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1201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to determine the Total Supply of an unlisted Token? on: August 17, 2023, 03:14:47 PM
P.S. How do you find this shit?
Very same way I found PEPE, BOBO & JIM early, i.e. by sorting GeckoTerminal.
Do you happen to know, by any change if there are telegram/discord groups that monitor and chats about new microcaps they monitor with dex tracker? PM me a link if you know and want to share. I sometimes use these trackers but it's hard work doing everything by yourself and i am missing gems all the time. I feel like my changes were higher if there would be a more eyes looking at them and weeding out the trash which is most of them.
1202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: After FTX collapse, some call for a return to decentralized roots on: August 17, 2023, 03:07:08 PM
Decentralized roots... what would that be? Most of us still use centralized exchanges for all sorts of reasons. Higher volumes, more markets, and options...
I use decentralized exchange only as I care of my personal information. I don't want to share my passport with everyone and link all the transactions to my name. That's insane doing that in today's world and situation.
But you do share your passport/id with the service that acts as a fiat ramp when you cash out. You can move your tokens in DeFi, sure. But ultimately you will leave a transaction trail that you need to explain to CEX if the amount of money you are cashing out is big enough, or if there's something suspicious with the tx history, so hopefully you have everything in order so you can explain the origin and the route you were moving your money.

This is of course assuming that you will some day want to cash out.
1203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: new token idea on: August 17, 2023, 11:14:44 AM
The token idea is okay, but what you need to know is that every token created has to solve a problem or have a product, because cryptocurrency market has to deal with products and services, and which product or service the coin going to give and everything has to be stated in whitepepper which can attract crypto communities more.
Problem it's solving you can find right in the last "Conclusion" part of the pdf draft that OP provided.

However my question to op is that aren't there already projects that are building to solve these problems? Why wouldn't you join your forces and seek to work with bigger groups that have manpower behind them, than inventing something from a scratch? Dusk Network for example is one of the teams that are building regulatory friendly solution.

1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 17, 2023, 10:30:31 AM
I'm personally betting on the bunch of products them both sell, as the fight we are talking about here is no more than a marketing strategy to boost their popularity and have people talking about both "influencers" and, indirectly, their many brands.

Now, talking about the fight itself, I've always thought that Zucky is not the tyoe of guy who has physical stamina, and although Elon wasn't an Adonis either, I think that he has more chances to win. Both will be fit and trained for the fight, but I see Musk stronger.
Don't know which marketing strategy would that be. Mark is acting like an adult and as a real people practising BJJ and he wants to do it by the book, as this is not about him, but the sport. Not overstepping any limits that are in there for safety reasons, and not to make this some sort of show wrestling event, but a real legit fight.

And in the opposite end Musk is acting like a insecure kid who knows nothing about the real world and now he is trying to bully Mark in twitter, backfiring horribly. I see no positive outcome for Elon in this. And people watching this get only shared sense of shame.

This fight will never happen and opposite to what Elon said, Italian government never even agreed on use of the Colosseum. So if there's a bet that if this fights happen within some time limit or not, i would bet not on any time frame.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/30/colosseum-not-host-elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-fight/
1205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Whitepaper just Buzz Word in Alt and Meme coins? on: August 16, 2023, 01:43:40 PM
Whitepaper used to be the selling point of altcoins in my opinion. If it is laid down nicely, although it's technical, investors are going to scrutinized it so see how good the project is. But when the emergence of thousands of altcoin and shitcoins and memecoins, writing Whitepaper is no longer what it used to be as everyone is just copying each other.

It used to be a science because developer take time and pride in writing it. But now, it's very different, these alt and meme coins just hire someone to write for them for a cheap price.
I don't know which era is this is what you are referring to, as there are ton of copies of whitepapers even during ico era. Most of them jut didn't catch on as they got caught and red trusted in bitcointalk for plagiarizing whitepapers, so people wouldn't buy them.

These days scammers with half a brain are using AI to forge all sorts of nonsense that sounds like a generic whitepaper with buzzwords. And since they don't need writers from fiverr to do that, they are using people from fiverr to organize crowded social media channels with fake followers.
1206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are the cryptocurrencies worth investing by 2023? on: August 16, 2023, 12:16:50 PM
this project is closer to scam or a failed project than being a project that can be invested in. It has a very large supply amount, 3000 M QNC. This number is very large, especially since 45% of the total tokens are for the developer team in one way or another, as the items What is in it, such as software development, admin, research and development, and legal aspects, all belong to the developers, and yet they count it as a separate item.

