Of course he has room. No one has bought it in years.  If I were you Id offer 12 btc and that's being super generous because its the holidays. Says the guy that doesn't have any. But, if you do, I'll happily pay you more. Just consider the profit you would make.  |
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100% agreed there! Just need to get a couple of low numbered 1 BTC Silvers and I'm all set With the Gold, the serial doesn't matter since so few were made. It would be nice if you can find the same serials on those Gold unit in Silver. - May be possible to ask Max if he could contact the original buyer of those Silver to see if you could make an offer to match them up. I am assuming you got both Gold for the 5.2 price? |
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Of course that's up to you. Since I don't know whose toes I would be stepping on, I can say you would do better with an auction. I am not going to bid higher since I can't verify the validity (not identity) of the person I would be bidding against. You'll obviously be using escrow so you should be safe. Also, a little confused. 5.2 is very fair, but you mentioned keeping one of the Gold. If you do, then 5.2 is far too high for me. |
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Is this just a test to possibly find value, or are you trying to sell? Thought about an auction? I would happily bid. |
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Wow, Kialara art-wallets increase its value very fast (0.70 is a big price). I was lucky to buy them last year on Mitchel's group buy.
Just make sure you don't confuse the different ones. .7BTC was the Silver coin one. Regular ones are a lot less. This posting wasn't for the 'art' bars, but specifically to the Bitcoin 'older' ones. |
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The set doesn't belong to me anymore. It will ship out tomorrow. Viz decided on the set. Paid for. FedEx Shipped - Set for Friday delivery. |
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For a collector keeping it on the shelf is a wonderful idea, but for someone selling a product having it sit for 2 years is not only bad, its detrimental to future sales of the coin.
Its the same reason people who are selling a house dont leave it on the market for two years. No one wants to buy that stale old house that everyone was rejecting for the last 24 months or more.
He needs to make an aggressive price drop to renew interest or pull them from the market all together.
But what do I know. Im just Sourgummies.
I agree with having it sit isn't good if you're trying to get rid of it. I don't think it has any effect on future sales (if anything, it's Great for future sales if the only offering is a higher price). Anyone could come in and sell for a lower price if they wanted. A house sitting is only bad if it's vacant. If I am living in it, then it doesn't hurt, although I agree with concept for houses - Not for collectables. All that said, I agree with user: zanzibar It's hard to decide if selling now for a lower BTC price would be more beneficial than waiting. 19 BTC a year ago was far cheaper than 19 BTC is now. Example. Buying a collectible for 10 BTC while BTC was at $225 is far cheaper 10 BTC while at $740 (time of this post). It's a mind screw for most people (myself included) when something could have been purchased for BTC or cash. The difference here is that Casascius was never sold for USD. |
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Noone ever will pay 19 btc for this 10 btc coin. Bitmarket is just dreaming that he'll get that price. If his coins were fairly priced they would sell, not sit on the shelf for 2+ years.
