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December 29, 2014, 01:05:27 PM
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when can i play this game?

Hi!
Its already on! Currently is carried on Google docs while we wait to the first beta in a dedicated website, qhich should happen soon.

Check the first post in the thread for links to the City plans, characters, possesions, corporations, etc. The best way to get started is the New Player Starting Kits, which anyone will be happy to explain on ##Crypto-Kingdom in Freenode.

If you choose to start just choose a male/female, starting age (18+), and in-game name, and let us know here or in IRC. Your entry will be then added into the database.

Its still possible to be amongst the top 100 first players in the game, (we are currently at #72) and also entering in a very profitable era (we are near 1540 and until 1600 all gold owners "stake" stone for free every day, amongst other benefits)

If you start the char, let me know here by PM or on ##Crypto-Kingdom in Freenode to Top8 ; My char, Lord Paulson, will welcome you with a nice gold ring (5 gold inside the game) and will grant you a temporary room in The Village Hotel, in the Old City, while you work yourself the way to owning a home :-)

This offer is open to another three new characters from unique BCT members and will expire on 31th Dec!

This space is for lease, apparently.
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December 29, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
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Bulk stone auction

Since there were no bids and four years of stone production with no building in the game (there may also be less player participation due to holiday vacations), I've decided to postpone the auction for now.

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December 29, 2014, 04:45:47 PM
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Holidays are over!


Well, for me at least  Cheesy

During the period a lot of things have happened, including the about-doubling of the value of our game currency, Monero! (Just now it is suffering a little in the exchange, but I'm quite certain that sub-0.001 levels are gone permanently.)

Since the quarries have produced while the architects have been on a vacation, massive amounts of stone have been produced, and it is a buyer's market now. To sweeten the deal for builders even more, LABOR is now -20%. (Check /Building Registry that LABOR has been about 40% of the costs and stone 40%, the rest being imports.) The laborers and artesans are accepting a lower wage now, because some of them still care about infidel currencies of BTC and USD, and our mighty moneretos now buy so much more of them!!  Grin

In line with the new, easier version of the quarry game, we are moving to the mechanism borrowed from Version 6 - the land in new boroughs (Borough 3 for starters) will be sold in huge 150 quadrat chunks to the quarry companies (or whomever, really). As long as it is unbuilt and unsplit, the owner may speculate on the land, selling it higher in one piece, or start a quarry operation there. The quarry remains a decade-long commitment at least, but once it is finished, the land can be partitioned and built upon/sold. (Land can be left unquarried for any amount of time or built upon, if the prospect for quarrying is deemed not as lucrative as direct development.)

The NPC's already quarried the best sites for us to build our Old Town, and the New City area is being depleted. The new quarries will be progressively less lucrative and also further away, and at some point the moving of stone will also present a cost issue. Currently we have enoght of it everywhere, since the stone generated by gold-staking is stored in the mostly unused Citadel area, and the new city building stone in the quarries, near where it will be used soon. 

The "long-term" (well, a real-month or so..) gains on land have been staggering. In the 1-C, it started by being difficult to sell land at 10-20 mil/q, now there has been a standing bid for 150/q with no takers for 10 years. In the 1-N, land + house was given away for 8 mil less than a century ago, now the area is appraised to 80 mil land only. The 1-W has seen land bought at 14 mil offered at 420 mil, and one bought at 20 mil sold at 500 mil.

The gold price has been experiencing a surge, and a token weekly dividend was given despite low activity during Christmas week. The price has been revised down by 10% now, to take into account the XMR revaluation. HM coinshop continues to buy/sell up to 3,000 CKG at a time.

The Town Council will meet soon with interesting new developments, including a potential Ship subgame, a more-rigorous Restaurant subgame, the auto-adminable Quarry subgame, and the splitting and automatic updates of the Services pool. Regardless if it takes another week to move the character management and chat to the new online game, the current one is becoming more interesting and at the same time easier to administrate Smiley

We are looking forward to unimaginably majestic buildings to be built, utilizing the new stone & the 20% labor discount!

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December 29, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
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Is there any link to the game? Or it hasn`t been launched yet??
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December 29, 2014, 05:04:47 PM
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Is there any link to the game? Or it hasn`t been launched yet??

The OP of this thread contains links to all game resources.

More and more of it will be ported to easier-to-administrate platforms (such as browser-playable world) time and money permitting.

