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2121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 24, 2023, 05:08:43 PM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

I am not a rich person, but in my opinion, rich people who tend to gamble do so without hesitation and without fear of losing money so that they gamble arbitrarily just to look for thrills, not to get the victory that is the main goal. that way they don't think about winning but looking for fun and entertainment in gambling, especially in physical casinos, many rich people gamble just to look for fun because they think the fun they can feel is only in the casino.
Unlike the poor or not enough money, maybe they gamble carefully and the main goal is to get a big win even with a small capital. This is a problem for them in the future, because it will bring big problems that will affect their lives, by gambling carefully because although the desire for victory they feel is certainly not ready for the risk of losing the money they play. So the poor are more careful when gambling to play carefully even if in the end they lose.
2122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Luck and skill, which is more important for gambling success? on: November 24, 2023, 04:44:06 PM
Luck.

Even you've analyze the game, familiar with the game and choose the best possibility in order to win, but shit can happen because of luck. While someone who doesn't understand about the game and bet on a random team can win because they're lucky.

It's like this, it's true that you say someone who doesn't understand or a beginner who plays carelessly but can make a win because of his luck, but for those who play nicely understand all aspects of the game and bet very carefully but don't get a win because of the absence of luck on them so they can't get the winnings that have been told as much as possible.

This proves that luck plays a greater role than skill, because in my own opinion, I don't need good skills in gambling just rely on luck, no matter how good the skills are even with people who are great at gambling, it's useless if they are not lucky.
2123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 24, 2023, 03:51:34 PM
As you said, they just have to have good self-control, by limiting gambling activities that have a dangerous impact, and also try to limit gambling, not to lose a lot of other things, such as time, for example as you said playing when everyone is asleep, that's true. But it needs to be underlined that if you do gambling activities like that too often, your sleep time or hours will be disturbed and of course this will affect our own health. And the main thing is money, as much as possible they should be able to limit gambling, by not chasing a win that is not clear that it will be easy to get and even then usually people tend to spend more money on gambling than other important things.
That's the first thing, because in my opinion even if they have their family and friends who support them to stop gambling, it will be difficult if they themselves do not have strong determination and intention, because the key is in themselves who will determine everything. As you said, even if they don't have people accompanying them in recovery, I also think they will be able to carry out the recovery well because of the strong intention and determination they have, and they must also be consistent in terms of gambling recovery. With the support of other people such as family or friends, it only needs to be used as motivation that the addicted person can leave the bad habit, and they must prove it until it is completed perfectly.
That means we have to start caring more about our health so that we don't experience problems. By maintaining health, being able to gamble responsibly, and having self-control, we can be free from any pressure, and we won't even think about recovering from losses because we already know that it is difficult to win. If we keep trying, we might lose more money than we can afford to use for gambling. Playing gambling for too long will clearly harm our health, not only physical health but also mental health where this mental health will affect our mindset, so that we will not know when to stop gambling because we only think about gambling. The key for gambling addicts who want to heal themselves is to have strong intentions and determination that can help them rise from adversity and be able to undergo all the healing sessions so that they can slowly start to heal themselves and see the opportunity to recover from gambling addiction. This strong intention and determination will become stronger when the gambling addict sees that his family is accompanying him during the healing period for his gambling addiction so that he does not feel alone and lonely. This is important for gambling addicts because having someone accompany them through their healing sessions can encourage them to be able to complete each session.

Gambling responsibly, by paying attention to other things that are more important than gambling. do not let just gambling harm many things such as time and health, gambling naturally without overdoing it so it will not become addictive, playing at the right time so that you can enjoy the game and also pay attention to your own health, do not get sick because only because of playing gambling that interferes with our rest time. If only for once in a while it doesn't matter but if you make it a habit it is highly discouraged, gambling that has its own impact should not be added by playing it during sleeping hours.

But there are indeed people who play like that, by playing gambling in the middle of the night because they take the peace that exists, only sooner or later their health will be damaged because of the impact of lack of sleep or rest. This is also not a little done by people, many do it, but whatever because it's their own choice. They also have their own thoughts, so they can think which is good and not good for them. although it is difficult to rise from adversity, but they really have to do it in order to change their lives for the better, because their future is unlikely to be spent gambling alone. if they really want wealth they have to work hard to achieve a decent life, not by gambling which is made their main income in life.

The reason gambling is not seen as a good thing is because, it has an impact that will harm someone when they have experienced gambling addiction, not much different from drug addiction. So naturally this has a bad view in all people or society. because the impact that occurs is difficult to hide, therefore it is likely that the impact will be very visible to many people around it and it is difficult to cure it as you said, because it can be said to be almost equivalent to drug addiction where if to quit the addiction it must go through a rehabilitation phase which is very difficult for addicts to do. And to stop completely at once may be difficult but can do it slowly as you said, by reducing his gambling activities and it will provide an opportunity to be able to stop gambling even though slowly, but it doesn't matter because those who go from ordinary to addiction certainly go through the process but quickly, unlike the problem to cure his addiction, they have to do it gradually, step by step. If they are consistent maybe they will be able to quickly recover from the addiction. Although the chances are said to be very slim but there is no harm in trying it because this will also produce good and positive values for themselves.
That is why any addiction can have a bad impact on ourselves and the people around us, and they may experience a worse impact than the person who is addicted. They will not know anything about people who are addicted, how to find a solution, what they should do in the beginning, and so on. They have to keep themselves busy looking for more information about gambling addiction and also meeting several people who are thought to be able to help them cure people who are addicted to gambling. We probably won't know what the difference is between gambling and drug addiction. Even people who are addicted might not realize it because they are excessive users. Maybe if that's the case, his family needs to take him to a rehabilitation center so that people who are addicted to gambling can be treated using better methods. It's like taking a drug addict to a rehabilitation center for drug addicts, and they have to stay in the rehabilitation center to undergo treatment. Maybe they will be taught how to reduce their gambling addiction by doing things that can benefit them and can start to divert their attention to gambling. And there are other things that they have to follow because those are the procedures that rehabilitation centers have to cure people who are addicted to gambling.

