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Well, as a muslim I know that I mean no harm to anyone and I know that I wont hate who hates me and wish it wasn't that way, and love and help who see me as equal, I respect everything you said here and I am not saying it's wrong or right, allah knows and allah will do what is better for the world, and I mean by allah/god, it's united for all religions we all pray to the same god take it or leave it's your point of view, even if the name is different.
And I hope you all good health and wealth, I am out of this discussion it started to abuse me and hurt me to see people who hate islam so much and wish I could change it but that's all about it, I guess there is people who want this bad picture and support it, I have nothing more to say.
take care.
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December 03, 2015, 05:19:42 PM |
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Well, as a muslim I know that I mean no harm to anyone and I know that I wont hate who hates me and wish it wasn't that way, and love and help who see me as equal, I respect everything you said here and I am not saying it's wrong or right, allah knows and allah will do what is better for the world, and I mean by allah/god, it's united for all religions we all pray to the same god take it or leave it's your point of view, even if the name is different.
And I hope you all good health and wealth, I am out of this discussion it started to abuse me and hurt me to see people who hate islam so much and wish I could change it but that's all about it, I guess there is people who want this bad picture and support it, I have nothing more to say.
take care.
I wish you the best also. No, you can't change anything about it and we know that.
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December 03, 2015, 08:02:32 PM |
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It's interesting, when you read the forums it almost seems as though the majority of people have their eyes open and realize there is nothing to hate Islam in it's entirety for and it's heavily manipulated by media. But when I go out in the real world no one has a clue what the hell is going on and they go right along with it where I am from.... it's saddening.
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December 03, 2015, 08:05:36 PM |
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It's interesting, when you read the forums it almost seems as though the majority of people have their eyes open and realize there is nothing to hate Islam in it's entirety for and it's heavily manipulated by media. But when I go out in the real world no one has a clue what the hell is going on and they go right along with it where I am from.... it's saddening.
"they go right along with it" What do they go right along with?
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December 03, 2015, 10:08:35 PM |
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The "media" can be your religious books... Stop blaming others for your own shit or go around with conspiracy theories! Yes, the media is manipulated, but mostly on your favor, most westerns have no clue what's going on on Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and so on, they're just shown "the terrorist show" followed by "they are not real muslims" crap.
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December 03, 2015, 10:43:40 PM |
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The "media" can be your religious books... Stop blaming others for your own shit or go around with conspiracy theories! Yes, the media is manipulated, but mostly on your favor, most westerns have no clue what's going on on Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and so on, they're just shown "the terrorist show" followed by "they are not real muslims" crap.
Okay, so where does one find the True Information?
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December 03, 2015, 10:50:12 PM |
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The best way is to go there by yourself... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Other than that, learn Arabic and read their local news, watch their channels. I won't say it's out-of-this-world or a terror, but a bit "outdated" with religion too much at the center of society. A bit like Catholic Europe up to mid XX Century. From our media, all you'll get is the "terrorist shows" in an overwhelming hypocrite fashion, like 2000 Nigerians are killed and no line about it, 120 French and you get news 24/7 for over a week. But not by "real muslims" (never forget it)... and comes clear there are no "real muslims", maybe muslims are just a myth by now...
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December 03, 2015, 11:17:13 PM |
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The best way is to go there by yourself... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Other than that, learn Arabic and read their local news, watch their channels. I won't say it's out-of-this-world or a terror, but a bit "outdated" with religion too much at the center of society. A bit like Catholic Europe up to mid XX Century. From our media, all you'll get is the "terrorist shows" in an overwhelming hypocrite fashion, like 2000 Nigerians are killed and no line about it, 120 French and you get news 24/7 for over a week. But not by "real muslims" (never forget it)... and comes clear there are no "real muslims", maybe muslims are just a myth by now... I just do Google translate of the Arabic news sources. It's always good for a laugh to see the difference between their own "English version" and the Google translate of the Arabic. English version - Nice people's puppy dog rescued by friendly neighbor Arabic translated to english - "Eternal War Against Evil Jews Makes Progress." (I'm exaggerating a tiny bit. But really, you can't make this stuff up...) Agree with the similarities between Western cultural maybe 1930-1959 and current day Muslim culture.
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December 03, 2015, 11:54:18 PM |
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Indeed, however is somewhat strange if you look at such time! If I take my ex-wife for example, she is Indonesian, her parents the mother was Muslim and father Catholic, so her mother became Catholic and there wasn't much fuzz about it. At my World side, I don't know any mixed-with-Islam couple of their age, to the best Catholic-Protestant, despite we're not that far from Morocco. So it means by mid-20th Indonesia was way more tolerant than here, nowadays things looks the other way around. Maybe it's a Yin-Yang thing and one has to darken when the other enlightens to keep the balance...
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December 04, 2015, 12:18:46 AM |
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It's interesting, when you read the forums it almost seems as though the majority of people have their eyes open and realize there is nothing to hate Islam in it's entirety for and it's heavily manipulated by media. But when I go out in the real world no one has a clue what the hell is going on and they go right along with it where I am from.... it's saddening.