I did not find any research institution cooperating with this cryptocurrency (token) nor did I find details of the developer team as they use artificial intelligence generated images with anonymous names.

It's too good to be true or it could be a scam, stay away from it.

And then there's a fact that the whole homepage is down. And someone doing actual ICO these days is either out of touch, ignorant or just scamming people. And my guess would be the latter one. Telegram channel with 13 susbcribers and no activity, yet their pompous plan is use the token to "support the research and development of EV and hydrogen vehicles". Which is at the same time, a decent idea for some real funding organization that is prepared to get results in maybe 10 years.

But in this case it gave me a chuckle as they obviously have no idea what they are doing. But no one is preventing of thinking big i guess. But i want to be very clear that if this wasn't clear yet to someone that this is a scam.
1207  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io| 💸Buy-Sell BFG on BetFury | 🔥Fury Pharaoh - New In-house Slot on: August 16, 2023, 11:38:41 AM
Success of some altcoins don't entirely depend on the whether the company that built the token is generating money or not, it still very much depends on the type of community the project manages to build, and also another important factor is in the area of use-case, aside buying and selling the tokens, what other interesting things can investors decide to do with their token if they wanna spend it, but don't wanna sell it?  this is how most tokens gain good value in the market, it doesn't entirely depend on whether the company is generating income or not, for all i care, a company can be generating income and that income being generated wont have any positive effect on the tokens performance in the open market, this simply means the managers of the company are just enriching themselves, and careless about the performance of the token in the market.
It still matter on their money generated on their platform since for that they have a lot of money to use to create more use case of their token, also maybe they can use that for multiple marketing together with big exchange listing. Those factors are important to hype their followers and if they don't have enough money to support their project and let the staking feature only the use case maybe investors will get bored and leave the thoughts of acquiring this.
You are both correct. Most altcoins doesn't even want to "generate money". If their tokenomics have working game theory (tx system or something else), they could raise in value as a side effect by design. But most of them are not bringing dividends as that would immediately make them securities by the standards of howey test.

Value and future of BFG however solely depends on the casino income. It isn't like most of altcoins (or tokens, if we want to be specific).
1208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / SBF's brother wanted to buy Pacific island nation of Nauru for apocalypse bunker on: August 16, 2023, 11:21:57 AM
There's a weird story i totally missed in Sam Bankman-Fried's case, and that is the fact that the lawsuit against SBF, includes a memo that detailed plans to purchase a whole country with money from FTX to build a shelter that could withheld an apocalyptic event.

Now, one could argue there's more than one use cases for owning your own sovereign nation. Especially when the nation is already blacklisted internationally because of their blatant money laundering for super rich. If FTX (or sam) indeed managed to buy this island before it came cashing down, how much of different situation they would be facing right now?

Source:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/07/21/sam-bankman-frieds-brother-allegedly-wanted-to-buy-pacific-island-country-to-build-doomsday-bunker-for-effective-altruists/
1209  Economy / Economics / Re: What if the Satoshi (Sats), became the foundation of our economy? on: August 16, 2023, 11:14:46 AM
Greetings fellow Bitcoiners,

We live in a time where traditional financial systems are constantly being challenged, and Bitcoin is at the forefront of this revolution. But what if we take this a step further? Imagine a world where the most granular element of Bitcoin, a Satoshi, is not just a fractional part of Bitcoin but a fundamental building block of our entire economy.

Here's what I'm pondering:

- Form of Money: How might the transition from thinking of Sats merely as a fraction of Bitcoin to accepting it as a distinct form of money change our economic landscape?
- Stability: What would it take for a Sats-driven economy to achieve stability, considering the highly volatile nature of Bitcoin? Could it provide a steadier foundation than existing fiat currencies?
- Fair Value: Could Sats provide an equitable value system that transcends borders and economic disparities, creating a more just financial world?

I would love to hear your thoughts, ideas, and even reservations about this concept. Your insights may not only fuel an ongoing research project but could be part of shaping a future that we all have a stake in.

