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2121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Taking Bitcoin down on: May 25, 2021, 03:09:13 PM
c) Do you know of other non-regulatory ways countries can fight Bitcoin (or other coins), turning Bitcoin's decentralization against it?

I might say that having an attractive economic system with a stable fiat currency would turn people away from a decentralized currency's volatility, but in this day and age, there is no way any government could separate a hole in the ground from their ass so that isn't so much of a strategy. But hypothetically, I guess any country could make the cause against BTC by promoting their own stable currency. Some people ought to buy the pitch.
2122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Panic! Newsweek’s scary cover: ‘Forget herd immunity!’ ‘Deadly new variants’ on: May 25, 2021, 03:02:02 PM
Herd immunity isn't possible with "natural immunity" either. If variant forms of Covid start circulating, the world gets to have round 2 of Covid, Covid-21 maybe!

Basically, your natural immunity won't give you any edge over a variant if the variant is genetically different. You won't have any antibodies to fight the variant form, the proteins of the virus will be different and unrecognizable by your adaptive immune system. The idea of a vaccine was to prevent people from harboring the virus and allowing it to mutate.

So even if you're right that the vaccine is useless against variants (which isn't true), it's a better method than doing nothing.
2123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 25, 2021, 02:53:02 PM
Origin of SARS-COV-2: https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228

Undisclosed US report states that 3 researchers from the Wuhan virology lab got sick with COVID-19 symptoms. Took many months for this to leak out, but anyways, is the story just addsMight there be any doubt left that this came from a bat in a wet market?

Perhaps that might be true...maybe it spread from the lab, to a researcher, then spread amongst the wet market.

What I don't get is this -- if it is true that this 3 researchers did get Covid (not just some flu with Covid symptoms), wouldn't the disease begin to spread like wild fire? The timeline seems a bit off. The researchers got infected in November 2019, before the first confirmed cases. Either this means they didn't have Covid, or they did have Covid and it began to spread a whole lot quicker than anyone thought.


It did.  By early 2020, due to a variety of policies that fostered it, about 20-25% of many populations already had it.  That from antibody testing.  It passed through like any other coronavirus.

The ailment is so mild that most people never knew they had it.  That was not bug; it was feature!  For over a year now they have been able to generate as many 'cases' as they need for psychological reasons just by 'testing' because running rt-PCR cycles threashold up into the 40's will make everyone who had the virus a year ago come up 'positive for covid'.  Also with those kinds of cycle counts, a lot of people can come up hot who just breathed in a bit of nucleotide from the environment.  And probably a lot of people who were just flat out negative as well.

This whole thing was planned for a long time taking advantage of other mock-pandemics generated with bad testing, bad models, and bad assumptions.  They almost certainly had the 'spike protein' in their sights from long before for other reasons, and that is probably why inserts for it were engineered in to 'SARS-cov-2'...in Wuhan with U.S. money.  Upwards of $40M of it, most from the DOD.

The 'adversarial' relationship between the U.S. and China is as phony as the same between the Democrats and the Republicans.  No different than the 'rivalry' between 'Hulk Hogan' and 'Andre the Giant' in WWE.  Wake up people...or don't.  It's probably to late for most of you mouth-breathers already to be honest about it.



I think it was WHO that released the PCR standards, and they sure have a cozy relationship with China but regardless, the inflated case numbers are a cause for concern, kinda. It's not very useful to add a Covid case into a database without taking into context the deaths. Just using the blanket statement that so and so country has an some number of cases doesn't mean much.

The problem with the PCR theory (which is that Covid cases are over counted) is that the death rate is pretty consistent no matter what country's standard you use *given* that the country has decent testing standards.

Of course India's death rate wouldn't be accurate, for example. And by death rate, I mean confirmed case fatality rate.

2124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 24, 2021, 08:12:47 AM
Origin of SARS-COV-2: https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228

Undisclosed US report states that 3 researchers from the Wuhan virology lab got sick with COVID-19 symptoms. Took many months for this to leak out, but anyways, is the story just addsMight there be any doubt left that this came from a bat in a wet market?

Perhaps that might be true...maybe it spread from the lab, to a researcher, then spread amongst the wet market.

What I don't get is this -- if it is true that this 3 researchers did get Covid (not just some flu with Covid symptoms), wouldn't the disease begin to spread like wild fire? The timeline seems a bit off. The researchers got infected in November 2019, before the first confirmed cases. Either this means they didn't have Covid, or they did have Covid and it began to spread a whole lot quicker than anyone thought.

2125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: May 23, 2021, 05:10:53 AM
https://twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1395877342581600259

It's sad that this is a controversial take...
2126  Economy / Economics / Re: Risk of Inflation in Economy. on: May 23, 2021, 05:05:02 AM
Isn't it a strange world we live in where not overprinting fiat is considered unattainable rocket science to many states and regulatory authorities. Even more strange is how determined many are to refuse to acknowledge basic rules and principles of finance/economics applying even to large governments with trillions in assets.

There could be a certain anti intellectualism involved in believing humanity has evolved beyond basic laws of science and money. A trend people might want to reverse before circumstances deteriorate further.

