[ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official

[tolikkk]

soon in july Launch - then exchange, i think

[Bitshill]

soon in july Launch - then exchange, i think

July is almost here pal

[KimberlyS]

m3ndi3, it is very disappointing to see you, a programmer, ask who cares about spyware and compare it with a common tracking cookie. google and fb display ads on their websites, when you close it it's gone. On the other hand, Kaufman's spyware would cripple millions of computers with the nonstop pop-up ads, sometimes even exposing children to porn ads. removing it was purposely made nearly impossible for your average user, even computer service guys struggled to clean it off.
Girl, if you think that it was simply a case of having spyware "in one of his programs", clearly you have not read about Direct Revenue. SPYWARE WAS THEIR BUSINESS.

So who cares?? Haven't you read any of the thousands of angry posts online?? Enough people cared to have 3 class-actions and 2 lawsuits moved against Kaufman's company, which eventually caused its demise.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2539541/security0/hounded-by-spyware-charges--direct-revenue-shuts-down.html

if spyware is not such a sore spot, why would Didi and others be threatened with ban for bringing it up?? We all know the bans slowed down only because they were widely ridiculed here.

if Kaufman thought nobody would care about his spyware involvement, why did he try hide it before???
http://affiliatefairplay.sthetica.com/adware/path-direct-revenue-social-media

why is Kaufman STILL lying about the extent of his involvement, as proved by my last post???
Even worse, according to NBC News, it was Kaufman himself who gave the order "We need to experiment with less user-friendly uninstall methodologies" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13757388/page/2/#.VX9W_UZSgds [No more Mr. Nice Guy section].

So let's stop mincing words here and call a spade a spade. Those who infect millions of computers with illegal spyware are scumbags. Kaufman and his buddies are bonafide internet scumbags.
If Bernie Maddoff was behind a new altcoin, would that matter? Some would decide to stay away while others would see "value" in the "expertise" that he brings, whatever... but unless his track record is truthfully exposed, those who do object it wouldn't be able to make an informed decision. That is why we care.

one and a half month after presale and absolutely nothing has been accomplished by nokoin, while almost 1 mil in btc are held by an anonymous Seychelles company, folks are still struggling to receive their coins for filling the darn surveys.. while running away with the money seems unlikely, time will tell if nokoin amounts to anything beyond a calculated pump n dump. so far the signs are not promising and I'm done wasting time with this nonsense

[jonald_fyookball]

while running away with the money seems unlikely

yes they will probably spew out some blackcoin clone crap code that's barley tested and functioning.
god only knows why they are still running ads for their coin?  perhaps to get a better Dump for their cronies with another round of bag holders.  

[LOrrav]

while running away with the money seems unlikely

yes they will probably spew out some blackcoin clone crap code that's barley tested and functioning.
god only knows why they are still running ads for their coin?  perhaps to get a better Dump for their cronies with another round of bag holders.  

I disagree. Take a look at their strategic plan and white paper. These documents look pretty well done to me, look like they took a lot of effort, and have a lot of insights. Why would such seemingly intelligent and professional people be involved in some type of scam? Why after doing so much work on these initial documents would they release a shitty end product? Especially for such a small reward... just a $1 million USD presale.

From what I can gather from their website, that's $1 million to split between 10 team members, 3 advisors, and 35 angel investors, 48 people, some of them well known and respected? How could it possibly make sense that they would all agree to perpetuate a scam for such a small final sum. It's ridiculous!

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Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:

Finally, (Neucoin) should use a security mechanism that doesn’t require awarding all coins to miners. Ideally, it should sell some coins to fund utility development (like Ripple), give some coins away to help user acquisition (like Stellar), and - unlike any cryptocurrency thus far - award some coins to companies that help make the coin useful, addressing Bitcoin’s “free rider” incentive problem. In sum, it should distribute the new currency in proportion to value added in growing the coin’s user base and developing its utility.

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

[LiQio]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...



(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

[LOrrav]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...

http://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/bc064a56eb65076b9ddcad1caec20f1f.jpg

(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

So your reply is just to name call along with some vague FUD and a graph from Neucoin's own website? Or do you have an actual argument?

