iCEBREAKER, forget about that past.
The philippines already has the world messed up history and all those ruler didn't win any fight but negotiated to buy the country for thier own benifit. You didn't win a war. Didn't even win veitnam war. And US Navy can't get pass SouthChina Sea thats the reality now.
The US won the Spanish American War, which is why the Philippines had sovereignty in the first place. The US won WW2, which is why the Philippines recovered their sovereignty from the Imperial Japanese. The US won the Cold War, which is why the Philippines' sovereignty was not consumed by the PLA of Red China. I will not "forget about that past" because unlike Duterte I am not a savage cannibal hardly removed from the headhunters of the jungle. edit: The US Navy has no trouble passing the South China Sea. We will keep the shipping lanes open at any cost, because when nations stop trading they go to war. U.S. warship challenges China's claims in South China SeaOctober 21, 2016A U.S. navy destroyer sailed near islands claimed by China in the South China Sea on Friday, drawing a warning from Chinese warships to leave the area.
The U.S. action was the latest attempt to counter what Washington sees as Beijing's efforts to limit freedom of navigation in the strategic waters, U.S. officials said.
The Chinese Defense Ministry called the move "illegal" and "provocative," saying that two Chinese warships had warned the U.S. destroyer to leave.
The guided-missile destroyer USS Decatur challenged "excessive maritime claims" near the Paracel Islands, among a string of islets, reefs and shoals over which China has territorial disputes with its neighbors, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
U.S. officials have said they will continue such operations despite objections by Beijing.
"The U.S. Navy will continue to conduct routine and lawful operations around the world, including in the South China Sea, in order to protect the rights, freedoms and lawful uses of sea and airspace guaranteed to all. This will not change," Chief of Naval Operations Admiral John Richardson said during a trip to China in July. Perhaps you could try reading the news more, and spouting nonsense less?  |
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Polo had a bug... I just tried to set bids for NRG (he likes to get my money and buy something nice to him) but it ended up market buying despite I set the price below the spot...  Always reload the page before you buy/sell on Polo. /pro tip |
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Very poor decision if implemented. The US has always respected the Philippines, seeing it as a sovereign country, whereas China sees its neighbors as dwarfs, and doesn't respect them in any way.
More than that. The USA (once a colony of England) gave (on a silver platter) sovereignty to the Philippines after the Spanish American War. Then we repeated that performance after the Empire of Japan ignored their sovereignty and proceeded turning the country into New Okinawa. Now their demagogic authoritarian leader wants to become a vassal of Red China, despite PLA bases being build inside Philippine waters. The scale of ingratitude here is unfathomable. Perhaps the Japanese were right, and these savages have no right to, much less capacity for, self-determination. What happened to Duterte's balls since this happened? Did he cut them off and present them to Beijing as a token of fealty? Philippines' Duterte warns China of 'reckoning'August 24, 2016 The comments on yesterday's Yahoo thread are very informative and many state my position even better than I could myself. https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-xi-says-hopes-dutertes-visit-fully-improve-041807637.htmlU.S. and the West leaned on Duterte over extrajudicial killing of drug dealers so he goes to China and Russia so he can continue the practice without being criticized.
Duterte just sold out his country to China. Say goodbye to all of your fishing rights. They now belong to China. Watch the inflation rate jump because he now has agreed to buy everything from China. What a little sorry sad little dog. That's about the size of his brain.
The US always helps the Philippines after these yearly typhoons, handing out medical care, food, whatever is needed. I would say it is up to Duterte's newest best buddies, the Chinese, to fill that roll now.
I think they will find that China is not used to helping anyone but themselves.
The US needs to set a new bar when it comes to foreign relations and alliances. If a country can't be a true and reliable partner, then we should let go and send them adrift. The days of countries taking the good that comes with an alliance only to slap us in the face when they think a better opportunity is at hand needs to end. Chine WILL build a military base on Scarborough if the Philippines doesn't quickly develop a spine. Giving up territory in exchange for some railroad lines and other Chinese investment is like the American Indian exchanging land for glass beads. If the Philippines wants to align themselves with two of the most untrustworthy nations of the world, I say adios.
