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1141  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: March 13, 2015, 03:14:08 PM

Thank you for a great wallet !  Tongue

^^  That
1142  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: March 12, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
Quick question:
When I scan a private key with mycelium, how does the app treats that key ?   It obviously keeps the key (temporarily or not) waiting for me to act, but what happens to that 'data' after I scanned the key ?

It treats the key seperate from your Master Seed generated keys.
This means, you need to do an additional backup since that pkey is not part of the Master Seed word list.

This new key is in cache files stored on your device.  So, if you do something like delete the associated files on your device, it will lose everything.  So, to put them back in, you need to start up Mycelium and either start a new wallet or restore the master seed word list, AND then restore the scanned private key.

The above assumes you mean importing of the private key as a wallet address for normal use.  You could have also meant something like... What happens to a pkey used as a spendable cold storage, but that isn't considered importing, but rather simply using it.

Everything stated above is a basic response to your question; however, if you want a technical response, I can't answer.  (As in where in memory, what file, etc)   
1143  Economy / Auctions / Re: Casascius 0.5 BTC Silver Series-2 physical bitcoin: NO RESERVE, 30-DAY AUCTION on: March 11, 2015, 07:09:50 PM
Absolutely understandable.  Me too.
1144  Economy / Auctions / Re: Casascius 0.5 BTC Silver Series-2 physical bitcoin: NO RESERVE, 30-DAY AUCTION on: March 11, 2015, 04:21:16 PM
Lesbian Cow
What I miss?
1145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin - Full Movie | Download | Watch Online for Free on: March 05, 2015, 06:38:59 PM

The site is showing the video as iframe and the problem is with the video hosting site. OP even asked for a fresh video. So, rather than complaining, provide a fresh link, if u have one.

It's not my responsibility to provide everyone a copy of the movie.  I paid for it (in support of bitcoin itself).

My post wasn't complaining about the movie.  It's to notify people that without spyware protection, they will get infected along with all the popups you can't close.
Do you really think a thread with spyware should exist just because I don't give you the movie for free?   Gesh.
1146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin - Full Movie | Download | Watch Online for Free on: March 05, 2015, 03:13:27 PM

It was amazing movie .
you can watch it here
www.coinlearn.org/movie.php

@Armis what does it mean shown at 35k feet ? Don't tell me it means on a plane too ?

Are you fricken kidding me?

That website is so full of spyware and popups, it's amazing this thread hasn't been marked as a scam yet.
1147  Economy / Auctions / Re: Casascius 0.5 BTC Silver Series-2 physical bitcoin: NO RESERVE, 30-DAY AUCTION on: March 04, 2015, 02:36:07 AM
Wait, what?  No sniping?  That's no fun at all.  Smiley
1148  Economy / Auctions / Re: Casascius 0.5 BTC Silver Series-2 physical bitcoin: NO RESERVE, 30-DAY AUCTION on: March 03, 2015, 10:01:47 PM
Jesus....3 BTC for a coin worth 0.50 + 0.1 in silver...
it will go well over 10BTC*, just wait
*this is not a bid
Yep.


4BTC *valid bid

Yep Yep.
4.5   (just to bump and subscribe)
1149  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: March 02, 2015, 05:41:08 AM

As the name implies it's for local trading, i.e. meet up. PayPal and Bitcoin have never mixed. Multisig will not fix the PayPal problem.

Agreed.

Paypal is BAD for bitcoin.  A scammer or even a disgruntled buyer can claim it was fake even many months later.

Note:  Paypal requires that you provide an online tracking number.   Since you didn't ship the coins, it is not trackable.   Don't be dumb enough to think the blockchain is considered online tracking as no transaction proves YOU sent the bitcoin or that the other party is the receiver.
1150  Other / Meta / Re: Mycelium getting its own sub-forum any time soon? on: February 27, 2015, 03:33:50 PM

I don't think Mycelium has enough users when compared to Blockchain.info. IMHO:


Isn't that like saying the World only needs one search Engine since most people use Google?
Or, ummm, we only need Internet explorer since it was the first and most people use it?

As for me, I am happy that Firefox and Chrome came out even though IE was first.
As for me, I am very happy that Comcast cable came out.  With your logic, I would still be stuck on AOL and dialup.

Yes, blockchain.info is nice, but it's still a webwallet.  MyCelium is iOS and Android.  I don't have to worry about my computer being hacked with a keylogger to use Mycelium.
1151  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: MyCelium -Keys issue with regards to BIP39/44 and differences of iOS and Android on: February 26, 2015, 01:58:49 AM
For a BIP-44 wallet, the xpub at m/44'/0'/0' makes a lot more sense than at m/44'/0'/0'/0.  The former can be used to find out the total amount of funds in Account 0, and therefore is usable as a “watch-only” key to monitor an HD account without risking the private keys.  And it can still generate “incoming” addresses in the external chain at 0/1, 0/2, 0/3 etc. relative to the xpub.

m/44'/0'/0'/0 does technically offer a bit more privacy by hiding the internal (change) chain.  Still, whoever has it can see all external incoming transactions into the account and track them on the blockchain.  That's really not that much more private than m/44'/0'/0'.  I suppose xpubs are not really meant to be made public; it's the addresses on the external chain that are.  And they are the same regardless of the xpub they are derived from (as long as correct derivation sub-paths are used).
What I didn't/don't understand is if 4 fields are the protocol (m/44'/0'/0'/0), then why does (m/44'/0'/0') even work.  What is being used as a default in which position?  Sorry, I just need to read more.

