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September 08, 2015, 02:29:46 PM |
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... Either it works and all coin holders make money and it doesn't matter if the creators made 10 or 100 or 1000. Or it doesn't work and then nobody's coins are worth anything anyways.
This is a misperception. Neucon is designed in a way that creators control the price for a very long time. I don't see it.
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jonald_fyookball
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
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September 08, 2015, 02:57:00 PM |
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... Either it works and all coin holders make money and it doesn't matter if the creators made 10 or 100 or 1000. Or it doesn't work and then nobody's coins are worth anything anyways.
This is a misperception. Neucon is designed in a way that creators control the price for a very long time. I don't see it. They have billions of neucoins, so they control the supply. And since they have (reportedly) over $1M they collected from presale buyers, (and since they are also assumedly multi millionaires), they can inject demand as well. So they can greatly influence supply and demand, therefore they can control the price. Do you see it now?
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sempak
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September 08, 2015, 02:58:57 PM |
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does anyone still remember summer 2015 this coin will be in the market?
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rizzlarolla
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September 08, 2015, 06:08:06 PM Last edit: September 08, 2015, 07:33:57 PM by rizzlarolla |
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I don't mind profit being made If it is explained TRANSPARENTLY. If the founders are going to make $12m then say $12m (current value) Not imply $2.25m, a completely irrelevant figure. rizz, "Again, a tough sum. For simplicity, if neucoin stayed at approx 1c for three years, (and voting mech conditions were met) how much $ value will have been paid? Around $12m is it? For $2.25m of work?" (btw, it's not really $ values we need, its neucoin issued. Then we can all make our own conclusions. I will explain) I was being conservative. This is not the max achievable figure. I did not include all possible stake rewards. this $12m figure assumes "some" coins are sold over the period. If ALL the neucoin was retained and staked until the end of yr 3, founders would be sitting on over 2,000,000,000neucoin (2bn) Over $20m. (if neucoin stayed at 1c.) NO NEUCOIN PRICE INCREASE NEEDED. So I tried to "be fair" at $12m (1.2bn neucoin). how fair is it to say "$2.25m work". If neucoin price FALLS 90% to $0.001 founders could still net $2.25m? So, if founders SELL ALL COINS as they became unrestricted, (that's cool and it keeps the total DECLARED reward to the minimum, and the release plan IS known to the team) HOW MANY NEUCOIN WILL THE FOUNDERS HAVE RECEIVED IN TOTAL OVER THE 3 YEAR PERIOD? A KNOWN and VERIFIABLE figure. Probably the only RELEVANT figure. 300 million neucoin for $2.25m work over 3yr - completely meaningless. Around 1.2 billion neucoin, CURRENTLY VALUED AT $12M, for $2.25m work over 3yr - transparent. (probably take the team 10 min to work out exactly, what's stopping them) If you understand these figures, you should understand my point. (no math done just guesstimates. we need that "known and verifiable" figure) What of my other questions in my neucoin Project reply post, not decentralized, the email voting system and founder rewards for voting system. Not bothered? I'm trying to be nice. (spelling "neucoin" for weeks n' all) Just saying "Oh well it doesn't matter". Can't argue with that, (I presume that means you agree with my figures) Good luck. Anyone seen Dart?
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scam confirmed
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September 08, 2015, 07:58:33 PM |
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... Either it works and all coin holders make money and it doesn't matter if the creators made 10 or 100 or 1000. Or it doesn't work and then nobody's coins are worth anything anyways.
This is a misperception. Neucon is designed in a way that creators control the price for a very long time. I don't see it. I realize you are probably blind... so
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Puppet Master
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September 08, 2015, 08:30:01 PM |
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... Either it works and all coin holders make money and it doesn't matter if the creators made 10 or 100 or 1000. Or it doesn't work and then nobody's coins are worth anything anyways.
This is a misperception. Neucon is designed in a way that creators control the price for a very long time. I don't see it. I realize you are probably blind... so https://i.imgur.com/vUkYwaG.pngPUPPET! Kneel before thy master.
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rizzlarolla
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September 08, 2015, 10:04:53 PM Last edit: September 08, 2015, 11:35:33 PM by rizzlarolla |
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So, the long awaited, never knew it was comming, Beta test net has been running over a week. GREAT NEWS for the Mods. They have waited so long, fought so hard for neucoin,... Now they can try it for real, you'd think they would be PRETTY HAPPY right now. I'm not hearing it. neucoin can send all the shills they like, but.... WHERE is M3NDI3? She left amongst the confusion. Sad day for neucoin. Sad day for Tippy the rabbit. No post on Beta. WHERE is DART? Seen once in over a week. Last post Aug 24th. Last private thread post Aug 30th. All that work Dart, where are you? No post on Beta. WHERE is Whateveryousayman? Last post June 5th. Seen 2 days ago. No post on Beta. WHERE is BABY MOD? Oh, he's back from school holls, busy closing threads and warning people of their behaviour. No access to Beta. No post on Beta. WHERE is JAMES? "the beta version is promising. See ya at the launch." THATS IT Beta running over a week, only one passing comment from a Mod. James the super Mod, now also cooled on neucoin. Maybe he didn't like the 1 address per person bit. M3ndi3 gone, Dart gone? Whateveryousayman never there, James cooled? But look out, Baby's back from holls keen as ever and running the forum now. (after school is the best time to catch him if you need information) http://forum.neucoin.org/users/btc2you4free/activityNo wonder all the neubie accounts showed up here. Even the neucoin Project team are moving here. Fine,.. just PLEASE don't tell Baby where everyone is hiding... edit - shhh, Baby's in bed, James has read my post and snuck into the forum to reply. "NeuCoin team is working hard to launch a successful coin, protect it and not let it be scammed. The Beta showed a lot more hard work and I can't wait to see NeuCoin launch." Does that count as #2 Beta post? That was hard work James?
