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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: June 19, 2017, 04:28:00 AM
I don't know man every time I play dice or any game that you can lose fast or win fast just with a few clicks I can feel my heart tapping on my throat
loool, how about you?

I normally dont bet a lot when am playing playing, i just make sure to accumulate a lot of profits and bet most of them at single bet and see if i will make some profit and its true you will be very nervous when playing dice. I like it because you will know whether you won or lost in a very short time.

Dice games is the best, easy, and fast way to earn bitcoin and it is also the best, easy, and fast way to lost all of your bitcoins in an instant. The risk is very high and therefore your heart is go pounding high because deep inside you know that you will lose at anytime.
1902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 04:25:53 AM
no easy way to gain profits from gambling i know several people who gamble yea they will have a big score here and there but they will lose the majority of the time, the best bet is to gain a skill say poker learn the game learn the percentages learn to read people give yourself every advantage there is and chances are ul win more than you lose getting good at something doesnt happen over night.

They will lose for sure because in the long term everyone will lose. I keep losing no matter it is long term or not, that what made me frustated and stop playing for profit. It is much safer for me to play for fun because I can keep on doing this without afraid to break the bank, if I play for profit then I wont be able to sustain it
That's true, that's because the house edge goes faster and it's possible that everything has become a sad thing. You would be losing all the time if you are not controlling yourself and disciplining yourself in your games. It's not always going to be positive and gambling has always high risk.

If you have many winning streak, you better force yourself to stop already because the bounce back of that is the house edge advantage will come to play. That is really the reason why casino is thriving because of house edge advantage so you must have that in your mind at all times.
That's true, it's somewhat rigged but it's definitely not because there are people who check the integrity of sites (I hope there is) and plays the possible plays and I hope that they manage to do that on their own. Players should be aware if the casino is cheating on them. It's going to be effective probably.

I don't believe that leading sites are rigged because there are third party that determines the integrity of each bet. What happened usually is that, when gamblers win, it is ok; but when the gambler loses, he/she will suspect that online casinos are rigged. No, they are not. What happens and in play actually is the house edge advantage.
1903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: June 19, 2017, 04:19:47 AM
I do not have any strategy in the dice game, I bet and let my instincts take me and just rely on luck to win. So I think strategy is not needed in dice games, most importantly you do not get greedy in gambling.


There can be a strategy to be used in the game of dice. Some of these strategies are the following: managing bankroll, creating several sessions, calculated bet amount and number of bets, no emotion betting, and the like.. These strategies are not guarantee that you will always win though because no strategy does it - there will always be a winning and losing games..

As long as one play this game for fun then all these methods can be explored with a small amount each time and enjoy our time. But people gamble to make money then they are the one worried much because they can't win money from any of these methods. These games are designed to have fun and you can win money only if you're very lucky.

Those methods are designed to mitigate risks by not losing all of your bankroll in one time betting session. It is better than without having any strategies at all. But yes, I agree with you that at the end of the day, you will lose more than win in gambling due to house edge advantage.
1904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 19, 2017, 03:58:55 AM
I understand your point but honestly gambling is more associated with big losses than wins and the odds are, of course against you, otherwise the casino would not survive. Then again one does not have to stick to gambling to earn money. You can play the EV+ games and sports betting which are more profitable. Then also you can try bitcoin vs fiat trading which is much better than gambling in my opinion.

Of course it is much better in making profit but I dont have fun trading. Some people dont want to gamble but they enjoy trading. I am not different than them , I just have different preference . I want to enjoy as much fun as I can that is why I keep playing because I feel fun when I play and everyone has their own taste on this

Trading is not fun game mate, and one more thing trading is not a game like gambling, so it will not give you any entertainment. Only you can get knowledge from this trading. You will know how the market will work and it will help you to do fiat currency trading. Other than this don't expect anything from trading. You are looking for fun and entertainment then for you gambling is suitable.
Trading can be still fun but not the same of fun we do feel on playing gambling because on trading its really a serious matter because we do make trades and we would really like to execute profitable ones.If we are serious then chances of getting good trades and making money is there and thats should how we act. Gambling is just really for fun nothing more.

you got a point. Gambling is more fun and it is really designed to give entertainment to players. That is really how it is. That is why, when gambling we should only play for fun and entertainment with the money that we can afford to lose.
Definitely, gambling is fun especially if you are winning but if you have done limits to yourself then probably you would have been better to efficiency in your profits. Gambling shouldn't be treated as a priority in your expenses because it would just cost you a lot more and probably more problems to receive.

in gambling you should only use a money that is very small enough that it wont really affect or hurt your budget and then play and have fun. That is really we are after for - to have fun and be entertained. If we otherwise focus on earning profit out of gambling, then we are really will be frustrated along the way.
1905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 19, 2017, 03:47:38 AM
block yourself from all gambling sites, sign yourself out of casinos, get some help best advice i can give to you i workin a casino and i can tell you it ruins lives for some cause they cant stay away.
I guess that's not a very good way. Blocking yourself from all the gambling sites does make us pause, but the internet is too easy to navigate, sometimes we can unblock or we can easily create a new account to get into the gambling site. This might work, but it's a bit vulnerable.

