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June 09, 2012, 05:33:51 PM |
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I'm sure they have USD that isn't customer USD.
On the day of the hack they claimed that 20% of their BTC has been stolen. 0% of the USD was stolen. Assuming a 50:50 mix of BTC to USD deposits; that brings the total remaining to 90% of deposits. If they subsequently get funds to replace the missing 10%, then that 90% goes up, not down. That would put them above 90% not below.
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June 09, 2012, 05:36:22 PM |
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I'm sure they have USD that isn't customer USD.
That would put them above 90% funded, not below. not necessarily. you don't know their corporate structure. They could have easily been passing profits up the food chain so their numbers might only reflect what's in the subsidiary.
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June 09, 2012, 05:39:24 PM |
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I'm sure they have USD that isn't customer USD.
That would put them above 90% funded, not below. not necessarily. you don't know their corporate structure. They could have easily been passing profits up the food chain so their numbers might only reflect what's in the subsidiary. I'm not talking about profits, I'm talking about customer deposits. Those could not have been moved anywhere; they belong to the customers. The worst case is that 100% of deposits were in BTC, and therefore the lowest possible funded percentage they should have is 80% (since 20% was stolen). How then is it possible that they only have 75% of claims funded; not even 75% of deposits?
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June 09, 2012, 06:22:32 PM |
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Once you have filed your complaint you will get a case number. Make a copy of your full complaint and your case number and submit them to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspxThis will get the FBI & FTC involved on a broader perspective than just your local office. If ic3 receives enough complaints they can take broader criminal action and co-operate internationally to make life very uncomfortable for them. While it may seem strange to involve the FBI, there is a reason for it. Just having your name attached to an open "Federal" case in the USA can make travel very difficult anywhere in the world. Furthermore mutual co-operation treaties mean that all bank accounts owned by these criminals can be frozen while the matter is under investigation, pretty much no matter where they are in the world, but again that's federal action. In the course of my ongoing investigation (google-fu), I'm coming across many different names directly linked to the name Zhou Tong, thus pretty sure the bold text above won't affect his future travel plans. Has anybody ever seen a video of Zhou Tong or another image of him besides this one? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fqph.cf.quoracdn.net%2Fmain-thumb-29476-200-9ZEJ2kmLYWxkBNZxKuHGQtVdn9rToe5n.jpeg&t=665&c=nwPgVyqcuzm3UQ) Also, I can't yet figure out for certain how revision 7 was made from 98.197.168.106, an IP address clearly located in Galveston, TX (second quoted text). http://www.crunchbase.com/person/zhou-tong/revisions5/21/12 at 7:06pm 7 98.197.168.106 1/6/11 at 4:38pm 6 120.50.38.252 1/6/11 at 4:38pm 5 120.50.38.252 4/25/10 at 6:51pm 4 27.54.8.140 4/25/10 at 6:46pm 3 27.54.8.140 11/8/09 at 4:52pm 2 117.20.181.203 11/8/09 at 11:59am 1 117.20.151.87 Checking the post logs of zhoutong, he seemed to be out of pocket for 3-4 days during which time the revision was made above (bold). Perhaps on holiday or conducting business, hence the following: (Relative?) http://blockchain.info/ip-address/98.197.168.106http://www.my-ip-address-is.com/whatismyip.php98.197.168.106 IP Address Location Information: My IP Address: 98.197.168.106 My IP country code: US My IP address country: United States My IP address state: Texas My IP address city: Galveston My IP postcode: My IP address latitude: 29.2551 My IP address longitude: -94.8598 My Metro Code is: 618 The reason for me posting this is that I have reason to believe that Zhou Tong may not be the going-on-18-year-old-kid we've been led on to believe. I've have yet to connect all the dots, but during my research I'm finding a lot of connections between key Bitcoiners prior to the creation of Bitcoin, hence the I'm-not-apologizing tone in my most recent posts (for those wondering what's up with Gage). ~Bruno~
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June 09, 2012, 06:28:12 PM |
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Phinn, wasn't it you that posted a pic of ZT in the other thread? A pic of him with a friend, remember?
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June 09, 2012, 06:30:38 PM |
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... Has anybody ever seen a video of Zhou Tong or another image of him besides this one? ... ~Bruno~
Did you not read this interview http://coinabul.tumblr.com/post/24022841613 ?
