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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2436 blocks  (Read 5350633 times)
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March 06, 2016, 10:05:05 PM
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Oh and I added flybit to the valid competition block list as usual here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg8895607#msg8895607

Awseome getting a block with an ongoing red line of 4.7THs - but ended up right in the middle of the valid competition block list Smiley

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March 06, 2016, 10:27:46 PM
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Anyone else still having problems with the difficulty on the pool?

Sometimes, even with a set difficulty, it doesn't want to work.

Yes my some of my miners appear to been affected by the restarts and diff set high and then the miners shares drop, although my block % seems ok diff seems not right and high, Kano not sure if you can check when you have a moment, worker1 seems to always be affected and now looks like workers 2, 4 and 5 now too, username is Ares on website, can PM me your findings, thanks.

EDIT: 11:14 - Kano, I have manually set diff for worker3 & worker4 but seems to have had no effect.
OK, I've gone through the logs with this.

But firstly, the 2 most relevant points:

1) A higher diff with fewer shares - is the same as a lower diff with more shares.
The ONLY difference is variance, and at the miner level that variance is minor at worst/best.

2) You can't set your diff below what the pool decides it should be.
As it says on the Management page:
"* A value of 0, less than the pool minimum,
or less than the pool calculated value for you,
will use the pool calculated value"
However, to add to that explanation, Yes you can set it on the web site, but the pool wont change it below the pool calculated value.

So, to explain how it works as it is actually working correctly, here's the details (for worker2)

Now, I see you doing a diff change in the web 3 times:
Once to change worker3, once to change worker2, then finally to set them both back to 0 a couple of hours later.

I went through worker2's share log in detail and at the time you changed it, you put it below the pool calculated value, so yep it didn't change.

The pool value was 4622.0, you changed it to 3613, so it had no effect.
The pool aims for 18SPM (18 shares per minute)

Here's the numbers for the hour of "2016-Mar-6 12:00-12:59 UTC" which was after you set them during 11:00-11:59 and before you set them back to 0 during 13:00-13:59 - yeah I can work out the exact times but it doesn't matter Smiley

At diff 4622.0, worker2 submitted 901 shares - which happens to be 15 SPM.
All the shares were 4622.0 diff, so 901 shares at 4622.0 diff for 1 hour = 901 * 4622.0 * 2^32 / 3600 = 4.97TH/s

Now for 5THs (slight rounding) to get 18 SPM - that would come up with a diff of 5 * 10^12 * 60 / 18 * 2^32 = 3880 Diff
4622/3880 = 120% so 4662 is within the range to not adjust the difficulty.

Thank-you Kano for the information.
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March 06, 2016, 10:49:12 PM
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That brings me to my next point.  The bitcoin classic or bitcoin core.  The hard fork from 1 MB to 2 MB or you have another camp that wants to see it go to 8 MB.  I have not read enough on the subject, to give an educated opinion but I am hoping that Kano and CK and jump in here and tell me their thoughts. 

Try this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13566071;topicseen#msg13566071
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March 06, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
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Block by cryptichermit with 190THs, his 4th on kano!  He's kind of in the middle of the high and low CDF for the contest...

EDIT:  This would be the 6th block of the day with about 20 minutes to spare...
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March 06, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
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WOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

Just "Mining" my own business.
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March 06, 2016, 11:51:26 PM
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Block by cryptichermit with 190THs, his 4th on kano!  He's kind of in the middle of the high and low CDF for the contest...

EDIT:  This would be the 6th block of the day with about 20 minutes to spare...
... and he's currently the low CDF leader, but that's his 2nd valid competition block Smiley
List updated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg8895607#msg8895607

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March 07, 2016, 12:00:50 AM
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Block by cryptichermit with 190THs, his 4th on kano!  He's kind of in the middle of the high and low CDF for the contest...

EDIT:  This would be the 6th block of the day with about 20 minutes to spare...
... and he's currently the low CDF leader, but that's his 2nd valid competition block Smiley
List updated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg8895607#msg8895607


Holy Crap...  I'm really starting to think about trying CK-Solo.
4 blocks in under 4 weeks.  Would have quadrupled my payouts with those results.
Well, glad to see all the green blocks racking up.
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March 07, 2016, 12:09:43 AM
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Block by cryptichermit with 190THs, his 4th on kano!  He's kind of in the middle of the high and low CDF for the contest...

EDIT:  This would be the 6th block of the day with about 20 minutes to spare...

Yes a six for Sunday not bad.

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March 07, 2016, 12:11:15 AM
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That brings me to my next point.  The bitcoin classic or bitcoin core.  The hard fork from 1 MB to 2 MB or you have another camp that wants to see it go to 8 MB.  I have not read enough on the subject, to give an educated opinion but I am hoping that Kano and CK and jump in here and tell me their thoughts. 

Try this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13566071;topicseen#msg13566071

Thanks!
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March 07, 2016, 01:11:04 AM
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So for the past few hours my share rate on the worker page has been dropping 10-20TH for no particular reason.  Just now the whole column went to zero.  What's up with that?  I've been at 38-42TH and I'm getting 33-38TH for my shifts...  The Worker page thing seems to pop right back.  Does the shift page reflect actual speed or does it require ramp up like when I'm looking at rewards?
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March 07, 2016, 01:44:56 AM
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So for the past few hours my share rate on the worker page has been dropping 10-20TH for no particular reason.  Just now the whole column went to zero.  What's up with that?  I've been at 38-42TH and I'm getting 33-38TH for my shifts...  The Worker page thing seems to pop right back.  Does the shift page reflect actual speed or does it require ramp up like when I'm looking at rewards?

