[ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official

[LiQio]

No, I don't see the irony, Sylvain Kauphy Roger Laurent.

It was aimed at Gekko463 and since you're apparently skilled with your Google-Fu, you can check yourself what's a white knight is.

What is it you aimed at me?  Your writing is so garbled and the link to reddit made no sense at all.

That link is pointing out yet ANOTHER lie by Kauffman & Company.  One day Dan is in a magazine claiming Althouse is developing a new crypto-coin, with Sandrine by his side.  After a year and a half, no employees listed and no financial reports.

Yet here on Bitcointalk, just in the last few days...we know

Sandrine was an employee, no, wait, Sandrine was the President!

and Orphelie is an employee and

other "real people with real lives" as Orphelie told us...are employees of...something...

and they want billions of Neucoins for their trouble...

yet Althouse claims no employees,

never made a financial report in 6 quarters,

and the new official "Sandrine is not allowed to talk here anymore" "official DanK sock puppet account" told us:  no, no, no, Althouse was just a "contractor".

"We are not going to tell you the name of the real company because we've broken so many securities laws around the globe and and screwed French tax payers horribly, and we want to walk away Scott-free after we are done screwing all the pre-sale investors in the PnD...so, the name of Orphelie's employer remains a mystery..."

So how were you attacking me?  I don't feel adequately attacked.  Send in somebody smarter to run your sock-puppet.

I don't understand you, your writing is so garbled :/

Oh my, we know. The typical Neucon team member prefers sentences like:
"I like shoes and Neucon" or "I put all my love in this project"

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[jonald_fyookball]

how funny would it be if ophie was getting paid in neucoins?

[jonald_fyookball]

Oh my, we know. The typical Neucon team member prefers sentences like:
"I like shoes and Neucon" or "I put all my love in this project"

Haha

You're stoned today, aren't you?

[Magicking]

Oh my, we know. The typical Neucon team member prefers sentences like:
"I like shoes and Neucon" or "I put all my love in this project"

Haha

You're stoned today, aren't you?

You say something funny, I laugh. A lot of people must be stoned according to your standards.

[jonald_fyookball]

Oh my, we know. The typical Neucon team member prefers sentences like:
"I like shoes and Neucon" or "I put all my love in this project"

Haha

You're stoned today, aren't you?

You say something funny, I laugh. A lot of people must be stoned according to your standards.

laugh easily + saying things that don't make a lot of sense = probably stoned. 

[Magicking]

I'm sorry you didn't get the joke earlier.

[opheliekimie]

jonald, gekko,

Can you even spell ?
You lost me the very second you couldn't be serious enough to spell my name accurately.

Also, gekko, you're telling someone his writing is garbled? Have you looked at your french? lol, pal, it took you 2 hours to add a sentence in a french so poor google translate would've done better!

[rizzlarolla]

Dart, I'm glad you're ok, really.
Still not seen through neucoin yet then? ok, no problem.
 
Me and Torrgeek are STILL trying to get our question answered,
"How many neucoin will the founders receive, in total, over the three years after launch, for $2.25m of work"
I know, terribly slack service from neucoin project isn't it, Torrgeek being a mod now and all that, You'd think neucoin project would clear this up wouldn't you?
I've only been asking a couple of weeks, but Torrgeek asked over 4 months ago. At least you used to try to answer, now ZILCH intelligence coming from neucoin. Just shills. and team members strange beliefs.

Magicking, (he will be running 2 foundations i believe, I cant get any fact here) thinks neucoin is comparable to a Fortune 500 company, well I suppose he's half right, the pay structure certainly is, even if the market cap isn't.

Did you know the founders will get at least(?) 1.2billion neucoin for work after launch, (funny how none of the 1.2billion are shown on the pie chart, at least 300m should be as they are set aside) Then there is all the "other" rewards for jango and stuff. Then there is all the foundation teams to pay. (Magicking?) (no pay details to be found)  neucoin didn't even raise the $2.25m cash they implied they did. That turned out to be $1.25m (If you believe that even)
Quite different to what neucoin have told us.

Magicking is telling us it doesn't matter how much the founders make, or what the real figures are, we should just shut up, believe, and ride the ponzi wave. I guess that's the official line now, don't ask just believe. I'm now wondering how a company with $1m market cap can sustain such high wage packets.

Ophelie, neucoins head developer seem to only want to talk about weather Jonadl can spell correctly.

Oh some good news, Baby mod still hasn't found this thread....  Luckily

[jonald_fyookball]

jonald, gekko,

Can you even spell ?
You lost me the very second you couldn't be serious enough to spell my name accurately.

Also, gekko, you're telling someone his writing is garbled? Have you looked at your french? lol, pal, it took you 2 hours to add a sentence in a french so poor google translate would've done better!

Can't I call you Ophie?  It's a cute nick name 

Aren't you gonna post the pics of your work here for me to admire?

