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1561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The reason of why Bitcoin is good for trading (for me) on: June 09, 2023, 05:39:50 PM
First of all I'm not a real trader, but I like to trade to earn small amount profit.

I only use BTC/USDT pair because USDT make me easier to determine how much my coins worth after trade and most liquid stable coin, the reason why I choose BTC is I don't need to worry about it when my trading goes wrong. So if I bought Bitcoin at the peak and the price keep decreasing, I will not sell it, but I will wait for the next super cycle where Bitcoin usually break new ATH.

Keep in mind I never learn about chart, candlestick, trend etc, all of my decision come from my mood and instinct. No stop limit, no follow any signal, no watching my PC for 24/7 etc, just directly buy and sell.

Is there anyone like me here? Cheesy
That means you are using spot trade in trading BTCUSDT because despite buying at the peak your risk is very minimal despite a price reversal or retracement compared with when you are trading with Isolated or cross margin with a leverage of 3x and 5x or if you adopted future trading then you will need to worry about liquidation because of the high risk involved in trading, spot trading is  more or less like investing in Bitcoin and hodl that means for you to break-even after a price reversal you needed to wait till price turn bullish and pump till your entry price well it's a good strategy for any newbie without any knowledge of candlestick patterns.
I think that is still quite big movement, sure it is not going to collapse on itself and that's a good thing but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with zero neither, we are going to end up with a big movement. So when bitcoin moves 3%, you may move 30%, instead of losing all 100%, you are losing 30%, but at the same time instead of earning 100%, you are losing 30% as well.

These are the differences and that's why it matters. I still prefer regular old spot trading ,buy bitcoin and sell my fiat, and sell bitcoin to get fiat, that's it. These days it is mostly done with stablecoins of course but I can still do it with regular fiat as well if I want to, there is no need to put stable into it at all if I do not prefer to use it and just want to do regular fiat.
1562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hi Im trader over 12 years of experince here is my goal on: June 09, 2023, 02:58:54 PM
...Since you said that you have 12 years of trading experience, did you ever made such money before ? If so , share the prove to us...

It's more like apart from the $7 that the OP saved on the school breakfast, he has nothing. If OP really was a successful trader, he would be able to make such a presentation here that everyone who saw it realized that OP really is a professional. He just thinks that we will believe his words.
I wouldn't want to be that hard on him, everyone has their dreams and sometimes it is not going to be realistic and it is not going to even make sense and maybe make you laugh, but don't do that on their faces Cheesy. It's normal for kids to think that the whole world is theirs and they can take over if they ever wanted to. I mean remember what happened when you were 15-20 years old? The whole world looked like it would be yours, and you could do anything you want.

I remember being "I will make the next facebook!" because at the time facebook was famous before 2010 when I was a kid, and today I am 30+ years old and look at myself as this kid, OP is the same, and I feel like it would be fun to just support them and let them grow themselves, it is only what we can do.
1563  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Risk management on: June 09, 2023, 01:35:30 PM
You may have the best profitable strategy and if you neglect your risk management, You definitely gonna end up getting screwed. Risk management is a very important aspect of our trading journey that we should take very serious before considering taking any trade, because managing of risks will keep you continue going in the trading business. From my personal experience some of the times I have tried doing more than I should do , basically not taking care of my risks, only me knew the price I paid for it.
Never you think that you can outsmart the market.
Such a true word, that is definitely the case without a doubt and that must be how it is most of the time. I believe that people are acting as if they are going to make something that matters but the reality is that strategy is only half of the topic. If you are not careful and if you are missing even one small thing, then you are going to take a lot more risk then you should.

