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1321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 20, 2022, 05:06:32 PM
Expected a bit more from Team Spirit, did not think we would loose them on first day of knockout stages. Second biggest surprise after EG for me.
I did not expect it as well, but it is what it is. Boom is just giving their all to stay alive in this tournament.

The exit interview of Mira is so sad. The team has not recovered yet from Russia's attack, and they lose their confidence. That is maybe they are very shaky this year, especially in TI.

132K Gold lead for Entity at some point ...with a Game time of 107:02  Shocked The longest Dota 2 game in history of TI. Now , I don't think there is a counter draft to Zoo Draft , right ? I mean Underlord with Lesh and ES are kinda the entire hero pool that counters that draft and yet these 3 heroes were not enough...so I was thinking maybe Seer should have been instead of Lich ? Because he could have scale towards a carry-support in this game. Then we had AA from Entity with 2 Rapiers....like wow and wtf on the same time because we know AA is mega scary with dmg and aghs on it but also double edge item in an elimination game. For me this was the best game so far as a single mistake could have cost you the game. Shocked
Damn, sounds like I missed a historic one Smiley Never seen something like that so maybe this will be first time in my life to watch a replay of some Esports game, probably gonna skip over some parts, who has extra 107 minutes to loose, but I have to see that AA with double rapiers.

I missed that game as well. I was watching it but was not able to finish. Is that the longest game in TI history?

I watched the highlight and at some point, Underlord Fiend's Gate his whole team to break the ancient to force a win and they almost got it. They tried it multiple times but Entity was able to defend.

I guess the teddy bears do not want to go home yet but Entity sent them packing.

1322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 20, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
I do believe that Team Spirit will not be knocked out of the competition this early. They were knocked out to the bottom bracket last year as well in the first round of the upper bracket matches but they persevere, made it to the finals, and beat LGD. They are taking it one step further though this year. They are starting at the very bottom, BO1 elimination with Boom Esports. Boom showed resilience in the group matches and was able to snatch the last slot of the bottom bracket, but I think their journey will end this time against Team Spirit. Due to a large hero pool of Team Spirit, Boom will have a hard time figuring them out. And in a BO1 situation, that is very scary.
I'm also leaning on Team Spirit to advance against Boom just because of their experience and they nearly got a map against all teams but we'll see which team could surprise us.

I was wrong, it is painful to see them leave this early, but Boom was surprisingly resilient in keeping their ticket alive. They just keep on denying the odds. Others are right when they said is Boom is strong against top teams and they prove it today. They have eliminated the defending champion from TI. If they really are strong against strong teams, they still have lots to slain because top teams keep falling from the underdogs. EG and LGD are now in the lower bracket. Can Boom esports slay another heavy favorite in their next match? This time they are against PSG.LGD.

Secretober is here and PSG stood no chance against them. Even more than this , Puppey still has hidden strategies for this TI which is simply insane after how many game Secret played so far.

They are just on a roll. The addition of Crystallis and Reso on the team proves to be profitable to them. They were lucky they were able to pick up Reso in Riyadh, now they are reaping the fruits of their decision to make him an official member of Secret.

Really suprised to see EG losing and losing without taking a map.

Yeah, right? I did not have the chance to watch the game but it is really surprising. After dominating the group stage, they fallen to the lower bracket. They are not out yet though, they can still claw their way back to finals but it will be a lot of pressure. Every series now will be elimination series for EG.
1323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESPORTS - predictions and tips (Dota 2, CS:GO, LoL) on: October 20, 2022, 09:29:48 AM
Very unexpected beggining of the playoffs for the some teams.

Evil Geniuses falling 0-2 to heavy underdogs Thunder Awaken.

Top favourites for the championship, PSG.LGD losing to Secret with 0-2.

Upset keep filing up as Team Spirit was knocked out by Boom Esports from TI. This first day of Main event is very upsetting, I do not know if I can still take it. My bets are bleeding really hard.

