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December 17, 2014, 12:54:03 AM |
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His Majesty is interested in a deal where stone would directly be distributed to the shareholders, who would pay the costs in proportion.
But if this is not coming, it seems that we will have to try to procure our stone some way, and are interested in hearing the pricing and terms.
In answer to Roopatra, I would favor some limited public offering as I would like the change to buy more shares myself. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) To HM. As the one taking the risk on this arrangement as it stands, I had some interest also in such deal, but after Asenath looked at the books she saw that with the arrangement you propose, a public offering would likely fail. At the production rate and costs of RAQ as it stands, if the capital costs are not considered at all, and only the labor and equipment breakage, the costs assessed to the shareholders would be over 200 per stone. I advised her that I was indeed confidant in her management skills and that if she would undertake the effort, I would back the costs but would want to sell some shares to others as well. Her own operation is close to half of that cost (not counting costs of capital, only labor and lost equipment) lately NLQI is around 115 per stone and possibly headed lower if volume can be increased. BUT...Accomplishing that takes some significant capital investment as well as insight and luck. On the capital, interest or opportunity cost is lost. That capital is sunk and gone and might only be seen again if both the Quarry and the Kingdom thrive and prosper, (which we think it will but not all have such an eagerness for risk). Some are working at making a living and simply need a good investment to make that easier that won't cost them anything more along the way. So that is how we came to the current arrangement. If Asenath is as successful as I think she will be, the quarry will be productive. But to get from here to there... and also to have a chance of selling some shares... someone has to take the downside risk, and to have an IPO we need to let the shareholders have the upside rewards without assessing future costs that they can not control. So Like NLQI, we would want the shareholders to get stones at the lowest price, non-shareholders get the mid-price. If the quarries are productive, these prices are sure to fall, and the quarries will seek to be productive. His Majesties wishes and wisdom are renowned, and after all is said and done, that is why His Majesty is our king. So Now.... I can not speak for Roopatra, and ultimately it is her decisions as she is the owner..... Perhaps a special class of share may be issued to accomplish precisely what it is that His Majesty is seeking. I can see how it can be done, but I suspect it would be attractive to only a select few who can absorb the higher risks and potentially higher rewards. The special class of share would provide direct delivery and payment daily of costs of extraction, but would be expected to be priced higher because it not only deprives the quarry of any potential winfall rewards from its efforts, if it were priced the same, there would be no funds or incentive to expand quarry operations. To me it seems a simple arrangement, but I can see how it could look complex to those less accustomed to such things. HM is in a special circumstance and may see these as an attractive option, and frankly I agree that it is just so, albeit on a longer investment horizon. But... there is only one king after all. Would any others like that sort of arrangement? Would any like something more like the NLQI model? It could be an opportunity to ride along on a turnaround of a struggling operation and reap the benefits of that. The more quarries we can bring to profitable production, the quicker our city can be built. I am interested in purchasing shares, probably more so in line with the NLQI model, but would consider seriously the model proposed by HM. Can both options be made publicly available?
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December 17, 2014, 02:01:19 AM Last edit: December 17, 2014, 02:28:25 AM by luigi1111 |
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Lord Luigi has begun making markets for Lucky Lion corporation stock (currently has 26,800% in services pool).
He estimates assets as follows: 8q choice land in 1-C-F7 = 800m 4q choice land in 1-E-E25 = 400m Lucky Lion Building on F7 = 800m Lucky Lion Culture Tower on E25 = 350m 150 shares stock in the Luigi/Jacket Quarry = 150m Miscellaneous: ~90m moneritos cash, 200g = 110m
Total = 2,600,000,000+ moneritos
Lord Luigi currently owns 2,000 shares in the Lucky Lion. He is offering the first 100 shares for sale at 1.3m each, or just under face value of the above items!
Edit: the first 100 shares are gone! Stay tuned.
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December 17, 2014, 02:21:14 AM |
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Lord Luigi has begun making markets for Lucky Lion corporation stock (currently has 26,800% in services pool).