This is why it's important to just focus on what you can do with what you have and not what you do not have. I know that people are focusing a lot more on making profit side, but they should start looking into not making a loss side as well. When you focus too much on the profit, you will not know what to do when the loss occurs and that will bankrupt all of your portfolio, always be ready for anything.
1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Promising altcoins? on: June 09, 2023, 11:36:05 AM
First two coin you mentioned ethereum and binance Coin will be most promising altcoins, even nobody will doubt. But the last one, XRP has Sec issue.  Some investors still have expectations surrounding xrp but i can't suggest any struggling altcoin which decreased  87% from its ath, since last five years. No profitable at all, so can't considered such coin as promising. Rather you Should go with some others potential altcoins
Many said that it might be difficult for XRP to return to ATH, apart from problems with the SEC, when reached ATH, XRP get support from McAffee who was shilling this coins together with XVG at that time CMIIW. If XRP community is still doesn't have trust about the future of XRP and the lack of influencers, maybe the rumor XRP is difficult to get to ATH could happens.
I think thats true though, XRP will not return to ATH ever again due to the fact that it's security and not a coin. People could act as if it is a coin, people could trade it like it's a coin, but it belongs to a company and that means it's not going to be a coin. Which company bitcoin belongs to? which one eth does? None of them are, BNB belongs to Binance and XRP belongs to Ripple, those are the biggest ones.

We should realize that this comes with a risk and Ripple has been at risk for years now, Binance is getting there too recently but it is not an American company so they could just seize operations at USA and continue, XRP on the other hand has so much network in USA that they make their profits there mostly. So, it is hard for it to go back to ATH again.
1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What makes a crypto project reliable and trustworthy ? on: June 09, 2023, 11:05:51 AM
I think Bitcoin is indeed the King of cryptocurrency, but that doesn’t mean altcoins are worthless. Some altcoins have innovative features, strong communities, and real-world use cases that make them trustworthy. For example, Ethereum is the platform for smart contracts and decentralized applications, Cardano is a scalable and eco-friendly blockchain, and Chainlink is a network for connecting blockchains with external data sources.
I think the difference between the altcoins is the thing that confuses a lot of people. ETH is considered an altcoin as well as Pepe, do you think that they are the same thing? Obviously not and this is why "invest into altcoin" could mean something so different in people.

I do invest into eth, and even bnb right now because I think it's undervalued after what has happened, but that doesn't mean that it's going to work, maybe I am wrong and maybe I will not make any difference at all but that doesn't mean that I will be able to just sit by and watch it go down when it shouldn't. In the end we are going to see it do well enough and maybe I will profit from it when the time comes and that's how I interpret investing into alts, not everybody seems like they would do something similar.
1566  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are your bitcoin May/June price analysis? on: June 09, 2023, 10:14:15 AM
in a situation like this, patience is really needed and I'm sure that for now there are not many idiots left who panic when the market goes down because so far, especially this year, the movement of Bitcoin prices has been quite stable between decreases and increases in prices.
to return to the price of 30k this June I am a little pessimistic, at the beginning of the month there was a continuous correction and even now the price is 26k and in my opinion until the end of the month the price will not change significantly and I think this June is the right time to buy.
I think it is not nice to call them idiots but unfortunately there are too many people who worry whenever there is a drop, that hasn't changed and I do not think that it will change anytime soon. People see bitcoin fall and they just sell. This isn't just the case in bitcoin, same goes for stocks as well, there are too many people who sell the exact same company whose shares they bought a few days ago, just because it went down.

The company is literally the same company but the price falls and they start selling as well. Bitcoin is quite similar, it is the same bitcoin that worth 68k and the same one that worth 16k a few months ago, and today it is where it is right now. This is why I believe that we shouldn't be really judging people but that doesn't mean that we should be caring about it.
1567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price bouncing from 200 Week MA on: June 09, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
The 200 WMA meme "as solid support" is starting to falter as shown with how BTC went down below it with ease last year and stayed below it for months.  We haven't seen it happen before.  And now it's starting to look that it's going down below it again.  :/

I don't really know what's gonna happen but if BTC is to go sideways like I guess most of you think is gonna happen then going below it and staying below it for a couple of months or more is inevitable.
I think it is important to remember that what it will do and what it should do are different things. I mean it should be keeping that as a big support and it has been like that for a long time but the crypto price is something that can wildly move and it will not listen to what the market says sometimes. Even if none of us sell, there will be people whose shorts expire and sell which cashes out and drops the price, triggering all kinds of stop loss orders and selling points.

