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1021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 19, 2022, 11:51:33 PM
In today's NBA, you can't expect the supposed dominating teams to have always smooth wins against the underdogs.

I agree with this statement. That is why we see underdogs upset the favorites. Every team in the NBA can beat a top team given the right circumstance.

Maybe AD can be healthier if he is not the center of the team.
He's effective on that position but it's also known that he's just too prone to injuries. I think a less playing time or someone who can really tandem his athleticism will really help him to at least mitigate possible injuries.

But, it's part of it and no matter how many times he'll get injured. He'll still play as his but concerning his career, being injury prone, we saw the downfall of it from the other NBA players on where their careers have taken them.

What I am saying is, he gets bumped and banged in that position more than in position 4. That gives him the higher chance to get injured because he gets more contact with opponent teams. He is effective as center but if the Lakers want longevity and keep AD healthy, then moving him to Pos 4 is an option. Just saying.
1022  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 19, 2022, 11:42:36 PM

Bucks -1.5 @2.02 vs Pelicans

Sana sabay na maglalaro sina Giannis at Holiday para naman sulit yong pusta kahit na matalo.

Wala naman sa listahan ng injury si Giannis at Holiday kaya malamang maglalaro sila. May mga sportsbook na favorite ang Pelicans kaya medyo alanganin nga ang taya mo na yan. Mataas pa naman ang win rate ng Pelicans sa home court nila, sana ma cover ng Bucks ang handicap. Good luck bet mo kabayan.

Erratic yong laro ng Warriors, yong akala mo na matatalo sila dahil wala si Curry pero pumutok naman yong Jordan Poole kaya panalo pero sayang hindi ako nakapusta sa kanila dahil medyo busy sa mga activities ngayon sa Pasko Smiley.

Ngayon siguro magiging reliable na si Poole kasi wala si curry. Siya na ang magiging first option bukod kay Klay. Parang glimpse na to ng magiging future ng warriors sa kamay ni Jordan Poole. Sana nga maging consistent siya para sulit ang contract sa kanya.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 19, 2022, 11:21:48 PM
Maybe in their next games, it will be Klay and then someone who had a break out game for their young core,

I do not expect much from Klay since his injury. He is not as explosive and defensive as before, but he is still very reliable. It is okay if Poole gets to be the center of their offense while Curry is out since he is one of the young cores. He needs that experience to develop leadership which he will need when the current cores are already retired.

... Moody and Kuminga and Wiseman because they are highly touted when they come into the NBA. And will be the next face of Warriors, if they can't proved themselves, then maybe they might find a new team next season.

These players are very young and have a lot of space for improvement. I do not know if they will be the face of the Warriors in the future but one thing I know is that they have potential. If you will trade them just because they did not perform in one season, then you are just like the Lakers, who throw away their young stars without waiting for them to peak. Look what those players are now, they are stars of their current team. These players need experience. Once they got that, and still do not contribute much, then it is time to trade them. But now, develop them and see what happens.

1024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 19, 2022, 11:07:10 PM
Annoyed here that after winning that game, Coach Leo told the media that the Dragons are unbeatable. They should finish the job first. Undecided

He said the Bay Area Dragons are beatable which is a reasonable thing to say since, first, they just won the game. Second, what do you expect him to say? That they cannot win and demoralize his team. That is the right thing to say as a coach, give your team inspiration. He believes in his team, and he wants to win as the rest of SMB is. I do not find anything annoying about that.

I doubt a Do-Or-Die will happen in SMB vs Bay Area Dragons series.

The Dragons already checked how SMB is playing. Just look at the last game, what if the clutch shot by Enciso didn't nail? Throughout the game, the Dragons really ahead of everything, and who's the one in SMB that has the tough spirit to win? June Mar Fajardo. Without his noticeable eagerness to win the game, his teammates will surely give up early in the game when the Dragons are in lead.

Bay Area Dragons are the favorite to win the series, but we cannot just say, in certainty, that the San Miguel Beer will not be able to tie the series. One thing I know is that the roster of San Miguel is tough, and they will not just lay over and let the Bay Area Dragons win. They will give them a tough fight since it is already a do-or-die game for the beermen. There is a saying, "bilog and bola". Anything can happen in the court and upset happens.
1025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 19, 2022, 09:10:01 PM
Also, coach Ham started utilizing the former Wizards, Thomas Bryant as their center while Davis is having some issues and the results were better because they aren't that much having a hard time when Davis is not around.