If the addiction to gambling or drugs is also fatal, what is damaged is not physical but their thinking, so they have to meet other people to ask for advice and input, if it still doesn't work because the addiction is severe, maybe they should meet with a psychological expert because healing the mind is not as easy as healing physical wounds, their mentality that is also damaged will have a bad impact on others, by changing their attitude to become more aggressive and maybe they can commit unintentional acts of violence when they are being advised by others or their families. It can be said that people who are already addicted will not realize that they are addicted, even addictions like this usually hide it because they are embarrassed if other people find out not to mention the family that if they know this bad habit there may be conflict between the family and the addicted person, Where we know that addicted people tend not to want to lose because they are hypnotized by the things they always do which according to themselves it has become their personal needs, just like drugs, as you said "taking a drug addict to a rehabilitation center" the process of healing this addiction will be painful or torturous for the addict, but if he himself wants to recover then he must undergo it even if it tortures themselves. No one else can help them but themselves who determine their future, it is impossible for those who are adults or even have a family to still depend on their parents.

Yes, it is difficult to quit gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover from the addiction that has been attached and even ingrained with them. But there must be a way out if they really have the intention to quit the addiction itself. By doing new things when they want to gamble it will make them little by little able to leave the gambling addiction activity, for example when he wants to gamble he ventures into sports such as playing basketball, or tennis. That he can do or do other things that he likes because there are still many other things that are more useful than continuing to monitor gambling with little body movement,  but by exercising they will move all their limbs which of course will be healthy for themselves. It's true that they must have strong intentions and determination and also be consistent in what they want, of course it's not easy but if they are really consistent,  I think it will work well. If they are still half-hearted to stop gambling I think they are just wasting their time, even though they have tried but they themselves must admit that they have not been wholehearted to stop then it is better for them to gamble until the lowest point or the lowest point they don't have anything because it runs out by selling it and using it for gambling, that way they will realize by themselves do not need to get advice and encouragement from others who support them. And I don't think they have to gamble until they are old.
As long as there is an intention and desire, there must be a way, and as long as gambling addicts realize that they have made a fatal mistake to the point of making their life a mess and want to fix it, they will definitely get their way. It may take time to find the way. But with help from the people around them and also regularly visiting the rehabilitation center or even staying overnight at the rehabilitation center, they will find a suitable method to use that will speed up the process of healing their gambling addiction. The important thing is that gambling addicts do not feel that it is a burden and can live with it happily because it is a mistake they have made, and they want to cure their gambling addiction immediately. Maybe they can do regular exercise outside while breathing fresh air every morning or evening and also make another schedule that can be done regularly so that he won't be able to think about gambling like he did before. They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment. Most of them need to experience falling to their lowest point so that they can gain enlightenment about the mistakes they have made, gain awareness, and develop the desire to start changing their lives for the better.

All problems must have a way out, it's just that the rest depends on themselves who will determine the future. If they are already aware of the things they are doing that are detrimental to themselves then they can realize it even though the chances are very small. As much as possible they should be able to get through it because it is also for their own good not for others, because it is impossible if they are still addicted to old age. unless they have a large fixed income then they can do gambling until old age because of their inexhaustible income. it is not necessary to be at the lowest point to get enlightenment, but if those who are addicted to it have a stubborn nature, how? I think even people who support him will feel annoyed by advising him if he himself has not changed at all, with his awareness it is difficult in the sense of stubbornness, maybe people also who support his recovery will let him go because they feel they have wasted time advising him but there is no change made.

They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment. Most of them need to experience falling to their lowest point so that they can gain enlightenment.

You said something backwards "They also don't need to be at their lowest point to gain enlightenment. Most of them need to experience falling to the lowest point in order for them to gain enlightenment" I don't understand this sentence of yours, you say "don't need to" but the next sentence you say "they need to" even though in that one sentence the one goal is enlightenment, it's just that your second sentence has the word "fall" which distinguishes it from the first sentence.

To start a new life, they must make a total recovery and that is not easy to do, in the process it is hard and will even torture themselves and that is what they have to face if they want a new clean life. By starting a new life without gambling or drug addiction, it will make their lives calmer every day without feeling the anxiety of gambling.
2124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: November 24, 2023, 03:51:15 PM
Trying to understand the clubs in Ligue 1 is difficult for me, I mean why do they falter so easily or in other words their consistency is so quickly lost when entering a new season. I think it's normal for players to come and go, but in reality it's not normal for that to happen at a Ligue 1 club. It's different when looking at La Liga and the Premier League for example, their consistency can still be said to be balanced when the season changes, yes although there are some clubs that also experience a significant decline.
What do you think caused that to happen in Ligue 1?
I'm glad someone else has also confirmed this about French Ligue 1, very difficult to predict. Just when you think a team like PSG has all the advantages to win a match, they will even lose at home to a smaller team. On the contrary, when you will not expect, you will see them delivering beyond imagination.
Nevertheless PSG have shown impressive record of recently as they have won five out of their last six matches drawing one against a smaller side Clermont Foot. So I will not be surprised if they humble Monaco who have not also been doing badly just that they have lost their glory.
Actually League 1 is not as interesting as other European leagues, so that how we see it. And it's not strange why PSG is easily the strongest team there. This also makes PSG relax more. Meanwhile, in other European League competitions, the competition is almost stable at least in one League the strongest club has more than 4-5 equal competitors. In France it is not visible at all so it is not surprising why there are not so many fans of League 1 apart from just wanting to see PSG play and even then PSG has Mbappe at the moment which is attracting the attention of the audience. Monaco, Lens and Marseille are still not as consistent as PSG, which is dominated by many top players.

