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1261  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 13, 2019, 01:26:12 AM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013) Currently under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
mBet.io C- (2017)

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)
1xbit.com D (2016)
1262  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 12, 2019, 09:34:46 PM
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a procedure provided by any bookmakers.

Not any. For ex. nitrogen didn't request KYC.

Betting on sportsbet.io is betting with risk and I think that "C" or "D" rate is reasonable.  
friend, I'm a bettor who plays big stakes and the first thing I do with any bookmakers is the verification of my identity, and only after I make my first deposit. The betting market is a dangerous sector because criminals sail us. And do not deposit even a cent / satoshi in book that do not comply with the international standards for anti-money laundering and anti-terrorism.
Finally, in the sports betting sector, there is no authority that guarantees reliable and impartial ratings on bookmakers

Many books with KYC go under. KYC isn't for player protection. Books don't have a right to hold our funds unless they are under court order. Sportsbet.io holds a sub-licence in Curacao. For all intents and purposes, they aren't worried about money laundering. Even if they are worried by AML/KYC laws, there's no reason to put yourself in the position of being falsely accused of money laundering and the hassles that go with it. The money laundering excuse is used as a reason to confiscate our money.

1263  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 12, 2019, 06:11:20 PM
txxhekobeuberxxx has been bad. It's still recommended to only play at "A" rated books at this time.
Feedback is not updated. txxhekobeuberxxx has been paid.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4040
I bring to the attention that in almost all cases, these were players who had not done the identity verification procedure, a procedure provided by any bookmakers.
I apologize as I meant to say "paid" instead of "bad".
1264  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 12, 2019, 06:09:52 PM
txxhekobeuberxxx has been bad. It's still recommended to only play at "A" rated books at this time.
Feedback is not updated. txxhekobeuberxxx has been paid.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4040
I bring to the attention that in almost all cases, these were players who had not done the identity verification procedure, a procedure provided by any bookmakers.
As dis93 pointed out, some books don't ask for KYC. It's rare that Nitrogen, Betcoin or Bitcoinrush will ask for any KYC information.
1265  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 12, 2019, 06:08:27 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)


Glad to see you keeping up your posts, although Nitro definitely was not at all around in 2012. I am sure of that. They opened in 2013.
Thanks. I'll check in with Nitrogen.
1266  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 12, 2019, 10:56:42 AM
txxhekobeuberxxx has been paid. It's still recommended to only play at "A" rated books at this time.

edit- meant paid.
1267  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 11, 2019, 05:33:48 PM
txxhekobeuberxxx
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Guys, I just found this forum and I am so sad that I just found it.

I also deposited at Sportsbet yesterday. I wagered 0,6 BTC and won about 0,3 BTC.
Now I had 0,9 BTC on my account but I could not withdraw them.
I was a bit worried, because this was totally new to me. I use Sportsbet a lot and I already lost a lot but whenever I won small amounts at least the withdraw worked. However, now that I actually won something bigger I could not withdraw.

I had to send them an Email and they told me that I should send an Email to "security@sportsbet.io". I did just that but got an automatic response and they did not even read my email. They wanted KYC documents. I asked them, what happens, in case I don't want to send my KYC documents. They ignored me and even kicked me out of Live-Chat. I can understand that they need KYC but for some people among us it's not possible. For me personally I don't want anybody to know that I gamble a lot. In our social circle it's not looked to good upon.
It is however totally legal to gamble from my country!

Now I can't reach their support chat as they kicked me out and blocked me. I asked them multiple times, if my winnings are safe but none of the times they answered. They just kicked me out of the chat.


I will keep you guys updated.


But for now please be extra careful with Sportsbet and don't use it or else you will end up like me with 3000$ blocked from you



Update 1: I asked them twice through Email, if they will just keep my funds if I don't want to send them my documents. Both times I get a response that I have to send my documents now. Nothing else. They don't even read what I sent.
Before getting kicked out of the chat I was told that my funds are safe and they will solve this quickly but then they do this.


This site is exit-scamming. I am 100% sure.

I will keep you guys updated.
1268  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 10, 2019, 04:38:06 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013) Currently under maintenance.

"C" rated books
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
mBet.io C- (2017)

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
sportsbet.io D+ (2016)
1xbit.com D (2016)
1269  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 10, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Sportsbet.io lowered to "D+". There have been an increase in complaints recently. This coupled with a forum representative not being active since December 29th are not good signs. Shortly after the Super Bowl is a popular time for books to go under.

This rating will be revisited shortly after the SB. If you are having problems at Sportsbet, please post problems here and inquiries will be made to Sportsbet.
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 10, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
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I'm a little bit bothered by this one. I've also read an accusation to sportsbet.io before (I'm sorry if I can't find the link of the post anymore) about the same issue that they do not let their customer cash out after winning and deactivating his account at the same time. I just ignore that post before because I thought it was an isolated case but now it seems not because another complainant revealed.  Actually I'm planning to try this gambling site to start my gambling journey but I guess I will stop. Whether it is proven scam or not, it doesn't matter anymore. I'll avoid this one just to be safe.