Favorites keep falling. I thought EG and LGD losing 0-2 was upsetting already then, I watched Team Spirit get demolished by Boom on a BO1 elimination game. Boom who I least expect to come out of the group stage because they were at the bottom until the last day of the group stage, sent the defending champion home. Congratulations to Boom, keeping their ticket alive and representing SEA in TI. 1% is still alive.

I thought Team Spirit will set a record to get the Aegis coming from the lowest bracket but no. Instead, they set the record for the earliest exit of the defending champ. What a disappointment.
1324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 19, 2022, 02:24:56 PM
The game between the Celtics and 76ers was another exciting one. I'm happy James Harden is feeling good and he seems back to his old game. Embiid should limit his 3 points attempts. I believe they will improve more in their next games. Kudos to the Celtics, great win and a great start for Brogdon and their interim coach Joe Mazulla. This team is still tough to beat even without Oduka.

I am not sure, but I think Harden is leaner this time compared to last season. That might contribute to him getting back his old game. He should be able to contribute better as the season progresses. It is just the first game of the season.

If the Lakers are not happy with him, why are they still keeping him? IMO, it doesn't make sense, they should already trade him and get someone who can help Lebron and Davis for their championship goal. It was still Lebron who are doing most of the contribution on that game, nice performance from him in a losing effort, but as a fan, we like to see them win, not Lebron making points to break the record.

I am sure they will be happy to trade him IF they can find a team that is willing to take up the humongous contract that Westbrook has. Unfortunately, no team wanted to have Westbrook right now. So, they just have to wait until his contract expires. It is the last season of Westbrook, and he will be UFA next season. He still has recent contributions to the Lakers, 19-3-11 is still good. Maybe not be proportionate to his contract but still a good contribution considering he is not the first or second option in the team.

1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 19, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
Anyways, Team Spirit the defending champion is in a life and death bo1 situation. SEA teams play like there is no tomorrow when they are matched with top teams. Cheesy

I do believe that Team Spirit will not be knocked out of the competition this early. They were knocked out to the bottom bracket last year as well in the first round of the upper bracket matches but they persevere, made it to the finals, and beat LGD. They are taking it one step further though this year. They are starting at the very bottom, BO1 elimination with Boom Esports. Boom showed resilience in the group matches and was able to snatch the last slot of the bottom bracket, but I think their journey will end this time against Team Spirit. Due to a large hero pool of Team Spirit, Boom will have a hard time figuring them out. And in a BO1 situation, that is very scary.

I think RNG they will have to concede the tournament in case they go deep in tournament as I doubt they will hit the main stage with the problems they are currently have.

After the performance they had after they learned they had covid, I also doubt they will reach the main stage. They might not even get out of the BO1 matches. But we still cannot be certain about this. They can still surprise us, considering they are a good team.
1326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin may drop to $15k or so but it'll definitely hit $300k+ in coming years on: October 19, 2022, 06:11:54 AM
That's just my thoughts. Maybe by 2024, unless all hell breaks loose.

As long as internet keeps chugging along though, BTC will prevail. Smiley

If the ATH keeps doubling after every halving, then we only have like 2 or 3 halving before we reach that price. But we may need at least 5 more halving before we see that price stabilize. This is all just speculation because we do not really know what will happen in the future. The reverse can also happen.

I agree with you somewhat on the title to this thread, but I would probably say that it could hit $12K, but will definitely hit $135K by the end of 2025. So I guess I’m a little more bearish than you, but a X7 in just over 2 years still seems pretty bullish to me. If you turn out to be right and I’m wrong though, I wouldn’t complain. I do think the ultimate test of will is still ahead though. I don’t feel like the market sentiment is low enough for us to have seen the bottom yet.

I hope you're wrong about Bitcoin hitting $12,000, but as I am convinced that Bitcoin hitting $300,000 is just a matter of time, I am also sure that it will hit $135,000. Whether it will be in the end of 2025 or not, it doesn't matter when you're buying it even at $20,000.