Then Mbappe departure next season will have a clear impact on the audience interest in League 1 therefore it is not surprising that PSG is determined by all means to keep Mbappe as long as possible.
2125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 24, 2023, 03:10:57 PM
With only one win in the last 5 matches, Werder Bremen is stuck in 12th position and is likely to drop again in this week's match because their opponent is Leverkusen. We know that the difference in quality between the two teams is very different and of course Leverkusen will continue to target another win in this match tomorrow. It seems that Werder Bremen will still have a minor trend this week, but if they can hold on to a draw like the previous few meetings with Leverkusen then at least they will still get one very important additional point. Well, what is certain is that this will be quite an interesting match, especially as there will be more than 2 goals scored.
There is no reason for Leverkusen to delay the opportunities that are before their eyes. Their potential for big wins will be maintained no matter what. Moreover Bayern Munich also has easy opponents so Leverkusen needs to take more aggressive action in this match.  Werder is at a disadvantage because their opponent is a club that has the ambition to steal the trophy this season. The competition at the top of the standings between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen is getting fiercer because the distance between each other points is not too far. If Werder gives Leverkusen resistance it will open up greater opportunities for Bayern Munich to take over.
Because for me Bayern  Munich with its complete players Kane is guaranteed to be able to score goals as usual he can always play his role on the field very well.
2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 24, 2023, 01:40:56 PM
And it is also unethical if they make gambling as a source of income, it is better to gamble reasonably not excessively or desperately to pursue a big win, after all, if like that instead of being successful, but instead will become miserable in the future.
Indeed, it can't be a primary source of income. Gambling can only be considered a supplementary income source, as it solely relies on luck. There's nothing more enjoyable than someone having fun with a gambling game and making money... isn't that a double delight? Yes, whoever wins at gambling is considered fortunate.

Building a career in the gambling industry is still possible, but not as a gambler... rather, as a bookmaker or casino employee. This appears more tangible and realistic, where many people lose due to gambling, and those who consistently profit are the casinos.

Luck that will only give big or small wins.  Someone who gets a big win that can even change his life (jackpot) in my opinion, is because of the strong luck that leads them,  if to succeed with the plan it seems impossible, because if they are unlucky then somehow they cannot cheat the gambling system that has been set up to make money for the bookie.

Maybe if it's like that it can still be successful by becoming part of the gambling industry,  but as a player it seems impossible to be successful, the chances of getting a big win are small let alone being successful.
So it is difficult to be successful if only to play a role as a player after all gambling is also established to make money not to make players successful,  I have seen when someone succeeds in getting a big win that can change his life at that time the gambling industry is also amazed at what the player has got, and they try as much as possible to attract the player's attention back to gambling again to withdraw the winnings he has got,  but the rice has become porridge The person who got the big winnings also withdrew all his winnings and started a new life with the winnings he had gotten..

Although gambling can make money, but it will not always happen like that, most likely they will lose more money than get money, because the bookie who has arranged everything also does not want to lose in gambling. And keep in mind, that the bookie as the host will always win in the game, even though there are people who are called experts in gambling in my opinion they cannot beat the system machine that has been set up and set to make money.
If they make a successful career in gambling, I think it will only waste their money quickly. There is no guarantee that they will succeed in gambling because it is impossible to succeed with gambling.  And it is also unethical if they make gambling as a source of income, it is better to gamble reasonably not excessively or desperately to pursue a big win, after all, if like that instead of being successful, but instead will become miserable in the future.
Losing more money in gambling is something that many gamblers have experienced and that is because they cannot control themselves well while gambling and also the greed that arises after they get their winnings. The bookie or casino will always win and get more money than the gamblers, so whether we like it or not, we have to accept it and always limit our money for gambling if we don't want to lose a lot and lose a lot of money too. An expert in gambling will not always be able to win from playing gambling because there will definitely be times when he will experience defeat so we must be aware that we can only use gambling as entertainment and nothing more. If we don't understand this, we will lose more money and won't be able to recover it. A career in gambling will not be easy because gambling is not a career like working in a company or an office so we will only experience losses and lose money rather than winning. Those who want to try it should be able to think about this and will not try it because they will not have a great opportunity to make money from gambling.

The self-control and greed that makes them lose a lot of money because of the pursuit of a very large winnings and that every gambler wants. Most of the gamblers who cannot accept their defeat then they become upset and in the end they will become addicted which makes them always want to play to turn things around, but it is very unfortunate that it is almost impossible to happen. Even if they spend all their money on gambling if luck is not on their side I don't think they can do much, just have to accept the defeat they get. As you said inevitably they have to accept the fact that they can't twist the facts that have already happened.
It is almost impossible to succeed in a career by gambling, after all, no one can beat the gambling system that has been set up to make money for the bookie. So in my opinion the chances of a career in gambling are very slim, because many will only get defeat not victory.
2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 24, 2023, 12:33:36 PM
there is no way to earn a steady income with gambling. no matter how you diversify your game or how skilled you are, you won't be able to get a steady income with gambling because there are only two possibilities in gambling, winning or losing, and people's risk of losing is greater than winning. unless you have god-level luck, maybe you will be able to get a steady income with gambling, otherwise you won't.