I am thinking, if Thomas Bryant will be an effective center for the Lakers, I think they should start him and put AD back in pos 4. AD said before that he is more comfortable in that position, so maybe that is better for the Lakers. They can also preserve AD and not get banged up so much if he is in that position. Maybe AD can be healthier if he is not the center of the team.

Even if Westbrook is not a scoring machine anymore and barely create 20+ points, he's still one of the huge reasons why the Lakers got an improvement lately. Yes, it did start when he fully embraced his role as the 6th man and trusted coach Ham's decision that he's more valuable coming from the 2nd unit. Also, coach Ham started utilizing the former Wizards, Thomas Bryant as their center while Davis is having some issues and the results were better because they aren't that much having a hard time when Davis is not around.
It's not every time a player is at his best form, there are difficult phase for these players and some tends to bounced back while some can't proof themselves any longer. Westbrook is one of the keyplayer in the team and when he was at his peak, he did brace his team to the next level with his outstanding performance. The team have incredible players and they all have a very good chemistry between themselves. The Lakers are passing through some tough time but they always bounced back to glory ways.

And it's because they change his role as well with his second season with the Lakers, becoming a sixth man, obviously from the bench and it seems that he is also enjoying his new role, and still can make a decent score and last game if I'm not mistaken he has a triple double.

But the Lakers though still lack some players that will help them move forward this season and even if Lebron and Anthony Davis is healthy, they will have a difficult time in the West and probably will be in another play in just to survived this year.

Any team in the West will have a difficult time in the playoffs since the west is very stacked right now. Even the Warriors who I believed is very stacked team is not doing well right now. Good thing, it is still early in the season, and they still have time to acquire the players they need to get them to the next level. Let's see what is the move of Rob Pelinka to get the Lakers going and become competitive in the west. He still has over a month before the trade deadline.
1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 19, 2022, 08:58:30 PM
Thinking of betting Old G just for the sake of fun then I look up at the odds, look what I found lol



I guess this is part of the routine that Im going to find atleast until they start playing on division 2 again huh. Well it just doesnt make any sense to bet on qualifiers games but its Old G though so I thought I might want to bet on them lol

Even though I know they will not lose, I still want to watch that game just to see if notail is going to be back to his old competitive self after the long break that he has.

You are right, it does not make sense to bet on qualifiers, especially if the odds would be like this. Old G is just too heavy a favorite at this point. But if I am going to watch it anyway, I better put some money in it.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 19, 2022, 05:43:56 PM
congrats @jakelyson, your parlay won, it was not easy watching this game because they didn't win easily especially the Lakers and Brooklyn who had a tough match ups. Well, a win is still a win and that's what matters in the game. Sorry for me because I took the opposite, I'm more on the underdog parlay, so better luck next time for me.

Thanks! I was not really sure when I made a bet with the Lakers but now, I am glad I trusted they can do it. My heart skipped a beat or two in the last few seconds of that game.

That was a sure win parlay, hehe, 3 team parlay @2.58, that's a good one although I'm sure it makes him nervous a bit. It's good that Nets were able to comeback, I though they will lose because of fatigue, but they still continue winning which is now are in a 6 win streak. Also, their ranking has improve, currently ranked now at number 4 in the East.

Nothing is a sure win lately actually. Just look how close the games are, even with matches that have a heavy favorite. I almost lost it with the Lakers when Lebron almost lose the ball but fortunately, he recovers it and made a good pass. May parlay could have gone otherwise if the Wizards completed that into a steal.

^@jakelyson congrats.
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The same with the Nuggets game as the Hornets didn't give up that easily even when Jokic was having his best night.

Thanks! You made a killing yourself. Congrats!

I am thinking, the Hornets will be competitive soon now that Lamelo is back. Maybe I should watch this team and made some bets on them.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 19, 2022, 04:00:18 PM
Paul Lee and Barroca can rest more since their game is on Wednesday.

I'm excited to see the betting odds, I hope it will be available early so I can put my bet on Ginebra. I won my bet last time, probably the biggest bet I made this year, so I'm a bit happy, with that, I'm thinking of putting another huge bet for Ginebra as I think the series will end in 4.

On the other hand, we have SMB vs Bay Area, I already have Bay Area winning the series but I still like to take chances on SMB to even the series.

Hopefully, both Paul Lee and Barroca will be able to play in Game 4. Without these two, it is impossible for Magnolia to win against Ginebra. At least if these two are playing, they can give Ginebra a good fight. Without them, it will be very easy for Ginebra. In the last game, Paul Lee is the only one out, but Ginebra dominated Magnolia easily.