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jonald_fyookball
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
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September 08, 2015, 10:40:24 PM |
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scam confirmed
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September 09, 2015, 09:52:56 AM |
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The main issue here I think is really that: we 'the 99%' only have access to around 5% of all NeuCoin whereas you 'the 1%' have access to around 95% of all NeuCoin.
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Mayer Amschel
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September 09, 2015, 11:03:32 AM |
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So it was a bullshit?
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ratsorizzo
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September 09, 2015, 11:42:08 AM |
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Question: who here read the "strategic plan" on the neucoin site? Not the whitepaper, the “strategic plan”.
Actually read the whole thing?
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scam confirmed
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September 09, 2015, 12:33:10 PM |
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Question: who here read the "strategic plan" on the neucoin site? Not the whitepaper, the “strategic plan”.
Actually read the whole thing?
Hi Dan! I did. Sandrine aka Neucoin Projekt generally copy pastes from there. It's very vague and leaves plenty of room for exploitation and abuse. Bottom line: many words, much copy paste from the website and no clear details, we know that already
Plenty of open questions here are being ignored and remain unanswered. Can you make an AMA on Redddit? This might help.
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ratsorizzo
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September 09, 2015, 01:23:41 PM |
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Question: who here read the "strategic plan" on the neucoin site? Not the whitepaper, the “strategic plan”.
Actually read the whole thing?
Hi Dan! I did. Sandrine aka Neucoin Projekt generally copy pastes from there. It's very vague and leaves plenty of room for exploitation and abuse. Bottom line: many words, much copy paste from the website and no clear details, we know that already
Plenty of open questions here are being ignored and remain unanswered. Can you make an AMA on Redddit? This might help. OH MY GOD - what a conspiracy! THE ILLUMINATI! probably shot JFK and orchestrated the fake moon landing too... definitely storing your cookies and working with the NSA to intersect your cell phone calls and have the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives come crack down on your survivalist farm! SOOOOOOO SHADY.
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September 09, 2015, 01:31:14 PM |
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OH MY GOD - what a conspiracy! THE ILLUMINATI! probably shot JFK and orchestrated the fake moon landing too... definitely storing your cookies and working with the NSA to intersect your cell phone calls and have the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives come crack down on your survivalist farm! SOOOOOOO SHADY.
DanK, you alright? Looks like a mental breakdown - maybe get rid of some sockpuppets to clean up the air
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scam confirmed
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September 09, 2015, 01:43:56 PM |
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OH MY GOD - what a conspiracy! THE ILLUMINATI! probably shot JFK and orchestrated the fake moon landing too... definitely storing your cookies and working with the NSA to intersect your cell phone calls and have the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives come crack down on your survivalist farm! SOOOOOOO SHADY.
Is more transparency too much to ask for?
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shane
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September 09, 2015, 02:22:29 PM |
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I get invite code and i sign up now i get 10.000 Neucoin
i want to ask, can i sell my 10.000 Neucoin ? where ?
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scam confirmed
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September 09, 2015, 02:49:36 PM |
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I get invite code and i sign up now i get 10.000 Neucoin
i want to ask, can i sell my 10.000 Neucoin ? where ?
You have to find somebody stupid enough to buy Testnet NoKoins
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greg123
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September 09, 2015, 03:03:39 PM |
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I get invite code and i sign up now i get 10.000 Neucoin
i want to ask, can i sell my 10.000 Neucoin ? where ?
They're just test coins for the beta.
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hoian0809
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September 09, 2015, 03:09:54 PM |
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I get invite code and i sign up now i get 10.000 Neucoin
i want to ask, can i sell my 10.000 Neucoin ? where ?
This is only beta version and the beta doesn’t use real NeuCoins. When they finished it, all will be deleted.
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rizzlarolla
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September 09, 2015, 05:42:39 PM |
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rizz Aug 31, "M3ndi3, are you nearly done with neucoin?" M3ndi3 Sept 1, "Sigh... I gave it my all.. this is my last post... I'm moving on now..." Hey Dart, something IS wrong. What's happening? You were the vocal mod, posting on many forums in support of neucoin. Your belief was clear. Now Beta is running, nearly at launch, and your last post 24th Aug. Over 2 wks. Seen this week, so... well, clearly your excitement is containable. Last private thread post 30th Aug. Was that your resignation? Do you owe an explanation of your disappearance to the people you have sold neucoin to, as mod? Was it the primevalsoup ban? Or Mendi3? or just everything? (Nobody has noticed you missing on neucoin forum btw, nice community, same with primevalsoup. Same when M3ndi3 stepped down. Nobody noticed, nobody cared. Oh well, everyone hangs out here now, except Baby. ) Question, Dart, are you nearly done with neucoin?"
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