Yes that's right, no one can get a steady income by gambling, because it is very unlikely to happen, regarding gambling that prioritizes luck, no matter how well they gamble with very good skills it will not guarantee them a steady income every time. Because gambling is just a game that pays with money and in return feels the thrill of the game.

It's true what you said unless they have god-level luck, maybe they will make a steady income by gambling, but I think the luck that gives them victory will also not always be in their favor, of course, they will definitely experience phases of loss and lose money, will not always get a profitable victory.
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 24, 2023, 12:11:32 PM
~snip~
And that's what casinos want from their players, all casinos provide paid games of course to generate profits for their own casinos so they expect everyone to spend a lot of money in their casinos. Even if we get a win, there will definitely be a sense of wanting to get a bigger win and this is what the casino wants with people who continue gambling when they win so that they can take back the winnings obtained by the player, and this has indeed happened with many gamblers who are driven by greed to pursue bigger wins and in the end the casino gives the end with defeat to those who continue gambling.

Obviously they should be aware of the gambling that will spend a lot of time and mainly their money, because the losses will be a lot to get instead of the victory they will get easily.
Gamblers who have won definitely want to get bigger wins, so they want to continue gambling and chase their winnings. Unfortunately, the casino already knows the greed of the gamblers and provides a way for the greedy gamblers to try it, and apparently, luck is off the side of the greedy gamblers, and they end up taking all the winnings. That is the advantage that the casinos get. They don't need anything to get that profit and wait for the greedy gamblers to fall into the hole they dug because they were too eager for even bigger wins. Gamblers should be aware that what they are doing is wrong and not try to chase bigger wins, especially when they have already won a certain amount of money.

They must realize that they are lucky gamblers because not many gamblers can get lucky and win some money. Therefore, if one day we win a lot of money, we must immediately leave the casino and withdraw the money so we can enjoy the winnings. We must not be greedy gamblers who only want to chase another big win that will not be easy to get.

This happens because the greed that has overcome them so that it encourages them to return to pursue bigger wins. When they get a big win, not all gamblers can get it easily, even if they try as hard as possible if the luck is not on them, they will not get the big win, even if they continue gambling after getting a big win, they might lose the winnings they have got again, but if you say that, they are among the lucky ones because they continue the game after getting the win.
Because people who gamble when they continue their game when they get their winnings tend to get defeated, but if they get back the winnings it is very lucky.

Yes as much as possible they have to withdraw the winnings they get, and consider it if they really want to continue the game to pursue a bigger win, And keep in mind luck is not on their side all the time.
2129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: November 23, 2023, 08:50:49 PM
The kid also lay the gambling game using their parents account in their parents mobile.But the gambler should ready to accept the loss in the gambling site,So the gambler with age above to the adult had the capacity to accept the loss from the gambling site.The kids may miss use their parents card using their card details saved to the gambling site by used by  the gambler parents.So the card miss use was common one in the gambling.
I have seen many instances where kids gamble with parents account and even make deposit with parents cards. I think this is failure on the part of the parents. Why will you allow kids access to things they are not matured for? I understand some parents pet their kids so much that they grant practically every request made by the kids. In my opinion, it is not a good thing to do as parent; it is not a way of showing love because it will end up messing up the psyche of the kids rather than helping them.

It seems that such cases have occurred very much in several countries and yes, I also will not blame the child because I think everything returns to their parents who are negligent or unable to limit / supervise the activities of their children. In addition, now gambling promotions, especially those based online, are very easy to find, now small children who are still in their teens are very adept at operating cellphones and even their parents facilitate their children, and with that it is obviously very easy for children to find online gambling promotions that can make them curious and get involved there,

I don't think it's a problem if parents always allow their children in anything but I hope they parents should see and consider first from various sides, if indeed what their children do or the facilities provided by them can or are likely to make their children involved in the gambling network then obviously don't do it, and also on the other hand parents must always limit what activities their children do in their daily lives.
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 23, 2023, 07:19:58 PM
The family or even a close friend can help them get away from their addiction once they admit it and become ready to accept the challenge. If you are addicted to gambling but aren't allowing anyone to get you out of it, you will barely be able to do it yourself because the urge won't let you.

most families can't do anything. Advising is useless if he still handles the finances himself. If someone want to find a solution when any advice and threaphy doesn't works, the only thing is not to save his own money. It may be difficult, but entrusting money to someone who can trust can help overcome gambling addiction problems. For example, if the gambler trusts his wife, then he can entrust all his money to her. As long as there is clear accounting of expenses, everything should be controlled. Or by the parents, because the role of parents in saving their children's money is also very good, especially mothers. assuming, his wife and parents are not gambling addicts either.

Honestly I would not say that the role of the family would be useless in the matter of helping the person to solve his addiction problem, but usually the gambler will be more respectful of some advice from a person who is quite important in his life such as one of his family or his partner, but on the other hand if indeed the role of some of the closest people has no effect on them honestly I make sure it seems that they are already at a very severe level of addiction that will not be cured if only by throwing a few suggestions. Gambling is never done if there is no money allocated and your suggestion is quite reasonable in this case, it is true that if the family cannot help them with some suggestions then I think one of the parents or family members should take over their finances, do not let them have money in their pocket because obviously gambling is the main thing they will choose with that money.

