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1661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 12, 2022, 06:46:50 PM
If they will think of a business,  most likely a game 7 will happen. With that, I think it's good to bet on the underdogs in game 6 and maybe betting a parlay would result to a better payout. What do you think about that idea?

For sure, Meralco ML is still 3.00 while Magnolia is probably 2.40, so that's x7.2.

That is quite tempting, honestly. But I am sure one of the two, SMB or TNT, is looking to finish the series next game. I am sure they do not want to risk it on a Game 7 because if it reaches game 7, it can go either way now.  They may also want to rest a bit before they enter the Finals. So, even if the payout may look good, I don't want to risk it.
1662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [DOTA2] PGL Arlington Major 2022 Prediction Thread on: August 12, 2022, 05:22:10 PM

Right now Boom and Entity is having there fight. I’m hoping for Boom to win this time because they are so good on this kind of crucial fight on lower brackets. I knew Entity is a very strong opponent to beat but I still believe Boom can get em.

What a messed game for Boom, They got the early advantage over Entity but they gave it up easily by having a greedy team fight on Entity area without any clear vision. Storm Spirit moves is always greedy and I feel that he is very intimidated on how Entity mind games him on by taunting him to be distracted on the game. He didn’t do anything game changer in the game even catching Entity back lines.

Entity line-up is so good on pushing and late game which Boom allowed to happened exactly what’s planning. Fishman baiting them to react so that they will leave Lycan free farm.  I think this is over and this is the farthest place SEA teams on this event.
It is too early to tell. We still have game 3 to watch and as I see in their draft, Boom is setting up pretty well. This could be another epic DOTA match. Entity countered the Booms tank with Necro but their core is quite lacking. I favor Boom on this draft. Let's see if they can carry this good draft to a win in game 3. 
1663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 12, 2022, 04:27:03 PM

That will take time if they will develop a player to be a star, but I won't make a conclusion yet as we have one season to see before we make our judgement. I know it's hard but it's not impossible though, and who knows, one day it will happen and Lillard is going to the championship, I'm sure he has been dreaming of that.

Durant and Irving will likely stay with their current team due to the high demand of the Nets, so not them but maybe someone like them will join the Blazers.

You are right, it will be too late if they will develop someone to be Lillard's tandem. He is not getting any younger and if they are just developing now, it will take like 2-3 years. By that time, Lillard will be gone. Hope they find someone that can help Dame lift this team to a championship.
1664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 12, 2022, 11:12:55 AM
Team Spirit, on the other hand, well, they have consistency issues too. But if they wanted to perform they can, but they can't seem to keep the momentum up on some games that matter highly on their spot on the tournament. Good thing that they got their shit together and defeated Team Aster in a very convincing fashion.
They will be battling it out with PSG.LGD in the upper bracket finals. We will see if they really are in TI form if they perform well against LGD. Last time they meet in Riyadh, LGD 2-0 them in the finals. Hopefully it is not a repeat performance.

This is why I don't give 100% to Aster. They can choke on Tier 2/3 teams and they can even choke on Tier 1 teams even though they have shown the world that they can battle it out against them until the end. Aster is a very good team and we all know that. It's just that they're held back by their inconsistency and their mid game decision-making that affects them badly.
They have always been like this but lately they are showing good effort. They are still not out of the tournament yet though, so they still have the chance to redeem themselves. They can have another round with Team Spirit if they make it out of their match with OG, either in Lower bracket Finals or Grand Finals.

I am still not losing faith with them that they can reach the finals.
1665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 12, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
TBH, I'm a bit surprised that the Celtics are interested in getting Durant to the point that they will trade their core players just to get him. They reached the NBA Finals without him so what's the point in getting him? They only lost to Warriors because of experience that's all but I believe this current core players of the Celtics will get a championship in the future. That's how promising these players are.
The point is they still lost. And if the management gets some hint that they could improve their roster to guarantee a championship, they should explore it. I too, do not agree that they should break their core for Durant, but I am not an expert. And their GM is doing fine building this team so far, maybe we could give him the benefit of the doubt and trust that he could still make this team better than it already is.