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June 09, 2012, 06:30:49 PM |
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June 09, 2012, 06:31:37 PM |
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Phinn, wasn't it you that posted a pic of ZT in the other thread? A pic of him with a friend, remember?
Sure did! From his Twitter account, one of which I have all the tweets made on file in case it goes private, like some accounts recently have linked to that account. There's something rather odd about that Twitter account which I'm in the process of parsing also. ~Bruno~
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June 09, 2012, 06:34:59 PM |
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The reason for me posting this is that I have reason to believe that Zhou Tong may not be the going-on-18-year-old-kid we've been led on to believe.
I always thought that to be the case. As soon as I heard talk about regulating bitcoin from the Britcoin/InterSango/Bitcoinica Consultancy clique, I knew they were also part of the freemasonic banker clique and never trusted them. His back story is super weak: one of a lonely young Chinese nerd and that just magically out of nowhere becomes a fan of bitcoin. If he was really as simple in the ways of the world he would have never heard of bitcoin, he'd be working in a cubicle somewhere. Zhou is a creation kinda like Mark Zuckerberg is, except he's not even a real person.
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June 09, 2012, 06:39:48 PM |
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The reason for me posting this is that I have reason to believe that Zhou Tong may not be the going-on-18-year-old-kid we've been led on to believe.
I always thought that to be the case. As soon as I heard talk about regulating bitcoin from the Britcoin/InterSango/Bitcoinica Consultancy clique, I knew they were also part of the freemasonic banker clique and never trusted them. His back story is super weak: one of a lonely young Chinese nerd and that just magically out of nowhere becomes a fan of bitcoin. If he was really as simple in the ways of the world he would have never heard of bitcoin, he'd be working in a cubicle somewhere. Zhou is a creation kinda like Mark Zuckerberg is, except he's not even a real person. Also, I ran out of tinfoil. You guys got any you can spare?
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June 09, 2012, 06:44:53 PM |
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I like this twitter account way more than his main one https://twitter.com/#!/PathOnWay
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June 09, 2012, 06:45:52 PM |
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Let's put the images (one of each) side-by-side so that we can compare together. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m4t7amCf3Y1qfrvjzo1_500.jpg&t=665&c=2esgqLjmBZtjgQ) Glasses? Camera covering up chin?
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June 09, 2012, 06:47:15 PM |
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June 09, 2012, 06:50:51 PM |
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Let's put the images (one of each) side-by-side so that we can compare together. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m4t7amCf3Y1qfrvjzo1_500.jpg&t=665&c=2esgqLjmBZtjgQ) Glasses? Camera covering up chin? oh man, typical American "all Asians look the same"
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June 09, 2012, 06:54:26 PM |
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There's no conspiracy with zhoutong at the center. Bitcoin Consultancy was a company running the British exchange Intersango before zhoutong even heard of bitcoin. Please stop posting pictures of zhoutong, he didn't make proper backups of the database but the claims process is out of his hands. Bitcoin Consultancy is in total control now. These repeated bouts of silence on the part of Bitcoin Consultancy is unforgivable. If anyone wants a place to stay, I have an extra bed and a sofa for people to crash on. Also lots of floor space.
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June 09, 2012, 06:54:52 PM |
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Damn you, psy. Now you let my time traveler theory out of the bag! From: 18 Oct 09
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June 09, 2012, 06:57:43 PM |
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Now let's compare all three images ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m4t7amCf3Y1qfrvjzo1_500.jpg&t=665&c=2esgqLjmBZtjgQ) I may have to take a break for a couple hours because I have to get some shopping done at Walmart. ~Bruno~
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June 09, 2012, 07:01:02 PM |
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Now let's compare all three images
Get a life, Gage, and go find a hooker. Or give Chicago Cabbie his wallet. Either way, don't you have some barns to look at instead of wasting time here?
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June 09, 2012, 07:04:06 PM |
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Now let's compare all three images ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m4t7amCf3Y1qfrvjzo1_500.jpg&t=665&c=2esgqLjmBZtjgQ) I may have to take a break for a couple hours because I have to get some shopping done at Walmart. ~Bruno~ Look at his right eyebrow. See how they're all screwed up?
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People, please stop speculating and attacking Bitcoinica / Zhou in this post, I do not know how much money have in game the users who participate in this post, but I just am concerned about the repayment of my account and really I trust that done correctly. I'm really annoyed by all this, although my net value is only about $3000 right now, for me is a lot of money, read this post is 90% speculation and 10% of useful information ...sucks
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