This should be quite effective, and I think the person in control of the finances should be able to limit if they want to give money to people with addiction problems, give only a little and only for purposes that are reasonable enough to believe.
2131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 23, 2023, 06:41:57 PM

Gamblers, by their nature, engage in risk-taking behavior. They enter a world of uncertainty, hoping to reap the rewards of a gainful gamble. the irony lies in their reluctance of accepting loss, which is an inherent part of gambling. The key to a more balanced and enjoyable gambling experience lies in striking a harmonious balance between the excitement of the game and the potential outcomes. This entails making informed decisions, setting clear limits, and approaching gambling not as a guaranteed path to riches but rather as a source of entertainment.

Gambling should be about self-awareness and deriving pleasure from the experience, not solely about the financial gains. By acknowledging the inherent risks involved, exercising self-control, and viewing gambling as a form of leisure rather than a means to an end, people can transform their gambling experience into a more enriching and fulfilling one. it's about finding that sweet spot where the thrill of the game coexists with a healthy acceptance of the possible outcomes.
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.

Gamblers who realize that gambling is nothing more than a lucky activity then they will gamble with the intention of seeking entertainment or fun only, I agree to that statement but on the other hand it is always undeniable and not always possible that you will always be able to apply such a mindset, as you said that gambling is very much tied to human psychology, I think there will always be some points that can make you quite upset, and after that your psychology will start to be disturbed, even though you come with a healthy mindset, it doesn't mean that you don't have the potential to have desires like gambling addicts.

Winning and losing is the final answer that is certain but usually will lose more often than winning because your losses are profits for the casino, if you continue to play and without any restrictions even though your goal is for entertainment but on the other hand believe me that it is very likely that you will start to enter the addiction phase without you realizing it. After that, it's not about fun but you gamble with the intention of recovering losses. Therefore, there is nothing better than not touching gambling at all, or stopping before it's too late.
2132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 23, 2023, 06:18:13 PM
It seems so, I think lately most of them come to gambling with the intention of wanting to earn and not to gamble properly or the intention is to find entertainment when they feel bored. Basically there are many factors that can encourage them to enter or get involved in this gambling, it could be because of the very low economic factors that make them finally look for shortcuts to get money instantly, especially if they see some people around them who managed to win a big jackpot and it is very tempting their eyes.

Without looking for other information about what can happen in gambling, especially the risk of losing, it is because maybe their conditions are very pressed in terms of the economy and needs that cannot be fulfilled if they only rely on their main job with very low wages. So the point is that many people come with different goals and different causes. Honestly, I hope that they can consider first before deciding or acting, if they see something that seems tempting then I think they should look from various sides about the negative things that can have an impact, not just look at the positive side because there are also many people who are trapped in addiction because they only see from one side.
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? on: November 23, 2023, 05:18:33 PM
He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

Revenge gambling can be dangerous most at times because when you gamble and you notice that you don't win and have lost huge amount maybe one finds himself into lose he has no option that to keep trying at this point of trying, he even endangering himself the more because he wanna recover some money. Here is where to know a responsible gambler because he don't quite at that point he noticed shortage of funds or out of funds he doesn't need to prove himself to at least streak a winning.

Not only is it dangerous but if you gamble with the intention of revenge it is the same as you digging a hole to bury yourself, do you want to beat the house? what is the strong reason you do that? while on the other hand everything that goes on in gambling is regulated by the casino itself, if you want to go against the provisions that have been designed by the casino then it is the same as you want to commit suicide or deepen your slump. I understand you are very upset with the results that are always not in accordance with what you want, but on the other hand do you not realize that this is gambling?

Therefore correct your mindset, I think it is a natural downturn that you experience because you come with intentions and goals that should not be, you come to make money while gambling is intended to seek pleasure or entertainment, why? because this is a business for casinos and the name of the business means there is a profit that the casino is after, simply put is if you lose then it is a profit for the casino and the casino always wants the gamblers to lose. Therefore it is obvious that the more you gamble, the more losses you will get, in fact the occasional win you get is just to make you addicted, that's how smart casinos are.
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 23, 2023, 02:44:00 PM
As the gambling industry is evolving, I think innovations would have kicked in that can make someone create a career from gambling. I do not know how this can be achieved but I feel it is possible.

Making gambling a full time job might be seen as risky but I still feel one can make gambling full time job and a career.

What do you all think?
because gambling can give you money, gambling can be included in the category of a job, it's just that only skill-based gambling can give you a fairly good income, while slots, dice and crashes, usually you have to make it part of entertainment, don't hoping to get a stable income from all three. If you have good skills in playing cards such as poker, blackjack, baccarat or other types of skill-based sports then use your skills to make enough money for you. but you have to have other good strategies to be able to manage your finances, don't be wasteful and live lavishly because usually what destroys the life of a professional gambler is women and a hedonistic life.
Gambling can indeed give you money, but you also have to understand that we will not always be able to get that money from gambling because we have to use money first to be able to make money and this result will not always be achieved. We can only continue gambling while continuing to hope to make money, but we also have to control ourselves so we don't lose too much. Maybe if you have the skills to play gambling such as cards, poker, blackjack, baccarat or sports betting, you could have a chance to win. But it also depends on the skills you have and how well your opponents play. And if your skills are not good, you will have difficulty winning and making money, and you will lose a lot of money. So in this case, we have to understand that it is not easy for someone to build a career in the gambling field. They can only gamble moderately without expecting more.