Sites:
The site you mentioned (which you call ‘sites’ in plural, even though they are identical) looks to me more like an engineering toolkit than a consumer product. 
I mentioned any BIP39 sites, but listed two (although a copy).  If you use google, you will find many sites and github tools to match the results.  Since it is a protocol, it wouldn't matter which I pick.  To save space, I decided not to make this a thread about a list of sites or tools.  This thread is about keys, not about sites which convert wordlists.  Basically, the SITE matches the keys that the iOS version outputs and the Android version doesn't.   I CAN'T match a wordlist to the keys that the Android version outputs.   So, any person trying to figure out if there wordlist backup is correct or not simply can't match keys output on the Android.

Also,
Oh, and your spelling of Mycelium is wrong in most instances.  ‘Celium’ is not a word.
My wife does that.   She will take an entire conversation and, just to make a point, will try to nitpick anything.  I don't think spelling, or rather the case of a letter, changes the topic of a thread.  If I were to nitpick back, I would say that your determination of 'wrong in most instances' is wrong in that I used the capital letter C only 3 times out of the 11 times I had typed it in.

Thanks for your input.
1152  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: MyCelium -Keys issue with regards to BIP39/44 and differences of iOS and Android on: February 24, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
First, thanks for the response; however, I think you missed it.

BIP39/44 site matches the iOS version.
Can duplicate results, receiving addresses, etc - Everything.  This is great.   Hell, it even has a button for MyCelium wallet which is m/44'/0'/0'/0
- Even the receiving addresses are correct and the displayed master keys shown.
And, it also matches the default output of pycoin using ku.  All is wonderful.

Why would you change the iOS version if everything matches everything as above?

It's the Android version that seems to be off.  Android version doesn't match the site for master seeds, and you specifically have to change it from the defaults to m/44'/0'/0' in order to get the same receiving addresses even if the master public keys shown are not displayed.

Why not change the Android version to match all other sites and pycoin?


Note:  You did say that Android uses m/44'/0'/0 for the 'first' account however taking out '/0 isn't a standard for BIP44.
And, the masterkey is different than any site I have checked.   Meaning, if I type in the neumonic on the sites, they all show different masterkeys than displayed on Android version.

To me, it appears the android version is the nonstandard.

Maybe I am missing something?  More research, but I like that the iOS version matches the BIP39/44 sites which means there is an online resource which, by default, will show me the future receiving addresses of a wallet and the keys match on the site to the wallet app.  (Android matches if you fool around with the defaults even if the keys on export don't match).

PS.  I wish the iOS version would be updated as there are many bugs.  I am guessing you are already aware of them, so I wont go into that here.

1153  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [ANN] breadwallet, first bitcoin network client for iOS, first BIP32 SPV client on: February 23, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
No.

I tried to use my MyCelium passphrase on breadwallet and, although the words worked, the balance was Zero. 
So, it would appear the checksum is valid on the phrase, but appears that bread has a diff offset or something.
This post doesn't answer why, but answers your question in that you can't simply use the phrase from one wallet to another for access to the same addresses.
1154  Bitcoin / Mycelium / MyCelium -Keys issue with regards to BIP39/44 and differences of iOS and Android on: February 23, 2015, 10:26:57 PM
Mycelium on Android differs from iOS / Master keys / Generating addresses

*Why does Mycelium display different master keys on the Android than the iOS version*
(And how to generate the same addresses from both.)

Mycelium 2.2.0 - Android
Mycelium 1.0.1 - iOS  (I will not go into the issues/bugs with the iOS version as it deeply needs to be updated - I have done a lot of testing.)
Using a random master seed generated and on each device works and the associated balances match (unlike breadwallet (another topic)).

Export a master public key for use in ecommerce or simply knowing the future addresses. 
To generate the addresses from the master key, you can:

Go to:  www.evilbs.com/bip39   or   https://dcpos.github.io/bip39/    or download and run offline (recommended).
The file/website keys shown matches iOS version of MyCelium, but not the Android version of the software.

iOS.  Install, make a new wallet.  You then have your master seed.  Since this is just for testing, I got:   
orange hurt leisure rely name multiply pond crawl canoe story only bird

Plug that into the bip39 converter (site or offline).
Click on 'Mycelium wallet' (or BIP44 - same thing) which simply sets to:  m/44'/0'/0'/0
bip 44 and 0's for point/wallet, etc
(I go to BIP32 and input m/44'/0'/0'/0  as this allows for testing/changing the numbers (not greyed out))

Great, this produces a mpubkey for the first wallet of: 
xpub6FJdwT45KSFs3fAhDGwzY6jrMqP5FETMkR3r9wikit2UoYLRUb625rcGUJzgQtKpNrhhi3tpRaC Ubab9tXqK9KqwnTesGQs4UTKHzcXkP4x
It matches the iPhone, and the 1st receiving address of: 14Brr4TQpx4a7WvpN52a7S3mZs9nNfCrLs  all good.