[LiQio]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...



(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

So your reply is just to name call along with some vague FUD and a graph from Neucoin's own website? Or do you have an actual argument?

The argument is, your points (see quoted parts in bold) being contradicted by one simple graphic (ironically indeed provided by Neucoin NoKoin  )

[jonald_fyookball]

while running away with the money seems unlikely

yes they will probably spew out some blackcoin clone crap code that's barley tested and functioning.
god only knows why they are still running ads for their coin?  perhaps to get a better Dump for their cronies with another round of bag holders.  

I disagree. Take a look at their strategic plan and white paper. These documents look pretty well done to me, look like they took a lot of effort, and have a lot of insights.

I read their white paper.  Now I'm not a crypto guru, but still, I think it's bogus.  Their claims for solving PoS attack vectors are just a bunch of hand waving and jargon. There's no innovation, no real solutions. 

If you disagree, tell me what exactly is the innovation?

[rizzlarolla]

Why did you guys invest to begin with, they are probably already gone...

Good luck next time "investors"

- Mayer Amschel

No sign of action on nokoin forum, even the investors are starting to rumble,

primevalsoup (40btc purchaser)
"Could not agree with you more. The dearth of information since the pre-sale is simply inexcusable. I bought a reasonable chunk in the pre-sale in good faith that once the pre-sale was out of the way there would be more promotion and active updates on the progress. I feel cheated. Shame on you Neucoin team!"

LOrrav, look at this (40btc) users posting history. He keeps pleading for answers to 1 or 2 (simple) questions he asked, (in between apologizing for asking) Now he has cracked and started talking about he is feeling. http://forum.neucoin.org/users/primevalsoup/activity

He must know this may damage his nokoin investment further.
It must take a lot of frustration to make a large investor say this.

Are his comments Also FUD?
no info, no action. NOKOIN

(PS. Kim, stick with us a bit if you can. Its nice having you here! I cant find peters' history?)

[LOrrav]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...

http://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/bc064a56eb65076b9ddcad1caec20f1f.jpg

(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

So your reply is just to name call along with some vague FUD and a graph from Neucoin's own website? Or do you have an actual argument?

The argument is, your points (see quoted parts in bold) being contradicted by one simple graphic (ironically indeed provided by Neucoin NoKoin  )

How?

If by the graph, you are trying to say that only a fraction of the total Neucoin available will be handed out in the presale, then, of course that's true. But if they didn't do that, how would they implement the rest of their strategy plan, in which they hand out Neucoin in exchange for being placed on popular exchanges, business deals to use Neucoin for Freemium services, online games, etc.?

Even with the very small presale, as long as the market cap of Neucoin exceeds $30 Million, the buyers will make a profit. Bitcoin has a market cap of $3.5 Billion, so that means this will happen if it reaches more than only 0.8% (less than one percent) of the Bitcoin market cap,

[Gekko463]

while running away with the money seems unlikely

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I disagree. Take a look at their strategic plan and white paper. These documents look pretty well done to me, look like they took a lot of effort, and have a lot of insights. Why would such seemingly intelligent and professional people be involved in some type of scam? Why after doing so much work on these initial documents would they release a shitty end product? Especially for such a small reward... just a $1 million USD presale.

From what I can gather from their website, that's $1 million to split between 10 team members, 3 advisors, and 35 angel investors, 48 people, some of them well known and respected? How could it possibly make sense that they would all agree to perpetuate a scam for such a small final sum. It's ridiculous!

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If you think $1 million is what they are going to split, you must be pretty new in these crypto parts.

Mr "I distribute vicious Malware wrapped in kiddie porn" (thanks Kim!) Dan Kaufman has control of $1 million worth of bitcoins in an anonymous Seychelles entity, and as that graph shows, he also has control of $30 million of pre-mined coins also held in offshore corporations.

Ya see LOrrav, ya float the coins on cryptsy.