Although gambling can make money, but it will not always happen like that, most likely they will lose more money than get money, because the bookie who has arranged everything also does not want to lose in gambling. And keep in mind, that the bookie as the host will always win in the game, even though there are people who are called experts in gambling in my opinion they cannot beat the system machine that has been set up and set to make money.
If they make a successful career in gambling, I think it will only waste their money quickly. There is no guarantee that they will succeed in gambling because it is impossible to succeed with gambling.  And it is also unethical if they make gambling as a source of income, it is better to gamble reasonably not excessively or desperately to pursue a big win, after all, if like that instead of being successful, but instead will become miserable in the future.
2135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 23, 2023, 02:20:18 PM
Well, as long as it is something beneficial for every player  , it is that they can Have good control of everything, to reach this level the complete expectations of total awareness must be met, for this you must have what I say maturity, because maturity is what Thinking that it will be the Best option to accept the designs that may be had within a casino is not simple, because every time you enter a casino every person will Always emphasize so that you can win and have favorable Results , that It is what we are always looking for, but as I said before , so that there is no Risk , it is best to put the money that you are willing to lose in the money, money that is not going to affect the daily life of the player so that You can have a good experience in the casino, however we are players who will always be with the expectation to be able to have more winning Opportunities with more Flexibility.

It has been shown that people who enter gambling without any kind of Knowledge about the casino and are given only to luck can Happen two things, that they win a lot or that they can lose everything or almost Everything , because the adrenaline in the casino is something that It manifests itself at once, because and the impulses and everything it means to have emotions, so for this what you should have is caution, moderation and a lot of knowledge about how to spend and how to play in a casino intelligently, for all this it always comes out self-control, and it is not easy, I personally always emphasize the first rule, I already have the balance, I am discouraged from losing, it does not matter if the person goes crazy , play it , just respect that once the money available is lost to play for session, so don't make more deposits, or something like that, because that's when we start to lose control and go against many of our rules and it has been shown that when the rules are broken in the Game or in trading , the Person is not doing Well.
Only self-control can save us from many defeats, and learning this self-control really takes time. We can practice it from day to day until we have good self-control. In gambling, this control will be able to stop us from spending too much money because we are aware that in gambling, we will find it difficult to win any amount of money. Even if we can win, the amount of money we get will probably not be as big as the amount we have lost, so we have to realize that we can only use gambling as entertainment. In gambling, there are also risks that all gamblers will face, no matter if they are pro gamblers or beginner gamblers. But this risk can be managed well with self-control so that we can reduce the risk of big losses so that we can enjoy gambling as we should. And if you can win from gambling, you should immediately realize that it is time for you to quit gambling so that you don't try to chase bigger wins. It's better for you to feel like you've had enough gambling than to take the risk of losing more money.

That's right, with the control that you have will minimize the expenditure of money used for gambling, and many people who gamble they don't have good control so they spend a lot of money to pursue a big win. It needs to be recognized, all people who gamble definitely want a big win no exception. But those who make the mistake of gambling without good self-control lead them to lose a lot of money. And this has also become a common thing no longer strange, with the defeat that is obtained cannot be replaced by the victory that is obtained, because after all they must have lost a lot of money in gambling. so the victory that is obtained will not be able to cover the defeat that has occurred. If indeed to get a win, I think they have to stop their addiction, which if they can stop the addiction that costs them a lot of money means they win, but if they still do the same thing even if they get a win then in my opinion they still lose in gambling, because as I said above the winnings that can not cover the losses that have occurred. To realize this seems difficult for someone who is already addicted, because in his mind that has been quasi by the victory he must get and this is what has been attached to their thoughts so it is difficult to get rid of easily.

People who enter a casino without preparation will only run the risk of losing more money because they cannot control themselves while gambling. They also cannot resist the temptation to continue gambling. Hence, they forget that their goal in gambling is actually just to get entertainment and must immediately stop gambling once they feel like they have had enough. But the only thing that is there is that they will lose control of themselves as their emotions increase, especially if they experience a losing streak. Experiencing consecutive losses can trigger them to try to recover their losses by depositing more money, but that only sometimes goes according to their wishes because often, they end up losing more and more. When they win, they also cannot immediately stop gambling because there is a temptation that tells them to continue gambling. After all, they have the opportunity to win more. But that's just a dream because in reality, they will lose even more.

The strong temptation that casinos have so that many people can't resist it so most of them are attracted by the temptation that casinos provide in the form of promotions that casinos provide. with the temptation that casinos provide makes them forget everything because they only focus on gambling that must be defeated by getting big wins. But unfortunately they cannot beat the casino system machine that has been set to always win in every round. With casinos that will always win and those who always lose will increase their emotions to become more aggressive in gambling and continue to gamble with the money they have and at this time they have lost control,  maybe from the beginning it was just for trial and error but they became addicted and spent all their money on gambling. And they will continue to deposit the money they have with the aim of returning the money they have lost or to chase the winnings that can cover the defeats they have experienced, and this will make them endlessly continue to gamble and not realize that they have spent a lot of money. Even the winnings that can cover their losses can be said to be a dream like you said, because it is difficult to get and almost impossible to get even if they have spent a lot of money gambling it will not guarantee a big win that will be obtained.
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 23, 2023, 02:00:17 PM
A steady income from gambling is totally possible. Good luck is required to get good from gambling. So how can a person think of steady income from gambling. Gambling is a fun place where it is only wise to have fun as gambling sites have a variety of games that help provide a variety of fun. However, it is not possible for a gambler who can control himself from gambling and has a gambling budget to play all the games. He only plays the games he likes and enjoys the fun of them. No one can ever guarantee that he can make a steady income from gambling

If a person wants to make money by gambling it will be very foolish for him. Because gambling will sometimes result in profit and sometimes loss. So there is no guarantee that it is possible to make a certain amount of money from gambling. Gambling is a bad addiction I think.  When it is completely a person becomes addicted to gambling then he will lose all his money and possessions to gambling. It is wise to choose gambling as a pastime.