Kyrie Irving reportedly sought contractual guarantees that he wouldn't have to make more than 60 appearances per season and could skip back-to-back games as part of his extension talks with the Brooklyn Nets.
...
What are your thoughts about this one? When I saw this, I was like "WTF?" Looks like the Nets got 2 all-star players which has more authority than the management themselves. Cheesy

Maybe Kyrie is thinking if Kawhi was able to include that in his contract, maybe he could too? But Kawhi is different since he is injured, and keeping him healthy for the playoff run proves to be beneficial to the team. He got Raptors a ring. Kyrie is different in a way, you are still not guaranteed how he will react even if you grant him that. He is so unpredictable that you do not know if he will perform or what drama will come next. Nets should teach him a lesson and not grant him this one.
1666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 11, 2022, 07:13:22 PM
I can see Dame riding with them for a coue years but once he hits 34-35 he will probably want to jump ship to a contender if Portland hasn't done anything to increase their chances of competing for a chip.  One dude I wish the Knicks made a run at.  He is a complete difference maker.  Would be a legend if he was on a better team.

I feel like if he is going to do that, he should be doing it now that he is still in his prime. Now is the best time for him to chase a ring since he can still maximize his contribution to the team. If he waits until 34-35 before doing it, he will be declining by that time. He can still contribute but can not as much right now. He also maybe injury prone by that time.
1667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 11, 2022, 06:34:47 PM
fnatic - beastcoast going to game 3, beastcoast ain't going down without a fight,, whew! i was this close to dropping a unit on -1.5 handicap  Roll Eyes

Beastcoast completed the comeback in Game 3. They are moving forward in the lower bracket as they dropped FNATIC out of the touranament. They easily won game 2 and also dominated Game 3. For a moment there, I thought FNATIC was able to make a comeback late in the game, but they failed to complete it.

I really thought FNATIC have a chance to win this series. That destroyed my parlay bet for today. Just gonna enjoy watching the next game.

UP NEXT:
PSG.LGD vs OG

This is going to be a good series again. OG has not won against LGD in the group stage, I wonder if they can take a game in this series.
1668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 11, 2022, 12:27:30 PM
T1 for Dota 2 just posted that they're now parting ways with Gabbi and Karl. I think that Karl should have retained and it should only be Gabbi that they have to release.

No offense on that but they're getting ready for the TI qualifiers and it will be hard if Fnatic won't get a direct invite because they'll be another burden to the SEA TI qualifiers.

Who are you guys thinking? The players that are free at this time that I can think of iceiceice and topson. But I doubt that topson will join them. Some rumors said that topson could replace Abed on EG and then Abed goes back to Asia and will play for T1. Well, it's just a rumor and I don't think that it will be allowed by his contract.

Who do you think guys will replace these two?

In the interview in Road to The International with BMW, Topson stated that he wanted play in Europe. He believes it is the strongest region. So, I doubt that he will want to play for a Sea team. I really do not have an idea who can replace the two. Let's see in the future.

What a dissapointment is EG right now. They missing TI , they have no major trophy in the last years and I think they strongly need to chance something in that team as soon as possible because they basically have 2 carry in that team that both have big EGO and won't let anything from them in order for the team to have an advantage and I'm sick of both Nightfall and RTZ and to be honest,

Can't they try qualifiers? Team Secret will have to go through qualifiers as well, maybe EG can regroup and try again in the qualifier. But surely, they have to change something in their roster. They cannot stay like this and hope to be competitive.

nothing can stop PSG or Aster to reach the finals.

Let's see, Team Spirit and OG is quite formidable, especially the way they have shown in their last series. We will see in their matches later if OG/Spirit will not be able to adjust against these power houses.

1669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 11, 2022, 09:09:58 AM
All my bets were ML. I lost that EG bet and I think Bulba should be fired next season. But this team might still get a TI ticket if Fnatic will win against Beastcoast (very winnable) and the hard-as-nails Outsiders.

