So GMAX is trolling Roger Ver. How come he didn't put #rekt in the thread title? putting a sleazy looking gambling site on Bitcoin.com (and filling the site with pro ethereum news).
Of course, when he's right he's right. Great example of iCEBREAKER's Razor: " Sufficiently advanced thought leadership is indistinguishable from trolling." What other sleazy subdomains can we suggest Bitcoin Judas use in his futile efforts to exploit the regrettably overpriced premium bitcoin dot com domain? Porn.bitcoin.com and xxx.bitcoin.com would complement the casino for a seamless Las Vegas blackjack + hookers vibe. TaxProtester.bitcoin.com, to cover political issues close to Roger's heart attorney and criminal record. IhateGregMaxwell.bitcoin.com and FreeTx4EVA.bitcoin.com, for all the latest anti-BlockSchemeNorthCorea agitprop. WhinyRagequit.bitcoin.com, featuring all the latest maudlin Goodbye Cruel Bitcoin World self harm. Dash.bitcoin.com, so the most pro-Klassique altcoin cult has a designated place to use Gavinista FUD for pumping their bad crypto/snake oil marketing instamined shitcoin. A16Z.bitcoin.com and R3.bitcoin.com, for all the latest anti-cypherpunk, pro-authoritarian banksters with a Satoshi-wannabee predilection. This is fun; I can't wait to hear what subs Gmax suggests!
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[distracting off-topic flamebait]
Yes, let's all stop talking about the Bitmain's false advertising of p2pool support, because of completely unrelated old scam accusations that had their day in court and went nowhere.
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The problem isn't the lack of p2pool options or lack of good pool alternatives. The problem is that the people who owns the hardware has no interest in using those. The problem is Bitmain/Antpool told us they would support p2pool when it was to their marketing benefit, then never did anything else. They didn't even bother to remove the false advertising from the OP. Quick, drag up some ancient affair you can use a cudgel for bashing me! Whether or not Gmax and I were low information "victims" lacking agency (or sophisticated gamblers taking a calculated risk) is just your attempt to change the subject to a completely irrelevant controversy from years in the past. No, this is an attempt by you and Gmaxwell to somehow make the HK agreement null and void by dragging some irrelevant little niggle into it all. But yeah, Antpool should remove all mention of P2pool if they have no intention of going through with it. Or even better, remove it until they have a solution. But that's about it. Maybe they'll get to it when the block size issue has been resolved. Wow, you managed to entirely agree with our conclusion ("Antpool should remove all mention of P2pool if they have no intention of going through with it") yet still get in a couple of bitchy little parting shots at the messengers. The HK agreement was never valid, nor enforceable, because A. nobody is in charge of Core and thus able to make commitments on its behalf (the "Blockstream is controlling Core with Money and Evil Sorcery" meme is only still taken seriously on rbtc and bitco.in) and, B. f2pool violated the terms of the compact when they starting running Klassique. The block size issue has been resolved, but not in the way you would have preferred (sorry about that, LOL NOT REALLY ). The lopsided victory of Core over XT and Klassique made you angry, hence your butthurt and eagerness to use anything you can from my past to attack me for daring to hold Bitmain responsible for their false "we support p2pool" advertising.
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The problem isn't the lack of p2pool options or lack of good pool alternatives. The problem is that the people who owns the hardware has no interest in using those. The problem is Bitmain/Antpool told us they would support p2pool when it was to their marketing benefit, then never did anything else. They didn't even bother to remove the false advertising from the OP. Quick, drag up some ancient affair you can use a cudgel for bashing me! Whether or not Gmax and I were low information "victims" lacking agency (or sophisticated gamblers taking a calculated risk) is just your attempt to change the subject to a completely irrelevant controversy from years in the past.
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I didn't pre-order from HashFast. In fact, every ASIC I ever ordered has been delivered (It's called "due diligence", you might want to look it up). Most of them from Bitmain. Which makes it a bit strange to see someone like you make a big stink about a shitty little feature which isn't relevant anyway. It's kind of like bicyclists who think they're saving the world by sweating their way to work.
