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1041  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Margin Trading during a possible bull market? on: September 05, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
A possible bull market may be emerging. I've just learned about margin trading.

Bitmex is the most popular platform for margin trading Bitcoin? I know this method of trading is EXTREMELY risky. Do you have any recommended guides for being a successful margin trader? Of course the master will not share their secrets, but there has to be a quality guide or information out there.
I have a live real example with me, my friend who is really a great trader and made over 30 btc+ profits during the worse market we have (these last 6 months) with just 1 btc is an insane trader and always finds a coin that will eventually increase even tho he keeps holding them for months he trusts that a coin he bought will always go up.

He didn't even sold his coins when they went up a bit and hold it because he believed they will go higher and he was right. Now this dude who is an insane trader really told me that he would never even consider margin trading during such a market because even tho the price can go up %20 in a day it can also go down 20% in a day, and even the slight 1-2% changes can get you closer to liquidation prices so he stays away from that.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the maximum price of bitcoin in your opinion. on: September 05, 2018, 02:15:32 PM
I knows that it is impossible to predict the maximum value of bitcoin but this thread was intented to express your opinion about the maximum price of bitcoin!

In my opinion the price of bitcoin will reach upto $1M as lot other says,no technocal analysis or based nothing just my opinion. Smiley
Around $100k is the max it could ever reach, I doubt it will ever be $250k levels or so, I think $100k is definitely the max we can have for a long time before dollar really becomes devalued and worthless, until than there is no way it can go any higher. Think about this nasdaq and nyse are the biggest 2 stock exchanges in the whole world and they combine worth 27 trillion dollars or so, and we are talking about ALL public companies in USA which means 27 trillion dollars is really an insanely high number.

If bitcoin reaches to $100k it would 2 trillion levels, which is definitely doable but that is just bitcoin so with crypto and all that it would probably be around 4-5 trillion levels, which is 1/5 of the stock exchange which is really realistic.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Current BTC price below 8K on: September 05, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
this is our best opportunity to buy at a lower price in the market because after this fluctuations we'll be going to the fast increasing price. Pumping price will be coming in our way, so grab this chance now. Bull run we be taking over and panic buyers will begin rushing their hands to buy.
Always the best time to buy at lower prices. The price may still go lower and the truth of it all is that no one knows but what is glaring in the market right now is that the market is trying to take some giant and bold step towards the bull side, which to me is something no one should be missing if they ended up buying the dips. Let's see how long this bull moment is going to be like and if it would be shifted towards btc as well to be able to break above $8k.

Now is a good time to buy. We can see that market started recovery and up-trend. So buy crypto now is almost without any risk.
It is really a great opportunity and we can see the level at which each market are beginning to show some level of strength with the bulls stepping in. At least, what is very important at this state is to take advantage of the present moment and see how things would end up panning out in most cases as time goes on. For now, the bulls seems like they are excited and the market is bringing about some greens after a full month of red, so let's see what September will be having for us.
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will happen to bitcoin after 5 years? on: September 05, 2018, 08:14:59 AM
I think in 5 years the bitcoin rate will fluctuate.The only thing that will change in 5 years so it is capitalized.I hope that she will exceed today's figures 10 times at least
Bitcoin rate has always been fluctuating, and I do not see that changing at any time from now. So, I do not expect that to even be what one should be thinking towards in 5 years’ time as it is inevitable. However, I believe that in 5 years’ time, some developments would have rocked the market to make the buying momentum increase based on adoption and probably by then, we would have started seeing some real life usage of bitcoin as currency which would have generated a lot of adoption, increase in value hugely and a lot of people here now being enriched in the process.

I am sure development would have been past the stage we are currently in, probably scaling issues would have been a thing of the past by then and the currency aspect of it being utilized effectively as well as mainstream adoption kicking in. 5 years is a lot of time from now and for what it is worth, I believe it should be far better than where we are.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin hit a trillion dollar marketcap in the future? on: September 05, 2018, 06:25:29 AM
How far do you think this is from becoming a reality? I would like to know your thoughts about this. Smiley
I think we're going there nearly year by year. There are good news that are coming but it has been ignored due to the media manipulation but if its about the bad news, they are spreading it quickly. Others will say and won't consider that we're going there but that's the reality, early years people won't even think of it that bitcoin will hit $20,000 but it actually did.
Yeah, we are really getting closer as we keep moving on. One thing for sure now is that we are not where we used to be and in just this short term and even with very little adoption, we still have been able to hit up to a quarter of a trillion dollar market, then I believe it is something we will get to see when more adoption kicks in.