Remember, the most extraordinary ideas often seem unimaginable at first. Let's explore this together and see where it takes us.

Looking forward to your perspectives!

Best,
jspree
There's a reason why dollar isn't pegged to gold anymore. And for that same reason no country that actually has their economy working, would use bitcoin as their nation's currency. Money is good for fast liquidity, for something that holds it value rather stable. It is inflationary by design as if it would grow in value like bitcoin, or even just cutting the inflation, could break the whole economy. People would spend and invest less as it would be way safer just kept hoarding money, so there wouldn't be healthy flow of money that brings jobs and keeps economy alive.

Governments wouldn't have any buffer if for some emergency they would need it. And buffers like ability to print money, can prevent troubles, that without it could bring the country to total collapse. Nor governments have as much, or if any control as monetary system that they handle would be handled by someone else.

With growth of value, wage adjustements would be a mess, and hiring could end up being just too expensive There would be trade imbalance, mostly imported goods as producing anything in that country would become very expensive compared to anywhere else. And god knows what as i haven't really thought this trough. I am not an expert of any means yet i see more problems then upside.
1210  Economy / Economics / Re: Why are stable coins free from SEC ? on: August 16, 2023, 10:38:42 AM
Have anyone wonder why stable coins are safe all this while from Gensler and SEC, even the government? Why hasn't there any hunt on those centralized stablecoins? Is there something we don't know? Are stable coins somehow settled with the government and SEC behind the curtain?

Because if stable coins was target it will be a enormous hit to the whole crypto market, why haven't such thing happened yet? I also read where the former Binance.US said that the White House is trying to keep stable coins "out of discussions" like they know something.

Is this all about saving their USD? Or they are waiting to create CBDC successfully first before they go after stable coins?
Well this has nothing to do with cbdc's, as that's only new platform for digitalized usd (which people have been using since bank transactions), but one huge difference to altcoins, that comes in mind, is that you can't argue that usdt exists for making profit, which you can argue about altcoins and their marketing related to icos/idos/ieos or whatever. Obviously there are services that pay profit for holding usdt, but that's has nothing to do with Tether the company.

And one of the reasons SEC attacks to altcoins you can find from the Howey test, and that is under "3. With the expectation of profit"
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do wager affect outcomes in any provably fair games on: August 14, 2023, 05:23:33 PM
I noticed that when I start to play games like keno, limbo, dice, etc. First some bets don't hit and after wagering some percentage of my balance it starts to hit,
How it works? like when we wager we have more probability to hit win, anyone noticed this? Do you know how it works and what is the calculation behind it?, do server sends outcomes by checking our wager?

There's no such thing as a thing that we can connect the dots here between wagered amount and result.

Everything is random and we have to expect a result like that on a "luck-based game" obviously. House-edge rules, random algorithm rules, RTP-related rules, and everything. I also noticed your observation but it's just that, that's how the system should be supposed to work.

If the site is somehow reputable, expect that everything is fair and they won't do some sh*t to their users.
Funny enough that's what our brain does automatically anyway, it's trying to form patterns. It connects dots that aren't there and find meanings on patterns that doesn't have meanings. This is typical in luck based games that are totally random, when people desperately seek control to the outcome.

And especially when things are totally random, we often feel very much that some actions have some specific consiquences, that are just hard to pick up, but it seems like it's close. We can't help it. Even if we know we can't pick patterns from random, we are still unconsciously doing it because it's hard coded to us as a skill developed by evolution. Skill that our subconscious mind desperately needs to be applicable in what ever we do.
1212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Whitepaper just Buzz Word in Alt and Meme coins? on: August 14, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
Hi Friends,

I often come across Alt Coins and even meme coins showing white paper. IMO, they are absolutely ruining the meaning of Whitepaper, aren't they?

Some of them use it for showing Toeknomics, some of them show their Utilities & Use cases, some show Roadmap and Planning, and some show just Memes in the paper.

There are many Crypot New Enthusiasts who just jump into the Project as and when they see Website and Whitepaper link. Hardly check what is even inside!