Blocking ourselves in gambling sites is one of the ways to get out of gambling. But this should not only be the way. The best thing to do after that is to do something else that is more valuable and busy yourself around it so that you will have no idle time wherein you can have the chances of thinking of gambling again.
1906  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: June 19, 2017, 03:42:59 AM
The way to make banks disappear is to organize boycotts and for business owners to cut banks out of their business.

Bitcoin wasn't developed to compete with banks in areas of loans or high speed transactions like credit cards.

Crypto isn't likely to replace banks anytime soon.

That is true. Bitcoin was never built to compete and much even eradicate banks. They are just alternative to online transactions. Banks will never disappear anytime soon and it may just adopt bitcoins along the way but not necessarily be eradicated.
1907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 19, 2017, 03:39:33 AM
There is nothing wrong with gambling because it is fun and entertaining. No one knows when gambling can be beneficial or huge lost because it is all due to luck and skills probably the ratio is 90% luck and 10% skill. There is only one thing that is bad when it comes to gambling and that is the word Greed. With you being greedy it will just lead to bigger lose. So when you do gambling just think of it as a source of enjoyment  not gaining profit.

So true. Just play on it just for fun and enjoy while it last. Don't bother to think of it as a means to earn. Go find a suitable and stable job for you. Because if you think that gambling can be a good source of income for you and your family, you are dead wrong. Play for fun and not for profit and for sure everything will be fine with you.

I could not agree more to you. Treating gambling as a source of income for your family is really a BIG BIG wrong idea. You will surely be frustrated and stresses will eat you alive. The most thing that will happen is that you only not earn any money for your family but you are also selling all of your properties and belongings - what then can you say to your kids?
That's just common sense. Why would you even use that as a source of income when the risk of having a large winning amount there is low. It's better to use the money that you are going to bet to a better place because, in gambling, that's just going to eat it up if you fail to deliver in your games, you should be thinking of the possibility of winning the amount. Just be satisfied with what you have and find alternatives.

That is true. and even if it is just common sense, the sad truth is that, there are still people that fall prey in gambling more than they can afford to lose and therefore affecting their family relationship and even lost all of their hard earned properties
1908  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 19, 2017, 03:37:25 AM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me

i'm newbie too  Grin, if  i'm trading i make choice the altcoin down under 30% and volume btc min. 0.5 BTC.
i usually trading on bittrex. becarefull before trading you must look about the coin, how much total supply the coin, volume market the coin and etc.


I'm also a beginner, well as for my experience, I start earning first my btc then when I have a capital
and I start trading in what I have or I can. You must also feed yourself with more knowledge and know
the strategical way in trading. Then after that your btc will multiply in more than you can profit.

One of the best strategy would be, earn bitcoins through signature campaign and never trade just yet; while earning bitcoins through signature campaign, you equip yourself with all the knowledge and skills about trading as much as you can; and when you are ready to trade, do a small amount of bankkroll to test your trading skills and then slowly rising up your bankroll where you are comfortable.
1909  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 19, 2017, 03:21:44 AM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me
0.01 btc is the best amount to invest for the beginners. You are a beginner here so I prefer to you to gain first btc for you to have a capital to invest. I prefer to you to join in some signature campaign.

Agree if you are not really want to risk your money to invest some of the coins then better to join a signature campaigns then save it until you get the exact capital you want in trading . Then after that you will start your trading journey but dont leave your signature campaign so that you can also earn at the same time learning the world of trading and your earning on that sig camp is you will add it later in your capital

This is a very wise  advice. Signature campaign is a good way to earn bitcoins nowadays. Before, when I was just starting the signature campaign, my monthly bitcoin earnings from sig campaign is now my weekly income - I guess more than that even.
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 19, 2017, 03:19:39 AM
Gambling is not for a long term profit.Gambling is a game its either you can win or lose.But if you're a wise player dont play your capital,play your profit and save and keep it so that you will not be a loser.But if you invest your money in a big time gambling like casino your profit is gaining but if it is just a small time gambling its not for long term.

It is, but only for those who are lucky in gambling who are always winning, but if you know that you are not like this, then better to stay away from gambling, because instead of earning money, you are just going to lose your money, going to be addicted on it and so on. The only reason why gambling is profitable for someone is because he is always winning and just winning.