The chance of winning and moving to the finals is still for Ginebra and if ever the Bay Area will advance to the finals.

That will be a great matchup to watch out, more likely to expect a possible game 7 series.

If I am right, Ginebra is one of the teams that were able to get a win against the Bay Area Dragons in the eliminations. If there is a team in the semis that could go toe-to-toe against the Bay Area Dragons in the Finals, it would be Ginebra.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 19, 2022, 01:52:18 PM
LA Lakers won against Washington Wizards. The plan was to put the game in a blowout, rest their core players for the game tomorrow against the Phoenix Suns but the Wizards kept on fighting until the end. So close that Lebron almost lost the ball at the last possession that could've been a disaster for them to lose the game.
I doubt the spreads are covered today. Nets versus Pistons was also a tight game, the same with Nuggets versus Hornets. I think both games started with -10.5.

My heart skipped when the Wizards almost stole the ball from Lebron. Good thing they recovered and secured the win. The Lakers' win is the last match that would complete my parlay. The lakers won and I also won my parlay.

That's the old Poole, and that's the reason why he was given a max contract by the Warriors. For those who are thinking that Poole should be traded, you guys are wrong because when Curry will retire, they have Poole to take his place as their main man. That's a badly needed win and they have a good one on the road, so congrats to the team and for those who bet on the moneyline.

That is one way to silence the haters. It is good that he balled when the Warriors desperately needed him. He is given a good contract and this game shows that he can be relied upon when the team needs him to take over. I actually was not able to watch the game, but I watched the highlights. If Poole can sustain this high level of performance, he really is will be the face of the Warriors in the future.
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 18, 2022, 11:05:13 PM
We watched the g2-liquid match in the Blast premier world final match. The winner of the match was g2. Liquid could not show any presence. Especially their talented player yekindar was very ineffective in this match. On the other hand, g2 was the better team and they knew how to win. They definitely practiced well. In this way, after a long time, we had a good match.
They have achieved success. Congratulations to both teams. It was a good final match.

The match could have been better if Team Liquid have shown any resistance. They cannot even dominate the map they pick. Mirage is their best map, and they never lose in it. But in the Finals, G2 clearly dominated them in both the T and CT sides. G2 is clearly the better team in this tournament. They had a rough year but they ended it with a bang. Monesy deserve the MVP award with the clutches he made throughout the tournament.

NiKo and huNter were impressive today with really solid clutches. I'm feeling good for NiKo because there was some drop in his performance recently.

You can add jks to that list. He has performed really well, and he is a good addition to G2 this year. He got his own highlights and deserves recognition as well.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 18, 2022, 10:53:00 PM
@YuginKadoya @jakelyson @danherbias07 congratulations guys.

Thanks, after a week of losing spree, I took a break and yesterday was my first bet after 3 days of abstaining. It feels good to win again. Congratulations to you too.

Here is my bet for today:

Detriot Pistons vs Brooklyn Nets
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The Brooklyn Nets (18-12) and Detriot Pistons (8-23) will meet today at Little Caesars Arena. The Nets won over the Toronto Raptors Friday with Kyrie Irving performing exceptionally and ending the game with a step-back 3-pointer for the win. The Detroit Pistons are coming from a loss against the Sacramento Kings.

Key injuries for Nets:  Patty Mills (illness)
Key injuries for Pistons: Cade Cunningham (shin)

Los Angeles Lakers vs Washington Wizards

The Washington Wizards w(11-19) will play against the Los Angeles Lakers (12-16) today at Crypto.com Arena. The Washington Wizard is trying to end their 9-game losing spree. They have lost 12 games of their last 13 games. The Lakers are coming from a recent victory against the Nuggets.

Lakers key injuries: Anthony Davis (foot), Wenyen Gabriel (shoulder), Lebron James (ankle) probable, Juan Toscano-Anderson (ankle)
Wizards key injuries: Bradly Beal (hamstring), Rui Hachimura (ankle), Deion Wright (hamstring)


Denver Nuggets vs Charlotte Hornets

The Charlotte Hornets (7-22) will visit the Ball Arena today to face the Denver Nuggets (17-11). The Hornets is the lowest in the NBA with just 7 wins and even now that Ball is back, they are still in a 7-game losing skid.