[Magicking]

Magicking, (he will be running 2 foundations i believe, I cant get any fact here) thinks neucoin is comparable to a Fortune 500 company, well I suppose he's half right, the pay structure certainly is, even if the market cap isn't.

Magicking is telling us it doesn't matter how much the founders make, or what the real figures are, we should just shut up, believe, and ride the ponzi wave. I guess that's the official line now, don't ask just believe. I'm now wondering how a company with $1m market cap can sustain such high wage packets.

Are we now at the point when you make your own facts ?
You sound delusional.

[newtoallofthis2]

This thread is nuts, a handful of posters with an obsessive attack agenda, posting pretty much daily on this and very little else. Discounting anyone with anything positive to say as a shill or sock puppet. Its all a bit strange isn't it? One has to wonder what's the motivation?

I've particularly enjoyed the evolution of Gekko's conspiracy theories - from take the money and run scam, to pump and dump scam, to securities and tax fraud. He throws together a scenario does some googling for terminology to make him seem an "expert" and then posts it to see what support he can get, if the cheerleaders buy into it he gets all excited and posts it again and again - each time with more bold and randomly using his shift key. Theories which don't stick he orphans - there is a nice example on Reddit where he claimed Neucoin were bribing journalists, when in fact they were talking with the the advertising sales team of a news website. He also gave a great lecture all about how marketing works. His current area of "expertise" is company structuring - I've learnt a lot from his posts, mainly about how he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Rizzlarolla - you fascinate me even more, have you ever posted about anything other than NeuCoin? Did you set up your account back in April purely to criticise it? If so one has to ask why? Have you ever said anything positive? Some of the points you make from time to time seem worth discussion, but its amongst so much noise and snide bollocks that it gets lost. I'm honestly intrigued as to your motivation. Your latest whinge is that you can't get facts and they won't answer you. Its pretty clear if they answered and rebutted all of the bullshit on here they'd need a whole other full-time team. And it wouldn't make any difference, you guys have your set agenda since the beginning and it is what it is. I'm just genuinely intrigued as to what your motivation is...

FWIW - I invested some "piss about" money in the presale, mainly because I thought the concept was interesting. I've used the beta and was impressed - its a clean UI and simple to use - I like how its looking. There is a huge opportunity for whoever can get this stuff right, it may be them, it my not be. The delay stuff was badly communicated but the real proof will be once it launches if they can get mass market interest.

[Gekko463]

This thread is nuts, a handful of posters with an obsessive attack agenda, posting pretty much daily on this and very little else. Discounting anyone with anything positive to say as a shill or sock puppet. Its all a bit strange isn't it? One has to wonder what's the motivation?

I've particularly enjoyed the evolution of Gekko's conspiracy theories - from take the money and run scam, to pump and dump scam, to securities and tax fraud. He throws together a scenario does some googling for terminology to make him seem an "expert" and then posts it to see what support he can get, if the cheerleaders buy into it he gets all excited and posts it again and again - each time with more bold and randomly using his shift key. Theories which don't stick he orphans - there is a nice example on Reddit where he claimed Neucoin were bribing journalists, when in fact they were talking with the the advertising sales team of a news website. He also gave a great lecture all about how marketing works. His current area of "expertise" is company structuring - I've learnt a lot from his posts, mainly about how he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Rizzlarolla - you fascinate me even more, have you ever posted about anything other than NeuCoin? Did you set up your account back in April purely to criticise it? If so one has to ask why? Have you ever said anything positive? Some of the points you make from time to time seem worth discussion, but its amongst so much noise and snide bollocks that it gets lost. I'm honestly intrigued as to your motivation. Your latest whinge is that you can't get facts and they won't answer you. Its pretty clear if they answered and rebutted all of the bullshit on here they'd need a whole other full-time team. And it wouldn't make any difference, you guys have your set agenda since the beginning and it is what it is. I'm just genuinely intrigued as to what your motivation is...

FWIW - I invested some "piss about" money in the presale, mainly because I thought the concept was interesting. I've used the beta and was impressed - its a clean UI and simple to use - I like how its looking. There is a huge opportunity for whoever can get this stuff right, it may be them, it my not be. The delay stuff was badly communicated but the real proof will be once it launches if they can get mass market interest.

I am a securities expert, you stupid motherfucker.  We went through this weeks ago on Reddit.

[newtoallofthis2]

This is brilliant. Yes, you're a "securities expert" - If only the Neucoin team had come to you for advice on how to structure things, instead of wasting time and money with lawyers, accountants and other professional advisors (all no doubt specialising in what is a pretty complex and cutting edge field)! What they really needed was to consult an insurance salesman from Vietnam.... 

So we can put Gekko in the delusional column.

[Gekko463]

This is brilliant. Yes, you're a "securities expert" - If only the Neucoin team had come to you for advice on how to structure things, instead of wasting time and money with lawyers, accountants and other professional advisors (all no doubt specialising in what is a pretty complex and cutting edge field)! What they really needed was to consult an insurance salesman from Vietnam.... 