So this is still a call to those who are waiting for Bitcoin to fall all the way to $17,000, $15,000, or $12,000 so that they could buy. You might end up waiting in vain. The most important point now is not how much you bought at this bearish times, it is that you took advantage of it and bought.

It's okay though if it drops to 12k because we are so sure that it will reach 135k in the future. It just gives us more chance to accumulate more bitcoin before it takes off again.
1327  Economy / Speculation / Re: what is the bottom of this bear market BTC on: October 19, 2022, 05:54:59 AM
Lets poll the lowest BTC price can expect this bear market
The lowest price for Bitcoin is above the price in the poll you created. Maybe $17.8K could be the lowest price since the bear market took place as it goes along with inflation.
Yesterday the Bitcoin chart was green which was indicated as a sign that the market would be bullish even if it only lasted for a moment.
The potential for increased prices remains this year.
hold.

We have been hovering around this prize for a while now, it may be safe to say that this is the lowest it can get for this year. Normally, the price spikes in November and slowly goes down again in December into the next year. We may see the same trajection of the price this year as you indicated that the market may enter a bullish market. It may be short though so this poll can still be valid for next year because we have not fully left the bear market. We may see the lower prices listed next year.
1328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 19, 2022, 05:16:11 AM
Golden State Warriors vs LA Lakers
123 - 109

Golden State Warriors are fun to watch. The way they execute their plays and the way the ball is rotating; the execution is just perfect. Poole and Wiggins showed the crowed why they deserve that contract extension. They came in balling tonight.

on the other hand

The Lakers are just a mess right now, especially in the third quarter. There is no defense, and the offense is totally nowhere to be found. Their plays are a mess. It is just the first game but we already see that there is a lot to fix in this team in order to be competitive again. If they play weaker teams, they will be alright but against a well-organized team with good chemistry, they will surely struggle.
1329  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 18, 2022, 11:32:00 PM
Isa sa inaabangan ko sa season na ito ay ang pagbabalik ni Ben Simmons na maglalaro para sa Brooklyn Nets. Pinapanood ko yong ilan sa mga highlights sa mga laro nila at mukhang maganda naman yong chemistry niya kay Durant at Irving, sa tingin ko pa nga ay mapapadali nalang yong trabaho ng dalawang scorer na to dahil mag-aabang nalang sila ng pasa galing kay Simmons dahil siya naman yong nagdadala ng bola.

Tingin nyo may patutunguhan ba tong Nets sa ngayon na maglalaro na si Ben Simmons para sa kanila?

Kailan nga ba yong NBA opening mga kabayan, sabik na sabik na akong maka-pusta sa mga paborito kung teams ehh hehe.



@inthelongrun, may plano ka bai para pa-contest sa NBA?

Meron naman sa tingin ko kabayan kasi maganda din naman ung mga selections ng players nila, sana lang magdagdag sila sa depensa nila kaya gaya ng sinabi mo parehong napapadali yung trabaho ni Kyrie at KD dahil marunong din talagang mag paikot ng bola si Simmon kung mababalik nya ung threat nya na aatake sa loob tapos ilalaglag na lang nya, Biruin mo may Harris at Curry pa maliban dun sa dalawang superstars nila.

Malalaman naman natin yung chemistry nila pagdating na sa totoong mga games, lalo na pagdalaw nila sa Sixers alam naman natin ang crowd malamang ung ingay nun makakaapekto kay Simmons.

sana mentally stable na si Simmons ngayong season dahil matagal na rin siyang hindi nakakapaglaro. Kakailanganin talaga ng Nets ang tulong niya para kapag natratrap ang dalawang stars na kasama niya, pwedeng pwedeng siya ang magdistribute ng bola para malayo ang atensiyon ng defense kina Irving at Durant. At kung siya naman ang minamalas, yung 2 stars na kasama niya ay marunong din gumawa ng shots para sa sarili nila. Magiging magaan para sa tatlo ang pagbuhat ng team.

Nasa coach na lang talaga kung paano nila ididistribute ang bola sa tatlong stars na ito para hindi magkakasapawan at maayos ang ikot ng bola.