Key injuries for the Hornets: Cody Martin (knee), Dennis Smith Jr (ankle), Mark Williams (ankle)
Key injuries for the Nuggets: Collin Gillespie (leg), Nikola Jokic (knee) probable, Jamal Murray (ankle) probable, Michael Porter Jr (heel)

1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 18, 2022, 02:12:56 PM
For me, if Westbrick keeps on targeting triple-doubles it will not be enough, for me, I think do not target a triple-double but a huge output on scoring, like he recently have against the Nuggets it was an impressive triple-double but he needs to do more, and right now Anthony Davis has a foot injury that may cause some losing game for the Lakers but if Russell Westbrick would keep up his triple-double target it will not be enough I think he needs to do more on the scoring because Anthony Davis may return on December 19,

I think scoring isn't Westbrook's strong suit. Nevertheless, his ability to grab a lot of rebounds and make a lot of assists can be very useful for the Lakers, but only in those moments when Russ makes the minimum number of turnovers per game. As for Davis' absence, Thomas Bryant might partially replace him if he continues to perform as well as he did in the previous game against the Nuggets.

I barely see Westbrook create more than 20 points lately since he is now in the second unit. His best contributions are from his assists and rebounds. This is good since he keeps feeding Lebron and AD or anyone who is hot in the Lakers to keep them hot.

But the problem with the Lakers is that they lack something, they are not as deep as before. Although they have some success with Lebron, in the long run it might hurt them a bit if others are not consistent as AD and Bron.

They still have less than two months before the trade deadline. They need to figure out what they need and who can push them to the next level and acquire them. They are showing some life lately with the current roster that they have. If they can acquire someone that can complete them before the deadline, they still have enough time to get accustomed to each other and make a push for the playoffs.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 18, 2022, 01:39:11 PM
Tomorrow is Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors and Stephen Curry still cannot play, according to the news I read online it would take some weeks before he can play again due to his shoulder injury but according to source it might take longer, do you think that the GSW would be able to survive even without Stephen Curry?

I don't think  they'll be able to win on the road without him, if they lose in their game against Indiana when Curry was present, I don't see a chance they'll beat the home team that needs to bounce back after a lose. Also, their road record is very bad, of the 16 games, they only won 2 times, that needs to be noted.

It is not only Curry who is out for this game. The Warriors will also miss the service of Andrew Wiggins. While Green (quadriceps) and Klay Thompson (knee) are probable. These are the guys that are supposed to carry the load while Curry is out. So, I also do not think that they will be able to beat the Raptors if these players are also not going to play, especially since they are on the road. Currently, the odds of the Warriors are at 2.85 in Stake. So, even the bookies see the Warriors as the underdog in this game.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 18, 2022, 01:13:05 PM
Exciting game indeed and IMO, that was a good "no call" when three bodies were on the floor before Simon Enciso nailed that game-winning three, that's a perfect ending for an intense game and a good beginning for another beeracle in the making hehe.

Second game at the moment with Ginebra leading by 9 points so far, not close so far unlike the second game where no team have lead by 5-points until the third quarter.
That was an intense game and lucky for SMB to stay alive, they should do more better plays on their next game to tied the series, they are not done here yet and beeracle might be their motto for this semi-finals.

Ginebra looks more solid tonight, taking care of the 11 points lead but this is not over yet because we know Magnolia is capable of taking over the lead. Ginebra have to make sure their consistency here, and limit the key players of Magnolia, the crowd is getting more wild here.

It is over. 23 points lead by Barangay Ginebra. What we expected as a close game became a lopsided game in favor of BGSM. I think the loss of Paul Lee in the lineup throws the rhythm of Magnolia and gives way for Ginebra to take the game. Congratulations to the backers of Ginebra.

Ginebra is now 1 win away from the Commissioner's Cup Finals. I wonder what the odds will be next game. Ginebra totally dominated Magnolia today. Are we getting tempting odds for Magnolia next game?
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: December 18, 2022, 01:01:59 PM
In G2 vs Liquid, it'd be hard to say who's got the upper hand. I for one will just go Liquid +1.5 and Liquid win to support this team even further. Even though m0nesy is stepping up and slowly trying to creep back to his superstar era with his amazing plays, it's not a 1v5 game as it's still team play that reigns supreme in this game. OSee vs m0nesy will be a great duel of the awpers that's for sure.

