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[AerialGopher]

Thanks Kano,  I was reading up on his pool, and It was so confusing, I gave up. I always thought there was something that didn't sit right, and there is that element of unknown that will drive people away.

At least when I came looking at your pool, the explanations made sense, I just had a hard time comprehending it, but I might be slow too.  I guess it came down to the words that were used.  I just started picturing it as a moving window in time ( 5nd being the bitcoin network difficulty x5 is the width of the 'time window' ) and what ever percentage of shares I contributed in there is what i get rewarded.

On that note, I like the line that shows the average hash rate for the entire graph of the Workers Shifts graph,  is there a way you can add and option to show the average has rate for just the 5nd segment with a blue line, and a check box to show or hide it?   This will probably help people understand what is going on in the ramp up and down time frame of that 5nd.  Not so much if their hash rate is constant and is always in the same spot.  It will also help if the user ads or removes has power to see the average in the 5nd to better see how it will affect their reward.
Just an idea.

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[kano]

Thanks Kano,  I was reading up on his pool, and It was so confusing, I gave up. I always thought there was something that didn't sit right, and there is that element of unknown that will drive people away.

At least when I came looking at your pool, the explanations made sense, I just had a hard time comprehending it, but I might be slow too.  I guess it came down to the words that were used.  I just started picturing it as a moving window in time ( 5nd being the bitcoin network difficulty x5 is the width of the 'time window' ) and what ever percentage of shares I contributed in there is what i get rewarded.

On that note, I like the line that shows the average hash rate for the entire graph of the Workers Shifts graph,  is there a way you can add and option to show the average has rate for just the 5nd segment with a blue line, and a check box to show or hide it?   This will probably help people understand what is going on in the ramp up and down time frame of that 5nd.  Not so much if their hash rate is constant and is always in the same spot.  It will also help if the user ads or removes has power to see the average in the 5nd to better see how it will affect their reward.
Just an idea.

Yes that change is possible though it's been way down on the todo list for a long time
Remind me again when I finally get this "blockchain transaction record" change onto the pool

[Megaquake]

Noah Novak, a supposed time traveler who claims to be from the year 2030, says Bitcoin is still the top currency followed by LTC and ETH LMAO!!

Says mining is bigger than ever with allot in transaction fees

[Sphere360]

AerialGopher

Yes, it's a residential rate! When I e-mailed our electric company, I was shocked too. Honestly, the commercial rate isn't that terrible either. I have an outbuilding, thinking about running a new service down there in the spring time. It just depends where this goes. It's a hobby, but I enjoy the extra money. The coal burning power plants of Ohio provide cheap power!

Happy Mining! Where is that block?

[Megaquake]

How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

[AerialGopher]

How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

I saw that too...  If we could only get 7 blocks a day!  I would ....  retire...

Edit:

Did some math  115.8414 BTC awarded
12.5x7 = 87.5
115.8414-87.5 = 28.3414
28.3414 X 14500 US = 410950.30  THEY STOLE FROM THIER MINERS!  In  37 minutes!  Pricks!

[kano]

How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

I saw that too...  If we could only get 7 blocks a day!  I would ....  retire...

Our record is 11 in a day

[Megaquake]

How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

I saw that too...  If we could only get 7 blocks a day!  I would ....  retire...

Our record is 11 in a day

Yes I  remember getting 6-8 blocks per day here 2016

[AerialGopher]

Kano, do you know python scripting?  :-)

I'm working on a raspberry pi to do various things with my cooling of the s9's. Like monitor inlet air temp from outside, and mix with warmer air either re-circulated or from within the building, by the use of a servo motor to adjust the position of a flap, to maintain a constant inlet temp.  I found if you put in way too cold of air the antminers actually use more power.

The system will monitor each outlet air temp of the antminers with DS1820B sensors, 1 wire technology, and will adjust the external fan system to either go faster or slower in increments.  The system will also be used in the winter to heat the bulding they are in, by diverting the hot exhaust air to the inside, but then move a servo to close the door to put air outside.  Idealy, just to make it fun for programing, to actually calculate how often the "heat the building" is used and actually position the servo motor accordingly so that the heat loss is replaced as its being lost.  Fancy algorithm here required :-)

Would also like it to monitor humidity, and possible water entry into inlet, by rain etc, so that there can be an alert sent, or even divert the intake to the interior of the building if there sense a problem.

I am sure, as I start doing this I can come up with more neat ideas...

So yeah, I was just wondering, are you free this weekend? :-)

p.s I LITERALLY have no experience programming.  thought I would throw that in there now that I got your interest! haha.  Took my 5 hours just to get some script i copied off the internet to read the temp on 1 sensor ( that was the easy part) then to send the email alert if it got too hot.  Off to a good start!  I can enable SSH access to the pi3 if you want to start on it tonight? haha :-)

We can sell these things!

[qrnode]

 I found if you put in way too cold of air the antminers actually use more power.

At what cold temp are you seeing amperage increase? Have you found what input temp is the most power efficient?

[AerialGopher]

At ambient 21.0 Deg the 14TH used about 1520 watts ( with meter plugged inline )  Moved the 14TH to garage where ambient was 4.7 Deg, power use went up to 1585 Watts ( All on 120 Volt )  I then tested this on 240 volt in the garage, was about 1565 watt.
Chip temps were at about 56-62 when was in the garage.  In the house was 68-73.