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December 29, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
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I`m looking forward to see this game online.I suppose we can earn crypto-currencies in this game too and withdraw them,right?
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December 29, 2014, 07:06:29 PM
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The Luigi/Jacket Stone Quarry, as of last year, is now producing the cheapest stone in the kingdom! We had many years of only shoveling dirt, but now all that hard work is starting to pay off.
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NLQI closes, and the land is immediately bought by the town and vacated for construction:

Check from the City Map DB, how cheaply we are able to sell this land to the first taker! (prices range from 11 to 30 per quadrat!)

Great bargains to be had.  It is the New City after all...  Shocked (My chars will wait 12 hours before purchasing any)


Soon, according to the Town Council decision:

- Subgames will be modularized to ease their conceptual development, integration, admining and player feel. A typical subgame is about combining some inputs to achieve some outputs, and the skill factor is to obtain the best inputs, or do it cheaper, or combine them more skillfully than others, to produce the most, or the best, or at least to sell at the highest price. Outwardly, this will take many forms of course, and subgames that aim to produce experiences instead of money are also welcome.

- Research will be started as a fundamental game concept. To unlock new subgames in the Kingdom level, or other important things, scientists etc. will work in laboratories etc. to produce research points. The masters of these scientists will allocate the points towards research projects which will eventually grant new techs, Civ-style. So the tech race is (at least mainly) not p-vs-p but collaborative.

- The Window-making tech serves as an example; it takes a great deal of experimentation to learn the production of windows, but once it's done, all the collaborators will be awarded shares of the window-making monopoly Corp, able to earn all the money that currently goes to waste as payments to foreign nations. Other technologies grant other benefits to their discoverers.

- 2-N chapelry and 2 chapelries in the 3rd borough (3-NW and 3-SW) will be auctioned for quarry business. All 3 have different rules:
* 2-N: starts from 150 mil, town has the buyback option similar to all existing quarry sites
* 3-NW: starts from 1,200 mil, direct sale with no strings attached
* 3-SW: starts from 300 mil, direct sale with no other strings than the same extra land tax as the Village (1-SE) has. (It is possible to abandon any land if you don't want to pay tax, so it's a kind of "option" to buy any marginal, taxed land.)

- Quarry and Tavern subgames will be finalized and existing quarries and taverns/restaurants transferred.

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- 2-N chapelry and 2 chapelries in the 3rd borough (3-NW and 3-SW) will be auctioned for quarry business. All 3 have different rules:
* 2-N: starts from 150 mil, town has the buyback option similar to all existing quarry sites
* 3-NW: starts from 1,200 mil, direct sale with no strings attached
* 3-SW: starts from 300 mil, direct sale with no other strings than the same extra land tax as the Village (1-SE) has. (It is possible to abandon any land if you don't want to pay tax, so it's a kind of "option" to buy any marginal, taxed land.)

Situation currently:


2-N - 225 mil The Prince of NL
3-NW - 1200 mil reserve bid (8 m/q)
3-SW - 300 mil reserve bid (2 m/q)

To be able to bid, you should know the new quarry game rules. Well, basically all stays the same except the complexity is reduced. Because both the optimal organization and the secret code are known, the production costs are expected to settle at a quite low level, but since it benefits everybody, it does not necessarily mean better overall productivity.

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December 31, 2014, 03:30:24 AM
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NLQI closes, and the land is immediately bought by the town and vacated for construction:

Check from the City Map DB, how cheaply we are able to sell this land to the first taker! (prices range from 11 to 30 per quadrat!)

Great bargains to be had.  It is the New City after all...   (My chars will wait 12 hours before purchasing any)

Congratulations to my fellow shareholders of NLQI on a successful run!

NLQI offered the best price for stone in the game through its entire operation to its shareholders AND a discount under the market price to the public (non shareholders),
NLQI mined more stone than any other quarry by the time it closed, and returned over a million stone, 300 gold, and almost 200Mm at liquidation.
Those that did the very best were the shareholders that had use for the stone, or upsold it, but everyone came out ahead.

Being ever vigilant for the incredible deals.  Asenath secured the prime lands in the former NLQI quarry that had been chosen by the natives to this land as the best places where they themselves preferred to live, to enjoy offices, and of course to revel after a hard days work in the taverns.

  • It is the only lot in the entire chapelry that has eight (8) street facing 10m sections.  
  • All frontage is on the main streets.
  • The lots are already built!
  • Staffed by experts in serving this population from the disbanded quarry.
  • Secured for a very low price, (primarily because we were first in line and HM could not buy it for 12 hours yet).

