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Author Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)  (Read 3376928 times)
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May 29, 2015, 10:14:40 AM
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#snort #citalopram #yayo #versed #dilaudid



Innovative does not make a coin.
A coining be used by the world that make a coin.


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Kneel before them and pray, if you pray hard enough then miracles will happen. How hard do you need to pray? Hard enough to make miracles happen, of course!

I am surely sorry to make light of such enlightened reasoning. I blame Rick James. It was uttered from his sarcophagus.
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May 29, 2015, 10:18:47 AM
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-now



Good Bye.....For Now
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It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

Hmm, well judging by the amount of evidence it seems like he ran Ponzi scheme miners, then launched a Coin and said there was a 100 million CAF fund but there wasn't. The Coin itself was significantly premined to inflate only to certain addresses and used that to sell into the market in order to raise funds for adoption instead of the CAF fund buywall thing. This amount of selling then causes downward pressure on the price since all funding is coming from future investors and blaming others all the while he bought a bunch of cars with it (and later on couldn't afford the payments), lived a lavish lifestyle, from investors funds.

Where is the money coming from in which he paid for CoinStand? Was that money from remember hashlets? Uncle Stu? Anonymous investors? Why were previous bills of excessive amounts not paid?

What about the mass banning on the forums whereby anyone who didn't agree were banned? Shifting blame to others, crying when it all comes crashing down. The hyper inflating wallets and the way it's implemented is a bad idea because the keys can be leaked or stolen, the idea itself is flawed and a major security risk. All security seems to have been really bad as well, he let everyone else hold onto the keys as collateral for investment and pretty much everything got hacked in response to him banning so many people.

Please, disagree.
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May 29, 2015, 10:19:16 AM
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Every topic locked
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37915/every-topic-is-locked-hahaha

apparently, Garza is locking every thread on hashtalk now. guess it will be gone for good soon.

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May 29, 2015, 10:35:30 AM
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Every topic locked
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37915/every-topic-is-locked-hahaha

apparently, Garza is locking every thread on hashtalk now. guess it will be gone for good soon.

What can you do now except lol.  Tbh, I'm surprised there are still as many people using that forum as here are, they've been dripping out the door for ages.

Betcha ganza (or whoever is controlling the site for him now) just pressed a wrong button or something and didn't even intend to lock every last post.

Either way, that place is somehow still providing entertainment, albeit not for much longer :-)
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May 29, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
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Please, disagree.

I disagree.

There was also the email where he 'revealed' that the whole XPY ponzi wasn't going to be able to sustain itself and asked for ideas as to what to do.

I'm assuming the ideas were along the lines of falsely, and repeatedly, claiming imminent commercial tie-ins for XPY with massive multinational corporations etc. in order to desperately pump the price before scarpering when the SEC came-a-calling.




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May 29, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
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Please, disagree.

I disagree.

There was also the email where he 'revealed' that the whole XPY ponzi wasn't going to be able to sustain itself and asked for ideas as to what to do.

I'm assuming the ideas were along the lines of falsely, and repeatedly, claiming imminent commercial tie-ins for XPY with massive multinational corporations etc. in order to desperately pump the price before scarpering when the SEC came-a-calling.





I disagree.

That's where Dubai comes in handy.
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May 29, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
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Josh TL;DR

بفضل المصاصون !

Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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May 29, 2015, 12:34:27 PM
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Just when you thought we were coming to the end of the story... Garza re-engages! 
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Hmm, well judging by the amount of evidence it seems like he ran Ponzi scheme miners, then launched a Coin and said there was a 100 million CAF fund but there wasn't. The Coin itself was significantly premined to inflate only to certain addresses and used that to sell into the market in order to raise funds for adoption instead of the CAF fund buywall thing. This amount of selling then causes downward pressure on the price since all funding is coming from future investors and blaming others all the while he bought a bunch of cars with it (and later on couldn't afford the payments), lived a lavish lifestyle, from investors funds.

Where is the money coming from in which he paid for CoinStand? Was that money from remember hashlets? Uncle Stu? Anonymous investors? Why were previous bills of excessive amounts not paid?

What about the mass banning on the forums whereby anyone who didn't agree were banned? Shifting blame to others, crying when it all comes crashing down. The hyper inflating wallets and the way it's implemented is a bad idea because the keys can be leaked or stolen, the idea itself is flawed and a major security risk. All security seems to have been really bad as well, he let everyone else hold onto the keys as collateral for investment and pretty much everything got hacked in response to him banning so many people.

Please, disagree.