If they're really aren't let their customers to make cash out then why they are running by months already? Silly issues are just being made to mislead players. You might not know that his account is an alt and continuously make a fishy accusation out of sportsbet.io. Like what I have said, if this were to be true there will be tons of complains all over here. Not just one or two.

As for this guy, I suggest to try FORTUNE JACK. or ChipMixer or even 777Coin.

I don't want to turn this into a bash sportsbet thread so I'll post a link to their thread with current problems.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4020

Ignoring current problems, my original issue with sportsbet is their high margins.
On using up sportsbet even up to these days I haven't experienced any problems so far and hope I wont really face it soon.They do really have complaints
nor issues and even the top reputable ones isn't excluded on this matter. They are still running upto these days which means there are still lots of players or bettors do
trust them.
Here are the "F" books that stopped paying players. Many books go under and red flags go up prior to this happening. A sportsbet rep hasn't been around BCT for over a week. As of this time, I agree that 95% of the bettors haven't had a problem with sportsbet. Even if they paid out 100% of their players, their odds are too high to have a reasonable chance to win.

In the rating's guide, "A" and "B" rated books have never gone under but many "C" and "D" books have gone under.


"F" rated books
Anybet.eu ..........................accepting deposits will unpaid players
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits with unpaid players. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposit with unpaid players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with unpaid players
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits with unpaid players
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits with unpaid players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
Powerbet F (2016) ............................accepting deposits with unpaid players.


1271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 10, 2019, 04:02:22 PM
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<snip>
I'm a little bit bothered by this one. I've also read an accusation to sportsbet.io before (I'm sorry if I can't find the link of the post anymore) about the same issue that they do not let their customer cash out after winning and deactivating his account at the same time. I just ignore that post before because I thought it was an isolated case but now it seems not because another complainant revealed.  Actually I'm planning to try this gambling site to start my gambling journey but I guess I will stop. Whether it is proven scam or not, it doesn't matter anymore. I'll avoid this one just to be safe.

If they're really aren't let their customers to make cash out then why they are running by months already? Silly issues are just being made to mislead players. You might not know that his account is an alt and continuously make a fishy accusation out of sportsbet.io. Like what I have said, if this were to be true there will be tons of complains all over here. Not just one or two.

As for this guy, I suggest to try FORTUNE JACK. or ChipMixer or even 777Coin.

I don't want to turn this into a bash sportsbet thread so I'll post a link to their thread with current problems.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4020

Ignoring current problems, my original issue with sportsbet is their high margins.
1272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 10, 2019, 04:41:33 AM
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Stay away from sportsbet.io
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:45 pm

Do not use sportsbet.io! They will claim you are using their site for mixing and steal your money!

Just some background. I am normally on nitrogensports or cloudbet for sports betting and coinroyale or fortunejack for the card games. Sometimes, I like to try other sites to test see what else is out there. Don't get me wrong, nitrogensports and cloudbet are great sites, but its good to try out other casinos to see what else is out there. Over a week ago, I thought I'd give sportsbet.io a try to expand my options, so I sent about 1.2 btc over from a couple of accounts and placed a couple of bets. It was fine, but it wasn't as user friendly as either nitrogen or cloudbet, the user interface isn't as nice, and I wasn't used to betting in mBTC. I decided to keep around .35 btc in my sportsbet.io wallet and withdraw .85 btc to my nitrogensports account to play there. Like I said, I just wanted to expand my options a little I still planned on keeping the .35 btc because they have some nice things about it and they may improve in the future. Nitrogen and cloudbet are still my primary casinos, but I thought I'd leave the door open for this one like I did for others.

After submitting a withdrawl of .85, I recieved a message saying "Wagering requirement of at least 5 (five) times the deposit amount before making a withdrawal." I though this had to be some sort of mistake because I have never experience anything like this on any bitcoin gambling site I used in the past and I've used many different sites over the past 9 month. It made no sense to me that I had to spend more than my initial deposit in order to withdraw, let alone 5x the amount. I contacted sportbet.io support through the chat and the agent told me that I that they'd look into it and eventually accused me of using the site as a mixer, which was the reason for the withdrawl being declined. She told me that I would be recieving an email from their security department with instructions on how I could get my money back. I did not recieved the email after the first day, so I logged back on to see what is going on. I chatted with another person who said that the email was sent and they would send another. Again, I would recieve no email. I even sent them an email, but they claimed they did not recieve it but they said give it time. A week later, I go to check my account and there still is no email. I returned to the site to see what is going on after not recieving any message from them and the person I chatted with insisted it was sent even though I did not get a message. They kept telling me to respond to this phantom email and told me they couldn't discuss the matter over the chat because it is insecure. Eventually, they pasted the contents of this supposed email to the chat and told me to follow the instructions on it. Basically, they wanted all of my personal information and would not let me withdraw my money until they got all of it.