Inflation is a relatively harmless things by itself. The real problem is convincing people circumstances leading to inflation are real problems that need addressing. Civilization appears to have reached a point where inflation is considered to be as mythical as aliens. It could be a concern.

Trust me, government officials are well aware of inflation, they just don't care because it's more convenient in the "now" to turn the printer into overdrive and create money out of thin air instead of fixing systemic problems. The US within the last year has printed more money than ever has existed in history before -- it's not like Americans are brain dead and don't understand fiscal responsibility. They knew the currency would bloat up, they just didn't care because it's a problem that can be pushed onto the next guy.

What's terrifying is the money the US owes to China. What happens when the US economy crashes? Surely that will effect China's economy if/when they default on their loans. And then what? Two of the largest economies in the world crash? Scary.
2127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pro-Trump rioters breach Capitol, forcing lockdown; one person shot... on: May 23, 2021, 12:45:29 AM
LOL https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-seizes-90000-man-who-sold-footage-us-capitol-riot-2021-05-21/

This man was a left wing activist/rioter that breached the capitol building and captured footage of the Ashli Babbit shooting, to which he appeared on CNN and was able to make 90,000 USD off selling the video. The feds seized his 90k pay day, and he's being slapped with rioting related charges. He claimed he was a "journalist". Don't think that excuse will hold up in court but we'll see.
2128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Republicans should be put to death. on: May 23, 2021, 12:32:31 AM
How democratic to execute anyone you disagree with. Politicians are useless, all of them. Democrat, Republic, conservative, liberal...whatever label you want to assign. I am curious why you're so angry at Republicans in general, so much so that you'd like to execute them. Was it Trump's twitter account?
2129  Economy / Economics / Re: Economical Politics by an insane guy is the reason for this crash! on: May 23, 2021, 12:08:36 AM
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Joe Biden will throw Elon a bone no matter what his stance on Bitcoin was. As long as he is letting his followers know that he cares about the environment, that's all that matters. This isn't some giant government conspiracy, Elon has a shitty take on Bitcoin and he probably wanted to make a quick buck on it. No one buys that he divested from BTC because of the environment...
2130  Economy / Economics / Re: A bubble is when price is not justified on: May 22, 2021, 09:12:56 PM
Spot on. I remember going through the dot com bubble where a bunch of tech related investors lost everything, and that market didn't really recover. Bitcoin had unhealthy growth (I do hate to admit this tbh). It was nice while it lasted, but a bunch of naive investors treating it like a ponzi meant it had to crash at some point. Contrary to other bubbles, BTC will be back, I'm not worried.
2131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets on: May 21, 2021, 10:02:33 PM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.

It is true that Terrorism will not help to get back land from Israel that was really stolen it is a historical fact vindicated by UNO Resolutions because killing innocent citizens even for good cause is never justified.. Having said , that what are the other peaceful means to liberate this land, UNO has consistently failed to implement its overwhelmingly passed resolutions. The World community at large should build its pressure on USA and other Major Powers to sit together and find out a solution of this never ending conflict that has caused  Millions of deaths in Middle East.

https://www.e-ir.info/2018/04/19/terrorists-or-freedom-fighters-a-case-study-of-eta/

Israel gave up the Gaza strip back in 2005. It's not like they haven't made any concessions. That seemed a whole lot more peaceful than what we see today, no? I can't imagine why you'd think that lobbing a bunch of rockers towards Israeli cities would be better diplomacy. I don't have an answer for the alternative, but let's just say SURELY there must be a better way than terrorism.
2132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets on: May 21, 2021, 06:43:02 PM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.
2133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 20, 2021, 04:04:46 AM
94 percent of Covid deaths have a comorbidity. It's true that Americans are disgustingly unhealthy so everybody probably has an underlying condition that shouldn't be blamed for the death in all cases, but it also highlights the point that generally Covid is not dangerous to people that are healthy.

So if no one is healthy then it's dangerous to everybody?

The point is that those 94% would have lived if not for COVID-19. Some may have lived longer, some not so long, but that can be said about any cause of death. IIRC 85%+ of cancer deaths have comorbidities. Does that mean cancer is not dangerous to healthy people?

But we don't know that. They would have lived a whole lot easier without the cancer, etc. They would have lived even with major Covid without the stupidity of the doctors. The straw that broke the camel's back wasn't even Covid among most of them. Many of them would be alive today with HCQ + zinc, and 40-50 thousand units of vitamin D, daily.

Of all the comorbidities, the doctors and the CDC protocols are the biggest comorbidity. Oh sure. Your average doctor doesn't mean to be that way. He's simply been duped by a bunch of hogwash from the CDC leaders and Big Pharma.

You have it way backwards. That wouldn't be so bad, but yo0u seem to like it that way.

Cool

Hydroxychloroquine never worked.

Aside from Trump suggesting that shoving a light bulb up your ass would cure Covid, I never got why he latched on to hydroxychloroquine.
2134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets on: May 20, 2021, 04:00:32 AM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.