Just wondering what is your take on it!
Yes, it's often either a colorful pamflet. And before AI texts they used to be generic plagiated texts with some changed words.
They are promising roi and all that nonsense, they have moronic tokenimics with unsustainable inflationary tokenomics or burning system that doesn't make sense.
And obviously nevest gimmick. Right now it's AI, before that NFT, Farming, De-FI, Metaverse etc...
And frankly i am sometimes afraid i am getting some 0day exploits just by opening them.

And yeah, "we are going to have a credit card". How original.

Or a roadmap saying stuff like listing to famous CEX. And it's always some fake volume site where they pay with gazillion tokens for joining, or dump the tokens and do buyin with actual cryptos. Sometimes they are even overly ambitious and claim how they change health care or banking and government types forever. When actually they couldn't be adopted to work in one single ice cream kiosk.

And then there are tech papers and difficult white papers. Those i try to understand but team is either bluffing with smoke and mirrors that can be spotted by other coders, or the tech paper is so hard to comprehend that you are not sure that in what level you should even respect it.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino Slot Streamers on: August 14, 2023, 03:45:23 PM
Here I found a list of Top 10 Casino Slot Streamers which includes Corinna Kopf ,Tyler Faraz Niknamm, Flávio Fernandes and many others.

Do you guys follow the casino streamers and are they fun to watch? Or do you think that playing casino slots yourself is more fun?

While these streamers may earn a good amount of money through streaming, they sometimes may become inspirational to the gamblers which may lead the normal gamblers to gamble more or become addicted too in some cases.

Thoughts Huh
I often wonder how much their own money they put in, before they could just gamble purely with sponsor deals and referral money. It's really hard for me to grasp that they would make a living with referral money as i never got but pennies from those. So does anyone know how bottom these guys are starting. I mean they probably buy views so they can get started.

I've watched live slot streamers and commented for bounty but that's about it. I doubt that anyone in the feed was watching them for free.

It would be a sweet to get tbh. As i love slots and talking nonsense while doing it wouldn't be that hard. Although i wouldn't like to show my face if they accepted an animated mask on it.
Also do they pay taxes from those? As they show their faces and all.
1214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Worldcoin launch with ORB to scan your eyes on: August 14, 2023, 03:36:20 PM
I am watching how things are going with this project and this whole story reminds me of another full-scale scam like onecoin or something similar. Regulators everywhere are paying attention to this altcoin, they come to the offices with searches and inspections, this is no longer a good sign and a red flag. At the same time, many people, stupefied by euphoria, are raring to carry their money into this dubious hype or are waiting for the price to drop in order to invest profitably.
Onecoin has actual investors, even though there were no blockchain or real value with it. This has just poor users selling their data for pennies. I doubt that anyone grasps why would be need this kind of online identity as this doesn't solve anything, nor it would get adopted.

But in a sense you are right, and that is the fact that this could be worse than onecoin. This could be a shitcoin that has actual smaöö value because speculators will trade anything, and that will lead more people rushing in.

Eventually this nonsense will crash down as team will be sued and being a famous ceo doesn't help when they are facing jailtime for privacy violations in epic scale.

That freaking orb still gives me a chuckle, it's like something out of a weird/bad scifi tv. Someone should do a gif of woody allen's "sleeper" where they had an orb party and make a meme about this.
1215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Free NFTs real or fake? on: August 14, 2023, 06:08:41 AM
if you think its too good to be true then its pure scam.
nobody is giving that much money for free, so i'm sure its just scam, of course there are actually many NFT being released nowadays for the sake of eligibility of airdrops in the future
like those new emerging blockchain that gives voyage NFT and being used for future purpose of airdrop qualification, but the thing is that in getting those NFT you are the ones that claims the NFT not just getting
sent some random NFT like this, moreover giving 1.5 ETH for free, no airdrop is giving away ethereum, at best its their token, so the conclusion is that its just blatant attempt of scamming just ignore it since there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
Well, not always, people do get airdrops occasionally, and sometimes they get worth way over that 1.5eth amount. But this thing OP posted was an obvious scam.

Op could have just googled it, as when people are getting rich from some airdrop, several medias are writing about it and even then people should double check the official urls and the follow the official method of claiming it. Anything else, or people pm:ing instructions is a 100% scam. Sadly people are falling for these and even if we are getting more idiot proof system, scammers will try to take an advantage on that. And this is nothing new, crypto wallet draining is just more advanced scam from the help desk / gift card scams.
1216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin name services and L2 on: August 13, 2023, 08:50:44 PM
Hello!