The question: does the USA really need the Philippines. The answer is resoundingly NO. The Filipinos kicked the U.S. out of Subic Bay and Clark airbase 25 years ago, and that was a big deal. Meanwhile the Philippines has been the benefactor of U.S. aid, disaster relief following typhoons, and training in counter terror against Abu Sayyaf. Time now for benign neglect.
Lets stop all aid, stop all importing of goods, pull out our military bases (not really needed there in this day and age anyway) and bolster relations around them. We give these country's billion in aid and purchase of goods, and time and time again they can't wait to #$%$ on us.
I hope we make an example out of them and let them enjoy life under the rule of China.
The only one losing here is the Filipino people...Their bufoonish leader threw them under the bus, groveling at the feet of the savage Chinese..giving up the PI's Sovereignty for a few shekels and telling their largest & most generous ally to get lost. No more aid to the PI, no more military assistance, no more nothing! What did the US get from the PI? NOTHING Not a thing! adios! No more welfare for those fools....
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Killing people is not a solution to solve the problem. Arrest first the victim, give
them a chance to change. Every person has deserve for a second chance.
There are cases when a person is useless to correct. This is the situation with drug addicts and drug dealers. They do not fix it, they did a lot of evil. The difficulty in rehabilitating drug addicts and dealers is caused by the context of Prohibition. End Prohibition, and you no longer have the perverse incentives which entrench and exacerbate "the situation with drug addicts and drug dealers." Please note all of the arguments being presented for the current cannibalistic authoritarian police state, which destroys the rule of law and provides cover to persecute political opposition, are of the utilitarian type, IE "hurr durr durr at least the trains run on time." I don't believe all the citizens of .ph are so stupid as to believe trading liberty for security is desirable outcome. Many of them are capable of abstract, critical thought, which leads them to the low time preferences necessary to reject simplistic, feel-good, short term solutions, no matter how satisfyingly visceral it is to see Bad Guys (including addicted+dealing street children) murdered without due process or opportunity for reform and redemption.  "Sorry kids. You never had a chance in life and now must die as sacrifices to the God of The State and the Idol of Prohibition."And these people savages dare to call themselves Christian. How many shabu addicted minors would Jesus murder, for the sake of overturning the laws of economic via Prohibition? |
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I am not getting the point of UNLIMITED BITCOIN , can you please elaborate more. The point of BU is to 1. signal your high purity Gavinista virtue via opposition to Core, segwit, etc. 2. troll GMAX Don't worry about it, Unlimiturd will be REKT just like XT, Classic, and all the other lulzy, contentious (IE impossible) hard forks. |
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Lol stupid douchebags bringing facts and numbers into arguments. Wtf amirite?