Development keeps coming year in year out and people keep seeing the need to be a part of the space, as this moment keeps going on like that, we will get to see the market soaring higher than before and the likelihood of seeing a bigger market in terms of capitalization.
1046  Economy / Economics / Re: [Discussion] Why Cryptocurrencies and blockchain needs to go mainstream ASAP on: September 04, 2018, 10:08:28 AM
I think it should go mainstream right away and its already too late for most stuff to not have a tech like blockchain.

Blockchain provides you with a trust system, a way to keep books and definitely a way to show other people the legitimacy of the transactions. From accounting to insurance, from medical to real estate there is unlimited amount of systems that needs to be put towards a blockchain and get bigger and better that way.

The more we wait on these kinds of stuff the longer it will take, eventually those sectors will realize it but at that time the time required already passed, so the quicker we get blockchain into those type of stuff, the better.
1047  Economy / Economics / Re: New different cryptocurrency on: September 04, 2018, 09:02:10 AM
Good try on advertisement but I do not think some offshore new coin that hasn't been proven on the market yet is the solution to buying stuff with it, specially buying high quality stuff with it. I think either we will start using bitcoin (maybe ethereum would do as well) to purchase stuff first than the other coins will follow that or I would probably not use coins at all on regular purchases.

So far only thing I have purchased with bitcoin has been the vacation I took, I purchased it via expedia that allows you to pay with bitcoin and went there and that was the only time I actually ever spend bitcoin on real life value stuff. Except the freelance works I buy like graphic design works and coding.
1048  Economy / Economics / Re: LIFE GOES ON. on: September 04, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
you can never get hung up on one thing, you always need to develop. and you just need to give the cryptocurrency time to become a developed technology
Impatience is just what worries a lot of people and this is one of the reasons why I keep saying a larger percentage of the new investors coming into this space now, are never real believers and this is one of the reasons they panic easily since all they care about is getting rich overnight.

The real believers who understood perfectly well what this space means and the advantages it brings in the long run are the very early adopters which is one of the reasons why it was very easy for them to hold as much as possible. Ask so many people today, just because of a downtrend, and for the fact that they are not even up to a year in this space, they feel it is the end of the world for crypto.
1049  Economy / Economics / Re: Which form of investment has highest ROI? on: September 04, 2018, 05:07:42 AM
We knows that the crypto currency investment can give us lot of profits even in short time but this is very new there are lot of invesments like real estate,gold,mutual funds silent partner in businesses and lot more but what you think which has highest ROI in short term other than crypto invesments.

My opinion is that real estate can be that one,since my grandfather used to be like buying and selling the lands and made tons of money in his life time but I didn't do that such kind of traditional invetment.
Yeah it is good to invest on real estate property because the profit is surely will be attainable over a period of time. Real Estate property is considered profitable on long term investment and should choose when one can afford to invest on real estate property.
Real estate is not a bad investment quite alright, but we also have to understand that it is not an investment for everyone. It is a high lucrative investment and even though you are going to be getting a lot of profit from it, you are also going to have to be putting in a lot of money and chances of a high risk as well when it comes to that.

Nevertheless, I still have not been able to see any investment so far that would give the highest ROI than cryptocurrency. Things might change later on when we start reaching the laggard phase in terms of huge market movement, but for the way things are currently for early adoption, it seems the best so far.
1050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Casino Question on: September 03, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
Hey everyone, have a quick question: how much bitcoin do I need to start a bitcoin casino? Gonna buy a turnkey bitcoin casino soon which will be about a grand, but about how much bitcoin do I need to reliably be able to pay off winners, at least in the beginning? I know the number varies, but ballpark.
At this point I do not think creating a new casino or a dice website would be logical, I think if you are capable of spending that much money than I would rather buy another persons casino from what its worth. That way you are buying a casino that is already running, already known, already has workers and already has promotions going on.

You will have to give him a big chunk of the money or at least offer him something he can't refuse and in the end you will own a successful casino that is working and making you money from day one. If you can't afford that than you probably can't afford start one from scratch neither because it would require at least that much to own or make a new one.
1051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of gambling? Yes - it exists! on: September 03, 2018, 05:21:00 AM
Yes, you are correct about that, Gambling does have a lot of benefits, but there are also downsides with gambling, and some gamblers out there know it, it may benefit the economy, but first things first, will it give you benefits as well? I know that it is entertaining, and yeah you can earn while enjoying the game, but as this continues to happen addiction comes along to you as well, it's like a drug perhaps, addiction is dangerous, addiction can actually lead you to stupid decisions, and that is why I don't think that gambling will only bring out positive things, there are its side effects as well.
I myself cannot see any benefit of ambling, most of the people play gambling for making money, but I think few people may be succeeded in their aims, while the rest of the people lose their own money that they have put for playing gambling, in fact the chances of losing money in gambling is more high than making money from gambling.

