Hi Jesse,

I have a Xapo account, and a question, not sure if it has been addressed:

What is the issue with mailing a Xapo debit card to a US address?

I live near the Canadian border, so couldn't I have one mailed to my Canadian friend and then go pick it up, and use it in the US?

Thanks...

Binary options are NOT 'a simplified forex.' (Binary options are a derivative instrument, with no inherent relationship with forex, per se.)

I'm not going to waste my time dissecting OP's claims - It's not worth my time, so I'll keep it real simple.

OP is either a scam artist, or a complete DUPE who is shilling for a scam artist. Your best bet is to ignore this thread and move along ...

So I played cash table for about 1.5 hrs last night ... I remember having a nice game with acidtripaces, and a couple other opponents. We were playing at Luckyflop. A couple points I want to make guys, for those of you who like to sit at ring game from time to time:

There is regular ring action at Luckyflop - you can find it most anytime. Yeah, its not humming like the busiest rooms, but there is consistent activity, and people checking it. This morning I saw a full 6-seat table playing .05-.1 PLO.

**This I tell you on the down-low, on your sacred promise that you don't start begging. Admin at Luckyflop has been known to spontaneously put little gifts in the accounts of players he sees playing cash games, particularly during the off hours. It pays to play here guys. That, and I've generally found the crowd/atmosphere to be reasonably civil, and very fishy. Again, begging doesn't pay. Playing does.

Bring your game, give it a try ...

Basically you have to sit at the ring table and then ask people to play with you. I've found I can get people to play ... sometimes. You'll almost never find someone there waiting for a game.

And those 10-15 accounts you see, are really only about 8-9 people, and a couple of multi-accounters ...

I made a deposit about 16 hours ago, and still not credited to my account. I sent a PM several hours ago, but no response yet.

I'm hoping for the best, just letting you know ...

I think it is a guy that is using a bot, but he is actively monitoring it, and will step in from time to time. Kevin sat at the ring table on Luckyflop after a few people were pleading to have him banned because he never sits cash ring. Then again, when I get heads up with him in bot mode, I learned to just rape him ... When he is busy with several tables on several sites, you will see that the bot runs more consistently. He may even auto-shove in small 1 chip freerolls in order to 'go big or go home' so that he can concentrate on the bigger games.

This guy does churn freerolls exclusively, so from that perspective I understand people might want to ban him, but I would suggest you all think twice. If you ban him, he will change his IP and then re-register at each site with a different handle, and then start to change his handle from time to time. Then it will be much more difficult to keep track of him.

I don't have a problem with him at the table, because I know who he is and how he plays. It is the multi-accounters that you guys should be targeting. They destroyed bitpoker.io and they are playing Bitcoinpoker.gg with increasing regularity.

This is best called a Magic Mystery Money-losing Machine.

Wrapped up with common gambling tools like martingale betting, binary options, and of course that widow-maker of gambler lore: Forex.

So ... if you want to SPEND money, to BUY a system to LOSE money, step right up and have a look.

OP is performing a public service: Separating fools from their money. Because we all know, fools shouldn't have any money

Thanks OP!

He's a non-native speaker, and his meaning is clear enough: He's admonishing admin for not responding to questions about pending payments. And he posted it on the public board because the issue is relevant to several players.

To Falconer and everyone else: this site is dead, and 'pending payments' cease to exist. It is one of the risks of playing at these start-up btc poker sites, where everyone only plays freerolls and then immediately cashes out. Wash your hands of it and move on.

I'm probably not playing as much poker of late, but I'll play here no question. Paycoin/cryptopoker ... let it go. They were always straight up with the poker players ...

This is such low class ... shilling and signature spamming in a competitor's thread. You don't add any value Xiao ... I'm asking mods to delete you post.

And yes, you've done this before several times - f*ck off already.

I'm a professional Mike ... and I've heard it all before. Enjoy your kool-aid while it lasts.

Not by any traditional measures. Amazon is not profitable, and cannot sustain indefinitely in its current state. This is a bald fact, that is plain for anybody to see in their reported earnings.

Now if you want to be creative, and start calling 'free shipping' a type of 'investment' rather than expense as it is properly reported, then perhaps you can make such a statement.

Services that I have used and recommend (with minor caveats w/ each):

Bitfinex
796xChange
Coinut


Bitfinex provides the least amount of leverage, I believe, but perhaps the longest running and 'most trusted' of the three.

I've found 796xChange to be helpful and consistent. For assistance you have to either send an e-mail and wait for ~12-24hr response, or call them during business hours in HK, which I have done. They've always been on the ball with me. The best thing to do is open an account and fund it with just a small amount of coin. Use that to give the site a trial run. There is a learning curve with any of these sites. If I want to take a levered long or short position this is a preferred platform for me, along with Bitfinex.

Coinut just launched, and their website/service is still first-run beta version. I've been using this site for a couple weeks and I really like what they are trying to build. You can get tremendous leverage with their options, but of course with that leverage come tremendous risk. Options allow you to profit from flat or sideways markets ... which explains why I like this feature at the moment ...

I'd recommend you give them all a try, learn the strengths and weaknesses, and use the one that fits your needs and interests best.

Hi Carra,

Looks like I'm a 'senior member' now. Not sure if you have space/budget for me to switch from 'full' to 'senior' member, but I go ahead and change my signature now, and just hope for the best.

Thanks.

For example, Xapo ... they have some minor income streams as people mentioned, but these are not 'paying the bills' anytime soon.


Xapo investors have deep pockets, and they are building a franchise for the long-term, with potentially very lucrative income streams that are not actionable yet. For example, in the future perhaps they can facilitate safe and secure, recurring micro-payments for consumers and businesses. Anyway I'm not sure what their long-term strategy is ... but I'm sure their profitability is mapped for sometime in the distant future.

Note that Amazon.com is not even profitable yet ... because they also are still 'building the franchise.' Anyway, you can see how a business like Amazon can secure a very high valuation (multi-billion USD) without any near-term prospect of profitability.

Everyone got a $1 bonus, but no action and min cashout is $10 ... so there you are.

If I cannot see, at a glance, where the market is at, across different strikes and timeframes, I'm not going to bother 'making an order.' There are other instruments/markets that do this better.

Not to mention ... not sure I'm comfortable trusting a new site and their untested margin regime. Note margin requirements - arbitrarily set - are subject to changes 'based on market conditions.' I haven't seen any explanation of how margin calls will be handled. Likely they are automated to some degree ... uggh.

I finally spent some time familiarizing with the vanilla options ... I'm guessing Coinut is getting minimal volume with these?

The structure and pricing is not intuitive at all. For example, if we look at the 225 calls priced at .000511/.000619 ... it is not immediately clear at what level one would be profitable on either side. (Yes we can do the calculations, but nobody wants to be punching their calculator in a fast market.) Perhaps the contract size would work better at 0.1 btc, with the option prices stated in US$? The prices would be convertible to btc at the moment of order submission, at the current index value.

Currently I use the binary options to position for a flat-to-rising market. If I want to hedge or take a speculative long, for the time being I would probably look elsewhere ...

Against my better judgement I played here today, won the tournament, but the prize was not credited to my account.

This place is officially dead ...

Well, I lost my whole $25 in about 10 minutes of play. Short handed, short stacked, and card dead. That's how I roll, lol ...