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1941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: June 13, 2017, 12:40:31 AM
Bitcoin is being used widely in porn sites, gambling and drug dealing sectors. Is that why the btc made for ? I have seen a lot of members in this forum discussing about buying drugs, gambling and enjoying porn with bitcoin. Is not it a misuse of a currency ? Block chain tech is a awesome tech and btc is getting popular. I hate these misuses of precious btc. It hurts me. This will lead into unhealthy society along with unhealthy future generation.

you forget to mention bitcoin for a ransom.
like ransomware wannacry virus.
and you know what, few years ago, there are a terrorist in indonesia that want to be paid in bitcoin.
this is bring the bitcoin to the next level of crime.

I also heard that some illegal transactions are being made through altcoins due to its anonymity. But hey, illegal transactions are being made even with fiat money. The point is, we should weight bitcoin by its use, convenience, and value than by this isolated illegal transactions.

Indeed,we must see the more importance of btc, its role and its application we cant really knew what other thing it can offer to us,but its too beneficial to lose.

That is right Warfika, we should focus and explore more on what we can do with bitcoins because it is just too good to lose. That is precisely the reason why its price is getting higher and higher due to its benefits.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 13, 2017, 12:05:55 AM
Quiting gambling for good is nice for me because we say that gambling can ruined our life if we still consider as gambling our job of taking some money. But in the end gambling would take youre money in a long run. So for the better leave it now until they get all your money in just a couple of minutes haha

Those gamblers that are treating gambling as a job are the ones that cannot quit gambling for good. This is the industry that they think which can help them easily to earn money. And even they wanted to quit gambling that will be difficult for them because it is the only way they know where they can earn money very fast. They should look for a real job first.
they won't leave gambling when they make it as a career , just take a look to a professional poker player they would just keep moving forward unless they are decided to retire . but for those people who have problem with gambling and won't get addicted and have bigger problem , then to quit gambling for good are reasonable . the question how simply just about keep thinking about the motivation why you have to leave? family reason? financial damage reason? keep thinking about it!

For me the best signal to stop or just play gambling in a minimal time is when you don't feel happy or there is no fun anymore. Don't chase your losses, just stop and move on. If you want to gamble, play just like once a week or even twice a month and that is it..
1943  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: June 13, 2017, 12:02:18 AM
I think that mostly we can find out whether the site is good by the trust of the author of the official casino's OP. If that is not enough, we  can go to scam accusations thread. It is also better to avoid new casinos with unconfirmed payments, because newbies could not have recieved negative trust yet but this doesn't mean the site is not a scam. For example, hcoinloto gives you the sum in equivalent of 50$ (you can't withdraw it) to try their lottery. And every hous there are people who won but no payments confirmed and no escrow.

Better to just play to online casinos that have many players and are established in the market already. Don't ever take chances and risk to sites that are not known yet and just wait if there will be reviews and many players that will play on that site in the near future.
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 12, 2017, 11:54:20 PM

IN SPORTBETTING LONG TERM THERE IS NO LUCK  Smiley

I think you are wrong as if the player/gambler is lucky then he will earn no matter if he is in long term or in short term while if the gambler is not lucky then he will lose no matter if he is gambling for long term or short term. It all depend on luck.

Correct, though the risks that we are trying to avoid here is still there since it would be impossible to avoid because we are talking about gambling. In my opinion, gambling could be a profitable in long term, yes, but like what you have said, only those lucky in the gambling world are the ones who could make profits on gambling in the long run.

How about skilled people that knows how to use strategy in skill based games like poker and blackjack?  Won't they win in the long run ?  In my opinion they will win and be profitable in the long run because they know how to deal with the situation and know the strategy on how to beat their opponent.  

yes you are right in some games like poker and blackjack skill is very important and those people who are well skilled so they can easily win that games and they can make more profit in long term but here OP has asked about "gambling" which means all the games involve in gambling, so i will say that the majority of games depend on luck in gambling, so if the luck of a person is good then gambling can be profitable in long term but if the luck is bad then it is not profitable.   

Luck coupled with well-calculated betting strategies is the best way to go versus just depending on luck with your betting. Most of the big sharks does have strategies in place in their betting and they stick to it no matter what and they have more chances of winning than losing.
1945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at an all time high on: June 12, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
I am not agree that in this year bitcoin cross $2500. Very difficult for bitcoin price.
No doubt bitcoin is growing but instead of it bitcoin can't reach at $2500 in this year.
That price of bitcoin is already high, i never see it before.
But i repeat my talk, it is impossible for bitcoin that it will be reached at $2500 in 2017.