Now, as for Android, although my 1st receiving address is: 14Brr4TQpx4a7WvpN52a7S3mZs9nNfCrLs, the mpubkey
is different
Andoid:
xpub6DW3ui9w59vVVLtdCtNTrxdLNp9WVCppDhKdnyWDpkUC5ZtfMm1evZKyJte7GuSj9AncPh5kmgi 5wCk1s3yAGjQ1vNi1QyxaevXiULhX11a

When getting a mpubkey, you get a different one from iOS than Android for the same master seed; however,
both devices generate the same receiving addresses - The first being: 14Brr4TQpx4a7WvpN52a7S3mZs9nNfCrLs.   
I wanted to know why....

So, I went to any of the bip39 websites to see (after putting in the master seed and selecting Mycelium wallet....

The Derivation path on Android (to see current and future HD wallet addresses) is:
m/44'/0'/0'/0

Side Note:
(if you select bip32 (or custom and put in m/44'/0'/0'/0 )  it is the same thing.  Do this to see future receiving addresses)
and when creating another HD Account, the next is:
m/44'/0'/1'/0    and so on.

Everything the site shows matches the iOS version of Mycelium.  This does NOT work for the Android version since the
mpubkey is diff on the site than what Android shows you. 
So, why does the generated bitcoin addresses match if using different pub keys?

I decided to test with pycoin....

Using iOS mpubkey, for pycoin, you can generate the first 5 addresses using:
ku mpubkey -a -s0-4

0   14Brr4TQpx4a7WvpN52a7S3mZs9nNfCrLs   
1   1f26ma1LitK2Cv1aWRcdPQC7zBeyp5WWh   
2   1F5K9q3JnxZnRbSqoabU6P427rnbDTTyTG   
3   1CaBPyF78q17yo7ZjzJDY7kJfgEaEzaTpS   
4   1HqSjEyLj8LgEL7p3sisTvfvAXpfmnzUqf

Great, so everything matches and works on the iPhone


On Android, you get a different mpubkey; however, the address generation is the same IF you change the Deprivation path.
So, for pycoin, you can generate the first 5 addresses using
ku mpubkey -a -s0/0-4
0   14Brr4TQpx4a7WvpN52a7S3mZs9nNfCrLs   
1   1f26ma1LitK2Cv1aWRcdPQC7zBeyp5WWh   
2   1F5K9q3JnxZnRbSqoabU6P427rnbDTTyTG   
3   1CaBPyF78q17yo7ZjzJDY7kJfgEaEzaTpS   
4   1HqSjEyLj8LgEL7p3sisTvfvAXpfmnzUqf

Why a diff pubkey and why using -s0-4 vs -s0/0-4 to get the same matching receiving addresses?


Why is it that the website matches everything from iOS version of Mycelium, but not Android,
and why can't I duplicate keys list on the Android with the site?

1155  Other / Meta / Re: Mycelium getting its own sub-forum any time soon? on: February 23, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
I agree.

I have been playing around with mycelium for quite some time.  Can point out quarks and issues, etc that should be in a sub forum rather than simply posting in the thread as much would get lost in the shuffle as others post after me.

Got another issue which should have it's own thread in a sub.

Basically, I support MyCelium having it's own sub as well.
1156  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: [WTS] US Junk Silver (90%) on: February 23, 2015, 04:37:46 PM
Only pay to here >> 1AmePMA8d5i7unP9jjfktvvRY4D3yVfBTu << Watch for scammers

16 x Kennedy Halves ($8.00)
40 x Quarters ($10.00)
120 x Dimes ($12.00)


Paid
1157  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: [WTS] US Junk Silver (90%) on: February 23, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
1.50 BTC.   I will take all.
1158  Economy / Auctions / Re: 3 x Cryptolator coins all graded MS-67 on: February 18, 2015, 02:40:48 AM
Well, if ebay taught me anything, it was how to snipe.

You take paypal?  HA!

Jk.  Paid:  1PfThPb4R5ERB1UMiQQ9ctm4o1S5mHke9M

You may still have my address.  Either way, I will PM it.
1159  Economy / Auctions / Re: 3 x Cryptolator coins all graded MS-67 on: February 18, 2015, 02:01:12 AM
Well, that was poor timing.  I have a full second to wait.
1160  Economy / Auctions / Re: 3 x Cryptolator coins all graded MS-67 on: February 18, 2015, 01:59:59 AM
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