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Oh yeah? The whole thing stopping this is a license agreement the majority of developers don't even respect as they take the code from open source miners and use it in their private ones anyway? ...
bensam, if "private miner" is not published, than it is not violating open source license. As soon it is published in any way, than source code should be published as well. Nobody is breaking rules here sending closed binaries over private channels. BTW, I'm also for optimized miner with fee, but devs already declared it's too much hassle doing it from scratch. I think you don't understand the license if you think you can profit off someones work as long as it's not 'public'. It still counts, its just not enforceable in anyway unless someone who receives the miner initiates it. When they talk about 'private work' that means you don't share it with anyone, not you don't share it with anyone publicly. Open licensing mainly refers to profiting off other peoples work though. That still happens even if it's not public, developers with private miners who sell them are already violating the open license, but this obviously isn't their area of forte, the only reason it's come up recently is because people are looking to use it as a excuse. As I mentioned already, it's pretty easy to include more people with a fee schedule and this is a non-issue as this sort of stuff happens all the time in the mining community. No one is going to sue anyone else, nothing is going to happen, especially if you include all the main parties that created the work... That's mainly where I think people starting to poopoo on this. If DJM doesn't get any bit of the L2V2 fees, even though he developed most of the work for the initial miner. All of that could easily be programmed in, it's just someones address, or it could divy it up on the receiving end of the payments, which would probably be easiest. Just out of curiosity, what coin worth mining is using pentablake?
Pretty sure there aren't any. People just seeing possible income and not taking into account if they start mining on a low difficulty coin with a lot of power, it'll just crash things.
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I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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October 02, 2015, 11:31:35 PM |
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Pretty sure there aren't any. People just seeing possible income and not taking into account if they start mining on a low difficulty coin with a lot of power, it'll just crash things.
like the sya coin?
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October 03, 2015, 01:07:02 AM |
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Pretty sure there aren't any. People just seeing possible income and not taking into account if they start mining on a low difficulty coin with a lot of power, it'll just crash things.
like the sya coin? sia?
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October 03, 2015, 05:48:31 AM |
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Pretty sure there aren't any. People just seeing possible income and not taking into account if they start mining on a low difficulty coin with a lot of power, it'll just crash things.
like the sya coin? sia? Yah.Mining the shitcoins can be very profitable...
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October 03, 2015, 06:19:18 AM Last edit: October 03, 2015, 06:52:44 AM by zTheWolfz |
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can I get info on cards like 970 980 980ti Hashrate on quark using the new releases
I'm getting 10.4 M/hash on GTX 960
I get 10.650kh/s with r66, 10.550 r69 with my 960 on quark. oc 100mhz
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October 03, 2015, 08:35:57 AM |
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I think you don't understand the license if you think you can profit off someones work as long as it's not 'public'. It still counts, its just not enforceable in anyway unless someone who receives the miner initiates it. When they talk about 'private work' that means you don't share it with anyone, not you don't share it with anyone publicly. Open licensing mainly refers to profiting off other peoples work though. That still happens even if it's not public, developers with private miners who sell them are already violating the open license, but this obviously isn't their area of forte, the only reason it's come up recently is because people are looking to use it as a excuse.
As I mentioned already, it's pretty easy to include more people with a fee schedule and this is a non-issue as this sort of stuff happens all the time in the mining community. No one is going to sue anyone else, nothing is going to happen, especially if you include all the main parties that created the work... That's mainly where I think people starting to poopoo on this. If DJM doesn't get any bit of the L2V2 fees, even though he developed most of the work for the initial miner. All of that could easily be programmed in, it's just someones address, or it could divy it up on the receiving end of the payments, which would probably be easiest.
Before continuing Your accusations, please provide GPL license text that is violated when sending binaries over private channels. You can assume that user is asking and paying developer to make better code for him from open source code. Can You make citation from GPL license that is broken with this?
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October 03, 2015, 10:18:59 AM Last edit: October 03, 2015, 11:29:25 AM by djm34 |
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Oh yeah? The whole thing stopping this is a license agreement the majority of developers don't even respect as they take the code from open source miners and use it in their private ones anyway? ...
bensam, if "private miner" is not published, than it is not violating open source license. As soon it is published in any way, than source code should be published as well. Nobody is breaking rules here sending closed binaries over private channels. BTW, I'm also for optimized miner with fee, but devs already declared it's too much hassle doing it from scratch. I think you don't understand the license if you think you can profit off someones work as long as it's not 'public'. It still counts, its just not enforceable in anyway unless someone who receives the miner initiates it. When they talk about 'private work' that means you don't share it with anyone, not you don't share it with anyone publicly. Open licensing mainly refers to profiting off other peoples work though. That still happens even if it's not public, developers with private miners who sell them are already violating the open license, but this obviously isn't their area of forte, the only reason it's come up recently is because people are looking to use it as a excuse. As I mentioned already, mentionned... ? you repeat it in every single message you post.. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) All of that could easily be programmed in, it's just someones address, or it could divy it up on the receiving end of the payments, which would probably be easiest.
easily programmed, this is where you are wrong (and I am not speaking about the logic)... it isn't easy at all in the sense you cannot just put an address and get the coins, you need to gives address/username/password for every single pool and every single coin. For solo, it can't even work (at least not with getwork), I think it is possible to do something with gbt though...
