old age and death seem to be built into the "genetics" of nature. Why do I mention this? Because old age isn't something that is nice and good. It is wicked and evil. It leads to death, and eternal death which includes agony of soul forever.

At least the Christian religion shows us the way out of death which would not be known without the formal Christian religion. Without the Bible it would almost be absolutely, formally unknown.

The point? Without the Bible, the way out of death to a joyous life in Heaven would be missed by almost all people. In addition, life and living conditions on earth would be worse. Now, at least, there will be some millions or billions in Heaven.