This is why we shouldn't really be worried about it all that much, it shouldn't be this low and it will recover and go back to what it was quickly. Just like how it went under 26k and then quickly went back above it again, that's how the market reacts when it does something it shouldn't have done.
1568  Economy / Speculation / Re: SEC Lawsuit Against Binance Is Likely To Hit Bitcoin Price on: June 09, 2023, 08:50:24 AM
Do you have any report or link to that wallet or transaction hashes to back the accusation that CZ and Binance inappropriately used user funds?

Cryptocurrency transactions are transparent and can be checked with public ledgers, except privacy coins like Monero. CZ and Binance don't use Monero to move most of their funds from hot to cold wallets, from exchange to personal wallets, it's what I believed.

But this information makes me curious and if you have more information to prove that CZ, Binance lied us and SEC are right, I am ready to discover it.
I think that question should be asked to SEC and not that user. I think it might be true, as in they have probably withdrawn money from the vaults of binance and used that for investing into other things. After all where else CZ could find money they could spend? It is not going to be that simple and we all know that they are going to end up with using binance money and that is alright because that's his money as well, who could tell him not to do that, it is his money and he can do whatever he wants.

Right now, if this is actually the case of course, they are going to see if he used our funds for it, or if he took out his own personal profits of the company from it. That's a very serious discussion considering their audit situation, if they can audit well, then it should be fine.
1569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can anyone Predict What's going on crypto market? on: June 08, 2023, 01:23:52 PM
We all know that it is impossible to predict the future of the crypto market. However, according to the current world economy, the market is still in a good position. Still, who knows if there is even any news or when this market will turn around again. According to the economy going down a bit too slowly can new investments be made at the moment.
Have you seen the recent news about SEC vs Binance, this can affect the price on the market and we will see after the news event the price goes down because there will be a lot of panic by investors plus one of the exchanges is attacked then what is more worrying is bankruptcy the same goes for any other exchange.

Say new investment at this time? Well, you're not wrong, even if you enter as a beginner investment, it's still pretty good for the current price, but after you enter, don't look at the news that's happening because it will increase again, plus maybe you don't understand how the crypto market journey will be filled with lots of FUD.
I think there won't be too much, coinbase is not a big deal and it will not be punished. First of all it's an American company, meaning there are a lot of American money in it and it has to be doing something quite big in order for it to drop a lot, and to think that it will not be punished is not naive but realistic because SEC would do something that would hurt so many Americans if they actually did something.

So, why are they looking into it? To make it look like it's more fair, they are looking into Binance right now and the .us version is getting the short end of the stick, so if they did that to Coinbase as well, even if just on paper, then it will look like it has nothing to do with foreign investors, because if CZ gets punished without any other company, then foreign investors would think twice before entering USA market.
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what do you think about fantom coin ( FTM). on: June 07, 2023, 12:56:24 PM
I was surprised to see the fantom coin, which has gone up a lot and two weeks ago it was still cheap, but now it has gone up a lot.
I want to ask whether the ftm coin will have the potential to continue to rise?
And what's with the ftm coins that keep going up in price? I want to hear an explanation from you?
FTM was one of the top and old coins so it's not really that surprising if it will rise. Maybe some are surprised because other old coins are not doing the same or it was still early for a bull run for them to move like that however its kinda normal that some new coin will unexpectedly rise due to hype or some kind of manipulation but they can just come and go so investing on them after their break out is not recommended as we can only get trapped but we should not worry if we do that in coins like Fantom.