$2500 not achievable in 2017? The price of bitcoin has crossed $2400 in most exchanges.
There will be people who are ready to bet that $2500 will be breached in May. And you talk about $2500 not being achieved in the whole of 2017.

Bitcoin indeed passes $2500 mark. I hope it will go as far as $5000 in 2018. There will be lots of happy soul from ordinary people like us who invested in bitcoins. Of course there are already big guys who are investing in bitcoins, then there is really no reason why ordinary people like us will not invest as well.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 12, 2017, 11:45:33 PM
If you have some favorite team/games that you always watched it is an advantage for you to win and gain profits but the rewards is not that much especially for those fav team you need to have a good capital in order for you to win big because of low odd.

The point is, at least you are earning and doing rinse and repeat, you will still win big profit in the long run. Most of the gamblers loses big time, when you manage to have more winning bets than losing one, then you are good to go.
1947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: June 12, 2017, 11:43:30 PM
Bitcoin is being used widely in porn sites, gambling and drug dealing sectors. Is that why the btc made for ? I have seen a lot of members in this forum discussing about buying drugs, gambling and enjoying porn with bitcoin. Is not it a misuse of a currency ? Block chain tech is a awesome tech and btc is getting popular. I hate these misuses of precious btc. It hurts me. This will lead into unhealthy society along with unhealthy future generation.

you forget to mention bitcoin for a ransom.
like ransomware wannacry virus.
and you know what, few years ago, there are a terrorist in indonesia that want to be paid in bitcoin.
this is bring the bitcoin to the next level of crime.

I also heard that some illegal transactions are being made through altcoins due to its anonymity. But hey, illegal transactions are being made even with fiat money. The point is, we should weight bitcoin by its use, convenience, and value than by this isolated illegal transactions.
1948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: June 12, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
There's no strategy in dice game or betting! It's you who hope for a luck that you will win the game. If that's your lucky day, that would be great. Luck and have fun. Enjoy every minute of it for you to have that what you called strategy. So, don't think of what's strategy to be used to surely win the game because you might not get the same result.

In every game there is always a strategy but the problem is how effective is that strategy.  I guess even if there are several strategies for Dice, none of them can give us an advantage over the House.  We will always lose at the long run.  This kind of mentality has been proven for many times.
Much better to believe in our luck not only for making our own strategy sharing those strategy is not a good idea because in other people this is not working and its always depends in our luck so better to make our own strategy not for follow strategy from others..
i am sure you will enjoy the result..
well since we're talkinh about dice, there are no in-game strategy we can say would be effective all the time. if you're lucky then you'll win whether you use strategy or not. even the widely used martingale system doesn't guarantee a streak because again it depends in your luck for that day.

Correct. But one of the best strategies is to create several sessions and play 1 session at a time employing different kinds of betting strategies per session. This is better than just one session where you risk all of your bankroll in one game alone.
1949  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What did you do in the past 24 hours in Poloniex? on: June 12, 2017, 11:22:39 PM
I mean, in the past 24 hours, I was trying to deposit and buy altcoins because they are so tempting due to them being very cheap. However, I am afraid to deposit because it might not get through.

Question: Have you able to manage to buy and sell in polo in the past 24 hours? or have you sold your altcoins, hold? What exactly your actions during the past 24 hours?

I'm wondering?  Undecided
I just deposited around 0.1 bitcoin in Poloniex to buy some altcoins like BURST and NEM. I'm just collecting altcoins as of now and buying and keeping them for long term, In the next week i will put another 0.1 to buy another one. I'm not actively trading in Poloniex because i prefer long term rather than short term because i can earn a lot without doing anything.

Correct. Especially when you only select altcoins that are promising and backed up by great technology - it will have its low and high price which gives every trader an opportunity to profit with the said price fluctuations.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: June 12, 2017, 11:20:12 PM
I think both can be profitable but the trade will be more profitable than gambling. Gambling is mostly dependent on your luck and not on the skills you have. You are lucky you will win, and if you are unlucky you will lose everything. For trade to be different, profitability will depend on your own decision, not expecting luck, you will need a bit of skill, knowledge to make a profit. I am also involved in trading and have made a profit. Joining a trade is only difficult initially to learn the skill, but once you know how, you can earn a lot.

trading can be a way to gets profitable if we have skills in trading like you said and skills is something that we should have. i think if we want to playing gambling, we don't always to have skills and only depend with our luck to win the games. but some people is getting profitable in gambling games because they have the best luck in that games so they can win big money.