I thought Liquid can still carry the momentum they've picked up from yesterday's match, but G2 seemed impenetrable in the last 2 maps. Props to their defenses and their strategies on taking sites over. Liquid is no match to how G2 played Inferno, and even though Mirage was somehow close, G2 still managed to get the upper hand and destroy Liquid with some of their force buys. M0nesy played really well, and jks supported everyone like a champ and took fights like an unkillable warrior. I lost both my bets, but I enjoyed watching a great CS.

Congratulations to G2 for winning the Blast Premier World Final 2022.

It is total domination by G2 in both maps. As I have predicted, G2 is totally in point in this tournament and Team Liquid is quite shaky. I thought team Liquid will be able to come back and force a third map when they tied the score in the second round of Mirage but Monesy, jks and hunter took over and won the map.

G2 redeem themselves this tournament after a year of struggle. They deserve this win.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 18, 2022, 11:11:00 AM
Not a good start for SMB, they are playing a do or die game and yet they allow the Bay Area to dictate the game early. Maybe it's still too early as it's in the 2nd quarter, but the score is already 19-31, or 12 points lead by the Bay Area. Good thing Ross is playing, maybe he can help his team to win.
I thought at least in the first quarter the SMB will do good, I place bet when they're around 17-17 then it jump to 24 and now it's 19-31? I haven't watched PBA in few months or just watching it casually sometimes I thought that the SMB is still the top teams in the PBA. I haven't heard this Bay Arena before, was this a new team?

Well, don't you worry because SMB were able to come back in the game and it's now a close game. The first half has already ended, Bay Area only leading by 4 points, it's very manageable, so they need to have a big run in the 3rd quarter so they'll not fall short in the last quarter of the game.

This time, Scott has a good production with his precise shooting, 13 points so far from 6-8 Shooting.

This series is not over yet, SMB snatch the win tonight, the series is now 2-1 in favor of Bay Area. I just noticed, it seemed like the ref are pretty much on the side of SMB, even the last shot, it should be a foul since there was a push in the back. Anyway, congrats SMB for winning.

I also thought that was a foul but the ref did not call it. Also, when 3 men are down the floor before the 3-point shot of Enciso to take the lead, I thought there might be a foul there somewhere, but nothing is called. It is still good though. It is a very exciting game. The beermen gave the Bay Area Dragons a tough defense. Their shooters are contributing and Devon Scott have a bounce back game today. I think it was 28 points contribution coming from the import of San Miguel. They get to live to fight another day.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: December 17, 2022, 11:57:41 PM
The Blast playoffs starts later today and i'm surprised that Navi is slightly favored in this match when they still look shaky. Team Liquid on the other hand is performing better compared to Navi even though they're in a similar position they're able to grab at least a map in that one losing series. I already placed my bet on Team Liquid@ 2.04 since they're the value pick and Navi nearly lost against Heroic who are playing with a stand-in.
Very good choice on Team Liquid taking it yesterday @ralle14 !
I had them too on all my betslips so that is a solid win.

But today OG is playing them for a place in the semi-finals and they took the first map. On the second map it looks like they made some adjustments and are now on their way to winning it so to tie it up. Anibus as the decider map. It was interesting to see the stats on this map actually.
There were some glitches that were not fixed before putting it into the map pool that were resolved with an update but they didn't apply it for this tournament:
"On Anubis, several spots where grenades and guns could fall through the ground have been addressed, along with various clippings that caused issues with throwing grenades and players getting stuck — the arch leading to the B bombsite among the most notable.
These changes are not expected to come into play at the ongoing BLAST Premier World Final, which is now heading into the semi-finals. The tournament runs on an old patch, dating back to even before the next-to-last update that disabled so-called 'magic' molotovs on Tuesday."

source: https://www.hltv.org/news/35261/anubis-fixes-ancient-changes-in-csgo-update

Finals are Sunday so get ready for a busy day in the esports/football world!

I am not aware of the bug and glitches in Anubis. We have seen Anubis being picked up as a decider match in the playoffs, but I have not seen the bugs and the glitches or maybe I missed it. But anyway, I hope this will not affect the Finals if Anubis is picked up again as the decider map.

Will be supporting G2 this time in the finals match against Team Liquid. I think they are more consistent than Team Liquid and Monesy is a monster right now. If he continues to play like that, I am inclined to think they can end their year with a Championship win.
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 17, 2022, 11:29:53 PM
@bisdak40, good thing we have the local betting going.

SMB vs Bay Area, my team is already in advantage, they have a good chance of eliminating the SMB tomorrow, hehe..