Bulba should be fired but I can't believe social media is toasting Fly. Their saying his cursed or something. Cheesy





I will be taking some action too with Fnatic vs Beastcoast. Hopefully, FNatic wins this series.

Will be taking 2.5 maps in Team Spirit vs Aster. They were 1-1 in group stage so I am thinking this can go to game 3 as well but can't decide which is the better team. It could go either way.

Will stay away from LGD vs OG. I know LGD is very strong but there might be some surprises since Ceb is playing now.

I can't believe stake is not offering map handicaps anymore. It was an easy win using handicap since most series go all the way.
1670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 11, 2022, 12:26:46 AM
About the play, I wonder what Lebron's role would be this time. It is good for Westbrook if he will be the primary ball handler since that is his natural position. And if AD stays healthy, it will be a lethal combination. But if LeBron will also be handling the ball, then it will be a conflict and they will have the same result as last year.

Surely, there's no way LeBron James will adjust in terms of role. Can't see him doing that as the Lakers offense is effective when he's the one primary handling the ball and he was used on doing it since then. Westbrook should try to adopt being the backcourt duo instead since after all, he already has experienced playing with other players who also has the same role like James Harden in Houston Rockets and Bradley Beal in Washington Wizards.

I was thinking it is better for the team if Lebron adjusts his role since he can play 4 out of 5 roles. He can easily transition from one role to another, better than forcing Westbrook to adjust. They already know what happens if they do that. They have last season as a reference. IF they want to run this team again, they better do something they have not done before and more aside from keeping the 3 of them healthy. Anyway, let's see what the new coach has in mind this coming season.

"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.


It has been stated before that Tatum is untouchable. We all know that Tatum is the franchise player and they are building around him. This offer is ridiculous. It is not like the Boston will willingly destroy what they have built in the past 5 years just to acquire an aging and problematic Durant.
1671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [DOTA2] PGL Arlington Major 2022 Prediction Thread on: August 10, 2022, 10:17:45 PM
I am watching Entity and EG. It seems that EG is going to be out, it's the 3rd game (1-1) and currently the game is 25 minutes long already but the score is 6-16 in favor of Entity.
Watching EG being destroyed like this is not new anymore and Arthur's Alchemist isn't that fat at all. They're struggling and Entity is doing it right.
And I think the game is about to end so, it's likely Entity is going to move to the next round on the losers bracket unless EG flips the table.

Like I said above, they are being outdrafted again just like in game 2. They are now out of the competition and entity is moving forward in the lower bracket. Their next series will be against BOOM esports.

I am now interested to see how Boom will fair against another W europe team. They were able to beat Liquid but Entity is another level. If they can pull off an upset on Entity, I can say SEA teams has definitely improved. They have a day at least to strategies on how to defeat Entity.
1672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 10, 2022, 10:04:51 PM
As long as a team doesn't reached yet the required 4 wins to advanced, it's not over yet for Magnolia.
It is quite difficult to bounce back from a 3-1 deficit though. I do not know if there is a team from PBA who has done that. So i am considering this series done. Just waiting for which game TNT will finish this series.

TNT vs Meralco would be a great Finals matchup. No SMC teams for a change. Smiley

I also want to see that match up in the finals for a change but I have a bet on SMB so, no. Even with a horrible performance today, I know they can bounce back next game.
1673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [DOTA2] PGL Arlington Major 2022 Prediction Thread on: August 10, 2022, 09:25:52 PM

There’s a high chance that the majors finals will gonna be China vs China since LGD and Aster still didn’t show any weakness and inconsistencies on there games. Team Aster usually choke on the first day of bracket but this time Monet still performing impressive and can be compared with Ame.

You cant really say that SEA is still inferior.. Try to look on Boom esports which had able to defeat a strong team Liquid although this one isnt the former one but still they do able to pull it off.


It is really a surprise to see Boom esports defeating Liquid. It is not that they are only strong but they have shown discipline in their game which is very uncharacteristic of a team coming from SEA. I believe SEA teams are also adopting and starting to show domination. Maybe in a few years, if they continue to develop, SEA will not be the weakest region in DOTA.