Open eyes to what exactly? I try to not judge and I usually don't generalize. Not every Muslim is alike, but I've seen some pretty wicked individuals out there. The scenes from Europe are just adding more fire to the fuel and are not positive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9yDf7uIDQo
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December 04, 2015, 05:34:59 AM |
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The best way is to go there by yourself... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Other than that, learn Arabic and read their local news, watch their channels. I won't say it's out-of-this-world or a terror, but a bit "outdated" with religion too much at the center of society. A bit like Catholic Europe up to mid XX Century. From our media, all you'll get is the "terrorist shows" in an overwhelming hypocrite fashion, like 2000 Nigerians are killed and no line about it, 120 French and you get news 24/7 for over a week. But not by "real muslims" (never forget it)... and comes clear there are no "real muslims", maybe muslims are just a myth by now... I just do Google translate of the Arabic news sources. It's always good for a laugh to see the difference between their own "English version" and the Google translate of the Arabic. English version - Nice people's puppy dog rescued by friendly neighbor Arabic translated to english - "Eternal War Against Evil Jews Makes Progress." (I'm exaggerating a tiny bit. But really, you can't make this stuff up...) Agree with the similarities between Western cultural maybe 1930-1959 and current day Muslim culture. LOL! You can be sooooo good at times. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 04, 2015, 08:30:16 AM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You still didnt explained the reason behind the unknown hate -:\ The "media" can be your religious books... Stop blaming others for your own shit or go around with conspiracy theories! Yes, the media is manipulated, but mostly on your favor, most westerns have no clue what's going on on Iran, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and so on, they're just shown "the terrorist show" followed by "they are not real muslims" crap.
Okay, so where does one find the True Information? you cant and if you manage to then dont think you are going to see your family again. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's all the game of VIP's ,it works how they want it to.
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December 04, 2015, 08:41:47 AM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You still didnt explained the reason behind the unknown hate -:\ If there is some hate that is unknown, how can anybody explain the reason behind it? You have to know about it before you can start to explain it. If you don't know about it, you are just guessing that it exists. Hate Islam, not Muslims. Hate Islam because it is destroying people all over the place... especially Muslims. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 04, 2015, 10:05:17 AM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here.
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December 04, 2015, 10:33:49 AM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here. If a Christian walks down the road, and you follow the Christian as you walk, does that make you a Christian? If you follow Islam, that does not make you Islam. It makes you a Muslim. Kill Islam, not the Muslim, except if he is killing you first. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 04, 2015, 11:17:34 AM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here. If a Christian walks down the road, and you follow the Christian as you walk, does that make you a Christian? If you follow Islam, that does not make you Islam. It makes you a Muslim. Kill Islam, not the Muslim, except if he is killing you first. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) if i follow somebody down the road what i think is i am following somebody . not his mentality ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) killing islam means killing the religion.is that what u are trying to tell
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December 04, 2015, 02:27:05 PM |
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Because people is just stupid hating islam is not a good thing. You need to hate the people who do bad things not the islam.
They are a lot of islam that they are nice people.
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December 04, 2015, 03:01:19 PM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here. If a Christian walks down the road, and you follow the Christian as you walk, does that make you a Christian? If you follow Islam, that does not make you Islam. It makes you a Muslim. Kill Islam, not the Muslim, except if he is killing you first. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) if i follow somebody down the road what i think is i am following somebody . not his mentality ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) killing islam means killing the religion.is that what u are trying to tell Now you are getting it. Save the Muslim. Convert him back to a living human being by killing the religion, Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here. It's a whole bunch of double talk, doubleplusungood, and politically correct shit being fed to you as steak.
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December 04, 2015, 10:54:28 PM |
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Hate Islam, not Muslims. But if Muslims become Islam, take them down along with Islam. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) good ways to sensationalize your bullshit decker, but i dont see a point to hate anyone other than you dont like them and that all your followers should hate all those whom you hate. dosent matters if they have ever dealt with them personally, but your logic doesn't finds it important ,isin't it ? Rock in the road. Never hate a Muslim. Most Muslims aren't Islam - they only think that they are Islamic. Hate Islam; take it down. If a Muslim forces himself in the way by becoming Islamic, take him down. But don't hate him. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If violnece is your soal reason for the hate then shouldn't you be hating all the wild animals ? it is really childish to hate anyone when you dont know why you hate them . This is true, at least somewhat. Don't hate Muslims. Hate Islam. Generally Muslims aren't Islam. Islam is the teaching written in the Quran and Hadiths. Few Muslims (percentagewise) really know what it says in the Islamic writings. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i cant understand what this means. the people who follow islam are known as muslims. if not for islam there wont be muslims ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , so what are u trying to tell here. It's a whole bunch of double talk, doubleplusungood, and politically correct shit being fed to you as steak. Do you really want us to hate the people rather than the religion? Or do you think that it is impossible to hate the religion without hating the people? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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