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1541  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] The Bitcoin Pages The Directory for Bitcoin accepting Businesses on: April 09, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
No offense, but I don't get it. We have a freedom of information sharing like never before in the world, a free forum completely stock full of listings (threads) and feedback (posts), and even a well known (but horrid looking) theBitcoinreview.com website, and your product is a brand new site (no questionable value) that no one has visited and already want to charge people to be listed on it without first building any kind of rapore whatsoever?

I don't think you did your research at all before jumping into this.
1542  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 4 Bitcoin Rain accounts with 178k USD (~191k in 3 months) for ~1150.00 BTC on: April 09, 2013, 09:29:25 PM
Hi Thiago, just wanted to ask a question-- you mentioned you guarantee a refund in USD if it goes bankrupt and such. Where would that money come from and how would you repay if you are in need of funds right now? Just curious for clarifications. Thanks!
1543  Economy / Auctions / Re: Selling my 2 letter domain sv.gd on: April 09, 2013, 09:20:16 PM
How many months/years are left on it and how much does it cost per year to renew it?
1544  Economy / Auctions / Re: Selling one unit from Avalon Batch #2 on: April 09, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
it's possible to change the delivery address at Avalon, so the device will be directly delivered to you.

No it's not, so no it won't.
1545  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet on: April 09, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
2)  IMO you helped BFL manipulate a bet, which is shameful & dishonest.
All I did was accept a device I paid for.

All betting talk aside..

You paid for it? What about the other users who paid for theirs? That doesn't seem fair. What queue number were you? Would you mind showing proof of purchase? As someone who previously believed in BFL's ability to deliver on promises (a long time ago), it'd mean a lot to me.
1546  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Friend tells me he'd rather go homeless then sell at this point - :) on: April 09, 2013, 08:06:49 PM
So, you found the anti-bank currency (or commodity or whatever you choose to call it) and you choose to behave to it like you would do to banking products!!!
I don't think that life got in the way.  Roll Eyes

PS: I am very sorry for your problems. I only hope you have now learned why the whole planet is in very deep shit. The reason is debt.



I agree debt is a very serious issue with today's society. It is the reason that I have never once in my 10 years of legal adult age bothered to get a credit card. As for debts and loans being bad in general, please do some research on "good debt vs bad debt". It's impossible to live in society without some debt.

Loose examples of regular debt that occurs in our daily lives:

  • Ordering food at a restaurant trusting that your debit card will work or your country's currency will still have value when you finally check out
  • Renting an apartment where you pay for the time after you've lived there
  • Taking a loan to purchase a house because the cost of the loan is cheaper than the lost opportunity of pulling out assets from interest bearing accounts
  • Seeking business loans for startups

Debt is frankly inevitable for the vast majority of humans, and there is a very good use for debts. The abuse of which is the problem; people are careless and uneducated on how to manage it. I'm glad to be a part of the community in such a way that I get to learn from it hands-on.
1547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Friend tells me he'd rather go homeless then sell at this point - :) on: April 09, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
Agreed. All my loans have been short-sighted (intended for short term, but ended up being long-term due to unforseen financial difficulties). As my friend of mine says who is in the business of giving loans and investing, "Life always gets in the way".
1548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Friend tells me he'd rather go homeless then sell at this point - :) on: April 09, 2013, 07:13:51 PM
It'd be better to say that I used to think of Bitcoin as a currency, but now realize it's a speculation backed pseudo-commodity. There's nothing wrong with taking investments or loans in a currency, inflationary or deflationary. Taking loans in commodities that change value 300% in a few days, not so much.
1549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Friend tells me he'd rather go homeless then sell at this point - :) on: April 09, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
I wish I could afford to have that same sentiment, but all my debts are in BTC, so when I make BTC, I pay debts regardless of the price of BTC. Let this be a reminder to anyone, never make loans or bets in BTC unless you're purposely trying to add risk.
1550  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: First BFL ASIC! on: April 09, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
red text makes it true
Only when a witch uses it.
They advertised made-to-order shovels, but they're waiting until after the gold rush is over to provide them it seems.
Well, shovels could be used to bury a gold treasure as well, so perhaps you could use the ASICs to hyper-secure your wallet file by an unsolvable riddle of a hash?

I suppose anything is possible. Even as a supporter of Avalon, I truly hope they ship and soon, because BFL failing huge (not just being late) is going to be detrimental to everyone. Although if memory serves me, we are due for another giant scam in the community about this time. It's been weeks without one!
1551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bet: We will not see single digit bitcoin price in 2013. on: April 09, 2013, 03:09:08 AM
As I expected, no bear wants to accept my troll bet. When they need to put their money where their month is they start to get serious with things like odds and lose confidence with their "single digits" prediction, it's all fine, but hopefully they can also keep that in mind next time they start spouting "doom and gloom" bullshit again.

Ah the "put your money where your mouth is" fallacy. I tried that one with my bet too, but even I know it's bullshit. Some people just don't gamble, or they don't have money.
1552  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] Avalon 85Gh/s ASIC - Auction, ends within 24 hours! on: April 08, 2013, 10:22:00 PM
Payment received as of 4/9/2013 from:

KaTXi - 4.5 BTC
sealkid - 9 BTC
Lodbrok - 9.1 BTC
Delitus - 7.5 BTC
hiima - 1.25 BTC
lebing - 26 BTC
norman - 10.4 BTC

Awaiting payments from:






I will ask a moderator to edit *this* post upon receiving payments to avoid spamming the thread.
1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: People are going to die (rant) on: April 08, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
This is an interesting thread because I too am predicting many deaths related to bitcoin, but not so much on the sui-side, rather on the assassination side. Libertarians here who crave a free market will soon realize exactly what that means.


"BFL hasn't delivered on time. You know what to do."
1554  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am losing money every hour -16 hours and counting on: April 08, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
I think OP just bought a BFL Single.
1555  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the biggest mistakes you've done with Bitcoin? on: April 08, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
Not sure it applies since it's more related to the bitcoin community than bitcoin itself, but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161710








vvvv LOL Priceless.
1556  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bears are back! on: April 08, 2013, 04:39:53 PM
you dont have to sell them right away, wait few hours and sell with profit. Yea, money of the future.

Ahh, the mentality of a gambling addict.

On the flip side .  Cheaper coins makes it easier for you to pay your debts.

If I were buying the coins in fiat, you'd have a point.
1557  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Bears are back! on: April 08, 2013, 04:33:56 PM
I was sitting here waiting to receive some coins for a service provided and before I could receive them, they lost $20 in value per coin. Yea, currency of the future.
1558  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't bitcoin too SLOW to be called "instantaneous"? on: April 08, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
"BitInstant". Everything is relative.
1559  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] Avalon 85Gh/s ASIC - Auction, ends within 24 hours! on: April 08, 2013, 04:00:13 PM
This auction has officially ended. I will be contacting all the parties involved and lock the thread until there is a need for updating it.
1560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is a snowball, not a bubble on: April 08, 2013, 03:51:08 PM
Bitcoin ain't a snowball.

MtGox is a snowball. Who has control over them? Who believes the data that they release?

MtGox at the moment is not subject to any regulation or laws, which means that they can do whatever they want, and they sure are in something big, assisted by some greedy investors. They want to suck the stupid money into the scheme, take it and whatever happens with BTC- they don't give a damn. And all this is damaging BTC- right now I think that nobody is trading anything in BTC, due to the volatile market. And volatile markets lead to a loss in cofidence.

READ HISTORY!

Isn't it hilarious that people think Bitcoin is decentralized when every bit of influence is given by centralized entities?

Also, snowballs don't pop, they melt from too much heat.
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