He estimates assets as follows: 8q choice land in 1-C-F7 = 800m 4q choice land in 1-E-E25 = 400m Lucky Lion Building on F7 = 800m Lucky Lion Culture Tower on E25 = 350m 150 shares stock in the Luigi/Jacket Quarry = 150m Miscellaneous: ~90m moneritos cash, 200g = 110m
Total = 2,600,000,000+ moneritos
Lord Luigi currently owns 2,000 shares in the Lucky Lion. He is offering the first 100 shares for sale at 1.3m each, or just under face value of the above items!
Dividend policy? Market making? Future plans? (We are very pleased that this corporation is becoming public, and welcome the "competition" with Grand Hotel and other great corporations.)
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December 17, 2014, 02:28:03 AM |
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Lord Luigi has begun making markets for Lucky Lion corporation stock (currently has 26,800% in services pool).
He estimates assets as follows: 8q choice land in 1-C-F7 = 800m 4q choice land in 1-E-E25 = 400m Lucky Lion Building on F7 = 800m Lucky Lion Culture Tower on E25 = 350m 150 shares stock in the Luigi/Jacket Quarry = 150m Miscellaneous: ~90m moneritos cash, 200g = 110m
Total = 2,600,000,000+ moneritos
Lord Luigi currently owns 2,000 shares in the Lucky Lion. He is offering the first 100 shares for sale at 1.3m each, or just under face value of the above items!
Dividend policy? Market making? Future plans? (We are very pleased that this corporation is becoming public, and welcome the "competition" with Grand Hotel and other great corporations.) I will likely confer with any shareholders what they would prefer for dividends, if any. I am making markets in the corp tab. Little is planned at the moment; however, that is something we may need to have a shareholder meeting about.
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December 17, 2014, 06:14:49 AM |
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December 17, 2014, 07:54:08 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCXPPKJA.png&t=665&c=hPBHPLYaFvBFJg) Painting of Church Youth Center from East side, with hanging gardens on the roof. Lord Saddam ponders this painting and marvels at its greatness. Having spent several hours himself designing his castle in 2D, the added dimension pleases Saddam very much. It is indeed a marvel! The skill of the architect is great and wondrous. Might it benefit from doors leading to the front two gardens or are these not depicted? The Top floor seems to have a door that leads to a drop of one storey. Though it may simply be an artifact of the view.
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December 17, 2014, 11:44:58 AM Last edit: December 17, 2014, 12:23:55 PM by rpietila |
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The Earl of Soul Embassy Tower opened in 1-C-F10After a generational hiatus in building to the Old Town, The Marquess of Forte Spagnolo has relinguished his former investment property to development and the person formerly knows as Dr. Choo has taken a keen interest on it. The Embassy Tower is an important building due to its opening a new era for foreign professional envoys and their permanent offices. The aim is not to diminish the Noble Palace's market share but to grow a new one. The town records this building makes (maybe others also): - Tallest building (a full 30 m, in accordance with the new rules and town council permission) - 6 floors of 3-5 m height, but counts only as 4 floors in taxation, due to the highest being 50 sqm, next-highest 102 sqm and the lower ones 200+ sqm. - Highest efficiency rating e = 2.54. - Most expensive building upon construction (about 1.14 billion at stone "ask") - Highest amount of Extras spent (54 million for metal supporting beams in 6x6 low arch rooms) - First 1:1 window ratio room, with 36 units of windows in a 36 sqm room. The room is part of the Earl of Soul Reception Suite, which is at elevation 20; 5 m high, and has breathtaking views (no other building save the Tsurugajo Art Gallery and the Donjon has a room this high) to all over the city and beyond, from its rooms and the adjoining 160 sqm roof garden. - Greatest number of Opulent doors (155) and staircases (68). Dr. Choo is created Earl of Soul. "We feel the utmost relief and pleasure in being able to elevate our long-term co-worker to the ranks of landed Nobility. Earl Paul of Soul holds the record of longest time without promotion (110 years). He is also the oldest non-magus citizen in the town (167 years). Since the building is large and there's still space (28 rooms of 16-36 sqm in total), everyone wanting to have a secure and grand office in the best place in town, near the best eating establishments, contact the principal or the facility manager! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) All the magnificent buildings, and their floorplans (for the public part) and facades, will be available soon in the Version 3, casually referred to as "online version", of which an interactive demo already exists and we have seen it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 17, 2014, 01:10:27 PM |
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The Earl of Soul Embassy Tower opened in 1-C-F10
It is with inspiring awe that the neighborhood has observed this lot rise from the dust to the skies. In honor of the magnificence of this structure, its exquisite design, the wondrous deployment of many of our finest stones, and the grand purpose of this edifice to bring within our city walls the dignitaries of foreign commerce, the Prince Joseph of New Liberty commissions the stone cutters to craft a pair of statues that may be placed in good view of its entrance to greet our foreign guests. That they may know our respect and feel our dignity. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGsEpGzd.jpg&t=665&c=XL5pKQQIqteQsA) We will gild these each with 100 of our gold in honor of the many record breaking achievements of this structure, and to welcome our new neighbors as a housewarming gift.
