[ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official

[jonald_fyookball]

the coin is worthless unless it's on an exchange.

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[ratsorizzo]

So Torrgeek, what do you think of the founders/team/angels receiving $40m worth of neucoin over 3 years?
The founders get around $15m, (for 2.25m work) the other insiders get most of the rest.
You did ask the team for clarification but it never came.

$40m over three years is equal to a presale every month, just to pay the insiders.

Wow, so you think neucoins will be worth THAT much!

[LiQio]

So what's your personal opinion arcanin?

That I'll just leave if you keep asking the wrong questions at the wrong people. Come on.

That's the spirit of a planned economy - Neucon ftw

[rizzlarolla]

So Torrgeek, what do you think of the founders/team/angels receiving $40m worth of neucoin over 3 years?
The founders get around $15m, (for 2.25m work) the other insiders get most of the rest.
You did ask the team for clarification but it never came.

$40m over three years is equal to a presale every month, just to pay the insiders.

Wow, so you think neucoins will be worth THAT much!

neucoin could not sustain such a cash outflow.
And all those free coins also,
And all those bounties,
And all those rewards,
And..

Only the insiders will walk away from this in the money. (your money Torrgeek)
And a few early dumpers maybe.

[bitchin camaro]

//  Neucoin - sharing source code is nice. A piece of code is worth a thousand words :-)

how great is this. downloading the windows binaries now.

[Neucoininvestor]

Hi everyone!

Here is a recent post from the NeuCoin Forum about the NeuCoin source code.

NeuCoin Beta source code released
We just released the source code for the NeuCoin Beta.
This implies a couple things: at launch, the source code will be the same, but the genesis block will be different and you will have to re-download clients.
So you can have a look at the source code, but keep in mind this is the Beta source code.

You can check out the source code here:
 https://github.com/NeuCoin/neucoin

For quick access to clients, please see:
https://github.com/NeuCoin/neucoin/releases

You can also have a look at the doc/ directory here:
https://github.com/NeuCoin/neucoin/tree/master/doc

I am no developer but still welcoming move. Thanks.

[newtoallofthis2]

Hello Rizzlarolla!

You still haven't answered me! Why did you set up an account way back in April to specifically and exclusively rubbish every facet of Neucoin? Why do you hate it so much?

[rizzlarolla]

neucoin simple to use?


More deception,
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/inconsistent-transaction-fees/1556

Long time fanboy mminaei doesn't understand tx fees anymore.
Nor do I, they keep changing.
0.001 fee kept, no 0.01 fee destroyed, no it depends how many UTXOs your spending....

Sandrine,
"mminaei, sorry this was not clear, @6120 is part of the team (I'm giving him admin rights now, completely forgot to do it before) 

What?
"Forgot" he was part of the team. BS

Next Sandrine will "remember" Newtoallofthis is "part of the team"

neucoin. never knowingly informative. Always knowingly deceptive.
Read my posts. read this thread.
neucoin, same old.

[rizzlarolla]

the coin is worthless unless it's on an exchange.

What was that argument I had with Dart?
What a fuss he made to point out,

"Only presale investors would have coin "at launch" (to trade). Restricted coin will not be sold for a month after launch."

No exchange comming for a month. (at least?) A joke surely?

BTW shortest "growth account" period is 3 months.
neucoiners who wanna sell can't.
neither can they grow for 1 month only.

Their newcoin devalue by the minute.

[rizzlarolla-italkshit]

I want to confess.

I created an account back in April with only one goal - to talk shit about Neucoin.
 
I am proud of what I do. Everyday I try to post something negative about Neucoin.

Yes, it is time consuming process, but I do my best.
I am not alone. Well actually I am,   Gekko463,  LiQio, scam confirmed and RealMalatesta and few more (jonald_fyookball is not one of me, but I wish he was (he is beautiful), shhhh…sometimes I use his profile picture on other forums, we are actually one.