EG is still inconsistent. They are very strong in game 1 and then were out drafted in game 2. And they are being out drafted again in game 3. Hope they can dominate the laning phase otherwise this series will go to Entity.

1674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 10, 2022, 07:03:05 PM
Interesting games today as most of these teams will try to secure their TI slots. I'm betting on Boom, EG, Outsiders, and Fnatic. Hopefully, I can get some nice wins here.

Game one between Boom and Liquid is still hanging in the air. But just as the game was switching towards Liquid's favor due to some unexpected decisions by Boom, Liquid all of a sudden was picked apart and apparently lost the game. Game two is coming up and I expect Boom to commit fewer mistakes to seal the series.  

Fortunately for you, Boom Esports pulled off an upset against Liquid. Liquid showing to be really strong but was outmaneuvered by Boom Esports. I am just astonished that even as a SEA team, Boom is showing so much discipline in their match today.

I am not betting so much on EG and FNATIC. EG showing inconsistency in the group matches and FNATIC having incomplete team. It is hard to put a bet on them in ML. If it is map handicap or over 2.5 maps, maybe I can put some. Their matches will be very close and probably will go the distance.
1675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 10, 2022, 03:53:53 PM
I've read an update from the Lakers in social media that they might probably going to re-run the Lakers roster with AD, Westbrook, and James and this time they'll run the offense primarily with AD and Westbrook so they can execute a better offensive plays.
Did some of you guys heard the same news?
IMO, they also need to improve their defense, because that's a more reliable weapon than just improvising the offensive end without bringing the defensive plan on the table.

I wonder how the fans would react to this update if this were real. They torched Westbrook last season because they put him as the reason they lost so much. I know it does not matter but sometimes a fan's reaction affects negatively some players.

About the play, I wonder what Lebron's role would be this time. It is good for Westbrook if he will be the primary ball handler since that is his natural position. And if AD stays healthy, it will be a lethal combination. But if LeBron will also be handling the ball, then it will be a conflict and they will have the same result as last year.


He is a new coach, it's a big pressure on his part because people are thinking that the big 3 are really good but the main problem is only the coaching staff. If the organization fired the coach who brought them a championship, I'm expecting that Darvin Ham will fired as well if the Lakers will fail again in the season to come.

If he can gain the respect of his star players, I believe they can be successful. They have a strong team, if they can make them follow his play style then I believe it will be a different scenario this time.
1676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 10, 2022, 01:57:31 PM
Then , we had Outsiders with Ramsez who simply want's in his best day and missed so many important initiations with Furion and that ended up with losing the series eventually.
It is quite a thrilling match between outsiders and team spirit. Game 2 was really intense. That game could have gone either way but credits to Team Spirit for putting up the good offense and winning the game.

Today , for me , it's all about EG as I really want to see this team being happy and winning series and events.

They will have a hard time though. They will be battling it with Entity in their match later. Entity put up a good fight last night with OG. But I guess OG did expose them a bit in their drafting so maybe EG can use that info to out draft Entity in their games. Let us see if they can capitalize on that information.

As per topias(topson), SEA is a hard region to dominate and he understands their play style but yeah, the difference of it from the other region is overwhelming. Well, anyone can take that either positive or negative description.

I think what he meant was playing a pub in sea since sea server is very toxic. Most players do not know how to play in a team, and he was used to playing in a team. Like most will say, if you can survive sea, you can survive anywhere.
1677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 09, 2022, 08:48:21 PM
It is understandable with Aster and LGD to pick -1.5 maps because they are really strong in this tournament. If there is a team that have the possibility to beat LGD it would be team Aster.

But I do not understand why you would pick -1.5 on OG and Outsider. This match is more likely to go to Game 3 than these teams getting 2-0. Aren't you underestimating the strength of Entity and Team Spirit? Team Spirit normally drops games in the early stages but comes very strong late in the tournament. Entity is quite strong too as we've seen in the group stage. I think you are giving too much credit for OG and Outsider but we will see. Good luck with your parlay.