Gmaxwells claims are completely disconnected from reality. The overwhelming majority of antpools hashing power comes from their own farms, and none of the people who understand what p2pool is genuinely thinks that's what antpool is offering. The fact that Gregory tries to use this, in some weird way, to nullify the HK agreement is beyond stupid. The fact that his lapdog iCEBREAKER is given the task of causing a stink in Bitmain related threads just goes to show that he's completely lost.
I saw him whining to Peter Todd about "misinformation" and "poor communication". If he stopped hanging in the Classic #REKT thread, ditched his cry-buddy iCEBREAKER and grew some balls, he could contribute to the conversation and try to make things work with the miners. Maybe even along terms he is comfortable with. Bitcoin isn't a joke any more, it's an industry. And like it or not, he's one of its leaders. As is Jihan. If Gregory is willing to get out of the trenches then it's in Jihans interest to hear what he has to say. But this barrage of immature attacks might become more costly than Maxwell is able to bear soon. My God, you certainly do like to rant about how much Gmax hurts your delicate feelings. We did our DD on HF. You are insulting us to imply DD on HF would have somehow predicted future changes in price/difficulty would ultimately drive them out of business. Why don't you use that cudgel to bash everyone who ordered from HF/Cointerra/KNC, etc? Why is it just me who isn't allowed to lose a risky bet on a pre-order without some n00b assclown like you stalking/reminding me forever? Bitcoin's decentralization is not "a shitty little feature which isn't relevant anyway." P2pool could play a large role in preserving Bitcoin's decentralization. Bitmain/Antpool used that fact to gain customers, but never followed through. Their false advertising is not "just bad PR" (your asinine, pedestrian concern) but bad for Bitcoin.
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I see you've wisely chosen to stop petulantly and ignorantly disputing my demonstrably correct use of the word canard. Next time, don't question my mastery of word usage, or I shall have to teach you additional lessons in vocabulary. Here is an Ayn Rand fan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcF4A0dox1o...discussing Bitcoin and blockchain derivatives before the CFTC. Chin up, didn't mean to shit on your fandom! I'm sure you're a unique, special snowflake & nothing at all like 99% of the Randian losers. *And Ayn totally doesn't look like a transbro, that's just mean. Judging people by their looks is wrong. Your trolling is priceless! So creative of you to come to a libertarian techie board and start spewing anti-libertarian/anti-Objectivist defamation and canards. LMK when you address the CFTC (I won't hold my breath). Say hi to Prof. Trolfi for me. I haven't seen him around lately, perhaps he's too busy furiously exchanging his collapsing Brazilian ShitFiat for the Buttcoins he claims to despise...
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So what you're saying is, we should wait to see what coin the porn industry gets behind (giggity)?
Clearly, more research into this topic is required.
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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization
We support p2pool protocol*
*not really
That's great! Surely OP will deliver! (time passes)[img ]https://i.imgur.com/t8ASuFn.jpg[/img] More than HashFast CoinTerra ASICMINER Spondoolies KNC. Fixed that for you. No comment on Bitmain's P2Pool status? Nice (off-topic, flamebaiting) shitpost. Just thought I'd mention it. I don't know why they haven't just pulled the plug completely on their p2pool project. It's just bad PR by now. Then again, I don't see why an [expletive deleted] like yourself would want to stir up shit about it. Especially considering your past affiliations. I'm sorry you are too stupid and n00bish to realize ASIC pre-orders are risky and many high tech start-ups fail due to adverse business conditions. I'd hoped the long list of other bankrupt miner manufacturers would clue you in, but no, you are just too fucking stupid to get it. Gmax reminded us about Bitmain's broken promises regarding p2pool: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4l564f/bitcoin_core_nonirc_meeting_summary_for_20160520/d3kefgbI want antpool to make good on their promises to use P2Pool-- promises which which pretty much killed P2Pool by diverting hashrate away from it--, promises which they still advertise ... But not all wishes are realistic. He was, like me, a Hashfast customer, although we strenuously disagree about many details in that fiasco. Does this help you understand how fucking stupid it is to judge everything someone does by an unrelated past association?