Sportsbet.io wanted me to give them my IP address, a picture of my drivers lisense (front and back), and a bill with my name and address on it. Now, I've had my personal information stolen before and it was fucking hell to deal with. I will be damned if I give up all of that information to some online casino I know nothing about and has no way of being accounted for. I will not give that information up so my identity can be stolen again and sold online to god knows who. The funny thing is that I asked the support person for their personal information and the physical location of their company and security department, but they would not even tell me that. It is NOT Curacao as stated on their site. And they would not even tell me what country because of "security issues". They are probably in EU, middle east or southeast asia.They kept pressing me for my personal information and I refuse because I don't know what they intend to do with it because I don't know who they are and there is no way for me to trust them because there is no accountability. How can I trust a company with my personal information if they will not even tell me what country they are located in? They refuse to tell me and they refuse to elaborate on why it would be such a security risk. I would lose more time and money if my identity were stolen than the 1.2 btc they've essentially stolen from me. I make plenty of money so I can absorb that loss. This message is for those who can't and a warning to big gamblers out there. STAY AWAY FROM SPORTSBET.IO. Fuck them if they think I'm stupid enough to give them all that personal information. Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous and so is gambling with bitcoin. Stick to an online casino that respects that and STAY AWAY FROM SPORTSBET.IO.
https://forum.bitcoin.com/gambling/stay-away-from-sportsbet-io-t12661.html
1273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 10, 2019, 04:35:31 AM
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We regularly read other forums in order to find irregularities and accusations of scams aimed at other bitcoin sportsbook, poker rooms and casinos. Recently we came across this disturbing thread of a SportsBet.io customer who had 21.5 BTC stolen from him by SportsBet.io. The poster deposited 15 BTC at SportsBet.io and won an additional 6.5 BTC but when he tried to withdraw his account was suspended and they demand he go though a KYC/AML procedure. After supplying the KYC documents, they shut his account and kept both the 15 BTC and the 6.5 BTC he won.

A representative from SportsBet.io confirmed that "Regardless the nature of Bitcoin payments as a regulated operator we are obliged to ID verification, KYC and AML (anti-money laundering) procedures by the regulator at certain withdrawal levels."

How many people actually go though the Terms & Conditions when they sign-up with crypto currency at gambling sites? The expectation is that you will be allowed to remain anonymous at bitcoin-only sportsbooks and will not have to go though a KYC and AML procedure.

If bitcoin gambling operators require KYC/AML, we think they should be upfront and tell players before they deposit. For this reason, we are warning our readers that SportsBet.io is a "Possible Scam"

1274  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 08, 2019, 03:38:12 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A (2013)
bitcoinrush.io A- (2013)

"B"rated books
jetwin.ps B- (2013) Currently under maintenance.

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
mBet.io C- (2017)

"D" rated books
cloudbet.com D+ (2013)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
1xbit.com D (2016)

"F" rated books
Anybet.eu ..........................accepting deposits will unpaid players
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits with unpaid players. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposit with unpaid players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with unpaid players
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits with unpaid players
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits with unpaid players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
Powerbet F (2016) ............................accepting deposits with unpaid players.
1275  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 08, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
It's highly recommended to stay with the top books at this time of the year. Shortly after the Super Bowl is the most popular time for books to go under without paying players.
1276  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 08, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
https://www.betcoin.ag/parlay-promo-back-12-btc-guaranteed-prizes-new-rules

https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-increase-live-and-pre-match-betting-limits

1277  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 08, 2019, 03:15:39 AM
Books - if you have a promo, feel free to post it or shoot me a PM. Those are fine to post as long as they aren't repetitive.
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 07, 2019, 07:02:42 PM
Nitrogen sports used to be the most popular here. Now I guess Sportsbet.io has overtaken the race and is the most trusted now. Cloudbet was a bit shady in the past but got good reviews nowadays.

A problem with sportsbet.io is that their margins are unplayable. They have the highest hold of all sportsbooks. The other problem that they are having is with KYC.
1279  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: January 05, 2019, 02:03:16 AM
Hi,

I'm encountering problems with my jetwin account where logging-in isn't possible with the following error on 31 Dec 2018:
https://i.imgur.com/tYJ3HBF.jpg

My balance in the account was slightly over $1,000 with all of my winnings coming from their live casino games. I maintained a huge bankroll there to martingale.
My last successful withdrawal from jetwin was on 30th Dec 2018, then all of the sudden on 31 Dec 2018, I couldn't log-in anymore.

I have emailed them on 31 Dec 2018 and they replied me this yesterday:
https://i.imgur.com/9kwwyq5.png

Yesterday I emailed them to ask of any updates but until today they didn't respond Sad



I've contacted Jetwin. Please send a PM with permission to look into your account. I'll contact them again. Thanks

Jetwin will be back up at the end of January.
1280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on: January 04, 2019, 09:30:06 AM
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