Simula na ng NBA season ngayon. Opening games ang Lakers vs GSW sa west at sa east naman ay Sixers vs Celtics. Magandang games kaagad ang handog ng NBA. Makikita natin ngayon kung ano ang naging epekto ng pagkawala ng headcoach ng Celtics dahil malakas kaagad ang kanilang katapat. Samantalang sa West, malalaman natin kung may pagbabago ba sa performance ni Westbrook o magkakaroon ng problema ang kanilang team dahil sa kanya.
1330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 18, 2022, 11:13:09 PM

Very well said, at the moment, Poole is more valuable than Draymond Green because he can produce points for the team, and the fact that he is still young, that means he will continue to develop his talent until he becomes a legit superstar. People were saying that Poole looks like the young Steph Curry, so if he will live to that expectation, what we are seeing on Poole is that he will become a hall of famer someday.
Its undeniable that Poole has a bright future since looking at what he can produce to Warriors is really promising points and for sure he is superstar caliber but for discussing to be a hall of famer? Maybe he need to get MVP first or surpass many records before that to happen.

But also Green is huge lose for Warriors if he officially let him go so most provably they might struggle on defensive and on screening which is important to let their shooters create their shoots. Maybe we can see a different Warriors if Green is out on the rooster.

You are right that GSW may lack defense once Draymond Green is not on their roster anymore, but they can always teach their young stars to take over on the defense. If they can teach Durant to play a little defense, I am sure they can teach Kuminga or Wiseman to play defense. Or if that still lacks then they can still sign in some defensive specialist to play for them.


Kemba Walker is waived by the Detroit Pistons today?

This is really shocking because the used to be playing like a star in his early career as an NBA player but injuries got him good. It seems like the league really wanted to spend on healthy players nowadays instead to gamble on unstable players that might gonna cost them millions of dollars in mistake if they are not careful. Do you guys think that despite his size, he can still be a role player for some teams in the league?

It is understandable. Availability is the best ability as they always say. It is hard to bet on someone who gets easily injured and will not be able to play. Even if you have the best skills if you cannot play games, then it is a waste of money and roster slots. Just take AD or Zion, they can be the best but most of the time they are sitting on the bench because of injury.

Kemba Walker can still be a role player in some teams, I think. But he should not be expecting large contract. Maybe a year in veterans' contract is good. It is still better than not having anything at all.

1331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 18, 2022, 09:09:41 PM
Anyway I took EG to win -1.5 on their next upper bracket games though. Considering that they were pretty good on the group stage, I guess this should be doable

EG picked Thunder over Aster to go against so they might feel very confident against them. But personally, that is quite a risky bet. I would not underestimate Thunder just because they ranked lower in the group stage. We will see main-stage strategies moving forward so they may catch EG off guard. I will go for over 2.5 maps and Handicap Thunder +1.5. I am not expecting a sweep in upper bracket but I might be wrong as well. Good luck with your bet.

Boom Esports is still hanging on their hope to clinch a spot in the lower bracket. They got the first map against EG. They need another map to force a tiebreaker against Soniqs. They are doing everything to win against all odds. Where is this fight from Boom early in the group stage? It's like they have just woken from deep slumber and finally find their fight.

SEA teams play at best when matched against top teams but went too soft against supposed weaker oppositions. And just like that, Boom took game 2 and is now headed into 3-way tiebreakers with BetBoom and Soniqs.

Boom Esports continued their streak today and was able to secure a lower bracket slot. I think they play better when they are playing elimination matches.

This is a crazy group stage and no one expected this current ranking. The Last Qualifier teams Secret and Liquid are in the top 2 of their groups. My bets are bleeding as well. It's unpredictable, unlike the other TI where I earned hundreds of dollars. In this group stage, I only managed to win 3 out of around 20 bets.

