all the shipping issues were USPS related, which is why i'm using strictly fedex this time.

shipping cost wise, that's true. last time i offered (and partly failed to deliver...) overnight shipping on orders over 10 units to compensate. that offer stands, of course.

regarding the USB miners and their price drop, previous buyers of mine can order at .175 per unit. more info here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195052

this offer is only for former customers, sorry.

oh, and obviously i'll need you all to email me when you've paid with your addresses, since i no longer have that info from before.

noted. that brings us to 26 at a minimum. please send your payments when your able, but absolutely no later then the deadline of the 9th.

where can i grab a countdown timer anyway?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjCZrDbAiz_PdE4tbDR3X3owMHNMb1NyekJGWHN4QlE&usp=sharing

hopefully i'll hear from FC and get this whole limit thing sorted soon... can maybe just open to ordering as many as you guys want then.

indeed. it's odd... but, uh... *shrug* i dun know.


well, ok then.

that frees up 2!

shall i split them between you, tigerfree and debitme?

i hear ya debit. keep an eye here and i'll be happy to include ya if i can.

complicated. i mean, yes, in the strictest sense, you are. but then do i deny the person you sold to? seems unfair to them. of course, denying you seems unfair to you...

i honestly don't know. as long as we're considering this limited in number of units available, i think i have to see only those who actually received units.

correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't you sell yours before i shipped it?

my logic is that waiting until the 9th to submit the order, thus allowing them to ship them on the tenth, is reasonable. rushing beyond that seems... messy.

allocating the miners - i need to confirm there's a limit to the number we can order. assuming there is, then we can limit it to units ordered previously, unless people declare they will not order, or simply don't speak up at all by the morning of the 9th. i'll reach out to everyone by PM in a second, and to friedcat right now to see about the limit.

as for the "ordering asap using shares" i had one - but in a bit of chaotic life, had to sell it and move to texas a couple weeks ago. so i don't have any shares or any coin.if you and others are willing ot out up shares, we can order now and sell whatever people in the GB don't want i guess. thinking aloud here. open to ideas.

the OP has been modified as follows:

that makes much more sense! thanks for interpreting.

well, first, obviously i need to make a new spreadsheet to track this and announce that i'm accepting orders from previous buyers, and modify the OP and such. i'll work on that now.

second - being aug 1 already - i don't know. i'm utterly broke so i can't place the order myself.

ok guys, i heard from Friedcat - though i'm a little confused due to translation, i think.

as discussed in PM with him (nothing confidential mentioned, so i don't feel concerned with posting it.)


sounds like the previous buyers get a coupon for 30% off - not a price of .1 btc. but that could change after august 10.

would be fascinating to watch, regardless of the outcome. couldn't even do it in one go, regardless of your holdings, sicne there's no coin available at that level. so what, push it up by a relatively small amount every now and then, then pause to wait for the sells to fill in?

yea. that'd be a show.

it seems the lower price of .6 btc is confirmed (though not from the cat!) with coupons for previous buyers. i've messaged him to see how this effects this group buy.

I see nothing dishonest. He quoted a price, you said you wanted to wait to see how the rumor posted out, he said ok, and alluded to information he couldn't share. I see nothing scam like at all.

i disagree with this assertion based purely on my presence alone.

i don't think we know the price points of the chips and such to be able to price them, the custom stuff i mean.

thanks for the confidence.

i'm having a tough time parsing the google translated page, but assuming that what you say is true - wow. i... wow. i would pretty much sell my soul to take advantage. however - i've had an interesting july, to put it lightly. i currently find myself living in a friends living room, with no car and no income besides the bitcoin mining i have. thus, i need every satoshi for food right now.

i'd be happy to organize another group buy at a much lower price though! would help me out a great deal, obviously. depends on the specifics of course, but i could happily see doing orders for .75 above the cost of purchase, with fedex shipping via ground for all orders (screw the post office!) though given past experience, i'm inclined to limit it to US only - i've got nearly 1000 in customs bills from the last group buy i still haven't paid. my own fault, of course. i am not asking for donations or anything.

so yea - assuming this is true - pending FC verification - .175 per stick, shipped asap via fedex ground to continental US. escrow by john k if desired which obviously incurs his fee.

i'm sure there's some limit or catch or such on this, but i have no further info and am pulling this out of my butt. is there interest, or more info around?

it's determining hashrate via sucessfully submitted shares over a given time, i think ten minutes. thus, as you submit more shares, the relative speed increases. yes, it will continue to do so until it reflects the real rate.