Didn't Josh admit that he dumped coins to pay for coinstand? A user sent him 50 paycoins for $1k worth of stuff from amazon, he sold a billion to get $1k and buy the stuff.
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May 29, 2015, 12:45:12 PM
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There are still a few morons on hashtalk who think that it makes sense to hold their paycoins, because "Team XPY" or some other entity is going to develop "features". I don't even feel sorry for them anymore. I think they should invest more of their money into Team XPY and their awesome new devteam  Huh I used to worry about these peoople. But now I don't even care if these idiots lose their jobs, spouses and homes. Everyone who still believes anything good can come out of Paycoin at this point deserves what they're getting.
Edit: And for the shills such as Vik/Badbitcoin, who probably caused other people to suffer, I hope they will lose as much money as possible.

Anyone ignoring the fact that the whole charade is built on a house of lies is either so stupid that they would lose all their money or in on the scam. They wait for the guys who gave themselves millions of free coins to make "features" that will not do anything because the crooks either have coins to dump when the price goes up or no coins and no incentive to actually do anything.

Why bother with a coin when so many coins are in the hands of so many scumbags? Any progress will be stunted by these crooks who can dump whenever they want to.
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May 29, 2015, 12:45:23 PM
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@Paul Revere, In answer to a much earlier question, before the bitcointalk outage, over 800,000 coins release in June from stakers.

Will these coins actually be released? who is left to release them? Or are they sitting in a prime controller that's been "stolen" or is "being managed" by one of the other crooks.

Supposedly these are coming from the #1 address and associated addresses controlled by one of Josh's hand picked groups of crooks. No word on how many of the Hashtakers are actually Josh's Smurf accounts, but the real lack of increase in major dumpage after the previous Hashtaker expirations makes me think that perhaps Josh was funneling a lot XPY to himself through Hashtakers. This would also explain his claims of "Hashtaker owner's" being responsible for most dumpage if he was feeding himself XPY that way. What I know for sure is that the same pattern of shuffling and sending to exchanges that was used when huge dumps were called by Josh and implemented by Joe (that were exposed in the Emails as being dumps) look EXACTLY the same on the Blockchain (Shuffle- Cryptsy) as the huge amounts that are now being called "Hashtaker Payouts" by this exact same gang of crooks who are totally not Josh associated now.

That's not even what I'm talking about, but probably a whole other ball of wax to fuck people over with.

Where are the coins that flyingplows above (sorry man,) and the other legitimate hashtaker owners "put" in the hashtakers? Are they sitting in a prime controller? Who "controls" or "manages" that one now? Are they in some other wallet staking at a different rate set to automatically be returned to owners on a certain date (would anyone trust GAW to not fuck that up)? Are they sitting in some wallet that requires one of the geniuses in this saga to push a button to send them out (and what incentive do they have to do that now that the shit has hit the fan)?

One correction: The hashstaker coins and zencloud are not in anyway related to or held by prime controllers.   It is a common misconception.  Payouts for all stakers are from a reserve pool of coins being used for that purpose.

Who controls this pool, who will give them back, and why should anyone trust that person to not put them in a prime controller to get more coins for themselves or trust them to actually give them back when the time comes?
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May 29, 2015, 12:53:12 PM
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This is what mental illness looks like on the internet.



https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37916/here-is-where-we-discuss-the-latest-post-from-the-mrceo-handle/15
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May 29, 2015, 12:55:19 PM
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To me, that statement of 'Garza's' reads like it was written by ViK. There are chunks of sentence structure and phrases that are very similar to the way he/she/it/they writes. It's possible, of course that it was edited or tidied up from a statement by Garza. Either way, that's certainly not Josh's writing voice.

In a slightly demented way, this whole new period of this saga is fascinating...
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May 29, 2015, 12:56:14 PM
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I don't understand. I mean Garza is broke, why is this person still shilling? On the other hand, they will never get back reputation in the community, so I guess s/he is just trolling at this point

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May 29, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
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I don't understand. I mean Garza is broke, why is this person still shilling? On the other hand, they will never get back reputation in the community, so I guess s/he is just trolling at this point

Shill or idiot, she has a lot of xpy and needs either Josh to be legit or convince someone else to take the bag that she's holding to get whole.
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May 29, 2015, 01:10:25 PM
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37889/paycoin-bankrupt/12 Archive: https://archive.is/prsns

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There were several other posts there linking to Paycoined yesterday. This one did not get scrubbed (yet).


All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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May 29, 2015, 01:33:15 PM
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Does this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066924.0) mean that Josh is going to lose his job in Dubai?
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May 29, 2015, 01:36:43 PM
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Does this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066924.0) mean that Josh is going to lose his job in Dubai?

I so wanted to upsize an order from Ganza and pay with Paycoins.
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May 29, 2015, 01:42:29 PM
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badbitcoin likes Garzas brilliant cock and started to cup his balls & name names. Mr. Madore and Mr. Johnson are the top targets  Cool

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and Jonah of course. who wants to guess who started a thread here at BCT posting pics of him in a self moderated thread  Roll Eyes
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/podcast-episode-5-josh-garza-gaw-miners-flee-dubai/

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