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1441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 28, 2016, 03:04:32 AM

To other patrons of this thread: Thoughts on the necessity/usefulness of going to these lengths?

You can never have too much overkill.  

Given that Intel firmware could be doing anything, the next step up in security would be to use open hardware (raspberry pi?), and bypass the printer.  Just generate the keys, record the address, viewkey and seeds redundantly on archival paper with indelible pen, and wipe everything.  I have infinitely more confidence in open hardware than I do in anything with "trusted computing" features.  

Paranoid much? Odd numbered seed words go in safe deposit boxes on two continents.  Even numbered seed words go in two boxes on two other continents.  Now at least two continents must be compromised to DoS your funds.   Or you could steg the seed words into some books that will be stocked in libraries, if you are truly an elite master.  Arxiv.org doesn't have nearly the redundancy of physical libraries.

So library nodes store proof-of-publication blockchains?   Cool

Impressive that XMR is your largest asset.  Was that the case before the recent run-up, or a result of it?

Smart guy like you probably has a condo/loft and duplex rental, so that's one hell of an XMR stack!   Shocked

Kids, avoid printers at all costs.  They are basically hardware rootkits.  Acid-free paper + graphite pencil + laminate.  Or engrave on metal.
1442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: August 28, 2016, 02:38:35 AM
Sounds like recent Monero pump is due to darknet markets adding it?

Because of it's fundamentals around true financial privacy, yes Monero is being adopted by the DNM's.

Is it true?®

1443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 27, 2016, 04:02:03 AM
Soon, no mixing service will be able to "hide" BTC transactions.

Moreover, all of those past transactions through mixers are going to redflag you.  The cows already left the barn.  I am hoping you used a non-cooperating, un-penetrated, exchange as a cut-out, because otherwise your coinbase/circle accounts are going to get locked down, and your PII goes on a DHS/DOJ/DOT/JTF/FinCen red letter list.  No security clearance for you.  (Oh and that non-cooperation and un-penetrated status has to persist until your death.)

Fortunately the U.S. doesn't usually apply hereditary taint domestically, so your children will be okay.  For now.  Until the U.S. and Chinese systems converge more fully.  They are tending to converge pretty strongly lately, though.

It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you.

Relevant:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTBkj8gFfI
1444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 27, 2016, 01:10:19 AM
I have a hunch that they will release the gui wallet sometime before Monero trading on AlphaBay begins on Sept 1.

Soon..

Well that might be icing on the cake as far as price rise.  Looking forward to the GUI myself.

Not happening before Sep 1.  I will ride the NYC subway naked if the GUI is released before Sept 1st

LOL quoted for posterity.

For maximum marketing publicity, please use a Sharpie to write adverts/slogans for Monero on yourself before being arrested.   Cool
1445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 27, 2016, 12:31:30 AM
If you will allow me to play devils advocate. I have very little faith in the mental faculties of my fellow man. Consequently I find it hard to believe that dash failed to gain traction on the darknet markets it was introduced on as a result of any sort of technical understanding on the part of market actors. Meaning, to most of them, monero is going to appear indistinguishable. What reason do we have to believe a private currency will gain traction this time when it failed last time?

Dash uses its own version of Coinjoin, which DNM were already using to tumble.

But Dash's version has far less volume, so mixing takes hours or days.

And most DNM ops understood it was instamined.

Awareness of fungibility, block size, hard forkability, and the dangers of bad crypto (thanks DAO) are at ATH.  XMR was already on the anon community radar since Shen broke Shadowcash, if not earlier.
1446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 26, 2016, 09:03:17 PM
Where do we need to draw the lines now for Aminorex's marketmaking?

I'd like

1.  a BitSquare.io node
2.  a market-making bot to (safely/dispassionately) manage a few 1000 XMR worth of buys and sells on the BitSquare

I believe that's the path towards fixing the potential single point of failure Polo dependency.
1447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Scam (dash.org) | First Instamined Centralized Crypto Currency on: August 26, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
And when Nucleus started accepting Dash, there was no end of breathless "ZOMG MOON" hype.

Sorry to pop your bubble of retardation, iCEHOLE-Raper. But how about you provide any evidence for your "moon hype" theory? Because the quote you're referring to is 100% accurate. Dash never was marketed towards the Darknet. In fact Darkcoin was rebranded to Dash BECAUSE of the Darknet market association. Another embarrassing failure in the face of logic and facts.

So Bitfury untangles CoinJoin? Wow! Good that finally someone exposes Greg Maxwells broken design. Even better that Evan Duffield fixed that broken design over 2 years ago with major improvements making it bulletproof, creating a reliable, peer-reviewed technology named PrivateSend that is tested and unbroken as of now, what you regularly fail to address, since it means admission of defeat. See above for reference.
 
Meanwhile Dash "collapsed" from 7 to 13 Dollars, while iCEY's hole is prolapsing faced with the embarrassing wrongness of his "predictions" from months, years ago and the irrefutable superiority of our project.