Then ya use those bitcoins, to buy the One cent coins from yourself for 2 cents, 5 cents (oh, everyone is getting excited now, here comes the dumb punters from the troll box and /r/doge coin! Yippie!) 6 cents...

Then you start selling that $30 million of coins from the Foundations and the Angels into all those buy orders from the dumb money at 7 cents and 8 cents and now 7 again and 6,5,4,3,2,1..   .75, .65. .45 and down to 1 fucking Satochi because it is all profit, every last Satochi.

"Oh, but there are restrictions on the Foundation and Angel and employee money" you might say.

"Shut up, fuck you, we are operating anonymously completely outside of the law, this is not a real registered investment, there is no regulations to protect you and nobody has actually seen any contracts signed in legal jurisdictions by anyone so shut your dumb money mouth" says Dank, the slumlord.

There is no law that says Dan Kauffman has to keep any of his promises.  He set it up that way.  Hence, offshore, anonymous.

Hundreds of millions of dollars are now sitting in the Seychelles.  Dan Takes care of his friends and employees and laughs at the "investors".

You are obviously a shill.  But that's ok, I will be laughing at you too.

I tried to warn "baby Mod", M3ndi3, James and the rest not to give their money to a crooked piece of human garbage like Dan Kauffman.  But the Hamster that runs on a wheel in the place their brains should be just keep ignoring all the red flags and hoping for the best.  They think I am the enemy, and really, I was trying to be their best friend.

Your happiness is not in Dan's plan.

[bumpk1nK]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...



(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

Where did you find that piechart?

[iqlimasyadiqa]

percentage presale so little just 0.1 % from total Neucoin , but if this have good work , i think this is next ripple , but i should wait launching , succes or not ? just wait and keep support Neucoin . I just invest some , please dont bully me 

[iqlimasyadiqa]

when do we get neucoins from the survey?

Never. All you get is spam to your inbox.

what ? do you give wrong information sir

All people join in survey can get Free distribution , and it could you clam one month after neucoin launch
just wait and Neucoin can delivered to you

[LiQio]

Here's an alternative theory. Maybe by doing the presale they were trying to get more people involved and own stake in the coin, and to help fight the "free rider" problem as they state in their Strategic Plan:
...

Maybe the 100% initial year interest rate is also to help fight the "free rider" problem. That is, if you want to benefit from Neucoin, you can't just buy some and sit on it. You have to at least help out by securing their network (ie mining) to get a proper reward.

That's what I love about this coin. They seem to understand that they need to keep incentives of the users of Neucoin aligned with the success of Neucoin itself. And every step of the way, so far, they have done that.

Hmm, you should really go over your arguments again...



(or are you just a sockpuppet shill?  )

Where did you find that piechart?

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113956/neucoin-announces-pre-sale-of-100-million-neu

[LOrrav]

percentage presale so little just 0.1 % from total Neucoin , but if this have good work , i think this is next ripple , but i should wait launching , succes or not ? just wait and keep support Neucoin . I just invest some , please dont bully me 

FYI It's actually 0.1 billion, not 0.1 %. This translates to 3.33 %

[Gekko463]

when do we get neucoins from the survey?

Never. All you get is spam to your inbox.

what ? do you give wrong information sir

All people join in survey can get Free distribution , and it could you clam one month after neucoin launch
just wait and Neucoin can delivered to you

One month after the NoKoin launch, the pump and dump will already have happened and NoKoin will be trading in double digit Satochis.  Like Dogecoin.

[TibanneCat]

Founder of this project is a slumlord in the United States and was implicated in the direct revenue scam in the mid-2000s, so consider any 'investments' as good as gone.

Holy crap I cannot believe the assholes behind direct revenue have created a shitcoin!! this is comedic gold, save me some of that popcorn

So let's stop mincing words here and call a spade a spade. Those who infect millions of computers with illegal spyware are scumbags. Kaufman and his buddies are bonafide internet scumbags.

Well said! I am one of the millions out there that have bad memories dealing with nail.exe, a proud creation of these direct revenue spyware scumbags!
PS: love the nokoin logo!!!

[TibanneCat]

Your happiness is not in Dan's plan.