GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[suchmoon]

seems I missed some pages... can we got back to the facts?

what's the Data for Ganzas trial?

http://ia601307.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362.docket.html

I'm going to put this in the OP as well. (edit: done)

Refresh my memory though i thought he wasn't appearing (homero that is) and that his lawyer was going to appear on his behalf. When do we get to see josh in his court vest?

IANAL but I'm pretty sure if the SEC calls him as witness he will have to appear.

[o0o0]

A question to everyone...

Are you on a "heal the world mission" or are you trying to make crypto money?

It's not possible to do both at the same time. You can get BTC by buying it from your salary, or making it, and altcoins are very efficient for that effect. Why do you think there are so many?

Just wondering if we are on the same page.

To make money but not do it in a dodgy way. Its possible to make money but not be out on a "harm the world to get it mission".

Is ionomy out to make money or on a give crypto to the world mission?

If its to help crypto then can they say who uses the ionomy account? Because it helps in the whole faith thing when transparent

[o0o0]

seems I missed some pages... can we got back to the facts?

what's the Data for Ganzas trial?

http://ia601307.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362/gov.uscourts.ctd.110362.docket.html

I'm going to put this in the OP as well. (edit: done)

Refresh my memory though i thought he wasn't appearing (homero that is) and that his lawyer was going to appear on his behalf. When do we get to see josh in his court vest?

IANAL but I'm pretty sure if the SEC calls him as witness he will have to appear.

I still reckon this would make a ripper of a book to read the entire thing. Add in Paul revere's pictures on every second page as some humour.. have him draft some pics against the rest of the history.

Add in some references to the GAW emails and some interviews with past and present staff and investors that got scammed. You could have a nice read worth around 300 pages.

[bitpop]

A question to everyone...

Are you on a "heal the world mission" or are you trying to earn crypto money?

It's not possible to do both at the same time. You can get BTC by buying it from your salary, or by earning it, and altcoins are very efficient for that effect. Why do you think there are so many?

Just wondering if we are on the same page.

Alts are the best for quick bucks then dump into filthy fiat. Never touch non viable bitcons!

Also, OPM, other people's money. Bitconners use hard earned filthy fiat to hodl Bitcoin. Alters use opm and it's viable! No hodling!

Lastly, why's my mtv keep talking Spanish? Trump needs to hurry up with that wall.

[KC6TTR]

A quick advisory to those who have been around here for a while and a flat-out warning to those who are somewhat new -

BEWARE OF "Mr-Coins"...

Ever since his days of teaming up with Garza to bash me publicly after I first called out the GAW operation SCAM in August of 2014, he has been playing BOTH sides with only one focus; to further his own agenda (whatever that may be).

In my opinion, "Mr-Coins" cannot be trusted or even acknowledged as anything other than a scammer who has learned from among the best.


Scott-

[RoomBot]

did you or did you not lie about SEC approval?

Your post above seemed to imply that you didn't lie but retweeted "same stuff as everyone else". Can you show us the origin of that "SEC approval" tweet? News article? Something?

Are you implying that people believe the very first mention of SEC approval was from one of my tweets? If so, which one? I will try to locate the source of information. But one thing I can guarantee is that I didn't just "make it up". I read it from somewhere public whether it be from a forum or tweet.

In any case, what would I know about SEC approval? I was never a primary source for "news", I didn't work for GAW and never claimed that I did.

Why don't you just answer the question. If you didn't make it up then it should be very easy to show the source.

https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/581066951583248384

I can't take it anymore!!!!!

REPRISE:

Now this did actually make me giggle!! hehe!

I'm glad we can see the funny side. But also this is serious business too. We need to stay objective in order for what we think/say to be worth anything and I do appreciate that some here are doing that.

I have no conclusion at this time, it's so early and I am still doing my own research.

We are oh, so glad you enjoyed the little meme because the joke is on YOU.  We are laughing at you, not with you.

There is NOTHING else funny about this.  It's disturbing that you think there is a funny side to people losing crappe tonnes of BTCBTCBTC

[suchmoon]

A question to everyone...

Are you on a "heal the world mission" or are you trying to make crypto money?

It's not possible to do both at the same time. You can get BTC by buying it from your salary, or making it, and altcoins are very efficient for that effect. Why do you think there are so many?

Just wondering if we are on the same page.

Altcoins don't "make" BTC. Altcoins only facilitate a BTC transfer (often in scammy ways) from one pocket to another.

Are you trying to imply there are only two reasons to be in crypto? You would be totally wrong if that's the case.