Yes, Bitfury's upcoming Crystal Blockchain project, when applied to Dash's comparatively low volume ledger, will easily unravel all the tx ever made using DarkSend or whatever it's being called now.

So I can see why you're being so nasty, upset, and unstable, but it's better if you stay objective and don't get so emotionally involved with investments.

Here is the evidence you requested of Dash/Darkcoin community hype for DNM adoption.

Quote from:  risinhigher
Surely if they are implementing monero , they would know that Dash is way superior ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/4z2xx0/dash_on_oasis/

Quote from: peacelover420
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2k8k3k/announcement_nucleus_marketplace_official_release/clj8t9x

I am pretty excited about a new market with a good layout accepting Darkcoin, this could be a huge opportunity for you guys to establish yourself as THE Darkcoin market

Quote from: tungfa
1448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ROGER VER LOOKING INTO XMR on: August 26, 2016, 08:48:35 AM
Maybe he accumulate when the price was 0.003, now he has tripled the btc worth of holding.  Shocked Shocked

Maybe it was even earlier.  Wink

You can thank Bitcoin Core for crippling Bitcoin's ability to scale for motivating me to take a look at alt coins.

Felons moving to Monero Mountain?

Well, there goes the neighborhood.   Angry

It was nice while it lasted.
1449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 26, 2016, 07:04:39 AM
Now mining only 13 blocks on average per day, with the new diff increase i'll be lucky if i do 10...

What kinda hardware do you do that with? I have a gtx 980. I wonder if I could ever get any blocks with that.

I remember in 2011 when I could have mined Bitcoins but would 'only' get one or two a week.  They were only worth a few dollars each so it really wasn't worth my time.   Cry


1450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 26, 2016, 06:34:59 AM
XMR articles about DNM adoption on frontpage of:

vocativ.com - 4 million monthly traffic
newsbtc.com - 400k
cryptocoinsnews.com - 1 million

not on frontpage:
sputniknews.com - 30 million

numbers pulled from similarweb.com

wtf?  time to buy ads on sputniknews!

j/k dinosaur media (wsj/forbes/nyt) will be chattering about XMR in the 9/4 Sunday paper.
1451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 25, 2016, 01:32:17 PM
How about take a challange ICEhole and show how broken DASH is?

OK, sure.

Quote from: SIGAINT August 15, 2016

Quote
What about cryptocurrency X/Y/Z? I heard they can mix/join/ninja vanish.

Bitcoin mixers (even coinjoin) are not enough to maintain transaction unlinkability. Not to mention the Bitcoin blockchain data is currently being mined and sold to law enforcement.

Dash's supernodes could collude to reveal who you are.

http://monero7tukbkxn57.onion/
1452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How Does Dash's DAO Work? | DASH: Detailed on: August 25, 2016, 11:34:50 AM
Dash's me-too, so-called "DAO" doesn't work at all, because it is vaporware.

If it was working, it would quickly fall to the same adversaries that destroyed ETH's DAO.

But unlike ETH's DAO, nobody would really notice or care.   Smiley

Is it me or is this the umpteenth time Dash/Dark/whatevercoin has done a "me-too" type feature addition/etc?

Wasn't the last one the "oh look we can change our block size and fork effectively"?

Previous to that i'm sure there were others...care to refresh my memory?

Xcoin:  me-too ASIC resistance
Darkcoin: me-too darknet privacy
Dash: me-too instant transactions
DAO: me-too smart contracts
1453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 25, 2016, 07:08:54 AM
Checked on Alphabay to see how Monero is doing there. Its not even begun and there are 75 pages of items from sellers that accept Monero, lots of them are accepting Monero ONLY. No need to brag any more, image is worth a thousand words  Wink

http://imgur.com/a/nkOQr

"ONLY ACCEPTING XMR AT THE MOMENT"

 Cool Cool Cool

*economic singularity intensifies*

This is quite a development among sellers. I would have thought that they would switch slowly to XMR instead of doing it right away.

I have a question. Let us say I am a seller in the darknet. I now hold XMR in my wallet and would like to cash out some into BTC. So I transfer some to Shapeshift. Will my transactions be traced by snoopers online?

What would be a secure, anonymous way to trade XMR to BTC online?

http://BitSquare.io

decentralized xmr <-> btc
1454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darknet markets accepting Monero on: August 25, 2016, 07:04:36 AM
It was quite confusing that why those darknet sites chooses monero as they could have choosen any other like litecoin, dogecoin etc or even ETC, ETH but they choose monero. Do any one have knowledge or explain why monero is better suited than litecoin, dogecoin, etc, eth for darknet?

Try reading their announcements.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/


tldr

Monero is automatically 100% fungible and anon, no need for the trouble and expense of tumblers.
1455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Monero under 25 cents? What the hell are you waiting for? on: August 25, 2016, 06:52:20 AM
People will look back on this thread in the years months to come and say...."Where the hell was I and what was I waiting for?"