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[generic butthurt pleb pouting about #1 bestselling and most influential writer of all time]
I see you've wisely chosen to stop petulantly and ignorantly disputing my demonstrably correct use of the word canard. Next time, don't question my mastery of word usage, or I shall have to teach you additional lessons in vocabulary. Here is an Ayn Rand fan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcF4A0dox1o...discussing Bitcoin and blockchain derivatives before the CFTC.
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"BUT ZOMG WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS?" is neither a story nor is it false. I see your problem is much more profound than simple lack of learningz And you also believe Ayn Rand has something to do with child abuse?
See the boldface text above, which you have artfully redacted. But sure, Rand's problems may be linked to child abuse, though that's irrelevant Ayn Rand was abused as a child, by Bolshevik state terror in the Soviet Union. That's why she came to the USA. Duh. Although popular among plebs such as yourself, the belief that only the State can build roads is false, and thus may be referred to as a canard. EG: https://plus.google.com/104129125369341849767/posts/9egh1Jgrmt9Just one of the questions that trumps the "but who will build the roads?" canard. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-11/ben-carson-endorses-donald-press-conference-live-feed#comment-7301546I do give you credit though, at least you didn't throw out the other tired canard: "but, but, who will build the roads?!" LOL what a dumbarse. LOL what a dumbarse, indeed.
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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization
We support p2pool protocol*
*not really
That's great! Surely OP will deliver! (time passes)[img ]https://i.imgur.com/t8ASuFn.jpg[/img] More than HashFast CoinTerra ASICMINER Spondoolies KNC. Fixed that for you. No comment on Bitmain's P2Pool status? Nice (off-topic, flamebaiting) shitpost.
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I'm generally skeptical of Randian libertards, as I have yet to meet one who would actually want to live in the world they argue for. Recently I challenged my local neighborhood libertard in a thought experiment. Since he always says "private property is the foundation of wealth and modern capitalism", I told him that logically he would favor a world where EVERYWHERE is private property. He bit this hook, and hilarity ensued...
So you stumped him with the old "BUT ZOMG WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS?" canard? Pls read before trotting out ur hobby horse >canard and learn what words mean before using them. I'm the last person you want to challenge on word usage. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/canardPopularity: Top 40% of words
Simple Definition of canard
: a false report or story : a belief or rumor that is not true
And you also believe Ayn Rand has something to do with child abuse? http://atlassociety.org/commentary/commentary-blog/4274-children-s-rightsWhile children do have the full rights of adults, they deserve to have their right to live and not suffer violent attack respected. Stupid hippie. Did you take too much brown acid at Woodstock?
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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization
We support p2pool protocol
That's great! Surely OP will deliver! (time passes)
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I've finally got around $20k to invest in long-term. No, unfortunately I cannot put this on a bank to get like 10-15% per year, I'd need something way more good.
What would you recommend? Mining? Other crypto? A bank isn't going to give you anywhere near "10-15% per year." Welcome to the era of ZIRP & NIRP. The cornerstone of any rational portfolio is physical bullion. You can supplement such non-growth assets with mining companies. Then you have ULTRA-HIGH-RISK crypto, which may be the new gold/silver but is fighting intense Flynn Effects from 50k years of bullion dominance. 1/3 Bullion (1/9 gold + 1/9 silver + 1/9 platinum) 1/3 Mining (1/9 Hecla + 1/9 New Gold + 1/9 Agnico Eagle) 1/3 Crypto (1/9 BTC + 1/9 LTC + 1/9 XMR)^Is approximately what I'm doing, except for the AEM and LTC (waiting for an irresistible buying/rebalancing opportunity). *If* you want to stay alert and active, knock those three categories down to 25% each, and keep 25% in cash so you have dry powder for when there's blood in the streets.
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The wealth concentration effects of masternodes are significant, versus any other way of getting paid in DASH or virtually any other cryptocurrency (as a former miner, that's why I'm here and just run MNs now. ). Developers who submit and execute proposals in return for DASH don't get compound returns, nor do miners, unless they put 1000 DASH to work from their earnings in a MN. Miners must periodically sell old, sometimes worthless hardware and re-invest in upgrades just to keep up, which is a tough job IMO but I'm glad we have enthusiasts that do it. I'm not saying any of this as a criticism against DASH. The compound effects are just a fact.
