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Author Topic: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping  (Read 2115842 times)
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December 06, 2016, 09:45:29 AM
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Just came across this in the MAID forum and I think there are some interesting parallels with FCT. User is "Jabba," a main contributor to the forum.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafecoin-maid-price-trading-topic/9923/814

"Until we have a live network the prices are just noise. They are basically meaningless. It's purely speculators entering to make a profit, then leaving to try to make short-term profit elsewhere when they see an opportunity. All price changes reflect is whether most speculators think BTC will go up more first, or whether MAID will. At the moment most speculators think BTC is more likely to keep going up over the next few days. Maid fell slower than other alts at first because there was more expectation of something interesting happening in MAID quite soon. Now quite a few people changed their minds because BTC buy signals stayed strong and support has been strong enough to suggest BTC might keep going up for the next week or more.

When BTC eventually retraces some of the gains MAID will probably recover most of the value, but it will still be meaningless really. Unless you are just in for short term trades then prices mean nothing and should not really annoy anyone. I bought my coins with the hope that they will be worth close to $1 each [MAID is currently ~$.05] soon after launch, presuming it all works as we hope. It might take a bit longer than any of us had hoped, but that hasn't changed, so it really makes no difference how the price yo-yo's between 2c and 20c before then imo.

It's fun watching it go up and sad to see it go down, but it really doesn't make any difference for now, unless you're brave enough to trade it for gains. If the network launches successfully and we're sitting on coins worth under 50c a few months later, then I think we all have the right to be a little shocked and scratch our heads wondering why. For now these price changes are irrelevant and only reflect the very short-term expectations of speculators, with zero utility demand to provide stability or price support."

I think this is an interesting perspective. The main difference though is that M2 is around the corner, while the network release for MAID is 2-3 months away.
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December 06, 2016, 09:54:57 AM
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Lets all hope m2 will be out soon for some good news, cause were losing so much on daily basis now.

Come on factom team! In you we trust.

Good to see the entry's picking up again, and even without m2

Its not just FACTOM that is losing value. Just check out the Poloniex Market. Everything is Crashing there. ETH, XMR, LTC, FCT. Also there was Big Dump on REP also. Someone dumped REP to 10k satoshi from 350 K satoshi. Yes thats 350 K.

Everything is crashing today.....

           
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December 06, 2016, 10:07:29 AM
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just bought my first 344 fct Wink
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December 06, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
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What a bloodbath.
What is going on with the price of alts and why isn't Bitcoin going up as people get out of alts.
I can't decide if I should just hold onto my BTC or put it all in Factom now that I can get 20% more for the same price...

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December 06, 2016, 10:36:24 AM
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What a bloodbath.
What is going on with the price of alts and why isn't Bitcoin going up as people get out of alts.
I can't decide if I should just hold onto my BTC or put it all in Factom now that I can get 20% more for the same price...

Yes, all are down and BTC isnt spiking. Dont know what is happening. Seems like FCT and XMR are stable as compared to ETH

           
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December 06, 2016, 10:41:22 AM
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today we have a rare absurdly good buy opportunity. so i doubled my FCT position. I don't even know how sellers don't see their mistake here.

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December 06, 2016, 10:46:58 AM
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At least with a lower FCT price the burning process goes faster as the EC price stays the same.

1. Is there anyone who knows where you can check the amount of burned FCT's?

2. Also, Is there anyone who can explain exactly what m2 is all about and why he or she thinks this influences the price in a sustainable way (meaning: not a day or two a pump based on the news and then sell off again)

3. I think it would be good if m2 (whatever it exactly is) comes out together with the announcement of some significant new clients.

4. Furthermore: do we know how large the Gates grant actually was?

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December 06, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
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I think there are two reasons for bloody Tuesday:

1) I have a feeling that people are going out of crypto;
2) some change altcoins to BTC.