Yes if they play for making money you are right. But what about playing for the entertainment and fun of it, without other motives like wanting to become rich? It makes it a positive - I would argue.

Indeed gambling has benefits that includes fun and recreation, also can increase self confidence if you win a game. It exercises the brain and makes a creative mind. Some study says older recreational gamblers seem to be healthier than non-gamblers. It boosts their social aspects and maintains an active life together with friends.
Increasing self-confidence if you win a game is like setting yourself on a suicide mission because you will end up losing everything at the end anyway. One thing you want to do is to fix your mind to the idea that you are bound to lose everything if care is not taken, and the fact that you got lucky today does not mean you will get lucky tomorrow since it is not like all the luck is meant to be for you.

If you want to have huge fun, exercise the brain and gain confidence on something very realistic, then gambling should not even be the first on your list or possibly not be on your list at all.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Risk of scam ICOs is more during Bull phase on: September 02, 2018, 11:11:03 AM
Doesn't really matter, so long as people do their due diligence, the odds of being scammed by an ICO is actually extremely low. I have lost track of the number of times I've investigated a potential ICO investment option, only to be turned-off by something or other. Typically, I find out news later down the line that the ICO was actually a scam.

Luckily I haven't been stung by any of these yet. But for real guys, do your damn research before investing. If everything isn't exactly PERFECT do not invest as you WILL lose your money.
Yeah, proper due diligence is what anyone need to always be concerned about to be able to get rid of investing in scam ICOs.
There are still scam ICOs that has been pushed out even during this bear trend, so it does not really matter what the trend is.

It is not surprising though since during bull periods, we always get to see new investors coming into the market and since all they are after is getting rich quick, they are gullible enough to fall for anything and that makes the idea of having quite a number of scam ICOs during this period rampant.
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WHY WE BOUNTY HUNTERS HAVE SUCH A BAD REPUTATION on: September 02, 2018, 06:42:23 AM
Well, every bad move usually makes those who are still in need of the service to curb those negativeness surrounding bounty. Whether we like it or not, we will always get to see things like this unless we want to start deceiving ourselves.

Humans cannot be the same, as some are trying to make a living investing in the real world, we tend to see hackers trying to steal from them and the same thing happens in the bounty world, where some have just been cursed with the cheating habit that they just think that is the best way to get themselves rich overnight. Apparently, since a solution has been found to most of the problems, I really do not see it as a major challenge for the honest bounty hunters.
1054  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it worth using the technical indicators in the cryptocurrency market? on: September 02, 2018, 05:11:21 AM
Technical indicators are great help at some point but in the crypto currencies these instances are pretty low. I mean there is valid reason for this and it starts from dependency of the crypto currencies over the fundamental aspects of market. This market is very volatile and alway leads to fluctuation based on the news around the globe, what are the happening of political pressures and much more you name it. Indicators move according to it and not because they are moving and depending upon which we should be making decisions. Thats what I think
They can still be quite useful in the crypto space as well.

Honestly, they actually work the same way and I do not see any difference except for just the volatility of this market.
As long as you understand the indicator you are using, it is aligned with your style and strategy; it would be an easy way to go when making decisions in the market.

What is just important is having that understandings that it is a market, and you cannot 100% rely on indicators or TA thinking as long as they speak your language, everything is okay, as no sane trader will ever do that ?
1055  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex trading or crypto trading and stock exchange? on: September 01, 2018, 08:33:59 AM
I know I'm just some random person on the internet, but trust me - there is tones of money to be made trading crypto. If you're looking for resources, lots of folks on this forum have given great suggestions. I would put forth an additional, slightly different, kind of resource: a group of traders to bounce ideas off.

One of the cool things with crypto is that the folks in the crypto space are generally pretty technologically savvy, which leads to some pretty cool opportunities.

I found a discord group that is super helpful when it comes to learning how to day trade, and I've seen tremendous success with them.

Check it out! Voodoo Crypto
Ability to know there is a huge need to learn and pursue that knowledge is one thing any wannabe trader must first be looking at and no matter the platform being traded on, either Forex, crypto or stocks, it is still very important as it is still the same set of principles that cuts across anyway, except that the markets are volatile than each other.

Moreover, if you want to get the best from any of them, you will just have to learn very well. Trading cryptocurrency is very interesting though if you have the knowledge and strategy to guide you as you can make a lot from the volatile market.
1056  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you track what happens in Crypto industry daily? on: September 01, 2018, 07:43:15 AM
I don’t keep too many options instead I focus on pretty straightforward site. Right now, I keep entire track of all the happenings in the Crypto industry through AsiaCryptoToday, it is a pretty cool way to get non-stop news and updates. Which one do you follow?
I usually read here, read reddit and twitter. Those are my only places to go and find whats going on in the crypto world. That way I am not left behind.