Learning trading skill is really valuable especially if you really want to go to trading route. While in gambling, there are also strategies in place but is always more riskier than trading.
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: June 12, 2017, 11:17:58 PM
I feel it every time i gamble, especially i already bet big and have a big faith that I am going to win the game, it is so exciting to have that feeling, but I can only feel that if i played manually, with autobet I can't feel that excitement
I do not think that this situation will be the excitement for anyone because this situation is a very hard situation and heartbeat make a person more nervous. I often do not want to face that situation and because of that reason I do not bet big and always keep small bets on dice game.

That is why gambling is addicting due to that excitement and thrills that it gives. We should, as much as possible, get rid of that emotions once and for all if we are really into gambling in order to profit. But if we just play for entertainment, then by all means, blow all your emotions! Smiley
It will not be an exciting game if there is no money involve, think of the possibilities in gambling you might win and lose but most of the time we lose.
When we keep losing and we feel we needed to get back our loses to be happy then it will result to spending more time in gambling which is going to make your addicted with it. Dice gives too much thrill for us because it's a luck based game and the result is instant, if we are lucky then we are happy but if not we will feel like most gamblers are feeling in time of loses.

I just imagined that very bad feeling when we lose - I lost 1 bitcoin in just few minutes and then loses another bitcoin in almost an hour hoping that I will get even, but turned out that I lost those 2 bitcoins in an hour and few minutes. I felt really bad to the bones - I just don't imagine how would I feel if it happens now where the price of bitcoin is high.
1952  Economy / Services / Re: Get paid in Bitcoin for simple data entry (solving captchas). on: June 12, 2017, 11:10:32 PM
This thread was created since last year but I don't have an idea anymore if this is still active and running, I worked for this before. This job is not connected to raiblocks but the same as solving captchas.

Yes, I have been following this thread as well and I think there is not much update by the OP. I think it would be best to close this thread anymore because it is kinda useless when people asking how but there is no reply by the original poster.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 12, 2017, 11:07:03 PM
I don't recommend any sites but based on my experiences and knowledge about it investing is much better over playing gambling.
In gambling there are many reputable gambling casino's here promoted in the forum and have that probably fair but you should be responsible on the amount you spend and mindful with the posibility of higher loss.
If you invest trading is much better having a lower risk if you know how to do a good trades and can double or even make you more profit.

That is true gambling is more riskier than trading. In gambling, you don't have much control compared to trading where you control how you approach your next trade. Wait and hold - buy low and sell high.
1954  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: June 12, 2017, 11:05:02 PM
Investing in casinos is a good way to make money long-term. If you have 100btc you can retire nicely . Imagine how much the casino must be making then ? As long as the investors vs casinos money is 50/50 it's normally 75/25 because the casino takes half the invetors profit. Not all casinos some take less.

When investing to online casinos, I think it is better to invest regularly in small staggered amounts than in one blow because you are not so certain that there will be sharks playing and luckily winning. This way, you will cover your loses by reinvesting and just rely on the casino house edge advantage.
1955  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of people that treat Bitcoin solely as an investment? on: June 12, 2017, 11:02:59 PM
It's a kind of error to consider to use bitcoin as an investment. You generally don't invest by buying dollars or others currencies unless you are a kind of daily traders. But most people are not. Ad you need a considerable investment to make a decent profit unless you are hoping to see the price of bitcoin doubled in a short period of time

Yes, typically people do not buy the money to invest. However bitcoin has the advantage that does not possess other currencies. Because bitcoin prices is fluctuate and tend to increase so people take advantage of this to invest. On the other hand some people make buying and selling money, for example the dollar with the euro. So I think it's fine if using bitcoin for investment for the benefit and not harm others. thank you

For me, when it comes to trading bitcoins with other altcoins, it is the same of trading fiat forex - because it is just a numbers game and when we trade, we should not think of the amount and just those decimal points that we are concern of. You only think of the amount when after you successful winning trades and withdrawing the profits.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do winning and losing gamblers have different personalities or habits? on: June 12, 2017, 11:00:01 PM
I think that every gambler has their own personalities and if someone wanted to imitate their style then they would lose. People usually gamble while covering their emotions and most of their actions in order to have a winning streak but in most cases winning doesn't happen because not all games are based off of tells.