Majority of gamblers will lose more than they win -  that is really the hard truth and reality because it was already calculated by the house edge advantage. We should only play for fun and entertainment with the money we can afford to lose.
1911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: June 19, 2017, 03:18:10 AM
Bitcoin may not make the bank disappear!
Because not everyone in the world knows bitcoin,
Although people in the world know bitcoin, only some of them will put their money in bitcoin, there are some say that the use of bitcoin is difficult
Today of course it can't but we are talking about the future... When paper money was invented not everyone knew that, but today everyone (99%) use it. I think the society will have to accept Bitcoin before it will make big impact on economy and world overall. But the problem is that many people (most influential people in the world) are making a lot of money with economy system we have, so there is a big chance they will try to stop Cryptocurrencies. Only time can show us what is going to happen. Smiley


after all, it is really depend on each people's appetite. in my case, i am investing to bitcoin right now and see its bright future. While other people are so negative and anxious with bitcoins future, there are people that are making a fortune with bitcoin right now. I really learned it the hard way around - I have several bitcoins before and i don't see its value so I just spend them on gambling sites - i was wrong!
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 19, 2017, 03:14:20 AM
There is nothing wrong with gambling because it is fun and entertaining. No one knows when gambling can be beneficial or huge lost because it is all due to luck and skills probably the ratio is 90% luck and 10% skill. There is only one thing that is bad when it comes to gambling and that is the word Greed. With you being greedy it will just lead to bigger lose. So when you do gambling just think of it as a source of enjoyment  not gaining profit.

So true. Just play on it just for fun and enjoy while it last. Don't bother to think of it as a means to earn. Go find a suitable and stable job for you. Because if you think that gambling can be a good source of income for you and your family, you are dead wrong. Play for fun and not for profit and for sure everything will be fine with you.

I could not agree more to you. Treating gambling as a source of income for your family is really a BIG BIG wrong idea. You will surely be frustrated and stresses will eat you alive. The most thing that will happen is that you only not earn any money for your family but you are also selling all of your properties and belongings - what then can you say to your kids?
1913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 19, 2017, 03:10:28 AM
     For me, Quiting for gambling for good is depends on people if he is willing to do that. It can be hard to do those person who has became addict in gambling but He can control himself to avoid going to casino and waggering his money. He has a mind set that he can really quit/ avoid to gambling. Or maybe he can do a step by step procedure on how to quit gambling.

     But in my opinion, instead of waste his money in gambling try to spend it in better ways like buy clothes to yourself, treat you family in the restaurant or save it in your bank account, much better to spend it  in this way rather than in gambling.


I agree with you Basyang that instead of gambling your money, you better use it to treat your family on the restaurant and even buying some stuffs that you like. The point is, in gambling, we should only use money that we can afford to lose and should have majority of your money use in good investment and loved one expenses.
That's true, you could just use your money for priorities like the necessities in life and treating your family and friends. It's not that easy but definitely it's one of the things that should be taken care of easily. Expenses are better used properly and gambling shouldn't be one of the priorities unless there is a sure thing that you could earn from it.

True. Gambling should only be treated for fun and entertainment of course, with the amount that you can afford to lose and that is it - no aiming to earn bigger profits because you will just get frustrated Smiley
1914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 19, 2017, 03:08:17 AM
I understand your point but honestly gambling is more associated with big losses than wins and the odds are, of course against you, otherwise the casino would not survive. Then again one does not have to stick to gambling to earn money. You can play the EV+ games and sports betting which are more profitable. Then also you can try bitcoin vs fiat trading which is much better than gambling in my opinion.

Of course it is much better in making profit but I dont have fun trading. Some people dont want to gamble but they enjoy trading. I am not different than them , I just have different preference . I want to enjoy as much fun as I can that is why I keep playing because I feel fun when I play and everyone has their own taste on this

Trading is not fun game mate, and one more thing trading is not a game like gambling, so it will not give you any entertainment. Only you can get knowledge from this trading. You will know how the market will work and it will help you to do fiat currency trading. Other than this don't expect anything from trading. You are looking for fun and entertainment then for you gambling is suitable.
Trading can be still fun but not the same of fun we do feel on playing gambling because on trading its really a serious matter because we do make trades and we would really like to execute profitable ones.If we are serious then chances of getting good trades and making money is there and thats should how we act. Gambling is just really for fun nothing more.

you got a point. Gambling is more fun and it is really designed to give entertainment to players. That is really how it is. That is why, when gambling we should only play for fun and entertainment with the money that we can afford to lose.
1915  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 19, 2017, 03:06:17 AM
You need to find out what your main skills are, work on them, improve them and make money out of it.

