I agree, but why do they need my real name (mail will be delivered regardless), phone number, and email address? Again, I have no problem giving this information out, but I'm still failing to see why it's needed. Looking for clarification from OP.
I guess email address is needed for status update, which is fine. Phone number is something additional. All of which I have already provided. It is also ok if ragingazn does not provide anything, but it would be nice if he did - he is not an organization. In ebay sale, for example, you always know both parties. Anyhow, assuming John K has all the corrected details, this is almost a no-op - except more burden for John if something goes wrong. A phone number is needed for some shipping companies AFAIK. I'm always being prompted to put a phone number when getting a shipment too.
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Real name, phone number, and email are all unnecessary if you ask me. I don't mind giving this info out, but there are others that may find this an issue. I know some people that communicate via pm and only receive shipments at their PO Box. Either that or send the info via signed messages. Just my 0.01BTC
I do not have any problem giving them out, but I certainly want to know who I am dealing with - it should be reciprocated. I suggested this as well when I sent over my personal details and he said he would not be reciprocating due to security reasons. I don't wan't any more drama to come of this, but that sounds kind of sketchy. Can we at least get John K's details then, since hes got the OP's info. I've got a considerable amount invested here and I would like to know who to track down if I don't get my chips:) My details? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I agree to release the details of OP as per what's in my agreement earlier, so don't worry. I guess my reputation is worth more than the 800~BTC here...(and that it wouldn't hurt me in any way if I released OP's information, so it makes no sense for me to not release should anything bad occur *touches wood*)
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Name | Quantity | Price (฿) | Remaining | JessicaMILFson | 2 | 40 | 48 | InstantBTC | 1 | 30 | 47 | JayCoin | 1 | 30 | 46 | VJain | 2 | 30 | 44 | Hiroaki | 5 | 29 | 39 | Jimmy2011 | 2 | 28 | 37 | JustJake | 2 | 26.5 | 35 | perlboy | 1 | 26 | 34 | BLFC Jordan | 2 | 26 | 32 | gchil0 | 1 | 26 | 31 | GreatBug | 1 | 25 | 30 | mrb | 12 | 25 | 18 | Omen1855 | 5 | 25 | 13 | psjw4450 | 5 | 25 | 8 | Ajay | 3 | 25 | 5 | gog1 | 3 | 23 | 2 | adamthefisherman | 1 | 23 | 1 | aristodemus | 1 | 22.5 | 0 | scrybe | 2 | 22.5 | -2 |
Googledoc (thanks Vjain!) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dEM5Z19DdUxzV3VBVjlvcVBQTFNOYmc#gid=0Countdown (courtesy of JaredR26) Timer removed. End time: 2013-04-29+14:25:32
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Please keep this on topic, gents.
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So we email you with our shipping information, but are we going to have the PCB option?
PCB is a possibility. Nothing concrete right now. To put it in words. Burnin's project is much ahead of us right now ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Avalon will release their sources though.
Also if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible. Username: Real Name: Address: Phone Number: Email: Other Info: Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for: Everyone is responsible for the following: - Import Customs Fees (divided among all 79 investors)
- Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group)
- Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
- Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
- I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
- Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.
Just to clarify, we're dividing customs fees by INVESTORS and not by chips? So a guy who ordered 20 chips is going to pay 1/79th of the customs, while a guy who ordered 1000 chips also pays 1/79th? Shouldn't it be that you pay a percentage of the customs fees, based on what percentage of the order belongs to you? Customs on $100,000+ worth of chips is gonna be steep. For somebody who ordered maybe 10 chips, their customs bill could end up being more than their chips cost! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I agree, the portion of fees to be paid by each one shall be proportional to the number of chips ordered. The formula to calculate it is easy: (Total Fees)*(chips ordered)/10,000 Otherwise it would be unfair. Done. I will be doing that for the Import Fees if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible. Username: Real Name: Address: Phone Number: Email: Other Info: Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for: Everyone is responsible for the following: - Import Customs Fees (Will be based on how many chips you bought Fees * #chips/10000 )
- Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group) For US people we can use USPS - cheap/fast/secured
- Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
- Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
- I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
- Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.