[o0o0]

A quick advisory to those who have been around here for a while and a flat-out warning to those who are somewhat new -

BEWARE OF "Mr-Coins"...

Ever since his days of teaming up with Garza to bash me publicly after I first called out the GAW operation SCAM in August of 2014, he has been playing BOTH sides with only one focus; to further his own agenda (whatever that may be).

In my opinion, "Mr-Coins" cannot be trusted or even acknowledged as anything other than a scammer who has learned from among the best.


Scott-

Hey welcome back scott. I remember when MrCoins did publically call you a liar and troll. Did he ever apologise to you personally about that? Learning from the past you think would be acknowledging and righting your past wrongs .

For others here scott was quite clear and correct in his initial analysis and was criticised for it. I believe he even got cease and desists and the like fake and was on the official hit list garza had where he wanted his cronies to dox etc and take him out. Be nice to know who was on that inner circle hit crew.

What you been up to scott? should frequent here more.. the evolution of this virus can be amusing at times.

[Phildo]

A question to everyone...

Are you on a "heal the world mission" or are you trying to earn crypto money?

It's not possible to do both at the same time effectively. You can get BTC by buying it from your salary, or by earning it, and altcoins are very efficient for that effect. Why do you think there are so many?

Just wondering if we are on the same page.

I am on team stop idiots from losing money by giving it directly to con men, and stop con men from easily robbing marks.

[KC6TTR]

Hey welcome back scott. I remember when MrCoins did publically call you a liar and troll. Did he ever apologise to you personally about that? Learning from the past you think would be acknowledging and righting your past wrongs .

For others here scott was quite clear and correct in his initial analysis and was criticised for it. I believe he even got cease and desists and the like fake and was on the official hit list garza had where he wanted his cronies to dox etc and take him out. Be nice to know who was on that inner circle hit crew.

What you been up to scott? should frequent here more.. the evolution of this virus can be amusing at times.

Hi there. Long time - no talk. I have just been busy with my own business ventures and travel. Regardless, I am still around and do my best to keep up with the latest developments surrounding this drama as it happens. Yes, I am a recipient of a Garza love letter from his L.A. attorney (at the time). If you want a chuckle and a small trip down memory lane, here it is: http://sgb-e.com/pr/cd.pdf

No, "Mr-Coins" nor any of the other Garza coconspirators have ever apologized to me directly. Oh well... 

Scott-

[bitpop]

Mr coins, why didn't you apologize?

[I_IZ_CEO]

The only guy I'd give bitcoin to is seriousinvest

SeriousInvest can "Make XPY Great Again!"

[favdesu]

A quick advisory to those who have been around here for a while and a flat-out warning to those who are somewhat new -

BEWARE OF "Mr-Coins"...

Ever since his days of teaming up with Garza to bash me publicly after I first called out the GAW operation SCAM in August of 2014, he has been playing BOTH sides with only one focus; to further his own agenda (whatever that may be).

In my opinion, "Mr-Coins" cannot be trusted or even acknowledged as anything other than a scammer who has learned from among the best.


Scott-

don't worry, no one in this thread trusts this creature

[skinnyboy]

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1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
!

Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied.

What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO.

You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud.

Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information.

Shill, much?

If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me.

It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam.

Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage?

Again, deflecting from the point that they lied.

I didn't call you a name, I asked if you're shilling.

It seems to me you'll do anything to prevent that obvious fact from being made clear to people on this forum.

Let me tell you a secret... It's ALL about BTC

There's a few people here that know what i'm talking about

That seems like another empty response...completely evading the perfectly fair and valid points & questions about Ion being raised by myself and others  yet again.

I'm assured that once upon a time you were a decent chap, but your behaviour since the XPY debacle does you no credit.

[Unacceptable]

The only guy I'd give bitcoin to is seriousinvest

   COME BACK seriousinvest WE NEED YOU!!!! 

[Mr-Coins]

A quick advisory to those who have been around here for a while and a flat-out warning to those who are somewhat new -

BEWARE OF "Mr-Coins"...

Ever since his days of teaming up with Garza to bash me publicly after I first called out the GAW operation SCAM in August of 2014, he has been playing BOTH sides with only one focus; to further his own agenda (whatever that may be).

In my opinion, "Mr-Coins" cannot be trusted or even acknowledged as anything other than a scammer who has learned from among the best.


Scott-

Hey welcome back scott. I remember when MrCoins did publically call you a liar and troll. Did he ever apologise to you personally about that? Learning from the past you think would be acknowledging and righting your past wrongs .