Poker for example is based on tells and the gambler should already know that covering their bluffs would allow them to win.
Sports betting is different, it's based off of what you think, if you become professional at gambling then you could introduce covered bluffs into the match -that would just be called manipulation at that point and it's different when playing against a large mass amount of people compared to 5 to 7 people at a table in Poker.

I could not agree more to this. I think, you just be yourself and find a strategy that suits your personality which aside from getting more winning bets than losing ones, you are also comfortable with that betting strategies. With poker, you need to hide those emotions and make skillful bluffs.
1957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 12, 2017, 10:55:00 PM
im gambling for profit because there is no point of risking my own money just for fun no one become happy when they lose their money

There is something else that you can risk your money for and that is for fun. It is much more fun to risk something like your money , without risking money it wont be as fun as it is. When we risk something like money especially when it is hard to get, the pleasure of winning will be very high as well as when we lose that is why play with a small amount only
This is a good suggestion to play with a small amount instead of huge amounts which after a loss can affect your life more badly.
I guess it will be the best to play with a little portion of your pocket money. if it is lost in the gambling you will not be greatly affected and it will be a bearable loss for you so you will not be hurt much emotionally as well.

That is true when you play with the little amount of money, you only need not worry when you lost the game, you also is having fun and entertained a lot with gambling. No sweat, no stress, and no disappointment. Just stick to it and never get lured from betting more.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 12, 2017, 10:50:44 PM
In a way you are correct, but at the same time, the reason we don’t see people being addicted to gambling that have won one million dollars is for the simple reason that there are not many people that can claim they have earned that amount of money, I think the only ones that can claim that are professional poker players and those that win the lottery.

People that have one million dollar will not play anything that is related to gamble anymore. When you have that much of money, all you will think about is how to get more money by running some business and that kind of business is not something that is gamble related. Professional poker player could earn more than one million dollar if they are good
We were not talking about people with a million dollars in their pocket rather we were talking about people that have won that in gambling, if such person did won his fortune with gambling I don’t see why that person will leave gambling alone after having that much of a good fortune, but you are right those that earned that money are not thinking in gambling their money away.
I disagree with this statement because of certain proofs that I know the people who are millionaire and they still gamble and not only for the fun sake but gambling is the only way for them to earn money.
Joe hachem and some many other names are here who became millionaire with the gambling and they are still gambling while living a lavishing life.


These are high-end professional gamblers or most of the time we call them big sharks. These are the people that online casinos would gladly give them first class accommodations just to play to their casinos and therefore be bringing in more gamblers to their casinos.
1959  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: June 12, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
Just relax  Grin and dont put big order whit unclear price. for me it's better to get profit $1-$3 rather than get huge profit but just once, in a trading you need to confirm everything and play with clear mind

Simple, direct, and to the point advice. That is true, $1-$3 profit on a rinse and repeat manner is better and achievable than one time aim of big profit. When you profit $1, you just rinse and repeat your strategy ten times and you got $10. compared to aiming automatic $10 profit - usually this will take long to reach versus just $1-$3 profits.
1960  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 12, 2017, 10:42:10 PM
If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.
I would choose bitcoin instead of gold as bitcoin has given tremendous returns to its investors while in the same time,gold has given very few profit.Gold being in existence for centuries is an added benefit for gold but bitcoin too is working on a secured block chain technology.So our investment in bitcoin is safe.
I think 99% people replay is bitcoin, and  think the main reason behind this is that there is always good fluctuation in the price and everyone is hopping that they can get good profit from investing in bitcoin. and therefore they are choosing bitcoin instead of gold and those people who have no idea about bitcoin still they are giving preference to bitcoin.

That is true. When people use bitcoin and find its use and convenience, they will use it more and invest invest to it because they find it very potential for invest because they experienced it first hand how bitcoin help ease their financial transactions online.
Bitcoin is best as an investment you can make earning in fastest way because value of bitcoin increases quickly. But it is good also as long term investment and bitcoin also is life changer most o the users getting rich by investing here in bitcoin.

The price changes of bitcoin is really amazing and its true, there are people that are getting overnight rich - those who just keep bitcoins in their wallet for a long time and never touched it. I should have saved a lot of them but I lost most of them to online gambling sites before but I am renewed right now.
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