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djm34 facebook pageBTC: 1NENYmxwZGHsKFmyjTc5WferTn5VTFb7Ze Pledge for neoscrypt ccminer to that address: 16UoC4DmTz2pvhFvcfTQrzkPTrXkWijzXw
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October 03, 2015, 12:44:39 PM Last edit: October 03, 2015, 12:55:52 PM by Strannik-74 |
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GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 [GV-N970WF3OC-4GD 1.0] GPU 1264MHz (+150)/ mem 1753MHz (lock) / VDDC 1.2V (lock) Rig idle 70W -- ccminer-1.5.69-git-spmod -- Lyra2REv2 - 9.5MH/s - 155W (Rig 225W) X11- 8.7MH/s - 175W (Rig 245W) Quark- 18MH/S - 220W (Rig 290W) 750Ti without power, steel risers burn through 12+ volts ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs018.radikal.ru%2Fi519%2F1510%2F75%2Fff4ab40c37f0.jpg&t=665&c=XtLQXIGZUyqSag)
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October 03, 2015, 01:19:15 PM |
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[...] 750Ti without power, steel risers burn through 12+ volts[...] Of course they do... Those risers are not made for high power cards. The very worst card for such risers, is the 750/750TI without external power, as the card is entirely powered from PCIe, but even with externally powered cards, those risers are known to fry quite frequently. Were you lucky enough to not get any damage beyond the risers themselves?
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October 03, 2015, 01:39:38 PM |
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-Fixed neoscrypt solo mining(Tnelson) -Stop mining on disconnect's to save power.(pallas / flipclip) -Faster lyra2v2 on compute 5.2 cards. -Faster neoscrypt on compute 5.0 cards. -Fixed neoscrypt on gtx 950 and gtx 980ti cards. 1.5.70(sp-MOD) is available here: (3-oct-2015) https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/The sourcecode is available here: https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminerplease test and report hashrates.
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October 03, 2015, 01:46:27 PM |
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[...] 750Ti without power, steel risers burn through 12+ volts[...] Of course they do... Those risers are not made for high power cards. The very worst card for such risers, is the 750/750TI without external power, as the card is entirely powered from PCIe, but even with externally powered cards, those risers are known to fry quite frequently. Were you lucky enough to not get any damage beyond the risers themselves? The asus rock BTC h61 or h81 has 2 extra power slots. 4 pin=150W (this is standard on all motherboards) 4 pin * 2= 300 (use two seperate cables) total of 450W No need for powered risers with 6 750ti.
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October 03, 2015, 02:09:04 PM |
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Powered risers are pretty cheap, why not just buy them when you buy a riser and sleep good at night. I really dont like pushing alot of power trough the mobo 24/7 when there is a cheap way to go around that.
If people can buy a shitload of expensive gpu:s they can probably afford a couple of bucks on a descent riser imo.
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October 03, 2015, 02:24:08 PM |
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POWERED USB RISERS--
Powered USB risers cost about the same as the cheap and dangerous flat-cable risers picured a few posts back. They power each card with a 4-pin MOLLEX or SATA adapter, not to the PCIe port, but to the goldfingers of the card, just like the motherboard slots.
They are more safe, and the USB cable is more flexible. --scryptr
P.S. SP_ release dot 70 mines Neoscrypt at 340kh/s on my GTX 960, rather than 330-335kh/s with release dot 69. However, a very brief attempt at solo-mining failed. I'll try again later. --scryptr
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October 03, 2015, 02:25:00 PM |
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-Fixed neoscrypt solo mining(Tnelson) -Stop mining on disconnect's to save power.(pallas / flipclip) -Faster lyra2v2 on compute 5.2 cards. -Faster neoscrypt on compute 5.0 cards. -Fixed neoscrypt on gtx 950 and gtx 980ti cards. 1.5.70(sp-MOD) is available here: (3-oct-2015) https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/The sourcecode is available here: https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminerplease test and report hashrates. @sp .... Will it reconnect after a disconnect? ( Stop mining on disconnect's to save power) thx
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October 03, 2015, 02:28:10 PM |
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-Fixed neoscrypt solo mining(Tnelson) -Stop mining on disconnect's to save power.(pallas / flipclip) -Faster lyra2v2 on compute 5.2 cards. -Faster neoscrypt on compute 5.0 cards. -Fixed neoscrypt on gtx 950 and gtx 980ti cards. 1.5.70(sp-MOD) is available here: (3-oct-2015) https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/The sourcecode is available here: https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminerplease test and report hashrates. @sp .... Will it reconnect after a disconnect? ( Stop mining on disconnect's to save power) thx Yes it should. At least it does for me when I implemented it :-)
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October 03, 2015, 02:39:45 PM |
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-Fixed neoscrypt solo mining(Tnelson) -Stop mining on disconnect's to save power.(pallas / flipclip) -Faster lyra2v2 on compute 5.2 cards. -Faster neoscrypt on compute 5.0 cards. -Fixed neoscrypt on gtx 950 and gtx 980ti cards. 1.5.70(sp-MOD) is available here: (3-oct-2015) https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/The sourcecode is available here: https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminerplease test and report hashrates. nice work SP with this version i get with my msi 970 10660 on lyra2v2 i sent you some vtc bears best regards
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October 03, 2015, 03:03:40 PM |
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POWERED USB RISERS--
Powered USB risers cost about the same as the cheap and dangerous flat-cable risers picured a few posts back. They power each card with a 4-pin MOLLEX or SATA adapter, not to the PCIe port, but to the goldfingers of the card, just like the motherboard slots.