The DashHoles have a name for "bringing facts and numbers into arguments." They call it "trolling." |
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It doesnt matter for me if monero is a company or not. I talk about naked marketing for the increase of value (isn't this why most are here  ). If we want to have a wide acceptance of monero people have to know that monero is existant and about it's benefits. It is totally preposterous and dubios to claim that monero needs no marketing. Beside the fact that marketing was and is already a part of Monero. But it is expendable. I really dont understand why some people here are ignoring totally basic factors and than wonder why we haven't had a price explosion. Marketing is a key function for success. Most people here are holding monero because they hope its somewhen more valueable as today. To believe monero itself will do this job is simply wrong. Ah so, now you've bought in you're an expert on these things? Why don't we cut the crap and get to the bottom of your problem:- You want the Monero price to rise because you've bought back in, and guess what, let's throw some mutha fucking marketing into the equation to help N-rG with his profits, so that hopefully one day, he can cash out and dump all over the community/noobs with lashings of evangelical FUD. I guess you must be new here. Let me tell you what I see:- I see a coin that has gone from nothing, and fiercely defended itself against other projects that have the luxury of unlimited treasuries as a consequence of scammy premines and instamines complete with all the fucking PR in the world, and won every single battle regardless. I see a coin that has been routinely censored by a scammy corporate conspiracy of colluding interests who have tried at every turn to push the scams into the limelight at the expense of the Monero project and it's community. I see a coin that has gone from nothing only to become the third biggest cryptocurrency in the scene. A coin that is now 5th or 6th on the marketcap, and one of three similar projects to be on StackExchange. I see a coin that had no treasury, and no funny business; only an egalitarian genesis, and a commitment to make it work whatever the odds. I see a coin that is routinely providing much trade volume for speculation, and has the volatility for serious profit. I see a coin that is politically disruptive without comparison; the single best trustless untraceable blockchain in existence. And all of this has been achieved without a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of. Why do we need marketing when we are winning? Everything that we have done thus far has been WIN. Why change that? Just for your profits no doubt? Let me know when we start to lose, and then maybe we can start to think about finding an Amanda B Johnson clone to push in front of a camera.  An outstanding exposition; very well said Sir. It is indeed absurd to entertain the notion that Monero lacks a "price explosion" and/or is losing, as I play with 6 digits of house money on Poloniex. But in the event Monero does need (shudder) marketing, I hereby nominate @BraveTheWorld to be our (most ideal potential) Scamanda B. Johnson analogue. Your Hydra hasn't expressed any support or even awareness of Monero, yet she fully groks the crypto-revolutionary ethos+logos+pathos and if we Mustangs cannot get her on board we must pause and reconsider where our most noble cause went awry. If Monero does earn her support and we are able to facilitate consequent joint marketing efforts, I anticipate we shall quickly gain a following among the Sovereign Individual Rees-Mogg crowd whose patronage I anticipated being an ideal fit for the lovely community here at Monero Mountain. |
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It's a huge shame for the western countries to talk about human rights in Philippines. What the hell were they doing when the human rights of millions of people were being compromised due to those terrorists and drug lords and the lives of young people destroyed by them.
Yes its true just because they have the money then they do what they want to do for his own interest to make the Philippines forever there puppet. It is ashame to us to be puppet of this lapdogs american people. I hope that someday philippines will be an independent foreign policy. Which we can take it for better progress of our country. The narco-terror and the fortunes of the drug lords are created by Prohibition. How can you live in 2016 and not understand such basic economic facts? The Philippines can be America's lap dog, as it was Spain's before, or it can be China's. You don't get to be a Big Dog until you learn to respect the rule of law and stop the populist cheerleading for extrajudicial mass murder. Pro tip: If anyone can surpass the cruelty of the Imperial Japanese, it's the Chinese PLA. Now be a good lap dog and stop biting the hand that feeds you. Yeah? Weren't US the lap dog of China? Too bad the huge guys are just beaten by the Chinese. We don't expect you to understand economic colonization because you were all under them without realizing it. Petrodollar hegemony still rules the world, and will endure so long as the US Navy rules the sea, the US Army the land, and the USAF the sky and heavens. I like how your deflection, which you provide in lieu of an on-point response, fails to even mention the Philippines.  The 1980s called, and want back their "zomg economic colonization" rhetoric, because they already went through that with the whole "zomg the Japanese are buying Pebble Beach and Rockefeller Center" spiel. You must be too young to remember that.... Please stop living in a fantasy world where a poor, backward, internally divided island nation is Entitled to do anything other than be subject to the great powers surrounding it. Once upon a time, people were grateful to be liberated from the merciless Imperial Japanese, then kept safe from the genocidal Red Army. Again, you must be too young to remember that.  That early afternoon of October 20, 1944, MacArthur and his party must have indeed looked awe-inspiring and larger than life. Far more than a moment in history, it was a moment of intense human emotion and a promise fulfilled. Indeed, which Filipino has not heard of MacArthur’s immortal words of “I shall return?” With Filipinos and American troops sustaining heavy losses in the war with the Japanese during MacArthur’s absence of over two years, I can only imagine what must have been running through their minds and hearts when MacArthur set foot again on Philippine soil and helped them end the Japanese occupation.Now let's get back on topic. Duterte The Headhunter is a savage cannibalistic beast, not a statesman. He uses "drug addict" as a code word to demonize the disenfranchised, derelict, undesirable people least able to raise themselves out of poverty, much less defend themselves from his demagogic rabble-rousing inspired lynch mobs. He should be ending Prohibition and directing resources to rehabilitate addicts, especially homeless children, not telling everyone it's time to Purge The Weak. Even worse, he's cozying up to the Butchers of Beijing even as they make the phrase "Filipino Sovereignty" a joke by by building military bases on what used to be lovely coral atolls. I guess he likes the cut of their jib, given how the PLA handled those pro-democracy scumbags at Tienanmen Square. Duterte wishes to make his country a vassal state of Red China, despite court rulings to the contrary. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines_v._China and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal_standoffWhat a cuck! |
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If they can sell.
