[Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation

[rjk]

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?


they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

I'll tell you what they can do. They can provide to a court that a report was filed, even if nothing happened with it for any reason. It somewhat shifts the onus onto the cops. This gives much weight when the court has some preponderance of evidence when they decide to file suit. But I guess if they aren't going to file suit even when they know who was responsible, then who gives a flying fuck.

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[S3052]

i didnt have anything in bitcoins, i had a very very small short position and the rest in cash, over 99 percent was in usd.

has anyone got usd payments yet or just bitcoins?


when can i expect my money please?

I am in the same disappointed mindset. I just transferred some funds to bitcoinica after hearing that they got registered as a financial service, so I thought it would be good idea to diversify. Obviously I was wrong. And unfortunately I did not receive anything back depsite all the reassurances that the claim is accurate since weeks.

I am opening up two polls here to try and help the community to reveal the status of the situation, also potentially to take legal steps in case there is no progress.

Please vote: http://bit.ly/oqr6IR

[thest0ckman]

i do not see a poll on your link.






i should have known such hi interest rates were to good to be true. 



can someone tell me the status of my claim? i have the same user id here as i did on bitcoinica. thanks

[S3052]

i do not see a poll on your link.

There should be 3 polls on that site. Works for me.

http://www.bitcoinbullbear.com/bitcoin-trading.html

[Phinnaeus Gage]

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?

they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

RackSpace FAQ:

Q: If my data, stored on your servers, is compromised by a hacker, would you folks file a police report?

A: See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84042.0

Q: Seriously, if my data, stored on your servers, is compromised by a hacker, would you folks file a police report?

A: Seriously? Still see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84042.0

Q: Would you be so kind as to close my account?

A: Certainly, and go fuck yourself, for we don't need YOU!


I would like to see the above posted everywhere where RackSpace's current clients can view it. They need to be made aware of how secure their data ain't and, moreover, RackSpace won't file a police report, thus allowing future hackers to continue their nefarious practices. Perhaps, even, then somebody at RackSpace may shed some light on this episode if they're privy to do so.

~Bruno~

[thest0ckman]

i had to use int explorer to view polls, i have voted.

[dopamine]

this is taking way to long can we get the ball rolling for legal action...

[thest0ckman]

i agree with getting the ball rolling.

has any class action suits started yet?

[bulanula]

i agree with getting the ball rolling.

has any class action suits started yet?

Don't forget : the longer you wait the less chance you have to get your money back.

genjix, is the USD interest you guys are getting not enough to pay out everybody STILL ?

The claim / threat that if we guys file for legal action nobody will get anything back is BS by me.

Why would any company say that ? To avoid having to pay back 100%.

ATM it looks like nobody is getting any USD back, only BTC so I am like

The USD also was stolen ? Some of this story really does not check out with me.

[S3052]

This is clearly unacceptable. After almost 2 months, 83% of people did not get back anything.
This is just after 15 people voting so lets see the picture once more people voted.

http://bit.ly/oqr6IR

But this is still INSANE

[thest0ckman]

if this was a company in the usa or uk all involved would have been arrested already.

since this is international , international police will have to be involved which is a long process.

lets see what the poll says but i agree, totally unacceptable.

[Vod]

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?


they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

You STFU.   It's important for people to understand this was an inside job.

[flower1024]

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?


they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

You STFU.   It's important for people to understand this was an inside job.

why is it important?

personally i dont care; i just want to have my money back (btw this thread is called "Payout update" not "find the hacker").

[Vod]

please STFU about the police, what do you want them to do? magically fixing the database, so that everyone can get there money? shoot genjix?


they can do absolutely nothing in this case, except messing things more up. so please STFU.

You STFU.   It's important for people to understand this was an inside job.

why is it important?

personally i dont care; i just want to have my money back (btw this thread is called "Payout update" not "find the hacker").

It's important because people are talking about trusting these scammers a second time.  And btw, the thread is called security investigation as well.

Your post is so incredibly selfish... you don't care how many coins they steal from others as long as YOU are made whole.  Pathetic.

[genjix]

if this was a company in the usa or uk all involved would have been arrested already.

since this is international , international police will have to be involved which is a long process.

lets see what the poll says but i agree, totally unacceptable.

My name is public, and my address/location too. If you want to get the police involved, I would be fine to go to them and let them have the problem to deal with. Good luck getting any money back then ever. I've got nothing to hide. Bitcoin people are always believing conspiracy theories like us making money from interest or it being an inside job.

To be honest, interest payments would not cover our time investment for processing payments out. It is a net loss considering I'm worth $50+ per hour. I charge $200 per hour for consulting work, and here I am spending 20 mins at a time researching claims and answering emails for sums less than $10. Doing this for interest payments would be absolutely stupid. It takes a long time because it's complicated. We're paying people back because it's the right thing to do.

[Vod]

if this was a company in the usa or uk all involved would have been arrested already.

since this is international , international police will have to be involved which is a long process.

lets see what the poll says but i agree, totally unacceptable.

My name is public, and my address/location too. If you want to get the police involved, I would be fine to go to them and let them have the problem to deal with. Good luck getting any money back then ever. I've got nothing to hide. Bitcoin people are always believing conspiracy theories like us making money from interest or it being an inside job.

We'll never know why you started to pull the scam and backpedaled but I think your identity being made public was a big part in that.  But no matter what you say on these forums, the fact you don't want legal authorities involved (even just a report) is because you know who "stole" the money.

Please dont' try and play the victim.  I don't figure you guys for fools - I know you watched the other scam sites and realized you could take 20%-50% of every users balance without any real repercussions.    Plus you get the full balances of every user that cannot validate their claims to your satisfaction.

[genjix]

Take it to a different thread. This is for payment updates.

My identity has been public since day 1 of Bitcoin. Our pictures and identities are on the front of intersango.com. Our company info is on the about page which has a number and address. My house address is on google. We've run many honest services for 2 years now in bitcoin land. Your post = FUD and smear. Take it to a different thread as I want to keep this thread for simple payment updates and answering people's legitimate concerns.

[S3052]

My identity has been public since day 1 of Bitcoin. Our pictures and identities are on the front of intersango.com. Our company info is on the about page which has a number and address. My house address is on google. We've run many honest services for 2 years now in bitcoin land.

On this point, I agree fully with genjix. And it is true that the claims process means a lot of work.
I just don't understand why it takes so long to pay out verified and accurate claims.

[Vod]

Take it to a different thread. This is for payment updates.

My identity has been public since day 1 of Bitcoin. Our pictures and identities are on the front of intersango.com. Our company info is on the about page which has a number and address. My house address is on google. We've run many honest services for 2 years now in bitcoin land. Your post = FUD and smear. Take it to a different thread as I want to keep this thread for simple payment updates and answering people's legitimate concerns.

My concern is a very legitimate one and relates to the topic of this thread - security investigation.

Unless you and your staff are incompetent, there is no way a hacker could have destroyed the database backups that were kept on a different machine.  So your system was accessed by someone with your blessing, and all the backups conveniently wiped out.  

So your latest stance is "call the police and you will never see your money"?  That sounds like blackmail to me.  Why are you trying so hard to keep the police out of it?

[Transisto]

... It is a net loss considering I'm worth $50+ per hour. I charge $200 per hour for consulting work, and here I am spending 20 mins at a time researching claims and answering emails for sums less than $10. ...

Is there something/anything you could outsource by hiring someone ?

I had not made change to my account for months before the hack.
I have been told my claim was accurate.
I'm now to be expecting 50% of that ~2 month later ... (while the sum involved were above 10K$)

... I've been researching Donald's username on that forum, Do he post here ? if so what is it ?