They are more safe, and the USB cable is more flexible. --scryptr
P.S. SP_ release dot 70 mines Neoscrypt at 340kh/s on my GTX 960, rather than 330-335kh/s with release dot 69. However, a very brief attempt at solo-mining failed. I'll try again later. --scryptr
curious......on the usb side, what would be the results of me adding one of those hubs and tring to run 8 GPUs off pcie ?
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October 03, 2015, 03:45:58 PM |
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POWERED USB RISERS--
Powered USB risers cost about the same as the cheap and dangerous flat-cable risers picured a few posts back. They power each card with a 4-pin MOLLEX or SATA adapter, not to the PCIe port, but to the goldfingers of the card, just like the motherboard slots.
They are more safe, and the USB cable is more flexible. --scryptr
P.S. SP_ release dot 70 mines Neoscrypt at 340kh/s on my GTX 960, rather than 330-335kh/s with release dot 69. However, a very brief attempt at solo-mining failed. I'll try again later. --scryptr
curious......on the usb side, what would be the results of me adding one of those hubs and tring to run 8 GPUs off pcie ? PCIe DAUGHTER HUB/SPLITTER-- I've been asked this before, if we are talking about the same thing. I purchased a 1 PCIe-to-4 PCIe board, it worked for GTX 500 series and below. I could not get it to work with GTX 700 series nor any AMD cards. There is a picture of one of the boards several pages back. However, a simple USB hub would not work, the circutry could not handle the information from multiple cards on one line. --scryptr
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October 03, 2015, 04:04:55 PM |
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POWERED USB RISERS--
Powered USB risers cost about the same as the cheap and dangerous flat-cable risers picured a few posts back. They power each card with a 4-pin MOLLEX or SATA adapter, not to the PCIe port, but to the goldfingers of the card, just like the motherboard slots.
They are more safe, and the USB cable is more flexible. --scryptr
P.S. SP_ release dot 70 mines Neoscrypt at 340kh/s on my GTX 960, rather than 330-335kh/s with release dot 69. However, a very brief attempt at solo-mining failed. I'll try again later. --scryptr
curious......on the usb side, what would be the results of me adding one of those hubs and tring to run 8 GPUs off pcie ? PCIe DAUGHTER HUB/SPLITTER-- I've been asked this before, if we are talking about the same thing. I purchased a 1 PCIe-to-4 PCIe board, it worked for GTX 500 series and below. I could not get it to work with GTX 700 series nor any AMD cards. There is a picture of one of the boards several pages back. However, a simple USB hub would not work, the circutry could not handle the information from multiple cards on one line. --scryptr Does a USB riser actually use USB protocol or is it a straight replacement for the ribbon cable?
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October 03, 2015, 04:32:33 PM Last edit: October 03, 2015, 05:30:09 PM by scryptr |
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POWERED USB RISERS--
Powered USB risers cost about the same as the cheap and dangerous flat-cable risers picured a few posts back. They power each card with a 4-pin MOLLEX or SATA adapter, not to the PCIe port, but to the goldfingers of the card, just like the motherboard slots.
They are more safe, and the USB cable is more flexible. --scryptr
P.S. SP_ release dot 70 mines Neoscrypt at 340kh/s on my GTX 960, rather than 330-335kh/s with release dot 69. However, a very brief attempt at solo-mining failed. I'll try again later. --scryptr
curious......on the usb side, what would be the results of me adding one of those hubs and tring to run 8 GPUs off pcie ? PCIe DAUGHTER HUB/SPLITTER-- I've been asked this before, if we are talking about the same thing. I purchased a 1 PCIe-to-4 PCIe board, it worked for GTX 500 series and below. I could not get it to work with GTX 700 series nor any AMD cards. There is a picture of one of the boards several pages back. However, a simple USB hub would not work, the circutry could not handle the information from multiple cards on one line. --scryptr Does a USB riser actually use USB protocol or is it a straight replacement for the ribbon cable? USB RISER-- A USB riser has circuitry on the board that mounts the extended PCIe slot in which the card fits, this circuitry converts the signal. --scryptr EDIT: As a comparison, look at this product by ASRock, a PCIe PRO riser, that uses dual SATA cables and a power cable that draws from the PCIe 1x connection. It is claimed to be faster because there is no conversion circuitry. There is apparently a separate line for each gold finger in a PCIe 1x connection. A link below: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813998015--scryptr
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