Don't pay attention to the share rate column, especially when there is a new network block.  Those numbers will go crazy when that happens and the elapsed time column is just a few seconds.  When the elapsed time gets larger then the share rate will stabilize a bit more and becomes a little more useful.  The hash rate column on the workers page is a longer term average is is more aligned with the Avg Hs on the Shifts page and it is affected by dips in your Shift Chart.
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March 07, 2016, 01:59:52 AM
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Thank you. Good info.   It is affecting the HS column also.  I have many MRR rigs running.  It looks like the rigs on US-East are dropping speed sporadically.  Its hard to tell without being able to see the hardware and no owners responding.  It does seem to be just USA-East MRR rigs, maybe the server?  I won't switch from to Kano to test another pool, but I'm sure there would be some chatter here if Kano server was dropping speed.  I never check this shift chart... Can I input individual workers to check or just look at them as a whole?  
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March 07, 2016, 02:04:34 AM
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Thank you. Good info.   It is affecting the HS column also.  I have many MRR rigs running.  It looks like the rigs on US-East are dropping speed sporadically.  Its hard to tell without being able to see the hardware and no owners responding.  It does seem to be just USA-East MRR rigs, maybe the server?  I won't switch from to Kano to test another pool, but I'm sure there would be some chatter here if Kano server was dropping speed.  I never check this shift chart... Can I input individual workers to check or just look at them as a whole?  

No, the shift chart is a total of all of your hash rate...have you used Zachm's CKPool Monitor yet?  It will allow you to see each worker separately.  Good stuff for those on kano pool.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1331875.0

EDIT:  You can also get text and email alerts for each of your kano workers with CKPool Monitor...along with new Block text alerts.  Another great tool for kano users is the Apple iPhone version for CKPool Stats by vh.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344360.0
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March 07, 2016, 02:28:25 AM
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Hi all
New to btc mining with my S7 (mined scrypt coins about a year ago with home built rig using 4 graphic cards but that quickly became a losing proposition). Tried another pool first but after reading on the forums about issues at various other pools, I landed here about 3 weeks ago with my whopping 4.7th. I'm probably gonna have to bail out in a couple weeks and sell my S7 because elec costs in NJ are too high (earning about $8/day and spend about $4/day on electrons so I'm profitable now, but I know that won't last, especially when the halving comes). I sure am having fun though   Cheesy

Anyway, I just wanted say what a great bunch of folks you are (smart and witty and generous, always helping each other out) and what an awesome pool! Ck & Kano are amazing and engaged and honorable. I can't believe other pools mine empty blocks - sooooo irresponsible!

I'm gonna hang in as long as I can with my S7. Hope I can hit a back before I go. Gonna eats lots of chicken
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March 07, 2016, 02:40:54 AM
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*hit a block
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March 07, 2016, 02:43:32 AM
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Hi all
New to btc mining with my S7 (mined scrypt coins about a year ago with home built rig using 4 graphic cards but that quickly became a losing proposition). Tried another pool first but after reading on the forums about issues at various other pools, I landed here about 3 weeks ago with my whopping 4.7th. I'm probably gonna have to bail out in a couple weeks and sell my S7 because elec costs in NJ are too high (earning about $8/day and spend about $4/day on electrons so I'm profitable now, but I know that won't last, especially when the halving comes). I sure am having fun though   Cheesy

Anyway, I just wanted say what a great bunch of folks you are (smart and witty and generous, always helping each other out) and what an awesome pool! Ck & Kano are amazing and engaged and honorable. I can't believe other pools mine empty blocks - sooooo irresponsible!

I'm gonna hang in as long as I can with my S7. Hope I can hit a back before I go. Gonna eats lots of chicken


Yeah NJ power jumps up from 12.7 to 17.7 cents in the summer.


Good luck on hitting a block

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March 07, 2016, 02:44:29 AM
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Thank you. Good info.   It is affecting the HS column also.  I have many MRR rigs running.  It looks like the rigs on US-East are dropping speed sporadically.  Its hard to tell without being able to see the hardware and no owners responding.  It does seem to be just USA-East MRR rigs, maybe the server?  I won't switch from to Kano to test another pool, but I'm sure there would be some chatter here if Kano server was dropping speed.  I never check this shift chart... Can I input individual workers to check or just look at them as a whole?  

No, the shift chart is a total of all of your hash rate...have you used Zachm's CKPool Monitor yet?  It will allow you to see each worker separately.  Good stuff for those on kano pool.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1331875.0

EDIT:  You can also get text and email alerts for each of your kano workers with CKPool Monitor...along with new Block text alerts.  Another great tool for kano users is the Apple iPhone version for CKPool Stats by vh.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344360.0


Awesome. I haven't.  I'll check those out.  Need to monitor more, these 91-98% rentals that don't auto refund are adding up.  Looks like my issue was one owner mostly, 4 of his s7 just went down.  Thanks again.
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March 07, 2016, 03:02:47 AM
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...I'm probably gonna have to bail out in a couple weeks and sell my S7 because elec costs in NJ are too high...

Yeah NJ power jumps up from 12.7 to 17.7 cents in the summer.


Good luck on hitting a block

Thanks. BTW, I'm getting about 6kw of solar panels installed. Something I wanted to do even before I fired up the S7 because I'm gonna save about $600 per year on my "normal" elec bill (includes finance cost and SREC sales). Even with that solar array, as soon as block reward halves, my profits still go down the tubes. I'm gonna hang onto my power supply though, because if a newer, more efficient ASIC miner becomes available I would like to jump back in.
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March 07, 2016, 03:27:33 AM
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Block by SAN1X with 41THs!  Way to go!  That would be his first on kano and gets his name on the Acclaim Board!
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March 07, 2016, 03:28:07 AM
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KARMA is a beautiful thing.   Hitting blocks non stop ever single I sent 50TH to CAPTNBL......  WOOT!!!!

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