Fixed it for you.   Smiley
1456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 25, 2016, 06:36:51 AM
Checked on Alphabay to see how Monero is doing there. Its not even begun and there are 75 pages of items from sellers that accept Monero, lots of them are accepting Monero ONLY. No need to brag any more, image is worth a thousand words  Wink

http://imgur.com/a/nkOQr

"ONLY ACCEPTING XMR AT THE MOMENT"

 Cool Cool Cool

*economic singularity intensifies*
1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: August 25, 2016, 02:47:14 AM
No darknet is accepting XMR cause of the security flaws it has. I wouldn't touch it. I don't mind other do though...the market will be rolled up pretty soon.

You must have confused XMR with Dash.  XMR is being adopted by Darknet because of its superior security, while Dash is being ignored because of its flaws.

I'm sure you'll read these links and educate yourself before making more objectively incorrect assertions.

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/
1458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 25, 2016, 02:27:16 AM
It may surprise you but I am a member of the UK Labour Party.  UK government are about to make a big push into crypto.  Last month I met with John McDonnell (shadow chancellor of the exchequer) in Liskeard, Cornwall on the “New Economics Forum” and we talked on these issues.  We do that sort of thing here, Keep checking the world news.  It's happening.  End of October.

Wow, an actual in-the-wild (albeit self-indentified) Labour member, right here on BitcoinTalk of all places!  Cheesy  No wonder your initial posts triggered me so!   Grin

Are you a Corbynite?  What do you think about Jeremy demolishing the party and remaking it in his own image?

Did you know he's a radical (not very crypto) Marxist?  Are you a Fabian also? 

How are you not terrified by the prospect of crypto enabling financial sovereignty?  Don't you realize that halts your long march through western institutions and quashes your dreams of enforced equality of outcomes?

No idea WTF I'm talking about?  Watch this, it's a deep dive but well worth it, especially if you haven't been keeping up and require remedial background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZDwDroAMeE
1459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: August 25, 2016, 01:57:22 AM
Whats up with all these rumors going round that alot of darknet markets will be switching to monero?

I believe some are already using DASH...

Those "rumors" have been confirmed for days; XMR is live on SIGAINT, Oasis, and Alphabay (the largest DNM).

https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4yv1dc/oasis_we_now_accept_monero_xmr/
https://np.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4z0wm3/alphabay_market_launched_first_phase_of_monero/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/monero-cryptocurrency-dark-net-drug-dealers-hope-more-anonymous-than-bitcoin-alphabay
http://themerkle.com/monero-xmr-on-the-rise-following-its-inclusion-in-the-darknet-market-alphabay/
http://sputniknews.com/science/20160824/1044590564/bitcoin-dark-web-monero.html
http://www.vocativ.com/353221/darknet-markets-finally-embracing-a-bitcoin-alternative/

Dash was only briefly used on Nucleus (which was, like Dash, a scam).

Now we keep hearing unsubstantiated rumors that other DNMs are using Dash, but we don't see any verifiable information and Team Dash's Official Position is that they rebranded from Darkcoin to avoid the association with Dark stuff.

However, the only DNM besides Nucleus using Dash that's been reported by the media is a nasty child abuse ring.

Citation: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/07/16/pedophiles-launch-dash-darkcoin-mining-crowdfunding-platform/

Quote from: DeepDotWeb
Wtf: Pedophiles Launch Dash (“Darkcoin”) Mining Crowdfunding Platform

Dash developement isn't for darknet.
You should use Monero in the darkside.
Privatesend target is not darkside transation like Monero.


Privatesend used to be called Darksend.  There's no difference except in the branding; both names refer to the exact same broken Coinjoin implementation that was denounced by the inventor of the protocol Greg Maxwell.

When we apply your logic combined with Justus Ranvier's, the conclusion that Dash is useless ensues.

IE:

Only the Black Market Matters By Justus Ranvier
https://bitcoinism.liberty.me/only-the-black-market-matters/

Quote
This can not be emphasized strongly enough: the underground economy employed half the world’s workers as of 2009, and is growing rapidly.

Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: “Does this new thing improve the black market?”

If the answer to this question is “no”, then the thing is useless.

So bring on the money laundering, tax evasion, drug marketplace, and unregulated taxi service software. Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time.

Dash isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy.

Therefore, Dash is useless and Dash devs/cheerleaders are wasting their time.

Q. E. D.
1460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: August 25, 2016, 01:49:29 AM
I'm curious how a currency like XMR is allowed to trade on Polo. How can they comply with KYC and AML given the fundamentals of XMR?

Western union accepts cash.

Ba Dum Tss!
We live in a crazy world where financial privacy is considered a crime. Monero is a tiny voice against this truly absurd mantra.

The ultimate heresy against the religion of statism is Sovereign Individuality, which is empowered by the financial sovereignty Monero enables.

If we don't get them first, the statists will burn us all at the stake.  For The Greater Good®, of course....   Undecided
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