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December 17, 2014, 01:20:10 PM |
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The Earl of Soul Embassy Tower opened in 1-C-F10
It is with inspiring awe that the neighborhood has observed this lot rise from the dust to the skies. In honor of the magnificence of this structure, its exquisite design, the wondrous deployment of many of our finest stones, and the grand purpose of this edifice to bring within our city walls the dignitaries of foreign commerce, the Prince Joseph of New Liberty commissions the stone cutters to craft a pair of statues that may be placed in good view of its entrance to greet our foreign guests. That they may know our respect and feel our dignity. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGsEpGzd.jpg&t=665&c=XL5pKQQIqteQsA) We will gild these each with 100 of our gold in honor of the many record breaking achievements of this structure, and to welcome our new neighbors as a housewarming gift. On behalf of the Earl, we extend our greatest gratitude to the Prince. The suitable location for these magnificent statues would be our first-floor north-facing balcony above the main entrance (the railing, one on each end, facing the street, the Central Square, and the Royal Palace). This is the balcony that has access doors from 2 of the most exquisite and prestigious 36 sqm embassy halls, and from where the foreign envoys and their interpreters may give speeches to the crowds gathered in the square in front of the Grand Hotel.
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December 17, 2014, 01:24:45 PM |
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Where can we play this?
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December 17, 2014, 01:38:57 PM |
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Where can we play this?
Right now - here and on the IRC channel - ##crypto-kingdom Soon there will be an online version of the game, but it is currently played with a database and IRC/PMs. Check out the first post and links on that page and this thread for more information. Once you have a rough idea - Join the IRC channel and ask any questions. The IRC channel is the best way to get specific questions answered
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December 17, 2014, 02:03:50 PM |
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The Town is Prospering
This year marks the 128th anniversary of the Town of CryptoTown, and also the official date for the town to become self-sufficient from its debts incurred during the first phase of online version development.
Although we are sure that future commitments will burden the town economy, we are equally sure that the robust economy is able to support them.
In anticipation of the great influx of new visitors and players in the following decades, the Town has opened the rest of its land for sale in the 1-NE chapelry. The price has been set rather high to ensure that only the most needing of the nobles are able to buy it, and build their town palaces there. There is some other land for sale in the Old Town also, and the prices are set by the owners, and listed in the CK City Map and Building Registry /LAND REGISTRY tab.
We do not want to discourage the quarry owners, just to remind that the town is at present eager to exercise its option to redeem the lands of any closing quarry for the 150 million as stipulated in the contract. It is becoming public knowledge among the multitude of the NPC office staff (plus of course the workers who see it in their own eyes day after day) that only one quarry has even "hit the stone" yet, but the rumors from those who claim to be able to decipher the secret code say that some of the others are just about to.
All quarries got 1 question (saddam: 2) yesterday, we are able to answer the unused ones starting from 8pm GMT today.
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December 17, 2014, 02:11:01 PM |
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Hello my gracious friends. I come hoping that fortune favours you on this fine day, and also bearing news of our online playable version. Rapid progress is being made, and I would like to briefly show off the main city screen - You will note the quadrat highlighted in the second image - lots are highlighted as you mouse over them, allowing you to select a lot and get information on it (this is currently at a quadrat level at the moment). More details to come, and as soon as we have a few more pieces in place we'll open it up as a testbed for everyone to mess around and break it before we make the permanent switch over to it.