Whilst NLQ Inc. is dissolved as per its founding charter at the closing of the quarry.  Asenath has encouraged us to extend the offer to the former shareholders to take part in our good fortune for our swift action and artful negotiation and own a piece of the ongoing operation of this real estate in a new corporation for this "STONETON CONGLOMERATE".   Goodbye NLQI, hello STONETON

Bidding is unrestricted to all players and is available for 700 shares with a special rule.  Former NLQI shareholders have a "Right of First Refusal" and so may "Jump Ahead" of any bidder at an equal value bid in accordance to their shares held, and ahead of all non shareholders.
Other than that, the auction is as normal.
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The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "100 @ 2.25".

The reserve price is priced so that anyone can take part no matter how much wealth they have at only 0.90 each and no more than 2 decimals (so former NLQI shareholders may also bid 0.90 until 700 are bought above this price).  Though we think it will go for much more.

Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one except as provided above, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the highest non-winning bid).

The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows:
- if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate
- negative trust rating, cannot participate

This Auction closes Friday Jan 2nd 6PM, BCT server time, or one hour after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last hour, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in the hour since the previous one.
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December 31, 2014, 07:51:39 AM
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- 2-N chapelry and 2 chapelries in the 3rd borough (3-NW and 3-SW) will be auctioned for quarry business. All 3 have different rules:
* 2-N: starts from 150 mil, town has the buyback option similar to all existing quarry sites
* 3-NW: starts from 1,200 mil, direct sale with no strings attached
* 3-SW: starts from 300 mil, direct sale with no other strings than the same extra land tax as the Village (1-SE) has. (It is possible to abandon any land if you don't want to pay tax, so it's a kind of "option" to buy any marginal, taxed land.)

Situation currently:


2-N - 225 mil The Prince of NL
3-NW - 1200 mil reserve bid (8 m/q)
3-SW - 300 mil reserve bid (2 m/q)

To be able to bid, you should know the new quarry game rules. Well, basically all stays the same except the complexity is reduced. Because both the optimal organization and the secret code are known, the production costs are expected to settle at a quite low level, but since it benefits everybody, it does not necessarily mean better overall productivity.

What is the quarry code for 2-N? I see -NW and -SW shown on the map but not -N
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What is the quarry code for 2-N? I see -NW and -SW shown on the map but not -N

(1)168, told in /QUARRY tab Smiley

Compared to this one, the others look quite bad. But they are randomized with the new formula, meaning that a site like 2-N cannot even exist anymore.

Buying any of the sites now makes sense:
- 3-NW is not that much stone but you get unencumbered land at 8 m/q, price rather unseen for a long time.
- 3-SW is a decent site for quarrying, as well as building, and the tax model makes the entrance cost very low, so good for speculation also. My plan is to develop a wonderful, complete, Boulevard of prime buildings in 3-W and 3-C, driving the price up and making the sleeping/industry suburbs in NW and SW really sought-after.
- 2-N obviously, despite that it is a lease more than a sale, has enormous potential as a quarry site. We ourselves are also qualified to bid, and will do. There are about 19 million stone in easily quarriable depth, making the place worth a billion even at these low prices. The exact bidding will happen when I reveal the exact organization/production details and formulas. Soon(TM). You can't force a thing that is supposed to be clever and fun  Wink

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The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "100 @ 2.25".

The reserve price is priced so that anyone can take part no matter how much wealth they have at only 0.90 each and no more than 2 decimals (so former NLQI shareholders may also bid 0.90 until 700 are bought above this price).  Though we think it will go for much more.

Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one except as provided above, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the highest non-winning bid).

The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows:
- if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate
- negative trust rating, cannot participate

This Auction closes Friday Jan 2nd 6PM, BCT server time, or one hour after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last hour, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in the hour since the previous one.
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100 @ 1.00
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The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "100 @ 2.25".

This Auction closes Friday Jan 2nd 6PM, BCT server time, or one hour after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last hour, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in the hour since the previous one.
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Roopatra bids 20 @ 0.90
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December 31, 2014, 01:58:47 PM
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Sneak Peek on the new NPC management

It's like giving birth, takes time and effort, but once it's ready, it is beautiful  Kiss

All NPC's (domestic servants, army and quarry as current categories) will be systematized under the new management system with interesting features:

- NPC's get a level similar to PC level. With NPC's this is called N1-N9 and is a pay grade.

- N1 is for basic occupations paying 100k/year and existing servants and other staff will be converted automatically.

- N2-N4 are for more skilled workers and pay 150k, 200k and 250k, respectively. Operating subgames often requires a certain amount of skilled workforce, or the output is dependent on the number. These may or may not be available in unlimited quantities, depending on the subgame. Some of them (such as Army Sergeants) can only be promoted, which takes time.