I expected Team Secret to at least snatch an upper bracket slot, but I did not expect them to be 2nd in group rank. They have continued their momentum coming from the Last Chance Qualifier. These LCQ teams might have a better grasp of the Meta since they are playing in this tournament longer, coming from LCQ matches. I did not make bets on this group stage because I expected it to be crazy. I reserved my funds for the Main stage where the matches are a bit predictable, and I have a little information about the strategy of the teams.

Good luck to the top 1 and 2 of Group B, OG and LGD are waving at them.  Cheesy

Tundra avoided LGD and chose OG for their first mainstage match. I would choose OG too if I were to choose between OG and LGD. LGD is on a hot streak. After a bad first-day start, they then dominated their matches dropping only 2 maps in 6 matches. That is a 10-2 run. Team Secret is in trouble because they have to face LGD immediately after the group stage.



There is no DOTA today, so RNG has a day to rest, heal up and regroup. I hope they can recover quickly so they can be back at their top form for the main stage.
1332  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 18, 2022, 06:41:50 AM
OG was able to secure the final spot of the upper bracket in group A by beating RNG 2-0. After they played badly yesterday, losing a map to BetBoom, they turned everything around by demolishing RNG in their match.

Given the situation of RNG, I do not blame them for losing to OG. Since their health issue came out, they did not win a single game. We know how strong they are at the start of the tournament, if they could just put this bump behind them, then they can still come back from this. I do not know if a lower-bracket team was able to win a TI but there's a first time for everything. They can still go deep into the tournament.



Boom Esports is still hanging on their hope to clinch a spot in the lower bracket. They got the first map against EG. They need another map to force a tiebreaker against Soniqs. They are doing everything to win against all odds. Where is this fight from Boom early in the group stage? It's like they have just woken from deep slumber and finally find their fight.
1333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 17, 2022, 11:49:24 PM
... Someone give me a bold prediction for this year.  Could be nba champ, mvp winning, scoring title, etc.

Here's mine:

RJ Barrett averages 25 points a game leading the Knicks to a spot in the eastern conference finals eventually losing to the Bucks.  There.
Bold prediction indeed hehe.

I'll go for Zion and the Pelicans dominating the Nuggets in the semis and tgen the Warriors in the West Finals. Teams could be in reverse order but NOP will win just the same.

It would be nice to see both Ja and Zion duke it out in this season's playoffs.

That is quite a bold prediction or maybe wishful thinking. I have yet to see Zion play a full season so I am not making any prediction that they will beat any of these two strong teams. Let's say that this year, zion will be perfectly healthy and will be able to play in the playoffs, I do not think they can easily get past these two teams. Compared to a very young and inexperienced Pelicans, these two teams are already seasoned in the playoffs. Especially GSW, which already went through multiple NBA Finals. Unless these two teams suffered injuries from their core players, the young Pelicans will not beat them.

I like though that JA and Zion face each other in the playoffs.

[...] as per report this is what he said that's why Green was so mad at him, is that Draymond is a single triple.

I have not read this report. The warriors did not release any reason why the altercation and they are mum about it. Or did I miss this one?


1334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 17, 2022, 10:22:13 PM
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Hopefully, they could recover but I doubt they can still make it to upper bracket. They may have to continue in the tournament in the lower bracket.

Their last game for tomorrow is against OG though and OG still needs to win to get the upper bracket slot as well so good chances that they might lose this one as well. Im not sure how the covid situation actually affected them but given that they lost twice against Hokori, I'd say it should be pretty bad for them I guess

Took several singles for tomorrow




Hokori is performing really well, that is why I doubt RNG will be able to get to upper bracket. If Hokori beats Liquid, then there is no chance for RNG or OG for to get to upper bracket. If hokori ends up getting a draw against liquid, then RNG or OG gets to tie breaker with hokori. But with the current situation of RNG, they might just fail to secure upper bracket. If Liquid beats hokori, then the 4th slot for upper bracket is pretty much open.