Liquidity on the bid side of things has not ever looked very consistent above say 800-1000 BTC for very long. Now it is at ~300btc or less.
How can one sell if there is not much liquidity to sell into?
Race for the exits is in Dash's future at some point. It is like a roach motel of crypto, you check in but you don't check out (if you do you were one of the lucky ones) You're only looking at exchanges. Most of the significant trades (including $100,000 +) don't happen on exchanges, they are OTC trades where there is plenty of liquidity. Exchanges modulate the prices at which OTC trades occur, so smoothie's point about the upcoming Dash To The Exit stands untouched. Your deflection about "muh significant OTC trades" fails to dispute, much less account for, the collapsing bid side smoothie noted. Do you have any evidence for your assertions that 1) "most" significant trades don't happen on exchanges, and 2) there is plenty of liquidity in OTC trades? |
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We Westerners are going down and you Asians are coming up. Stop trying to please us. Do what you want.
Some Asians are coming up. The smart high-K ones, who possess the cultural carrying capacity required to maintain a civic society. On the other hand, the high-R, low IQ savages who maintain superstitious fears about botanical extracts and in their name commit extrajudicial mass murder? They will always be the slaves/maids/whores of those from countries where concepts like due process are more honored, respected, and cherished. |
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It's a huge shame for the western countries to talk about human rights in Philippines. What the hell were they doing when the human rights of millions of people were being compromised due to those terrorists and drug lords and the lives of young people destroyed by them.
Yes its true just because they have the money then they do what they want to do for his own interest to make the Philippines forever there puppet. It is ashame to us to be puppet of this lapdogs american people. I hope that someday philippines will be an independent foreign policy. Which we can take it for better progress of our country. The narco-terror and the fortunes of the drug lords are created by Prohibition. How can you live in 2016 and not understand such basic economic facts? The Philippines can be America's lap dog, as it was Spain's before, or it can be China's. You don't get to be a Big Dog until you learn to respect the rule of law and stop the populist cheerleading for extrajudicial mass murder. Pro tip: If anyone can surpass the cruelty of the Imperial Japanese, it's the Chinese PLA. Now be a good lap dog and stop biting the hand that feeds you. |
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Drug individuAls kiling and raping kids and you call it public health issues? You must be kidding.
Look how responsible the churches in the philippines. You go out from their churches and you see beggars and street kids wearing nothing, isn't that their responsibility to take care of the church members? Don't they all call everyone "brothers"? Shouldn't these poeple treAt them brothers as well?
I'm sorry you find freedom and liberty so terrifying you want a White Knight to save you from it. Do you even understand how Prohibition inevitably leads to black markets, violence, and corruption? It appears you do not. I didn't mention "kiling and raping kids." That's just your hyperbolic bloody shirt waving appeal to emotion. Please get a grip and stay on topic. I said only a savage would find "extrajudicial murder a reasonable response to the public health issues created by poverty and Prohibition" and I stand by that statement. You need to learn to comprehend what has actually been written, not just what you believe I wrote. If you are so afraid of Bad Guys you are willing to abandon the rule of law and due process, you will be ruled by Bad Guys and richly deserve all that entails. God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." (Genesis 1:29-31) |
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Can the president of the Philippines can do it. Well I like what his doing in his campaign. It is very amazing program and very work program in the country. Many were discipline now because of him.