So, go ahead and work on your due diligence and then buy something as addition to your existing coins. Just keep in mind that most cryptos are volatile so a continuous rise might still not be possible even for the good coins.
1571  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the most significant trading sacrifice you believe you have made? on: June 07, 2023, 11:54:11 AM
...He did this because the mentor said people do not appreciate free things, and if he were not making the sacrifice of paying out of pocket, he probably would not be serious and would take it for granted.
I agree with this based on decisions I took in my teens, gave up plenty of money handed to me on a silver platter just because my needs were met through my parents, I somehow refused to look further than that. It was sheer naivety, and I regret not looking for my financial future.
What you exactly mean by gave up? You give it to someone else? But that was still a kind move. Maybe those people you give your money to were badly needing it. Those people must be thankful for you and they might pray that more blessings will come to you. Don't totally feel bad about yourself because I know you are not alone with that problem.

It's just normal for a young person to care less about their future but all that matters to them is to enjoy their current life which was great because once we move in the adult stage, we are now going to be filled with obligations. Did you know that some adults are regretting because they became too serious in life when they are still young?
1572  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to maintain profitability in crypto trading on: June 07, 2023, 08:56:38 AM
In addition to what you guys have mentioned, there is an article that I have read before where a trader earns profit only as much as what bank teller earns in a year. The problem with trading is the barrier of entry- it is very easy to enter but very difficult to master.

What separates a beginner trader from an experienced one is the time that the latter has invested. Not to mention, even experienced traders incur losses from time-to-time due to the nature of the act being very difficult to predict.

If you have the time, resources, and patience, the chances of you profiting at the given act would be significantly higher compared to someone who has just started trading.
I think it is quite important to remember that professional ones have a bigger bag to consider, and that's how they make that money. I personally believe that if you give me 500k dollars today, I will become a good trader too, not that I would turn that into a million dollars, but I can do 10% per year every year and that's not too bad, not great neither but definitely not too bad, wouldn't get fired in most cases.

Unfortunately there are too many people who think that they could double that in a year and those are the newbies, professional knows that if you can make 25% return per year, that's going to get you rich no matter what, that's an insane amount of profit to make per year, and yet newbies think that's nothing and won't be enough, well if you invested 1k, then yeah it is not too much you are right but professionals have bigger capital.
1573  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your take on the pump coming? on: June 06, 2023, 03:56:31 PM
I hope the price of Bitcoin will soon reach $ 50k or 2x from the current price, the most expensive price I bought is around $ 56k and if selling at the current price of course I loses, I have also sold around 40% Bitcoin at $ 34k because I really need money , now I will hold and buy more before the pump occurs this year.
This is what the experts advise that don't buy at high price because market is not guaranteed about its success therefore higher price is best option for selling and not for buying of crypto. There is no doubt that bitcoin will soon rise but at the price which you have bought bitcoin is very high and it will takes time to recover such money easily.

You need money and you sell bitcoin with loss so yes everyone needs money in harsh situations therefore before investment thinks twice or more that the step which you are taking is worthy for you or not. Investment is easy but taking profit from it is not an easy task so you should be conscious about each and everything as future is unseen and crypto is volatile.
I think it's alright, you may need money if you invest into gold or stocks as well and they could go down too, there is no guarantee that it will not go down and we should all be expecting it to change one day or another. I know that it will be alright if we invest into bitcoin and it goes down and we suddenly need money as well, so we will sell when it goes down and that's an upsetting situation.

Yes, we do not want that to happen but we need to remember that same could have happened whatever we invested into hence it is not going to be an issue. But at the end of the day we should be all considering bitcoin as an investment that would be better than other investments, doesn't guarantee profit but it also doesn't mean that it is worse than other investments neither.
1574  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for June on: June 06, 2023, 12:20:53 PM
Price is currently testing the recent lows after news that Binance is being sued by the SEC. I think this could end up as a short-term sell-off, as Binance isn't a directly related to Bitcoin's future or success. Also as many are now suspecting incorrectly that Binance may be insolvent, but in reality they are being sued for their business practices, rather than being accused of not holding reserves. The only real concern is the claim that they have been co-mingling funds, similar to FTX, which while this may well be true, I don't think it's enough to send Binance into bankruptcy.