For others here scott was quite clear and correct in his initial analysis and was criticised for it. I believe he even got cease and desists and the like fake and was on the official hit list garza had where he wanted his cronies to dox etc and take him out. Be nice to know who was on that inner circle hit crew.

What you been up to scott? should frequent here more.. the evolution of this virus can be amusing at times.

You have a good memory as I have no idea. Can you send me a link to this conversation?

Thank you.

[Mr-Coins]

Hey welcome back scott. I remember when MrCoins did publically call you a liar and troll. Did he ever apologise to you personally about that? Learning from the past you think would be acknowledging and righting your past wrongs .

For others here scott was quite clear and correct in his initial analysis and was criticised for it. I believe he even got cease and desists and the like fake and was on the official hit list garza had where he wanted his cronies to dox etc and take him out. Be nice to know who was on that inner circle hit crew.

What you been up to scott? should frequent here more.. the evolution of this virus can be amusing at times.

Hi there. Long time - no talk. I have just been busy with my own business ventures and travel. Regardless, I am still around and do my best to keep up with the latest developments surrounding this drama as it happens. Yes, I am a recipient of a Garza love letter from his L.A. attorney (at the time). If you want a chuckle and a small trip down memory lane, here it is: http://sgb-e.com/pr/cd.pdf

No, "Mr-Coins" nor any of the other Garza coconspirators have ever apologized to me directly. Oh well...  

Scott-

Sorry KC6TTR, I have no idea who you are or any recollection of any reasonable discussion with you.

Where did this supposed conversation take place between us anyhow?

I wonder if you guys just make this all up for fun, you know, a little banter here and there for giggles. You got me in stitches

[alesx.onfire]

[boki15]

Hey welcome back scott. I remember when MrCoins did publically call you a liar and troll. Did he ever apologise to you personally about that? Learning from the past you think would be acknowledging and righting your past wrongs .

For others here scott was quite clear and correct in his initial analysis and was criticised for it. I believe he even got cease and desists and the like fake and was on the official hit list garza had where he wanted his cronies to dox etc and take him out. Be nice to know who was on that inner circle hit crew.

What you been up to scott? should frequent here more.. the evolution of this virus can be amusing at times.

Hi there. Long time - no talk. I have just been busy with my own business ventures and travel. Regardless, I am still around and do my best to keep up with the latest developments surrounding this drama as it happens. Yes, I am a recipient of a Garza love letter from his L.A. attorney (at the time). If you want a chuckle and a small trip down memory lane, here it is: http://sgb-e.com/pr/cd.pdf

No, "Mr-Coins" nor any of the other Garza coconspirators have ever apologized to me directly. Oh well... 

Scott-

Isn't it great promotion for bitcointalk to say lawyers regulary monitor bitcointalk , does it mean they approved all altcoins . Nice law company.

[Mr-Coins]

.

1) I've stated already that the company information that I got in that it's existing company and the name change is not showing yet, so the company is setup since 2014 as the company is the existing platform XPY.io. But to me, the company is no indicator of whether this is a scam or not. It's easy to setup a company, in the UK I can spend £20 to setup a legit company structure with no liability for losses. So the company info for me is not very important or meaningful in terms of honest intent.
!

Right, so the fact remains that when they stated Ionomy PTE was a company registered in Singapore they lied.

What is worse is that they use that lie to entice people to buy in to their ICO.

You keep asserting it makes no difference if they are registered or not, I will continue to assert that when you claim to be representing a legal entity for the purpose of soliciting funding that it seems very likely you are committing fraud.

Now, having refused to divulge this information themselves & used you to direct people to their slack channel it is again you who comes back & provides this new information.

Shill, much?

If you think a £20 registered company makes it more legit then that's up to you. I know how easy it is to register a company so it means nothing to me.

It doesn't make this (or any other) project more or less likely to fail/be a scam.

Will we ever get beyond the name calling stage?

Again, deflecting from the point that they lied.

I didn't call you a name, I asked if you're shilling.

It seems to me you'll do anything to prevent that obvious fact from being made clear to people on this forum.

Let me tell you a secret... It's ALL about BTC

There's a few people here that know what i'm talking about

That seems like another empty response...completely evading the perfectly fair and valid points & questions about Ion being raised by myself and others  yet again.

I'm assured that once upon a time you were a decent chap, but your behaviour since the XPY debacle does you no credit.

The difference between "once upon a time" and now is I made a bad investment and got scammed.

I feel honoured to be among individuals who have never made a mistake.

Respect.