And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1394905094651621378

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed. If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel. The Palestinians are the victims in this too, you know. Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.
Did you read the quote I put at the end?
I intentionally quote it from the pro Israeli media.

I know, I saw it was from the Israeli times. Who cares? The BBC is a public entity, I'm sure I could find plenty of articles that are critical of its own UK governance, sometimes fair, sometimes unfair. The NPR sure did love to rip on Trump whenever they got a chance, and they are publicly funded. That quote just tells me that tear gas used used on some sort of gathering. It doesn't say if it was a riot or not. Do you even know that it was?
2135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 20, 2021, 03:54:43 AM
94 percent of Covid deaths have a comorbidity. It's true that Americans are disgustingly unhealthy so everybody probably has an underlying condition that shouldn't be blamed for the death in all cases, but it also highlights the point that generally Covid is not dangerous to people that are healthy.

So if no one is healthy then it's dangerous to everybody?

The point is that those 94% would have lived if not for COVID-19. Some may have lived longer, some not so long, but that can be said about any cause of death. IIRC 85%+ of cancer deaths have comorbidities. Does that mean cancer is not dangerous to healthy people?

That's true that people would live longer if it wasn't for Covid. But, we have the data and we know what age demographic Covid is dangerous to, so it helps us understand what factors would make you more vulnerable. There has to be a reason why older folks die at a higher rate than younger folks. What causes this? Significant comorbidities. Weakened immune system? Both?

This isn't so applicable to the NA/EU region, but take India for example. The vaccine rollout should *probably* be given based on age and common comorbidities. Age is technically easier to verify, so that's probably why many places did a rolling vaccine release starting from the oldest and moving its way down, but there's also been plenty of countries that would give out its vaccine to younger folks granted they had some sort of preexisting condition that was significant. If you can isolate the most common comorbidities, it gets easier to target the vaccine. Plus, you figure some of the anti-vaxers would be more inclined to get the vaccine knowing that their heart disease and diabetes increases their chance of death (wishful thinking, I know).

The link I posted above about 94 percent having comorbidities isn't the only consideration because you can't isolate comorbidities and age so it is misleading if used as a standalone figure. I haven't looked too much into this, but if someone has the data for older people without preexisting conditions, I'd be interested in what their survival rate looks like to those in the same age group with preexisting conditions. Same goes for younger people, but the data seems a bit hard to find. I haven't bothered to research intensively though so it may be out there.
2136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 19, 2021, 10:23:41 PM
Nah, in BADecker's world if you have high blood pressure or hypothyroidism or asthma or gout or a thousand other things and you die two weeks after catching COVID, then it was actually your comorbidity which killed you, even though you would have lived another 40 years with your comorbidity, and therefore you "were going to die anyway" and so your death doesn't matter.

There's a point to be made there when you look at the data though. If there's a death of an 80 year old that dies of an upper respiratory disease who also happens to have cancer, obesity, hypertension, and all the rest, should that death be tabulated the same way as someone who is 35, healthy, and dies of the same disease?  There was this recent study that looked at comorbidities - https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

94 percent of Covid deaths have a comorbidity. It's true that Americans are disgustingly unhealthy so everybody probably has an underlying condition that shouldn't be blamed for the death in all cases, but it also highlights the point that generally Covid is not dangerous to people that are healthy.
2137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: May 19, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/05/19/edward-isaac-dovere-2020-campaign-book-excerpt-joe-biden-kamala-harris-489347

I agree with Jill Biden! Her alleged response to Kamala Harris accusing Joe Biden of racism during the 2019 debates was "fuck off." Appropriate response from the political grifter that would say anything to get elected and would turn on a dime. It still surprises me Kamala Harris was the best Joe could come up with.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/zqplrjlj3n/econTabReport.pdf

She has a 53 percent unfavorable rating among independents, poll conducted May 11th. Maybe it's the mechanical laughter every time she's pressed on an issue.

Ahh, who knows.
2138  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla still an unprofitable automaker on: May 19, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
Electric cars are the future, Tesla's are not the future.

Agreed with the second part, but not with the first part of your sentence. I think EV's are one of the biggest scams of this decade. They are not practical, they are expensive to repair, low resell value and batteries are not really as green as many people think they are.

EV's manufacturers are just reinventing the wheel because capitalism is about to eat its own tail and they need to make current oil-powered cars obsolete to be able to sell these newly made glorified golf-carts.

I am not planning to get an EV in the next 1000 years.

The way I look at it is strictly from the POV of renewables. If we run out of fossil fuels (which we eventually will), what is the alternate source of energy?

My view -- probably nuclear. So nuclear generated energy can produce an insane amount of electricity, so these electric vehicles end up being a lot more efficient granted we can get the battery's to be efficient. Tesla kinda solved this problem, so I think more car companies will follow through. To your point though, gas vehicles won't completely be phased out, because not many people wanna drive an electric golf cart over their pick up trucks.
2139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets on: May 19, 2021, 08:15:30 PM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.

And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1394905094651621378

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed. If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel. The Palestinians are the victims in this too, you know. Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.
2140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets on: May 18, 2021, 07:13:05 PM
Let the memes Speak
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No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!
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