Just because their h2h in regional, spirit / entity never win single map against VP / OG. Picking +1.5 is not worth imo.

Also i think fnatic has higher chance to win at least a map but who knows, just small combo bet and believe china

PSG LGD made easy work on Boom Esports. They easily won 2-0 and in a very short time as well. LGD really looking good.



OG proved to be really strong in their matchup against Entity. They won 2-1. Saberlight was not able to do anything in Games 2 and 3 for OG out drafted them and they basically denied the laning phase to him. In game 2, it was the worst doom for saberlight.

OG won but it messed up your parlay. I guessed that game 1 was just an experimental pick that did not pan out that is why they lost. And they got serious in Games 2 and 3 to win the series.
1678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 09, 2022, 02:34:01 PM
If Kevin Durant wants to leave the team then Nets had better let him go by a nice trade. Being insistent on keeping him here would cause him to be more unhappy and this would be of no use for Nets in the coming season. Irving must be in the same situation now too but we are hearing about Durant the most these days. He has been likely to sign for Suns or Heat but I don't know if they are still interested in a trade for him. Both of those teams would be nice for him imo.

That is what the Brooklyn Nets have been trying to do for the past month or so. But the Brooklyn Nets is keen to wipe the other team who wants Durant with talents that is why no one is biting. They are willing to let him go but won't allow the other team to be competitive when they got Durant. I think it is understandable they want that because of the chaos Durant has brought into their organization.

I just don't think KD and Kyrie are compatible with each other.

They are good together in court. It is only their personal drama that keeps on getting the way of their performance in the court. If kyrie just have played last year, instead of avoiding the vaccine, Harden should have not left. They could have at least got on the conference finals. But they prioritize their drama over their profession. And now, they have caused too much chaos in their organization.

I don't know if KD is just trying to avoid bashing Kyrie and maybe even Simmons too because he might possibly play with them this season so Nash is the casualty that can be replaced easily rather than dealing with the superstar players.

We know KD and Irving are friends. He still supports Irving even after what happened to their team last season. Maybe, you are right. But the organization still supports Nash and Marks. They rather let go of Durant than remove the leader of their organization.
1679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 09, 2022, 02:13:22 PM
My pick for today match
PSG.LGD -1.5 @1.52
OG -1.5 @2.44
Outsider -1.5 @3.63
Team Aster -1.5 @2.19

Combo @29.48

It is understandable with Aster and LGD to pick -1.5 maps because they are really strong in this tournament. If there is a team that have the possibility to beat LGD it would be team Aster.

But I do not understand why you would pick -1.5 on OG and Outsider. This match is more likely to go to Game 3 than these teams getting 2-0. Aren't you underestimating the strength of Entity and Team Spirit? Team Spirit normally drops games in the early stages but comes very strong late in the tournament. Entity is quite strong too as we've seen in the group stage. I think you are giving too much credit for OG and Outsider but we will see. Good luck with your parlay.

1680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 08, 2022, 10:13:16 PM
If the Nets get a full year out of kyrie and Durant, along with having Seth outside cam Thomas who can build on a promising rookie year.  Combine that if Ben Simmons can give them anything, don't kid yourself this team will be a tough out for anyone.  If no one moves this isn't rebuilding they will be one of the favorites to make it to the finals.

They are a good team and a top contender for a championship if they keep that team, but only in paper. They were top contender as well in paper last year. They are pegged to win it all, but look what happened. Too much drama with their superstars. The problem is not their skills, but their attitudes. It seems that nets netted the most problematic players in NBA.

If only the team could control their superstars, they could easily win the conference with all the talents that they have. Ben simmons have been sitting for two years now. I still do not know if he has real injury or all just excuses. Hopefully he plays this season and do outside shots because they showed him practicing his shots. Irving is very lethal in the court, only if he could just focus on being a professional basketball player and avoid mixing personal problems with his profession. If the management can fix this problems, they are great help for Durant. Maybe we can see how good they really are in the court, not just in paper.
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