Anyway, I am doing this for almost 6 months. I feel a little bit tired of posting shit everyday. You know I need to quote somebody’s previous post, then write some stupid questions, uhhhhh… Try doing this 3-4 times a day everyday…

Most often I post posts without any logic. I quote Neucoin or people who talk positive about them and then ask irrelevant questions. This really works, because nobody understands what I ask. Then I re-ask them once again. And of course nobody can answer back because they already answered it previously the best they could So I make it to look like not answered question. That is so funny. I repeat this scheme everyday.

If somebody replies with a logical answer and I have nothing to say, then I release a heavy shit spitters like LiQio, Scam or Gekko463. In times then nothing works against Neucoin I release RealMatesta This one meant for heavy insults.

Most of you might ask me, why I am doing this or what is my interest?  You know that I will not reply

I don’t care about people who invested in Neucoin and I absolutely don’t care about Neucoin.

As long as you like Neucoin in any way, my job is to shit on you and Neucoin.

[jonald_fyookball]

Dan you crack me up! 

[B4zzA]

I want to confess.

I created an account back in April with only one goal - to talk shit about Neucoin.
 
I am proud of what I do. Everyday I try to post something negative about Neucoin.

Yes, it is time consuming process, but I do my best.
I am not alone. Well actually I am,   Gekko463,  LiQio, scam confirmed and RealMalatesta and few more (jonald_fyookball is not one of me, but I wish he was (he is beautiful), shhhh…sometimes I use his profile picture on other forums, we are actually one.

Anyway, I am doing this for almost 6 months. I feel a little bit tired of posting shit everyday. You know I need to quote somebody’s previous post, then write some stupid questions, uhhhhh… Try doing this 3-4 times a day everyday…

Most often I post posts without any logic. I quote Neucoin or people who talk positive about them and then ask irrelevant questions. This really works, because nobody understands what I ask. Then I re-ask them once again. And of course nobody can answer back because they already answered it previously the best they could So I make it to look like not answered question. That is so funny. I repeat this scheme everyday.

If somebody replies with a logical answer and I have nothing to say, then I release a heavy shit spitters like LiQio, Scam or Gekko463. In times then nothing works against Neucoin I release RealMatesta This one meant for heavy insults.

Most of you might ask me, why I am doing this or what is my interest?  You know that I will not reply

I don’t care about people who invested in Neucoin and I absolutely don’t care about Neucoin.

As long as you like Neucoin in any way, my job is to shit on you and Neucoin.

This thread isn't your personal blog, mate.

[LiQio]

Dan you crack me up! 

Dan has hidden talents, "sockpuppeting" being one of the well known and now this great comedian interlude.
Keep them coming mate 

[arcanin]

Nor do I, they keep changing.
0.001 fee kept, no 0.01 fee destroyed, no it depends how many UTXOs your spending....

Now you're just being deliberately stupid. The fees always worked the same way, even for bitcoin. We haven't changed anything on this regard. It's right, it's not something easy to explain, but that's also the goal of the beta : to see what are the things that we need to clarify.

Sandrine,
"mminaei, sorry this was not clear, @6120 is part of the team (I'm giving him admin rights now, completely forgot to do it before)

What?
"Forgot" he was part of the team. BS

Next Sandrine will "remember" Newtoallofthis is "part of the team"

First of all, please use the Quote button. You're the only sockpuppet unable to do this basic task, and it makes your messages quite hard to read. Since they're not that interesting, it may be one of the reasons why nobody usually cares about what you say.

Secondly, are you actually suggesting that Sandrine put a random stranger in the team ? I mean, I already knew that you were quick to put your tinfoil hat, but, really ? Don't get too low.

[newtoallofthis2]

Rizzlarolla - for someone who keeps talking about "deception" and "transparency" its weird you keep ignoring my very simple question.

Why did you set up an account back in April to specifically and exclusively rubbish every facet of Neucoin? Why do you hate it so much?

I'm sure you'll set the record straight with a wholly reasonable explanation!