- N5 is the entry level specialist/officer/scientist/manager/chef/etc position. It is possible to recruit directly to this level, but not higher. At this level, the NPC's cost 300k/year, but their performance is often relatively weak. Remember "manager" in the Quarry-1 subgame.

- N6-N9 are for promoted specialists, and pay ranges from 400k to 1 million. Despite the high salary, these specialists deliver more than their worth, and they can only be promoted/generated according to the rules. Retaining these highly skilled specialists in your payroll is a definitive advantage, even during the times of turbulence. Some of the existing servants with up to 90 years of experience will be offered a hefty raise during the transition period, and the master can choose whether to keep them or vacate them to the market with their new grade and existing experience.

- Being a character with much possessions, a big house, and many things going on, will itself require a certain organization (until now this has been vague), with a lack in organizational prowess meaning reduced incomes (cf. Quarry-1). This generates new demand for office buildings and space, fulfilling the natural city development of commerce in the 1-2 lowest floors, offices higher, and residences mostly a bit further afield. These are already encoded to the formulas for the new Service Pool (see City Map/SERV tab).

- The NPC's have in general decided that their 100k/year minimum salary is anyway not enough for living except in quite cramped conditions (the recent years, 40% of 100k/year assigned for living, has been able to rent about 5 sqm from a shared room without amenities). So their new feeling is "fuckit - crowded it'll anyway be, I rather take 3 sqm with 4 m height, good location, good views, etc. than 5 sqm head hitting ceiling and the neighbor's wall in 1 m distance from the north-facing small window". The per-sqm income from nicely designed apartments is going way up in this recalculation.

- Land Registry will be the place to host all this, and it will be numbers-in-cells type, with automatic updates to annual costs etc. Managing will become a breeze, and therefore firing can also be enabled at no cost. (Keeping the promoted ones becomes important so the periodical slashing will undoubtedly happen in N1 and N5 the most, and N2-N4 partially.)

- The two google databases will need to be merged to ensure that the VLOOKUP formulas function efficiently. Backups will be taken daily.


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To be realistic, for once, we expect that the new system can completely take over in 1550, which is also the 100th anniversary of the Service Pool. During its first century of existence, the Service Pool has become the largest pool in the game with over 4 billion in assets, and has distributed over 15 billion to the owners of the services. Well done, all!  Smiley

The building LABOR -20% discount will apply to buildings until 1444 (included). Monero is again heading down and the rationale for the discount is quickly expiring, so take advantage of it while it lasts!

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The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "100 @ 2.25".

This Auction closes Friday Jan 2nd 6PM, BCT server time, or one hour after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last hour, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in the hour since the previous one.
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100 @ 1.00  -  Lord Jacket
 20 @ 0.90  -  Lady Roopatra
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Prince Joseph 580@90

Asset - K1 a built property in 2 SW

TIP of the day for NLQI shareholders.  Bidding here is the final benefit of NLQI shareholding, (because you inherit the option of first refusal).  The last year of operation for these buildings whilst they were in the service of NLQI and income was received... they produced revenue of 10,669,500.  If that rate were to hold, the ROI on this property would be an unprecedented 65.6 days.  Prince Joseph would be happy to take ownership of it all, but Baroness Asenath reminded the Prince of the virtue of "fairness" to the minority shareholders (perhaps a more prized virtue among those not born to nobility).  The Prince was persuaded, and the new corporation formed for that purpose.

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The last year of operation for these buildings whilst they were in the service of NLQI and income was received... they produced revenue of 10,669,500.  If that rate were to hold, the ROI on this property would be an unprecedented 65.6 days.

Also:

- about half of the area of these buildings did not provide any direct revenue at all since they were used by the industry, but can now be converted to other uses at a reasonable cost or rented out for profit
- 4 q of the 14 q land was not built at all, the value of this land only is conservatively 80 million and could be much more due to its location and excellent facing south-east on 2 streets.

Therefore:

Earl Paul of Soul:

50 @ 1.20
50 @ 1.15
50 @ 1.10
50 @ 1.05
50 @ 1.00

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December 31, 2014, 07:21:29 PM
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Public answer to Servants question:


Please do not make any changes to the Servants sheet now. Additions for new businesses in the rows in the end are ok.

The ones eligible for promotion will be chosen by the administration of the game, based on their service length, pay level so far, etc.

You cannot get any Silver and Gold servants any more by recruiting, so better wait now until we are ready with the update!

The ones who get promotion will be very esteemed, very valuable, and possess special skills as a result of 30, 50 or nearly 100 years of service.

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