When you reorganized the spreadsheet, overpayment information was not reorganized with paid amount. The overpayments were originally intended for shipping but it might be best to return them now since you plan to do most shipping COD (cash on delivery). Can you revert the overpayment information to the correct line for each person who overpaid? Thanks! Yup I will message JohnK Can everyone with overpayments PM (and post here) their BTC addresses for the refunds to be sent? I'd like this to go all at once to save on the blockchain fees. (considering that it's all smallish payments) Thanks again for everything! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I can understand all the bids; however, how are we to know if the people bidding are even able to afford them?
Meaning... I don't want to big out people that might not even have the coin to afford them. I don't want to be outbidding myself.
Also, is proof needed to show hat I have the coins available.
There were fears of this in the last thread. This has not become a problem thus far. John mentioned in the last thread that he may require a deposit from people bidding from very new accounts. All that said; when are these units to ship? Any other information as to when payment is to be made vs ship dates, etc?
You can peruse the previous thread and watch the deliveries unfold. The first of them arrived within 4 days of the auction closing, and I believe they all arrived within a week. The delivery time on these is about as fast as it could possibly be, as every day matters for their value. I'm asking friedcat to see how would he deal and prevent joybidders now. Yes, the units are ready to ship as in the last blade auction. You'll get them around a week - fastest ASIC shipping ever!
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Whew - just woke for this. I'll tally the bids again - thanks Vjain, JaredR26, and all others! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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We're order #10129 . ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) NICE work JOHNK.... That will do.... that will do. Thanks - whew. For 1.5%, the workload is crazy.
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Screenshot of the order confirmation page sent to OP. Whew, this is finally done. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Nights guys.
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Order #10129 made on April 27, 2013. Order status: processing. Awesome - everything is set. OP, please expect the package soon. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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We're order #10129 . ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Ok the question now is: Where can i get 20 chips for my experiments? Are there any AVALON chip orders available help plz ! I would loan for BTC but no one want's to lend me... I'm starting up another group buy right now. Sent you the order confirmation from Avalon - funds are being sent as I type this through my sterile escrow netbook. Sorry for the delay - apparently we had 105 outputs.. The tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/b2f4757e292ac1e1fc38ab72880f27860a56201c197a476157f246813a02b557Pushed via blockchain.info - electrum crashes on me for so much outputs.
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I feel unlucky now ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But anyway if there is a cancellation for 20 chips i'm in TIA There's 7.27 chips left. how much BTC is left though? I though we were full? Where are the extra BTC going? The extra was from the shipping fees we charged everyone (0.035BTC per person). There's 79 here from the anticipated 60 (0.035 x 60), so we actually got the extra there. I will pay to Avalon and see how's the blockchain fee goes, and we can decide what to do with the rest. Let's get this order in asap! Yes, cracking open the safe as I say this! Order is already in a couple hours ago so I'll just pay now*.
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I feel unlucky now ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But anyway if there is a cancellation for 20 chips i'm in TIA There's 7.27 chips left. how much BTC is left though? I though we were full? Where are the extra BTC going? The extra was from the shipping fees we charged everyone (0.035BTC per person). There's 79 here from the anticipated 60 (0.035 x 60), so we actually got the extra there. I will pay to Avalon and see how's the blockchain fee goes, and we can decide what to do with the rest.
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Damn! Well, I'll take whatever the balance is (7ish chips) Sent the orginal funds minus the last bit necessary to: 1PDPdBfLt7wnxWRbzhV5QKr1gYthDPuh6J
Thanks anyway guys!
Confirmed ,thanks! I'm returning 1.1 to dan here: ah dammit.
1JGhu6eNLvUihxkUjMYsfirZasPRiN3G45
thanks,
And returning 5.8947135 to purplesquid. Whew. Orders in now - will confirm here when done. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I feel unlucky now ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But anyway if there is a cancellation for 20 chips i'm in TIA There's 7.27 chips left.
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Oh well ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Will you send me my BTC back when my tx is confirmed? LOL mutex 's order was first according to blockchain. He got his order in and purplesquid's was too late. I'll update the sheet now. purplesquid, please provide a return address.
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atcsecure please put me down for 2BTC ... really want in on this.
You guys will have to deal with your own reshipping at this point as we're only sending to him directly to ease the headache. (if 20.1BTC was split to 2BTC lots we'll have to ship ten times for example)
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