I think it's also like that, if they want profit of course not by gambling, because most who gamble only get defeat not victory. And this has been experienced by many people, only a few people can get a big win which of course is rarely obtained by everyone, in my opinion, to get a big win is difficult, let alone by making a steady profit in gambling, I think it's almost impossible. Not to mention those who cannot control themselves, of course it will make it difficult for themselves in the future.

Right what you said, someone will lose all the money even until their property can also be lost because it is sold and the money from the sale is used for gambling capital,  with the same hope, to get a win that will reverse all the losses they feel, and this will have no end if they still don't realize that what they are doing is wrong because it has harmed themselves, it can even harm others, and the casino laughs satisfied with those who have run out of capital for gambling.
2137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 23, 2023, 01:40:37 PM
I must say that anyone who tells you that the more you gamble, the closer you are to your jackpot does not really know what they are telling you. You asked your friend a good question, though, and that was very smart of you. I believe the question took a down tone on him, making him rethink his gambling life and what he has just asked you in person. Most times, people just say things to promote their brand without thinking of the repercussions. They must know what they are doing and get at you just to join them and become addicts, and I must say that your friend did that so you could give in to his casino and become a gambler with his casino while earning a referral bonus from you if I am not mistaken.
That's true because they want to see us experience more and more losses by continuing to gamble. They actually don't want to see us win, so they tempt us to continue gambling. They or even we can indeed win from gambling, but the problem is, we and they will not know when we can win. We may only be able to continue gambling, but we have to control ourselves so that we don't experience too many losses. It won't be worth doing, especially if we use more money than before. And if you gamble too often, it can make you addicted to gambling, and maybe when you change your goals, the gambling addiction will actually come. Those who spend more time in the casino will not be closer to winning, but they may be closer to losing. If they remain unaware, they will regret it once they know the truth. So pay attention to yourself and always limit your gambling activities rather than experiencing a gambling addiction.

And that's what casinos want from their players, all casinos provide paid games of course to generate profits for their own casinos so they expect everyone to spend a lot of money in their casinos. Even if we get a win, there will definitely be a sense of wanting to get a bigger win and this is what the casino wants with people who continue gambling when they win so that they can take back the winnings obtained by the player, and this has indeed happened with many gamblers who are driven by greed to pursue bigger wins and in the end the casino gives the end with defeat to those who continue gambling.

Obviously they should be aware of the gambling that will spend a lot of time and mainly their money, because the losses will be a lot to get instead of the victory they will get easily.

It is normal that casinos are all after profit because they are profit-making ventures, so in that case, they have their organization to maintain and staff to pay and would go to any extent to make profit either way so as to keep the casino running. You, as a gambler, should know that as well. When it comes to winning, it is nice to be able to control their greed to win more because when that thought comes in, you are liable to lose more than you could imagine because you would not get it easy this time around as the casino would at all costs put an eye on your account to make sure they see to the end. It is best that you apply caution and self-restraint at this point of victory otherwise it would turn south for you.

Yes indeed because basically they also set up casinos to make huge profits, by attracting everyone to play in their casinos and pulling them deeper and deeper to spend all their money gambling, if they don't have good self-control then they will experience this, and also many have become victims of casinos because they themselves cannot control themselves properly. The fault here is not in the casino, but from themselves, if only they can control themselves, they can definitely limit their gambling by not spending their money in gambling.

The advice you said was well received, even though I am not a gambling addict, but other people should also know about what you said, that way they will not or at least be able to avoid gambling addiction, because those who gamble are very vulnerable to becoming addicted to gambling and experiencing bad things that harm them.
2138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 23, 2023, 01:20:54 PM
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Of course, most people will hide their gambling activities from their family because they don't want to feel disappointed or unhappy with every gambling activity they do, considering that not everyone likes gambling, and quite few even think that gambling is bad activity.
Even though the family role is very helpful, personally I will not tell my family what he does regarding gambling and will continue to hide everything even though I am in trouble.

What he did was real form of effort towards awareness to be able to recover from gambling addiction and curing addiction must be based on one own intention and determination because no matter how many people give advice or suggestions, if there is no awareness or intention from yourself then things will become very difficult.
From the emergence of awareness to recover, he can also suppress every activity he does so that when he has the desire to return, he can think that his goal is to stop and recover from the addiction he is experiencing.
You really have to have better control so that you are not tempted to gamble too often, especially since you already know what the impact is on someone who gambles too often. We could hide our gambling activities and only gamble when everyone is asleep so that no one will be disturbed, but as I said, we have to have better control. Gambling can make it deeper and harder for us to reduce our gambling activities, and when we find it difficult to give up gambling, maybe that is a sign that we are starting to experience a gambling addiction.

A person who is addicted to gambling can recover from his gambling addiction as long as he has strong intentions and determination, and even though no one accompanies him during his recovery period, he can still live it well until he is finally free from his gambling addiction. This is indeed difficult, but it depends on the intention and determination of the gambling addict because, in fact, he himself can suppress the effects of his gambling addiction. Other people who accompany him only provide encouragement and support while everything depends on him. All people with an addiction, both gambling and drug addicts, have a second chance, but it depends on whether they can take advantage of their second chance or whether they will continue to reject it.