All I did was cover the inlet for a bit until the chip temp climbed up to 66-67 or so and then literally in a flash the power dropped to 1420 Watts.  It happened so fast I was thinking I was reading it wrong.  I re did the same thing 2 more times and exact same thing happened.  The big drop in usage once the chip temps got up to around 67.  Intrigued, I tried it also on 120 Volt, and the same big change happened.

The first time this happened the antminer was running for about 10 minutes, so it would of had time to warm up, bu the chip temp was still low.  My goal was to keep them as cool as possible, so I was always refreshing the page to watch the temp.  Oddly enough once the intentional slowing of air, and forced increase in chip temp, they did not go back down to the 56-62, but stayed somewhere in the middle like around 62-64  and this stayed like that until the inside of the building heated up and the chip temps went up a bit, but that's was hours later, with only the 1 S9 running at the time.

So I guess technically it still had the low inlet temp, but something was causing it to use a lot more power until the forced warm up of the chips.  SO that is why my project I posted was thought of, a way to control the inlet temp...  and it is very ambitious for a guy who doesn't know anything about programming.

Note:  The Watt usage in the garage climbed slowly as the inside temp got warmer, it ended up being about 1460 Watt when the garage was at 13 deg.  So they do use more power when inlet is warmer, but too cold isnt good either.  So those guy s that take ice cold outside winter air and cool their s9, may be costing them more, and cuasing more damage.

My theory is that the chips themselves are cold, they dont work as quick, and require more energy.  The TH/s rate was very close to the same though.

[AerialGopher]

We are doing good with our 30+ish PH

Take a look at these guys who just found a block.  Same pool size, but so few blocks all year.. 1 or 2 a month!
https://btc.com/stats/pool/Eobot

This is how you know Kano is doing a good job as the operator.....  but what is his secret? :-)

[kano]

Kano, do you know python scripting?  :-)
...

I consider Python one of the worst languages ever designed.
What retard had the idea that invisible characters would decide code execution?
Mess up spaces and tabs and you get a nightmare

[qrnode]

All I did was cover the inlet for a bit until the chip temp climbed up to 66-67 or so and then literally in a flash the power dropped to 1420 Watts.  It happened so fast I was thinking I was reading it wrong.  I re did the same thing 2 more times and exact same thing happened.  The big drop in usage once the chip temps got up to around 67.  Intrigued, I tried it also on 120 Volt, and the same big change happened.

Interesting, thanks.

[Jeremiah1610]

Any info on problems with fan speeds on the s9? Got 3 hooked up today, been running 4.5hours now, and one of them likes to ramp up the fans to 6k rpm even though the temps are fine. Maybe a bad firmware? Also one of them is throwing .266% invalid/stale shares but this is below the pool avg so from what I understand thats pretty normal and will level out as I complete the ramp up period. Thanks for the help

[MattMell]

For the current difficulty period the network is through ~73% of blocks in ~65% target period 

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 151 281 219 479      11.40%    18/01/13 13:37      

For the current difficulty period the network is through ~82% of blocks in ~73% target period 

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 160 024 151 004    11.85%    18/01/13 12:06      

[luxMiner]

the boards on my S9s are running at 90+ degrees... this can't be too good, can it?

[kano]

Any info on problems with fan speeds on the s9? Got 3 hooked up today, been running 4.5hours now, and one of them likes to ramp up the fans to 6k rpm even though the temps are fine. Maybe a bad firmware? Also one of them is throwing .266% invalid/stale shares but this is below the pool avg so from what I understand thats pretty normal and will level out as I complete the ramp up period. Thanks for the help

You can sometimes get a high amount when you first connect, so it takes a while for the % to drop down to what it's normally going to be.
You can tell by looking at the counts on the Workers when you click on the "Show Details for Invalids:" checkbox.
There's 2 numbers for each column: Total Diff/Number of shares

The Number of shares will probably not be going up  - or only going up very rarely vs how many you got when you first connected.
It actually has no expected effect on your Accepted Diff since e.g. if you send 100 shares at 2000 diff but are supposed to send them at 4000 diff, you still get the same result: instead of 100x2000 accepted you'll expect to get 50x4000 accepted.

It's caused by a flaw in the design of stratum.
Stratum sends Work separate to the Difficulty message, and when you first connect, the miner can send a lot of incorrect diff shares.
I argued this with slush when he designed it but it wasn't fixed properly coz it was too much effort to change his pool code ... you can see this in the stratum discussion thread.

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How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

I saw that too...  If we could only get 7 blocks a day!  I would ....  retire...

Edit:

Did some math  115.8414 BTC awarded
12.5x7 = 87.5
115.8414-87.5 = 28.3414
28.3414 X 14500 US = 410950.30  THEY STOLE FROM THIER MINERS!  In  37 minutes!  Pricks!

Highway Robbery!!   Your math should help other people decide which pool to mine at   lol

[clgrissom3]

How can one pool get 7 out of 9 blocks in 37 minutes wow

I saw that too...  If we could only get 7 blocks a day!  I would ....  retire...

Our record is 11 in a day

Yea, I remember the 11 block days well.  We had 3 of them, 4/13/2016, 7/23/2016, and 8/5/2016.

Talk about doing the happy block dances!