Already on short-term time-frames price is finding buyers under $26K again, so this may well end up being a fake-out for now.
Let it be whatever it is right now but the reality is that we are going to get over that again anyway. I know that a lot of people are wondering when that will happen but it is going to happen in the future and we shouldn't be worried about it neither. I know that price is bad right now, but binance is a global company and not based in USA right now, so they can be investigated as much as you want, and it will not come to any serious conclusion.

At the very worst case, CZ will never go to USA again and I doubt that matters to binance as a whole, just him. Binance.us could be at risk but they could just close it all together and americans will continue to use .com anyway and I believe that we should be seeing the price recover. Whenever it goes up, they just do a FUD about binance for some reason.
1575  Economy / Economics / Re: Business failure among small-scale entrepreneurs on: June 06, 2023, 11:44:54 AM
Just because it is common, we need to think of it and prepare less? Hell no but we must do our best like equipping ourselves with knowledge first about the business that we are about to venture. Also, we must prepare a good budget so that we can be able to do different things at their fullest.

We can still think positively and stay to be optimistic. It's just that their level have now increased dramatically because we know that our business is growing as on what we have planned. For those who fail and never try again. They might be a reason for this. Maybe they realize that they don't have a passion for it. Sometimes it's better to move on than being stuck in a rut.
This is why I always suggest working in the business you want to start in at first. That means you are going to end up with something much better understanding of the business before you do it. Doesn't matter how big or small scale you are thinking, from a simple cafe to some industrial machinery, it doesn't matter what you want to do, and the position obviously matters because if you are working for a cafe, then being a barista is better because you get to see it all of it, but when you are working at a factory then being in charge of just one machine means you are not going to learn more about rest of the business.

So all in all I am guessing that it is going to be a tough business to start but you need to first get a job in the field so you learn the mistakes of the industry a lot earlier on.
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: You are not prepared what's coming quick analytics exacly of situation on: June 06, 2023, 09:38:16 AM
We buy Gold because we have a reason. It's mainly because we want to earn a profit later on because like Bitcoin, Gold's value is also rising due to scarcity. We don't know if WW3 is really coming so we continue to buy more Gold but if it's already confirmed then it would be better to sell off our Gold and invest on easy to carry and safe assets when it comes to wars. That would be cryptocurrencies. Don't worry because stocking of basic necessities are already in our minds.

This is of course more important than anything else because if we will die, our investments will still be useless. The governments are also going to provide a help for those who don't have the ability to buy goods.
I do agree that gold and bitcoin has a similarity in that sense, bitcoin and fiat has a similarity in the sense that we spend them as well and we do not spend gold. So, when you think about it, bitcoin has the best of both worlds, spend like fiat, save like gold and you have it digitally which is much easier to get considering the other two as well.

I believe that we are going to see bitcoin grow up exactly because of this reason, because people will keep on spending it, and will end up at the hands of people who want to save it eventually, leaving less and less bitcoin available in the market so people will have to spend more to get it and the demand will go way beyond the supply so in order to balance it we will go up in price without a doubt.
1577  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank loans and securities. on: June 06, 2023, 08:44:04 AM
A school diploma is not necessary to obtain a loan from a bank; if it were, it would undoubtedly be declined.  That is all I am aware of regarding job application requirements, though.  Maybe it will apply if you mortgage it to a pawnshop or borrow money from one.  Banks require collateral, applying for a loan is difficult, and loans of any size require land, home, or company certificates in addition to car certificates.
Only ID's are needed to apply for a loan and maybe some nice collateral. It is when we apply for a job, we are required to show a school diploma. Applying for a loan in a bank can be difficult. Banks do also have high interest rate but there are still lots of loaning companies out there (including the online ones) that we can try. They might not be strict as the banks and you can get your money in short period of time.