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December 17, 2014, 03:25:33 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCXPPKJA.png&t=665&c=hPBHPLYaFvBFJg) Painting of Church Youth Center from East side, with hanging gardens on the roof. Lord Saddam ponders this painting and marvels at its greatness. Having spent several hours himself designing his castle in 2D, the added dimension pleases Saddam very much. It is indeed a marvel! The skill of the architect is great and wondrous. Might it benefit from doors leading to the front two gardens or are these not depicted? The Top floor seems to have a door that leads to a drop of one storey. Though it may simply be an artifact of the view. There is a balcony on upper floor that slipped painter's eye. 1 m wide, that connect left roof garden with right one.
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December 17, 2014, 04:21:09 PM Last edit: December 17, 2014, 04:33:08 PM by Roopatra |
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After careful consideration (and much eagerness from potential share holders) I have decided to open the newly renamed Roopatra Asenath Quarry Corporation to public shareholders.
After some negotiations we have secured both the top management team and a solid financial backing for the quarry. I have great confidence in the capability of the new team. As the initial investor in this quarry I will continue to stay involved, but the actual operations will be handled by Asenath of New Liberty, with Prince Joseph providing any financial backing and cover any cost overruns that may be necessary to get the operations on track.
With the long term prospects of this operation thus secured, I have been persuaded by you good people of the Crypto Kingdom to let everyone take part in what now may be the hottest new investment. Due to all the interest expressed privately among those that got word this was happening, and in order to give more than just the few people that are online at the time of the IPO a chance to participate, the RAQ will use His Majesties model for gold auctions to issue the initial shares.
The management team is only willing to let go of 160 shares at this time of the IPO, but expects to conduct open market operations afterwards.
===================== The auction for RAQ shares is now on
The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "100 @ 2.25".
The reserve price is 1.80 and no more than 2 decimals, so the bidding starts at 1.81. NLQI shares with this management team are currently selling for more than 2x this price.
Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the highest non-winning bid).
The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows: - if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate - negative trust rating, cannot participate
Auction of the RAQ shares closes after 48 hours, 4.30pm GMT server time, on the 19th December 2014. Or fifteen (15) minutes after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last fifteen minutes, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in one minute since the previous one). ==========================
About 2 days left until the auction ends.
Current situation:
45 @ 2.00 DjJacket
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Reserve price @ 1.8 (115 left at this price)
If the auction would end now, the price would be 1.8 XMR / RAQ share
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December 17, 2014, 04:24:18 PM |
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Hello my gracious friends. I come hoping that fortune favours you on this fine day, and also bearing news of our online playable version. Rapid progress is being made, and I would like to briefly show off the main city screen -
More details to come, and as soon as we have a few more pieces in place we'll open it up as a testbed for everyone to mess around and break it before we make the permanent switch over to it.
Exciting! Thanks for the glimpse ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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December 17, 2014, 04:25:49 PM |
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RAQ shares: 20 @ 2.10 for me please. (Lord Paulson, Esq.)
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This space is for lease, apparently.
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December 17, 2014, 04:32:26 PM |
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50 @ 1.80 Earl of Soul
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December 17, 2014, 04:37:38 PM |
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Auction of the RAQ shares closes after 48 hours, 4.30pm GMT server time, on the 19th December 2014. Or fifteen (15) minutes after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last fifteen minutes, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in one minute since the previous one). ==========================
About 2 days left until the auction ends.
Current situation:
20 @ 2.10 Lord PaulsonEsq 45 @ 2.00 DjJacket 50 @ 1.80 Earl of Soul
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Reserve price @ 1.8 (45 left at this price)
If the auction would end now, the price would be 1.8 XMR / RAQ share
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December 17, 2014, 05:52:11 PM |
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Announcements:
The 2nd lot of 100 shares of LL stock is now available. Price is 1.4m moneritos each, minimum 10 share purchase.
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The Luigi/Jacket Quarry corporation also has a new offering for shareholders. Every shareholder of 5 or more shares is eligible to purchase up to 50% of the quarry's current stone holdings per day on a 1st come, first served basis (larger holders get precedence in a tie) for a discounted rate, as follows: 5+ shares: Dealership buy price + 5% (this number may be revised based on Dealership buy/sell spread) 25+ shares: Dealership buy price
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