Prohibition always fails. You can't fight the invisible hand of the free market. You may try, but you will inevitably lose to the laws of supply and demand. Only the weak minded, and the corrupt politicians who exploit them, support such simplistic, economically illiterate solutions. The government is not God. It cannot perform miracles such as magically making people stop growing/selling/buying/using the botanical products they prefer. Only a superstitious Devil-fearing primitive culture, such as Puritan America 100 years ago or the Catholic Philippines in 2016, would seriously consider extrajudicial murder a reasonable response to the public health issues created by poverty and Prohibition. I hope the cavemen and bluenoses in Manila stew in their moral panic until it cooks them all to death. |
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I'm sticking with my choice of David Kendall. His big powerful law firm cronies were in charge of deciding which Hillary's emails should be classified. This group was referred to by FBI agents as "The Shadow Government." http://nypost.com/2016/10/17/the-state-departments-shadow-government/News that a top State Department official discussed a “quid pro quo” in exchange for the FBI changing the classification of a Hillary Clinton e-mail is shocking enough. But word that the coterie of State officials who controlled the release of the e-mails is called itself “The Shadow Government” is mind-blowing.
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The FBI also released the summary of an interview that revealed a cabal at State that oversaw the e-mail release — a “powerful group of very high-ranking STATE officials that some referred to as ‘The 7th Floor Group’ or at ‘The Shadow Government.’ This group met every Wednesday afternoon to discuss . . . everything CLINTON-related to FOIA/Congressional inquiries.” |
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What are the next big things ahead of dash?
First, legal opinions indicating (THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. D.B.A.) Dash is operating an unregistered and unlicensed Money Services Business. Second, fun with the SEC, as they discover Dash's "Masternode" investment instrument fails the Howey Test and thus constitutes an illegal security. |
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Apple have their own payment system will they kill it by promoting any crypto?
Bitcoin and Monero compete with central banks, gold, and cash, not ApplePay and Visa. DASH can barely support a single soda machine, much less threaten Apple's and Paypal's money services businesses. Wake me up when the Paypal app is banned like DASH from the iOS store, then that far-fetched excuse will be less implausible. The simple explanation is Apple rejected DASH not because of generic crypto properties (disruption, privacy) but due to DASH's uniquely scummy problems like The Insta-Mine, centralized control, illegal Masternode HYIP, and self-promotion as an unregistered MSB. |
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After their removal of DASH, one could have thought that they were against anonymous coins. But Icebreaker was right: it is probably the financial structure of the DASH DAO and which put them off, given that Monero is more anonymous than DASH and is now accepted (apparently). Never mind Monero, even good old Bitcoin is more anonymous than DASH, so the "Apple hates our great privacy" excuse from the Dash cult enforcers didn't make sense. Apple's problems with DASH are obviously more along the lines of the Instamine, centralized control, Madoffnodes, and stated intention to become a Visa-like DuffPay money services business. |
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I think apple will also reject monero as dash and monero both seem to be more anonymous than bitcoin. They don't like the things that may put them in legal problem later on. They will never understand or support the anonymity for sure including other big corporations tied by government rules and big banks.
and yes monero seems to going back home... but hey you can expect to use the same crypto currency for drugs & computer hardware right ? ^^ Apple accepted Monero on Jaxx. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/56xrpn/anthony_diiorio_on_twitter_great_news_for_monero/Apple rejected Dash because it's a scam, not because of Darksend's broken Coinjoin implementation. |
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Should I add an option to vote Podesta?
He seems to the the point of contact for "wet works" that take out inconveniently pro-Constitution USSC justices...
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