It is unfortunate but RNG needa to thread a needle in order to secure an upper bracket and with their health in question, it will harder for them to do it.
1335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 17, 2022, 08:13:13 PM
That's rough for RNG, covid hitting them hard today as they dropped 3 series in a row and they might end up in the lower bracket or maybe a tiebreaker for 4th since Team Liquid is still playing atm and I don't think they could sweep OG tomorrow on their last series.
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Kinda wondering about this bracket tally though.



So hokori won twice and is 4th place alongside with RNG that won four times huh. Its kinda sucks I guess because in the end, they tallied everything by your win and lose record for the game instead of winning the game by 2-0 means nothing special at all

It has always been that way, for as long as I can remember. Besides, you just counted the wins of RNG, but you did not take into account the losses, that is 0-2 as well. RNG could been in higher rank if they did not lose 3 straight matches today. It is just unfortunate that they suffered these losses because they caught COVID, otherwise they could have easily contested EG in the top 1 position. They were at the top yesterday and posing to take the #1 slot until they were hit with COVID. Hopefully, they could recover but I doubt they can still make it to upper bracket. They may have to continue in the tournament in the lower bracket.

They'd most probably be under a special arrangement, although until when, that I will not be sure. Either they have to forfeit the tournament or Valve treat them like they are some kind of VIPs, but should they reach semi-finals, they had to be in the stage else Valve and the organizers will have to device a plan to ensure that the room will still be covered even if the players have COVID. It will be hard that's for sure.

I really hope they will be allowed to continue if they were able to reach the semis. But the problem is the crew that will be covering them will be exposed to covid. I do not know if Valve will allow their crew to take that risk.
1336  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: October 17, 2022, 04:31:26 PM
Hehehe, depende narin kay Green yan, kung hindi sya mabigyan ng max contract na hinihingi nya eh malamang umalis sya. Pero kailangan timbangin nya rin kung maibibigay o ma offer ng Warriors muna. Malay mo kung legacy sya, at willing syang i sacrifice ang salary nya para makapag champion ulit ang Warriors.

So tingin natin, matagal pa naman may isang season pa syang i proved kung karapat dapat sya sa new contract extension o i trade na lang sya kasi hindi nya gusto at maraming malaking offer sa kanya sa labas.

Pagkatapos ng season na ito, mayroon pa si Green na player option sa kanyang contract sa 2023-2024 season. Sa palagay ko, magandang pakiramdaman muna ni green ang market nia sa season na ito bago siya umalis ng GSW. Kung maganda ang feedback ng market sa kanya at sa tingin nia makakakuha siya ng magandang contract sa labas ng GSW, pwede na niang i-wave ang player option niya at mag free agent na. Ngunit kung mahina ang market nia, mas mabuti pang ipractice nia yung player option niya. At least may 1 year pa siya para patunayan sa ibang team na kaya pa rin niya maging effective sa pwesto niya.
1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: October 17, 2022, 04:19:26 PM
It seems PSG.LGD has breached the COVID protocols and they got penalized in games by reducing both picking and banning time ?? :O. This is huge for the deep games when they need extra time to re-think strategy but with time being reduce , they will have to move faster or they end up by random Gyrocopter like Spirit did  Grin.

But it did not stop them from sweeping 2 of their matches. They got an easy picking against Boom and RNG defaulted on their second game because of Covid issues as well.

Also , Somnus for RNG is sick and he's being isolated right now ... man...this is not what I've expected from day 3.
I think the whole team of RNG is now sick with Covid. I wonder how this will affect them in the next stage of the tournament. It is clear it already affected them today. They dropped 6 games in today's matches. They were at the top yesterday and now are in the lower bracket. It is a bad day for the Chinese teams.

EDIT 1 : and now problems for Liquid Matu ?? what is going on ?Sad

I am not aware of this issue. What is the problem with Matu? He performed very well in their last match today against Boom Esports. They even swept the match 2-0. If there is any issue or problem with Matu, it is not evident. He was dominating in that game.
1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: October 17, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
...
We are underestimating him too much, Green is a star player for a reason, of course, he will still be effective in other teams because of the coaching staff will make sure that once they acquire him they have a system that will fit for him, imagine giving him a max salary and not using him effectively, that's insane.