I wouldn't mind my coins sitting on the shelf for 2+ years if I eventually get that kind of pricing. In fact, I do keep mine on a shelf that long. What's wrong with waiting? It's not like the coin takes up a lot of space. And, a graded coin doesn't degrade over time. |
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That is a very nice set you have there Michail It's hard to see numbered set of Kialara these days The set doesn't belong to me anymore. It will ship out tomorrow. |
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An offer you can't refuse, careful may have the mafia turn up and actually make you an offer you can't refuse, lol That is quite a deal though, are you actively looking to sell this set? I don't believe I have actively ever tried to sell any of my collection of anything. Quite simply, someone told me of this thread knowing I have Kialara's so I thought I would post a response instead of a sale thread. I don't say that I would never sell something, so this leaves an option open for someone to make me an extreme offer. Viz has the option to buy it. If not, I will unlikely post a sale thread. Just to be clear on what I told Viz, redacted
No problem. The other two pairs that I have are: #11 Gold/Silver - Super Extremely unlikely of a sale (I don't say never.) #22 Gold/Silver - Very unlikely of a sale. Also, there is information out that I have more sets than I do. The others were purchased for other people that took delivery long ago. (That's regarding Gold/Silver combos - I do have original and labyrinth though.) |
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I don't want to sell, but if the unit from Canary doesn't work out for you, (as a backup possibility) I will offer the following. 3 BTC for the set. (Plus actual shipping costs). #66 Kialara Gold #66 Kialara Silver #66 Kialara Labyrinth http://imgur.com/a/o1EsjPayment only to my profile bitcoin address (just to avoid issues of PMs from scammers). It is the only set of three matching serial numbers I have. (I only have a couple of Gold/Silver sets with lower serial numbers, but not selling unless an offer I can't refuse.)   |
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They look nice. |
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Anyway, my offer of of 14.5 is retracted and my new offer is 11.5
Good luck with that. Let me know if you find someone selling at 11.5 I would be happy to buy all the seller has to offer. |
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Thank you CrazyCraig for the answer.
Congrats for your website also.
Is it possible to have a more precise answer regarding the hot wallet? Any admin here?
If I have a siteweb at moneypot, my players will be able to wager a lot of bitcoins.
Thank you!
Why would you ask about the hot wallet? To me, I would want to make sure there is NOT a lot of coins in a hot wallet to ensure that even if there is a hack (or even a cheat), that you don't have to worry about many coins being lost. Personally, I would rather there be little to none in a hotwallet. I would want to cause the pain of not being able to pull out a lot of coins (high roller or not) to ensure this type of security. |
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Does that mean you're lowering the price?  |
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Luckily it seems this didn't happen. Nobody won more than 20 BTC since the buggy limit was put in place. Some players will have been aiming to win more than 20 BTC though, and it's not clear how to refund them.
If I had bet 1 BTC aiming to win 100 BTC and missed, what refund am I due? If I had hit, I would only have won 20 BTC, or 20% of my intended jackpot. So perhaps the bet should only have cost me 20% of what I paid, and so I should get a 0.80 BTC refund. That seems clear enough. But what about for the custom bets. If I bet 1 BTC aiming to win either 10 BTC *or* 100 BTC and hit just the 10 BTC part, do I still get the 0.80 BTC refund? That part of the bet could only even have won 20% of the intended amount, but the other part won the full amount. It's kind of confusing to think about. I hope the MoneyPot guys work out a way of refunding people that's fair to both players and investors.
Why would they refund anyone that didn't win? If they won, they would have been entitled to it since the bet was accepted. And, they said they would have paid out. Asking 'what if' is kind of pointless. |
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Well, no one can complain now. It's been completely removed from the site.
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I managed to add this one to cart, but did not win it.
Well, get me one! |
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It's actually more related to the cost of doing business. If you have a table with a player that is starting out at a penny, you get, let's say 30 hands per hour on average. That's a $0.30 return, while you're paying someone $15/hr for doing that. There are a lot of overheads of casinos that online sites aren't faced with. Add in things like security, other personnel, rent, etc. and it goes up. They base the minimum bets around what is worth it to them: if it's not worth the time to do a $5 hand but it is worth it for $10, they will set the min at 10.
I don't agree. Casinos have many tables. They are all the same with players and dealers. Some are $1-$500 limits while others are $5 - $1000 and up the chain. Sure, if the casino is full and they want to pull more money in (over the long run), they will change the limits, but always keeping to the betting ranges. As customers leave (for a show, eating, sleeping), they then start to drop table limits and/or simply shut tables down. My point was not that they start at a penny. It was that there are betting ranges to stop the bet doubles after a limited number of bets. A casino has to keep the lights on (sure), and they don't want people coming in with $100k and nickle/diming them by bet doubling starting at $5. (14+ consecutive bets). I am not suggesting MP make this type of change. Also, MP is able to handle more than 30 hands per hour. |
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