About the Ginebra vs Magnolia, it's a very fair game, I can add like 4k pesos in this series if anyone would be willing to accept that bet. @bisdak40 can certainly update the table for us, just post if you guys are interested.
SMB are too dependent to JMF and they can’t maximize their import, their playing strategy should be changed if they really want to survive on this and go to the finals. Magnolia on the other hand manage to tied the series, this is more exciting who will take the lead. Anyway, where’s that local bet? Looks interesting but quiet high for a minimum bet.

I think the local bet is already closed because there is already an advantage on both series. Wait for the local bet on the Finals, maybe someone will open one here again.

June Mar is their main man, so they are dependent on June Mar. What I want to see is the outside shooters and the guards stepping up their game to match the shooting prowess of the Bay Area Dragons. If they can step up. it is not yet over albeit what most here are telling.
1039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 17, 2022, 10:50:52 PM
Good win by the Lakers as well, it was a very close game, until late in the 3rd quarter when they got the momentum and continue it to the 4th. Another triple double for Westbrook, Reaves, Pat Bev hitting 3's outside and so is Dennis the Menace.

But the whole story is AD, looking to be injured again as he has to take a sit.

And then the old Lebron, can still dunk and run and deliver at the other end with a dunk.

It's a good win by the Lakers against the 3rd best team in the west. Aside from Lebron, the rest of the team really step up when needed most. But of course, this is just 1 regular game and they need AD. Maybe tomorrow there will be results already on AD's injury, I am not a Laker fan but of course, we want all these athletes to stay healthy to make the league more competitive.


This is how they should play, as a team. Everybody is contributing and not just relying on their stars to carry them to victory. 7 players with double-digit score helping the 30 points of Lebron. Westbrook is reliable in the rebound and the assists department. That is a good Lakers basketball and against a very competitive team as well, not just a bottom team. The Lakers are showing signs of life even though they are still very far from making it to the top 8 or top 10 at least.

I personally think it's an end of an era with Warriors and they should think to trade some players if they still want Curry to be a on his top level for next year , because this year seems already like a lost one for them.
They are not super strong but they are also not super weak and it's still fun to watch them even with Klay Thompson being inconsistent.
This is where players have a chance to be a star, Jordan Poole, Lamb, DiVincenzo, Kuminga, and we saw Wiseman play again.
I am waiting for Wiggins to be back because I am sure he will try to step up his game while Curry is healing.

I do not understand why they are telling it is already a lost season for the warriors. When you look at their roster, they are full of potential and anyone of those names you mention can suddenly have a breakout season anytime. It is just a matter of time for Wiseman. Jordan Poole had a breakout last year and suddenly the Warriors are in the playoffs, finals, and winning the Championship. We know Wiggins can do it. Maybe the Warriors are a couple of role players away from getting back to the top spot. They need two-way role players that can defend and still reliable in scoring.
1040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: December 17, 2022, 09:36:31 PM
Los Angeles Clippers vs Washington Wizards

The Washington Wizards (11-18) will visit the Los Angeles Clippers (17-14) today @Crypto.com Arena. The Clippers are favored to win this game @1.50 and the Washington Wizards @2.25.

Key injuries for the Wizards : Bradley Beal (hamstring), Rui Hachimura (ankle)
Key injuries for the Clippers : Paul George (knee), Reggie Jackson (achilles), Norman Powell (groin), Ivica Zubac (knee)


San Antonio Spurs vs Miami Heat

San Antonio Spurs (9-19) will host the Miami Heat today. The Miami Heat are on a three straight road victory before this game and will seek to continue that streak. Miami Heat is favored to win with an odd of 1.30 and the Spurs are at 3.70.

No notable injuries for both team.

Houston Rockets vs Portland Trail Blazers

The Portland Trail Blazers (16-13) will face the Houston Rockets today. The Blazers are favorite in this game with an odd at 1.63 while the Rockets have an odd of 2.34. Portland won 7 out of 11 times they are favorite in a match.

No notable imjuries for this match.

Milwaukee Bucks vs Utah Jazz

The Utah Jazz (17-14) will battle the Milwaukee Bucks (20-8) at Fiserv Forum today. The Bucks are coming from a devastating loss against Memphis Grizzlies while the Jazz have beaten New Orleans in overtime.

Jazz key injuries: Collin Sexton (hamstring)
Bucks key injuries : Giannis Antetokounmpo (knee), Jrue Holiday (illness), Khris Middleton (knee)


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