As you said, they just have to have good self-control, by limiting gambling activities that have a dangerous impact, and also try to limit gambling, not to lose a lot of other things, such as time, for example as you said playing when everyone is asleep, that's true. But it needs to be underlined that if you do gambling activities like that too often, your sleep time or hours will be disturbed and of course this will affect our own health. And the main thing is money, as much as possible they should be able to limit gambling, by not chasing a win that is not clear that it will be easy to get and even then usually people tend to spend more money on gambling than other important things.
That's the first thing, because in my opinion even if they have their family and friends who support them to stop gambling, it will be difficult if they themselves do not have strong determination and intention, because the key is in themselves who will determine everything. As you said, even if they don't have people accompanying them in recovery, I also think they will be able to carry out the recovery well because of the strong intention and determination they have, and they must also be consistent in terms of gambling recovery. With the support of other people such as family or friends, it only needs to be used as motivation that the addicted person can leave the bad habit, and they must prove it until it is completed perfectly.

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People's thoughts are different, so they can have what they think is best for themselves, hiding or telling it in my opinion will still bring its own problems, because after all gambling is something that is not good in society. So there are those who hide their gambling activities because they are embarrassed if they find out about their activities, and there are those who tell it to explain their habits, depending on the person himself. And in my opinion, people who like to gamble tend to find it difficult to accept advice from other people even if they are family or close friends, sometimes they can also argue back because they don't accept advice.
To stop gambling is very difficult not only gambling all things that have become a habit that is said to be addicted will be difficult to cure, as you said, it takes a strong determination to stop gambling is true and I want to add, when an addict wants to quit the addiction then he will be determined with all his might to resist the desire to gamble. But if they want to gamble half-heartedly or there is still a feeling of wanting to gamble it will be in vain, it is better for them to continue gambling until they feel at the lowest point in order to fully realize the gambling that has made him lose a lot and not in terms of money alone. So in my opinion there must be a definite intention with all their heart first to stop. then they will be able to accept advice from family or people around them.
Yes, someone have their own considerations, so it's only natural that they still hide it from people because there are still many people who think gambling is something that is not good. Many people have experienced bad things because of gambling, and it cannot be cured easily. That is why those who are still hiding their gambling activities feel comfortable gambling without anyone knowing, and maybe they will still hide it for a long time. Everything will depend on how their self-control can protect them from all the problems that can arise from gambling. However, those who still hide their gambling activities must be wary of the tendency to continue gambling if they experience defeat. It can trigger them to become addicted to gambling if they cannot control themselves in gambling.

The reason gambling is not seen as a good thing is because, it has an impact that will harm someone when they have experienced gambling addiction, not much different from drug addiction. So naturally this has a bad view in all people or society. because the impact that occurs is difficult to hide, therefore it is likely that the impact will be very visible to many people around it and it is difficult to cure it as you said, because it can be said to be almost equivalent to drug addiction where if to quit the addiction it must go through a rehabilitation phase which is very difficult for addicts to do. And to stop completely at once may be difficult but can do it slowly as you said, by reducing his gambling activities and it will provide an opportunity to be able to stop gambling even though slowly, but it doesn't matter because those who go from ordinary to addiction certainly go through the process but quickly, unlike the problem to cure his addiction, they have to do it gradually, step by step. If they are consistent maybe they will be able to quickly recover from the addiction. Although the chances are said to be very slim but there is no harm in trying it because this will also produce good and positive values for themselves.

We know that stopping gambling is difficult, but we can try to reduce gambling activities because by still trying to control ourselves by reducing our gambling time and money, we can avoid gambling addiction. Something that has been done repeatedly will form a habit, so if someone wants to reduce their gambling activities, they have to form a new habit so they can start reducing it. A person must have a strong intention and determination to start, whereas if he still wants to gamble, that means he must start practicing his intention and determination so that he can stop himself from gambling. But if he loses money and no one in his family knows that he has been gambling too often, he could become seriously addicted to gambling, and no one can help him.

Yes, it is difficult to quit gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover from the addiction that has been attached and even ingrained with them. But there must be a way out if they really have the intention to quit the addiction itself. By doing new things when they want to gamble it will make them little by little able to leave the gambling addiction activity, for example when he wants to gamble he ventures into sports such as playing basketball, or tennis. That he can do or do other things that he likes because there are still many other things that are more useful than continuing to monitor gambling with little body movement,  but by exercising they will move all their limbs which of course will be healthy for themselves. It's true that they must have strong intentions and determination and also be consistent in what they want, of course it's not easy but if they are really consistent,  I think it will work well. If they are still half-hearted to stop gambling I think they are just wasting their time, even though they have tried but they themselves must admit that they have not been wholehearted to stop then it is better for them to gamble until the lowest point or the lowest point they don't have anything because it runs out by selling it and using it for gambling, that way they will realize by themselves do not need to get advice and encouragement from others who support them. And I don't think they have to gamble until they are old.
2139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 23, 2023, 09:10:55 AM
This is the Premier League and everything is possible, nobody believes that Bournemouth could beat Newcastle United with a 2-goal difference. Burnley is playing at home against Westham United and if they play well they can beat Westham United or get a draw from them. Burnley should not be underestimated because they will fight for points to get out of the relegation zone.
The result was beyond my expectations from the start when Newcastle submitted without being able to respond. Bournemouth can still get points again against Sheffield United. Even though Bournemouth had to visit their opponent home ground, it wasn't a big problem but apart from that Sheffield United last match went quite well being able to hold Brighton to a draw. So both Bournemouth and Sheffield United can still show each other tough competition at their respective levels. It could be said that these two clubs are both fighting to avoid the lowest position in the standings. Meanwhile, for Burnley there is nothing they can do, just being able to achieve 1 win is clearly not a positive fate in the EPL.
2140  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎰 FlukyOne.com | The Ulimitate Online Casino Experience on: November 23, 2023, 08:55:10 AM
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