So we can put Gekko in the delusional column.

That you are dumber than anyone else that posts here is pretty clear from you giving you pocket money to serial internet scamming millionaires.  We've kept our money and warned you not to.

Yes, I own an insurance brokerage in Asia.  Now.  In the 90's to early 2000's, as you should know since all you dupes can do is look at my Reddit history as far as due diligence goes was covered a few weeks ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neucoin/comments/3jcwho/questions_for_former_president_of_neucoin/cuo9dam

Stop giving your money to millionaires.   

And get Ophelia, Sandrine and Dan to answer some questions instead of just trying to discredit critics.

I have never infected 100 million computers with spyware and was never sued by Elliot Spitzer.  I have never had to "settle" a lawsuit without admitting or denying charges that I was an Internet slime bag.

So, I've got that going for me.  Dan doesn't.

[bitpotter]

when neucoin be distributed?

[SadNeuCoin]

Hello,
Normally I'm reading here in order to obtain general information and to expand my own perspective by different opinions.
But this has gotten more difficult by the increase of Ad Hominem attacks and blatant insults. I’m speaking of course to Gekko463 and the escalating number of Newbies in this thread who increasingly use personal attacks. I would therefore like to ask that both sides stop this and argue rationally again.

I ask you not to justify yourself, I only ask you to resume a civilized discussion.

[Gekko463]

Hello,
Normally I'm reading here in order to obtain general information and to expand my own perspective by different opinions.
But this has gotten more difficult by the increase of Ad Hominem attacks and blatant insults. I’m speaking of course to Gekko463 and the escalating number of Newbies in this thread who increasingly use personal attacks. I would therefore like to ask that both sides stop this and argue rationally again.

I ask you not to justify yourself, I only ask you to resume a civilized discussion.

Hi, Yet Another Newbie!

We've asked lots of questions here,  and are just waiting for answers from Dan, Ophelie, Sandrine and the others.

Questions like:

What is the name of the company running all this, and their Siret Number, you know, where all the "employees" are and the financial statements?

Why all the off-shore stuff?  Neucoin doesn't want to pay French taxes?

All of the "insider trade" information normally disclosed in an investment document.  What are the actual holdings of the Angels, both before and after the presale?

Newbie, Newbie!  We are just asking questions.  Instead of answers, we get sock puppets and attacks on our persons.

I have only ever attacked Dan, because he is demonstrably scum, and Sandrine, who is obviously so incompetent that she has been banned by Dan from posting here.

We are just seeking a bit of truth.

But, truth is not forthcoming from this lot of scammers, because, they have too many securities crimes and too much "contractor" tax evasion to hide.  There are no employees because Ophelie, Sandrine, Mark and the rest are "contractors", being paid "en noir", "sous la table".  Offshore.

That's how tax scamming works in France.  I know.  I have been at a start up in France with a scumbag for a leader.

The nice thing is, someday this whole thread will lead investigators exactly where they need to go.

Cheers,

Gekko

[Vivienne]

when neucoin be distributed?

Neucoin will launch before September 30, so very soon 

[newtoallofthis2]

SadNeuCoin - apologies if you've interpreted my post as an Ad Hominem. Its not, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the motivation of various posters here. We've already seen how Gekko is a delusional fantasist, who now tell us that in addition to being a Wall Street Hot Shot and Vietnamese Insurance tycoon he has also worked for a France-based start-up (funnily this has only come up now) - all while being a world leading "Securities Expert." His questioning on company structure illustrates his complete lack of understanding of how average technology companies are structured, let alone one in pre-MVP mode with an internationally distributed team, dealing with a field as complex and emergent as a cryptocurrency. I'm also still keen to see why Rizzlarola set-up an account in April to exclusively rubbish NeuCoin from every possible angle.

As I've said before on Reddit, its quite possible that NeuCoin may be a scam and/or an utter failure. I'm just bored with all the one sided hating (verging on the pathological) that's been going on here and am trying to get my head around the motivation for it. I'm all for balanced arguments, but they seem to be pretty absent.

[rizzlarolla]

I just want a bit of clarity.

The strategic plan has just been quietly updated.
A quick summary of what has changed.
(otherwise you will have to read the whole thing to find the updates, there are no pointers)

Code foundation 0.2bn neucoin + $200k    (was 0.3 + $300k)
Growth foundation 1.4bn neucoin + $400k (was 1bn + $600k)
Utility foundation 0.8bn neucoin + $400k    (was 1bn + $600k)

"neucoin Project" used the old figures here as recently as 7th Sept. Less than 1 week ago. Deflection?

"foundations will be funded with 2.4 billion NeuCoins and at least $1 million"
(down from "at least $1.2m" in the old plan, although "$1.5m" was stated as above )


Anyway, don't bother telling anyone.

Edited (within the hour) to clarify my figures (using scam confirmed post p.60 as correct ref.)