And by doing this you can have a decent job and be employed with a good company and get compensation that is acceptable. Also if you are already employed, you can still get to be hired through other companies by being their freelancer and that is very popular nowadays. You get a real job and has stable income while working part time.

That is true, when we hone our skills, we can make money out of it. Well, the best skill will be digital marketing, seo, programming, and other online related skills because it pays handsomely while you are working at home.
1916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: June 19, 2017, 03:02:05 AM
If you don't know anything about trading or currently following some other persons signals then please continue with gambling because there are very less people in this world who would really help you to earn from trading. Gambling on other hand is more riskier than trading , if you feel trading isn't your thing and quit the fact of increasing your bitcoins as gambling has more risks but surely more reward

Both of trading and gambling has its own risk but yes, I agree that gambling is more riskier than trading. However, be well aware that you must have a good foundation of trading skill before you even start gambling because you will surely have more losing than winning trades unless you are lucky though Wink
1917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 03:00:07 AM
no easy way to gain profits from gambling i know several people who gamble yea they will have a big score here and there but they will lose the majority of the time, the best bet is to gain a skill say poker learn the game learn the percentages learn to read people give yourself every advantage there is and chances are ul win more than you lose getting good at something doesnt happen over night.

They will lose for sure because in the long term everyone will lose. I keep losing no matter it is long term or not, that what made me frustated and stop playing for profit. It is much safer for me to play for fun because I can keep on doing this without afraid to break the bank, if I play for profit then I wont be able to sustain it
That's true, that's because the house edge goes faster and it's possible that everything has become a sad thing. You would be losing all the time if you are not controlling yourself and disciplining yourself in your games. It's not always going to be positive and gambling has always high risk.

If you have many winning streak, you better force yourself to stop already because the bounce back of that is the house edge advantage will come to play. That is really the reason why casino is thriving because of house edge advantage so you must have that in your mind at all times.
1918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 19, 2017, 02:55:33 AM
Gambling is basically a game which is totally depends on luck, sometimes it brings good luck and sometimes it's not. In my opinion, there is no short cut way to become rich but many of us are waiting for good luck and day by day they are getting addicted to gambling in this way.

It is all bad luck for me because I seldom win. I am addicted not because I win but because I have been playing alot and that makes me addicted however I play for other reason now, I play for fun and Im happy. It might not be my way of getting rich from it but atleast it is a way for me to be happy when I play with it
I do not understand how you get pleasure from your loss?
I can only be happy in playing gambling if I get profit from it, but if I get lost from gambling, I do not get any fun at all.

As what they have said in gambling, if it is not fun anymore, better stop it at once. That is really true!  Our aim in gambling should only be for fun and if we are not having fun anymore, better stop already. I know it is hard to control but if you can't control your urge to stop, better don't gamble at all.
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 19, 2017, 02:49:41 AM
     For me, Quiting for gambling for good is depends on people if he is willing to do that. It can be hard to do those person who has became addict in gambling but He can control himself to avoid going to casino and waggering his money. He has a mind set that he can really quit/ avoid to gambling. Or maybe he can do a step by step procedure on how to quit gambling.

     But in my opinion, instead of waste his money in gambling try to spend it in better ways like buy clothes to yourself, treat you family in the restaurant or save it in your bank account, much better to spend it  in this way rather than in gambling.


I agree with you Basyang that instead of gambling your money, you better use it to treat your family on the restaurant and even buying some stuffs that you like. The point is, in gambling, we should only use money that we can afford to lose and should have majority of your money use in good investment and loved one expenses.
1920  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: June 19, 2017, 02:45:21 AM
The only site where I have been registered on where I see an option where you can invest in the casino is on yolodice.
But I hear also cryptogames does as well but I am not on there so I can not say how that works and how much they pay out at the end of the investment term you pay into.

But on the one I am on it is a good amount just for depositing into the site's bankroll..
which I play on myself so it is a solid investment for me. Grin
There are lot more sites with investment option(safedice,bitdice,bitvest), you should visit other sites too. diversified investment is a lot better than investing in just one.
AFAIK crypto-games is currently highest bankrolled site with 5000 BTC invested in total.

Yes, it is a good thing to diversify your funds to reduce the losses. In all casino investment, past profits are only for reference and there is no guaranty that they give you same profit in future as well. So it is always good to diversify your money into few good casinos to avoid any sudden losses due to someone wins huge amount from any one site.

Diversifying investment is the way to mitigate risks - no putting all of the egg in one basket. There will always a time that one of our investment will godown and everything will be covered by other investment of ours.
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