I run a few MNs myself and have successfuly started new ones based just on prior MN payments. Thank you for your honesty w/r/t Masternode compounding effects. You are perhaps the only DashHole not using hand-waving to dismiss the significance of this "feature." It's intensely dishonest for the others to deny the wealth-compounding Masternode reinvestment "Rich Get Richer" effect exists, and then in the next breath (or post) justify that supposedly non-existent effect in terms of risk.
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DASH has some serious competitors...like LISK, WAVES, DECRED and ETH. What's your opinion?
Chaotic dynamic systems are sensitive to initial conditions. Dash's initial conditions (the massive instamine, radical emission cut, and centralized governance) forever damn it to Shitcoin Hell. Those others, which featured legitimate/fair launches, stable emission schedules, and decentralized governance, have much better chances of accomplishing their goals. Dash is trying to make up for its history and bad crypto with paid marketing and rah-rah-rah Dash Nation cheerleading, but that won't work.
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Really? Pulling support behind the wall as well people? I ate All I can now. Sack up boys.
Anyone know who's wall it is? yes or no is a fine answer.
Is this wall a pumping attempt? will it be removed by the buyer or eaten by the seller? Dump some more into it and find out! If that wall gets pulled will someone pm me so I can grab some M0ah, I hate to leave margin bids out there. Fortune favors the bold.... (*leaves margin bids out there*) Anyway, nice to see at least ONE other person got my "I dunno, dump into it and find out LOOOL" joke! No idea who owns that wall, but I like to imagine it's a combination of ferretinjapan and other disgruntled Gavinistas diversifying out of BTC.
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Stick a fork in it, indeed.
How can this be; I was told by Veritas that Bitcoin would die without 2 MB blocks and that DASH would be the next top cryptocurrency??? DASH and Klassique are both committed to Bitcoin's pre-0.12.1 code, Now & Forever. Moving forward would require them to (at least implicitly) admit their own devs are inferior to Core's, which is unthinkable given the amount of cognitive dissonance such a paradigm shift would entail. That means they will never benefit from current efforts to pour a foundation sufficiently sturdy to scale Blockchain ® upon. No CLTV/CSV for DashHoles and Gavinista dead-enders. No RBF for those superstitious cargo cultists. No SEGWIT either, and thus no sidechains or payment channels. (Good luck with those trusted 3rd party MadoffNodes! I'm 100% sure tx malleability won't be an issue! /s) No crypto chocolate candy from Elements Alpha. No Schnorr, so no tree signatues. Those idiots don't even understand the power they are voluntarily relinquishing and advantages they are voluntarily handing (on a silver platter) to Core and Monero. EDIT: Thank Eris for the bug zapper forum, so we no longer have to put up with sophomoric FSA/SJW idiocy like this:
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If I rent a GPU farm, can I run CryptoNight (Monero's PoW) on it?
EDIT: Any plans to offer CPU farms?
EDIT2: What about BBR's Wild Keccak?
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It's overvalued crap and a pre-mine scam. It's as valuable as XRP, namely zero.
But Ripple had a market cap of $850 million. The markets can't be wrong, right? FWIW, I'm not really as negative about Ethereum as many people, but the annoying Eth supporters who show up convinced their coin is going to "take BTC crown" are at least as annoying as the Ripple supporters were back then. The story, by the way, is much the same. Corporate support that Bitcoin will never have, etc., etc. Markets may be wrong longer than you remain solvent and only tend towards (or at best oscillate around) rational state space given sufficient time. That's because perfect markets only exist in theory, whereas the real world is constrained by lossy compression artifacts due to reification/communication byproducts of misinformation. Like BTC, I see ETH as an excellent complement to XMR. Since ETH won't provide privacy/unlinkability/untraceability at the protocol level, there is a perfect fit role for XMR as the anonymous on/off ramp into and out of ETH smart contracts. In the syllogism BTC:XMR::salt:pepper, ETH is sweet, irreplaceable Sriracha.
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