@OP I know the feeling on why banks or other loaning companies can disregard a school diploma. They think it's only just a piece of paper with no value but they did not know the struggle of the student only to get this piece of paper.
Right now in my country getting a loan is a very tough thing, banks do not give out loans all that easily because of the inflation, they know that if they give you the money then you could even get like some brand new iphone and sell for higher later on and not only pay the debt back but also profit, it's that simple. That's just an example do not do that for real but that made getting a loan pretty harder.

In the end school diploma, salary proof, and no other thing you could get even come close to the fact that we are going to end up with anything that will be allowing us with bank loans if we are not asking for what would be small for us, something big has way too much risk that the banks do not want to take into consideration at this moment.
1578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin bonus real or a scam? on: June 05, 2023, 07:10:30 PM
Today, bitcoin is very valuable, and it can be said that of all assets, bitcoin is more valuable than gold. Have you seen anyone give away free gold, even a little? So never think that someone will give you bitcoins, an asset worth tens of dollars per bitcoin. There is no free lunch, so don't spend time looking for free food, work, and earn money to invest in bitcoin.
This is such a sweet and simple example that would make it understandable for a lot of people. I have never seen anyone distribute free money neither, any fiat, you earn it and there is no way that you can get it for free. Sure there are airdrops where you are given 10 cents at max, and this screwed with peoples minds that crypto has people who give out stuff for free, I have seen as high as 5k dollars given out on casinos as a rain, because some whale won something big.

But that doesn't change the fact that you are not going to get free bitcoin, never. Too many things in crypto confused people, but this good example is enough, nobody gives anyone free gold, so why would they start giving out free bitcoin? They do not do either of those things and they are both attempts at scamming others.
1579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price bouncing from 200 Week MA on: June 05, 2023, 06:35:03 PM
Stability above 30k as it was a support level for a long time is the problem, so I think we have reached the breakeven point where the price cannot exceed the range of 26.3k as a bottom and 32k as a top, even the news coming from the Federal Reserve no longer moves the markets significantly, so without any news I don't expect anything to happen, at least for the next three months.
we will see what happen next. no, i think this is the support level 27k if we fall below 21k it will be disasster. as long as bitcoin can't break 36k i remain bearish.
the USD inflation rate is 5% per month. this is not good for crypto too and tether is rock and roll starting from january this year, while the other stablecoin reduce their number of tokens
Obviously, it is because we have stayed on that price for a very long time now but in case the price fell off to $21k, I wouldn't totally say that it was a disaster since it was just a $6k drop and there are much worse than it e.g a $15k or $10k drop but people will just use to it eventually and will realize that it was a special opportunity given to them. Don't worry, the $36k that you assume is only easy for BTC.

Remember we already crossed $30k last time but even if not $36k, let say $35k is only the max we get for a while, I will still consider this a bullish move. A real bearish move is when the price moves in a downward position. There are inflations but I think it's also the reason on why people invest in crypto.
1580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Purpose of purchasing bitcoin! on: June 05, 2023, 05:53:09 PM
It would be stupid of someone to buy something and not know what its purpose. You don't accidentally buy BTC because for someone nowadays, BTC is too popular.  And if you did buy even just a fraction of it, you know your purpose and its either for your investment or you wanna gamble.

I know one kid buy BTC just to impress his IG followers that he is into BTC. Now thats one heck of a purpose.
I think it's quite normal for people to not be aware of bitcoin, even in this world where crypto is wildly adopted and there are tens of millions of people who use it, there are still billions who have no idea about it as well.

However, I do agree that it would be pretty difficult to mistakenly get any, it's something that requires a lot of work to get, I mean not a lot of work but certainly not easy enough that you will mistakenly get it. Even in fiat there could be someone who dropped money on the floor and you could pick it up and mistakenly have money, crypto doesn't even have that. So short story long bitcoin is something you want to buy if you want to get it, that instagram kid definitely did the right thing, I hope he keeps it after showing it off.
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