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December 06, 2016, 10:56:35 AM
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I think there are two reasons for bloody Tuesday:

1) I have a feeling that people are going out of crypto;
2) some change altcoins to BTC.

to 1) why do you think this happens suddenly on a tuesday?
to 2) we don't see an effect in BTC, representing the big losses in alts today
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December 06, 2016, 11:10:47 AM
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I think there are two reasons for bloody Tuesday:

1) I have a feeling that people are going out of crypto;
2) some change altcoins to BTC.

to 1) why do you think this happens suddenly on a tuesday?
to 2) we don't see an effect in BTC, representing the big losses in alts today

I think it started earlier and today is only a panic sale. Wise traders cash out slowly. It is not a first time of this scenario.
Some altcoins will crash even more and you can get very cheap coins. I cannot see the bottom yet.



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December 06, 2016, 11:26:09 AM
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ETH and REP fallin...

https://twitter.com/tensorjack/status/806084099202945024
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December 06, 2016, 11:30:45 AM
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yes, and some FCT investors have bindly followed the panic moove. Now i understand how this absurd buy opportunity arrived.

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December 06, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
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yes, and some FCT investors have bindly followed the panic moove. Now i understand how this absurd buy opportunity arrived.

Actually this guy hacked called boshen runs a venture capital http://fenbushi.vc/index_en.html

This explain the factom drop aswell. but great buy oppertunity aswell.
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December 06, 2016, 11:45:48 AM
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yes, and some FCT investors have bindly followed the panic moove. Now i understand how this absurd buy opportunity arrived.

Actually this guy hacked called boshen runs a venture capital http://fenbushi.vc/index_en.html

This explain the factom drop aswell. but great buy oppertunity aswell.

Did the hacked whale had FCT also or people just followed the Panic move viewing other coins....

           
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December 06, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
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No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

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December 06, 2016, 12:03:17 PM
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No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

Actually boshen also owns factom, he is really formiliar with factom, and also have it in its portofolio for hes venture capital

So if hes private keys are hacked he prob also have factom see the factom dump exactly 2 mins after Rep dump.
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December 06, 2016, 12:03:37 PM
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No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

the problem is that in crypto you have no idea when a coin is fairly priced. With stocks that isn't the case as you can look at earnings, profits, etc... It's 100% speculation with crypto imo...
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December 06, 2016, 12:11:50 PM
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No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

the problem is that in crypto you have no idea when a coin is fairly priced. With stocks that isn't the case as you can look at earnings, profits, etc... It's 100% speculation with crypto imo...

That is the right point and because of that people are going out of crypto. For example, you can say the price of FCT is very good and tommorow morning it is 0.0015  Smiley



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 #6559

No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

the problem is that in crypto you have no idea when a coin is fairly priced. With stocks that isn't the case as you can look at earnings, profits, etc... It's 100% speculation with crypto imo...

That is the right point and because of that people are going out of crypto. For example, you can say the price of FCT is very good and tommorow morning it is 0.0015  Smiley

I don't think that is new info right? so that is not the reason why there is a sudden drop. maybe people need money for the expensive december month ;-) we'll see what happens after today. At least I think that a lot of coins are close to their bottom levels now. Why? no idea, but I simply think that a project like Factom will attract buyers at these levels.
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December 06, 2016, 01:23:11 PM
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No hack on FCT, just a panic sale of uninformed holders. That s why I say it s time to either hold or hold and buy more.

Every education costs money so take advantage of what you know.

the problem is that in crypto you have no idea when a coin is fairly priced. With stocks that isn't the case as you can look at earnings, profits, etc... It's 100% speculation with crypto imo...

That is the right point and because of that people are going out of crypto. For example, you can say the price of FCT is very good and tommorow morning it is 0.0015  Smiley

I don't think that is new info right? so that is not the reason why there is a sudden drop. maybe people need money for the expensive december month ;-) we'll see what happens after today. At least I think that a lot of coins are close to their bottom levels now. Why? no idea, but I simply think that a project like Factom will attract buyers at these levels.

How to detect bottom?
Anyway, Factom is real product and I do not bother myself with current price. I see a huge potential of it. I bought a lot in past years and I bought some coins these days.



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