Having a hidden(unstated) fee is not right.
I agree that BTCJam should clearly state such things on their withdrawals page. I also agree that making a thread about a company after a certain period of time has passed (maybe 1-2 weeks, less if dealing with a larger more serious amount of money) is appropriate. What I disagree with is the title accusing them of being scammers purely based on your inability to receive a response within a time frame of your liking. The scam accusations subforum is not for your personal customer service complaints.Just start a thread in a *normal* area asking "Does anyone know why I can't take my money out?", not in scam accusations, directly accusing them of "stealing [your] funds". You make bitcoin look stupid and I doubt anyone is going to be interested in your own business if you're treating people like this. Go waste someone else's time.
Ignorant and libelous as this thread may be, he brought up a valid point. You should have fees clearly explained on the site. Every other site does. As for responding in this thread, my advice would be *don't*. Handle everything through e-mail. Even responding here will send a message to future assholes that it's okay to make threads in "scam accusations" whenever something is broken. This is not bitcoincustomerservicetalk.org |
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First off you do not have it posted anywhere on btcjam that you charge a fee.
The bitcoin software and network are charging the fee, not BTCJam. If I tried to send 0.002 right now to someone, it could cost me 0.005. The site clearly runs on auto pilot and the admin didn't respond to your email quickly enough to your liking. I suppose that's worth an apology. You creating a libelous thread accusing them of being thieves and scammers when the issue was entirely your fault also deserves an apology. |
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Gopher - wow - I do remember using that at least a year prior to the first version of Mozilla that I ever used (which was also before it was called Navigator).
I still like browsing more than searching. I guess it's what you grow up with. I still like dial-up BBS more than internet forums. |
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Don't worry, we all figured as much the second we read the word "officially" in the title. I used https://btcjam.com a while back just to test their service out. I left some Bitcoin on a loan and recently went back to check on it. Well the BTC I had loaned had been repaid so I wanted to withdraw it. Now btcjam.com fails every time I attempt to withdraw my BTC. I have tried 4 different internet browsers and 3 different ISP's... I have emailed them and failed to get any kind of response. This has lead me to the conclusion that btcjam.com has indeed scammed me for my coins. I suggest nobody submits their private details to this company! If they are willing to steal Bitcoin, then who knows what they will do with your private information...It's just sad to see how little it takes to get people here start screaming SCAM. The amount was BTC0.002. So little that the network fee was causing the problem. Here is the transaction ID: 36d32edf6f810b167b16593edd7ce514d2e976d118b81d052d4dd48b50fd668c |
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I love how bitcoin cultists blame their own lack of social skills on people just not being believers.
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Thank you Matthew for picking up the baton!
I sent an email to SIX standards about a month ago, but no reply, which is par for the course with them.
I also sent an inquiry to Peter and Lindsay at the Bitcoin Foundation to ask if they were making any representation to SIX and whether they wanted any help with that, but no replies yet either. However, Bitcoin has done its merry price dance since then, so maybe they are distracted.
Yes, well, let's try not to give the Bitcoin Foundation any power they don't deserve. I registered the Bitcoin Association of Korea afterall, I can email them with just the same amount of furious backing and authority to act on behalf of bitcoin --- none whatsoever. As for needing evidence for the ISO to take it seriously, FinCEN's various rulings could be used to our advantage building the case for legitimacy. |
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The minor currency in Bhutan is called the chhertum which means they may already use BTC for this internally. They have every right to.
Bitcoin is a global currency, which is what the X-codes are for. So XBT is the best choice, as the XBC has been used by the European central bank.
BTC is fine for informal use, just as many computer systems hold YEN instead of JPY. Not having an ISO code is a monumental handicap for Bitcoin.
Thank you for contributing to this thread. I liked yours a lot!  As for the argument people are making to making a symbol for the ISO will somehow: - harm bitcoin
- subject it to government reptilian control
- ruin their domain naming scheme
All I can say is, KRW is never referred to here in Korea as KRW-- it's called WON and the only time you see KRW is when dealing with transactions to other countries, their currencies, etc. ISO 4217 is a reference table for everyone to know what something is called when they're talking about it so that they are all on the page and can have confidence that it won't be misunderstood. Any argument against making things simpler for everyone in the world is one of cultist paranoia, and the person arguing so might as well extend their argument to speaking in tongues throughout their work day. Afterall, who cares if anyone understands a single word you're saying? Standards are for pussies! From this moment on, all the words I use in the standardized English language will have new made-up meanings by me, because bitcoin. |
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I predict that Colbert will mention the change in price that we are currently experiencing, and claim that is was caused by the 'Colbert bump'
If he does, I would consider it good press.
Does that mean that he will be investigated for promoting money laundering and drug trafficking? </sarcasm> |
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their currencies will lkiely be defunct in 15 -20 it years or a remnant of a bygone age.....
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Whatever happened to Tawsix?
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Wait, someone fill me in on what's happened??
SD is loading fine for me lol
It's loading perfectly fine for me too. Much faster than before actually.  |
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How much are you trying to withdraw?
Hey, @TradeFortress, see how he avoids the question.  Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. |
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It's entirely possible they're having issues with their wallets. They could be using blockchain.info to store their coins and utilizing the API there for example. If it's that or a similar case, then any issue with the host will reflect on your side as a general error. I'm guessing it's the former though.
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Wait, they let people place orders with accounts that had no money? And people trust these bid and ask walls? That money should be locked away like it is on BitStamp.
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The difference being the government says you can't, I say you can. Im proof you can do it, because I've done it.
you've done what? Stolen people's money and made up stories about a supposed journey for spiritual enrichment (e.g. LSD) that lead him to believe he was Jesus, and Jesus gets to pay debts by self righteous suicide. Duh. |
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This auction has ended! Congratulations to MrTeal. (The ending price was $481).
PM me with a BitStamp code and your bitcoin address!
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This auction has ended! Congratulations to Lodbrok. (The ending price was $960).
PM me with a BitStamp code and your bitcoin address!
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