I am new at the forum but been in the space since 2017.

I wonder what you think of Bitcoin name services for example https://btc.us/ and also the L2-network Stacks that it runs on. I myself is invested in them a bit, not as much as in btc ofc. I believe they could take off hard if bitcoin makes new all time highs.
Well i don't get name services on eth, or in other altcoins either. I don't get how linking your pseudonymous account with some vanity string of letters is taking bitcoin anywhere. Or other altcoins. One strenght about the eth or any other account is that it's harder for just everyone to connect them to my online handles or real identity. Imho adding this kind of attention to oneself in a public network is basically asking for doxxing.

Maybe i don't just get the future implementations, but i can't see anything cool coming from this. Other than maybe some airdrops, but that's not really a tech developement.
1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: August 13, 2023, 08:38:59 PM
Well, let's wait until Elon Musk has made a recovery from the surgery he was rumoured to undergo preceding a training accident that got his shoulder, I think.
The fight is looking like it might hold sincerely speaking, because I also saw on Twitter (don't have a link) how one big promoter was asking around Rome, for the availability of the Colosseum as hosting ground for the fight.

I won't be holding my breath. Zuck is moving on and calling out Elon's bullshit.



Elon obviously isn't taking this this as seriously, and i don't think that anyone who has actually done any fighting is taking elon seriously. Someone like Joe rogan is too much of a fan to call elon's bluff out loud but i am thinking he would like to. As he definitely sees which way this is going.

1218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: August 13, 2023, 08:12:59 PM
If there is one thing that a person who won a lottery, he should step away from the crowd. Because for sure there will be free loader, all your families and relatives will be at your doorsteps every day. And if you refuse to help, they will say that you are arrogant and because of money, you have change a lot.

On the other hand, if you give everyone, then what will be left of you? That's why it's better to just get out of that block and just disappear for good, just saying. Sometimes it is the curse of winning in lottery.

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Believe it or not, statistics show 70% of lottery winners end up broke and a third go on to declare bankruptcy, according to the National Endowment for Financial Education. Runaway spending, toxic investments and poor accounting can burn through a lucrative windfall in next to no time. From (relative) rags to riches then back to rags again, read on for the stories of the lottery winners who found this out the hard way. All dollar values in US dollars.

https://www.lovemoney.com/galleries/64958/lottery-winners-who-won-millions-but-ended-up-with-nothing?page=1
What would i do? Let's assume that i would win that €600k, which would be tax free where i live and used local lottery. But 600k isn't going to last for too long here, as everything costs a lot anyway if i just spend it, so i would invest it. Some to crypto, some to stocks.

I most likely wouldn't buy house, because good ones would end up costing more then renting them. But i might rent a place from better location, nothing too fancy. And i would tell only to few closest friends that are not asking money from me. That's it. free €600k would change some things in my life, but i wouldn't consider myself rich. Maybe wealthy enough that i wouldn't need to worry about money.
1219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Free badge on Debank (Potential airdrop) on: August 13, 2023, 06:57:49 PM
Yeah nothing is ever 100% confirmed until the team announces it Cheesy

So what do you personally think? Would it still be worth time starting to mint those badges with my wallets in order to maybe get an airdrop. Or do you think that they have already snapshotted wallets that are eligble for airdrop? Give me your best guestimate. I might have several wallets that all qualify for many badges. I just always thought they would be just novelty items so not worth time i didn't do it earlier.
1220  Other / Politics & Society / Re: RFK Jr. Renews Demand For Secret Service Protection After Assassination Of ... on: August 13, 2023, 11:59:58 AM
Bioden has withheld protection so far...
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FYI it's Alejandro Mayorkas who determines who gets secret service protection, as he decides who qualifies as a major candidate (under the authority of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056). Not Biden

And funny how RFK jr sees, that assassination happening because of political climate, not because that candinate was going after organized crime organisation, bringing tighter regulations to corrupted government, while RFK jr is a nutjob comparing US to equador of all places, why not compare US to russia while he is on it.

And i wonder how Badecker of all people don't think that US secret service is somehow an ukraina-related operation as they have same colors in their flag. That kind of ridiculous mental acrobatics would be right on his alley.
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