I do not know if other teams will offer him with a max contract though. In a year or two, he will be on the decline. Offering him max is just overestimating his value. I think he will receive decent offers but a max, I doubt it.

Not really underestimating him, it's his playstyle that will be difficult to insert into one team.
Then you have to consider this one as well when calculating his value in other teams. He is lucky he has Steph and Klay in the team, and Kerr as his coach because he fits too much in their system.


And like what you said, Zion also has outside shots that he can take if he has a good look. Regular season is
approaching, we will see good improvements from NOP with Zion playing.
Zion with an improved Brandon Ingram who carried the team last year and then CJ McCollum, it's actually a scary team.  Cheesy

... until you see him twitch his ankle again. Hopefully not too much this year.
1339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 17, 2022, 02:56:27 PM
This sucks. The manager should really be penalized heavily for not disclosing that he contracted covid and it caused a chain reaction of events that led to this. Good thing I chose EG to win the bet, although for sure bookies would nullify the result since it's a no-contest match.

Valve and the organizer should also be more strict when it comes to imposing covid rules and health restrictions. They should have multiple swab tests too. But yeah, they're skimping too much on the funds.

I wonder how this will affect them after the group stage where they will play on the stage with other players. Will they be allowed to play?

If the players contract covid after they have done the swab test, then Valve cannot actually control it. Symptoms come out days after getting the disease. Unless you want them to get swabbed every day, there is no way of knowing it until the symptoms come out. It is the team's responsibility to make sure their teams are following COVID protocols and report immediately if symptoms appear.

OG is doing it again by having a flawless standing on 1st day and now they beaten badly by teams that performs very poor on first day. They are now choking and bandwagon fans is blaming Misha on all there loss while ATF is the real problem on there match. They already wasted there opportunity on the upper bracket despite they already have a good run on the beginning of the tournament.

So good to bet against them after I watch them losing on LGD. I’m impressed about Hokori performance and I believe they are now the dark horse on this tournament. Betting +1 with them on bracket stage is my next strat.

I think OG lost they chance to get to upper bracket when they lost game 1 to BetBoom. BetBoom is at the bottom of the bracket but they were able to beat OG. Too bad for OG, they needed that win to have a fighting chance for upper bracket. I guess they will start the playoffs from lower bracket and everygame will be an elimination game.

It might be safe to say LGD is the second team qualified for the upper bracket since they'll be facing BetBoom tomorrow for their last series, and worst case they drop one map against them.

BetBoom is fighting for their life when they face LGD tomorrow. They badly needed the win in order to at least have a chance to snatch the last seat for the lower bracket. We will see how they will fight tomorrow that their chance to continue in TI is on the line.


Good to see Last Chance Qualifier teams are doing good in TI. Team Secret is sitting at 3rd and Team Liquid is at 5 but they have a good chance to snatch the last seat for Upper Bracket.
1340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: October 16, 2022, 11:51:53 PM
Why different penalty for different games? Why not same penalty for all three games? Never actually played DOTA so I don't know how big of penalty is loosing reserve time but it seems to me this could end up being a catalyst and firing them to even better performances.

You need that reserved time to come up with the plan as the drafts come out. If the other team is countering you hard, you need that time to think about the heroes to pick or ban. Unless you are fully prepared and you really know the other teams' weaknesses, you'll need that time. And rushing drafts can have a disastrous result. Some games are actually won by just out drafting your opponents.

I am also clueless about how they came up with the penalties and why not have the same penalty. My guess is RNG is above them in current rank and while the other teams are below them. 

Going with this single bet for the opening game on day 3 though, PSG.LGD needs to start racking up wins on their next games to make sure that they will get the upper bracket so yeah this could be it though

Hope you considered the penalties to LGD before you committed the bet. I am not sure if it will affect LGD, but RNG is quite strong right now. I am more inclined to a draw if not for a win for RNG.
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