The best place to really check whats going on is here because here you can find all kinds of stuff and you can definitely see both the articles about subjects and peoples comments on it and only people who really love bitcoin all comes here so in places like reddit and twitter there are bitcoin people but there are also no bitcoin people as well, everyone here loves it so you see the positiveness in the air when you read something. That is why bitcointalk, after almost 10 years of operation is still the best place for bitcoin ... talking Cheesy.
1057  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you start trading? on: September 01, 2018, 06:41:14 AM
Trading is not easy with this market.
There is two types of traders
1.Short Term Traders
2.Long Term Traders
Every time we must want to  research before trading. Follow the news,updates  Smiley

yeah you right but both is not easy.. i'm so bad in the trading i just loses with my balance, im not like trading
trading have to know the news and know analize the chart everyday

Me to,Lost couple of BTC worth money by trading.This market given a good advices for us.Waiting for correction  Smiley
People will always lose money from trading because they are so much in a rush to practice when they should still be gaining enough knowledge and practicing with so little before even attempting to start going big on the market.

I was once in this case, read some basics, and the usage of certain indicators and I thought that was it, only to hit the market and realize there are just some decisions you need to be able to make to get the best from the market at certain point and not just all about the use of TAs or indicators. If you cannot take your time to build this confidence from experience, you will be making silly mistakes and adding emotions to trading whether you like it or not.
1058  Economy / Speculation / Re: $ 5,800 is the lowest threshold for Bitcoin in 2018! on: August 31, 2018, 08:22:33 AM
There are many analysts or at least some that still maintain a lower bottom is possible. Tone Vays has been a bear for months and always says we are on death cat bounces whenever we start going up again.

But often times it is forgotten how he called $7500 as the best possible scenario for 2018, so he got it really wrong. This could be the same situation again but at the opposite, analysts like him are being too pessimistic and we may have already bottomed, so anyone following instructions to wait for lower prices will miss the boat.
Once we start seeing some little correction upward, people always tend to raise their hopes too high when in fact, the market could be greening up in the short time frames, but in the longer time frame, it can hit back to continue the downtrend as the case may be. The $5800 could have held now, but that does not mean it would hold again if retested. Like you said, we may already have bottomed, but that would make more sense if we are able to continue an uptrend from here and at least break above $8k.

To decide about this year's threshold value, we must wait 4 more months as 2018 has not ended and we still have about 4 months left to wrap it up, so anything can still happen.

Yeah, due to this support holding pretty well for a while now, we might see some pretty good movement upward, but at the same time, that does not mean the bears are still not somewhere around the corner, trying to look out for the best time to hit on their prey. We cannot say the bottom price yet, until we finally are able to print out a higher low. Time will tell how things would suffice anyway, so, no rush!
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin on the LOW! on: August 31, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
When you tell people that bitcoin is low and they should buy, everyone fears that bitcoin may go even lower, you specifically tell people it is at a dip and even if it drops a bit it won't drop a lot, its a great price to buy, yet they are afraid and some of them are even cocky and say "it is dead, it will never be 20k" or something like that.
Some of these things are normal since a lot of people usually do not have pretty much good knowledge to be able to make any decision in the market and considering the volatility of the market, they are usually always scared not knowing what could be happening next.

For instance, someone said on this forum that he has been buying the dip right from $14k and still buying the dip until now without knowing if the market could still go down the more. It is still a good opportunity for those who understand the long term opportunities, but for some, that is something they really are not after, except to want to get rich overnight.
1060  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price& Volume Timeline on: August 31, 2018, 06:46:47 AM
The timeline is quite predictable if we follow it closely. Now that we have faced a short in July, 2018 I am hoping to see BTC rise beyond all it's limits in the coming years. Thank you for sharing it. I hope it also helps others to understand the current market situation and precisely, to understand that the market is volatile and we should not lose hope once Bitcoin loses its price.
Hopefully we will see it rise beyond its limit but as it is, it may not actually be this year as there would still be some period of consolidation and a recovery to switch back to an uptrend before we can even start seeing something huge at all. Many people are expecting big changes in volume before end of this year but sadly except few major exchanges, the daily volume is not at all improving.

Even though we cannot expect the same thing to happen again when comparing 2014 to this time now, but it took 2 years before bitcoin could test the previous ATH from 2014. Times have changed though, and simply with a lot of development coming up, things would move faster than previous years, but I really won't put much hope to it anytime soon.
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