[LiQio]

Nor do I, they keep changing.
0.001 fee kept, no 0.01 fee destroyed, no it depends how many UTXOs your spending....

Now you're just being deliberately stupid. The fees always worked the same way, even for bitcoin. We haven't changed anything on this regard. It's right, it's not something easy to explain, but that's also the goal of the beta : to see what are the things that we need to clarify.
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The point rizz is trying to make is probably this:

Neucon claims "For a regular consumer, [Bitcoin] is still hard to understand, difficult to obtain and complicated to use"
[from strategic plan]

Arcanin you and the rest shouldn't hide behind "the coin we're forking has this bug in the main tree since april 16, 2014" or "the fees always worked the same way", after telling everyone for months that Neucon will be the easy to understand alternative for everyone. Because John Doe doesn't care about forked code or technical details of UTXOs... (*)

(*) again would love to lighten the post with a winking emoticon

[newtoallofthis2]

Next Sandrine will "remember" Newtoallofthis is "part of the team"

I'm not by the way and I think I've been reasonably transparent on here and on Reddit. I'm just someone who invested a small amount in the presale, I've said before multiple times that it may be a success, it may all be an abject failure, it may even be a scam. I'm just perplexed by the obsessional negativity.

BTW - I love how when anyone posts anything not attacking NeuCoin half this thread be like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ9NmAjCqxY&t=0m10s

[newtoallofthis2]

Arcanin you and the rest shouldn't hide behind "the coin we're forking has this bug in the main tree since april 16, 2014"

In their defence, John Doe isn't likely to be running Ubuntu or Gentoo so doubt he'll be seeing bugs like this ;-) Not to mention they found it during Beta and seem to have fixed it in a number of hours.....

I would however agree that the transaction fees stuff needs a better explanation for the layman.

[arcanin]

Arcanin you and the rest shouldn't hide behind "the coin we're forking has this bug in the main tree since april 16, 2014" or "the fees always worked the same way", after telling everyone for months that Neucon will be the easy to understand alternative for everyone. Because John Doe doesn't care about forked code or technical details of UTXOs... (*)

We agree (mostly; things like the transaction fees are part of the system design and have technical justifications). However, as a developer, I can assure you that the technical side is actually the easiest part, and that finding the right words to convey the right ideas is the hardest part. It's an ongoing work that will probably never end, and that's why we love constructed feedbacks.

(*) again would love to lighten the post with a winking emoticon

Be my guest. Just don't be snarky.

[LiQio]

Arcanin you and the rest shouldn't hide behind "the coin we're forking has this bug in the main tree since april 16, 2014"

In their defence, John Doe isn't likely to be running Ubuntu or Gentoo so doubt he'll be seeing bugs like this ;-) Not to mention they found it during Beta and seem to have fixed it in a number of hours.....

I would however agree that the transaction fees stuff needs a better explanation for the layman.

> It doesn't really matter if a bug only applies to a minority, if you plan to serve millions of normal users (and this is what they do). Even small percentages are big numbers. IMO, you need rock-solid software and I'm not sure if the testing is widespread enough.

> I don't know about the explanation, it would need to be hidden entirely IMO - John Doe wants fixed rates.

But the root of the problem is the USP which was "very easy to use coin for everyone". Currently we see a web based wallet (looks nice, but has hardly any features) and is a late-comer among dozens of established bitcoin (and other) web-wallets which look just as nice.

The local wallet is the same "complicated" (not my word) bitcoin wallet we have been using for years. I was expecting some massive evolution there (at least UI wise), since Neucon clearly states "For a regular consumer, [Bitcoin] is still hard to understand, difficult to obtain and complicated to use". Again the current state, means a late entrant position with no unique feature.

Now I would ask myself why is this coin easier to use than bitcoin/any other coin?
How could investors be satisfied after they expected some beautiful grandma-friendly wallets at launch day (after 1.5 years of development)?

(This is not to offend you Arcanin - I really appreciate you showing balls taking this seriously unlike the thread starters et al.)