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2141  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: November 08, 2016, 07:47:19 AM
Scientist does not believe in god because they believing that all things or all in this world and created by science and not god but for us who don't have good studies on science and all things in science we do believe in god and we have big faith on him i believe in god that's 100% i always experienced how really good he is.

There's nothing wrong with that dude and i think that believing in god is actually a good thing. Not all can be explained by science and a lot of great scientists also believe that there is a supreme being that architected everything

In addition, there are loads of good scientists who know that God exists, through scientific observations, and observations of the wonders of nature.

With regard to all people, those who don't want to understand the existence of God, do it because they DON'T WANT to understand... not because there isn't any science that shows God. Actually, science that shows God is all around us in nature and the universe.

Cool

If they believe in something that does not exist they are delusional.

A lot of smart people are sick.  Both physically and mentally. Not sure what your point is.

Just because they are scientists and we're born into a particular religion and believe the bs their religion teaches does not makes them sane.  They are just as insane as the guys who kill themselves or others in the name of religion.  Fundamentally, there is no difference.  Both are sick.

The point is this, science proves the existence of God, and nature shows it by how it operates. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 + The Atheist Delusion - proof of the existence of God + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380 )

In addition, you can research it both ways. Are you sure that you simply aren't following your desires rather than the proof?

Cool

No it did not.  Who won the Nobel price in Physics for the proof of God existence?

I must have missed it Smiley
2142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: November 08, 2016, 07:22:24 AM
Scientist does not believe in god because they believing that all things or all in this world and created by science and not god but for us who don't have good studies on science and all things in science we do believe in god and we have big faith on him i believe in god that's 100% i always experienced how really good he is.

There's nothing wrong with that dude and i think that believing in god is actually a good thing. Not all can be explained by science and a lot of great scientists also believe that there is a supreme being that architected everything

In addition, there are loads of good scientists who know that God exists, through scientific observations, and observations of the wonders of nature.

With regard to all people, those who don't want to understand the existence of God, do it because they DON'T WANT to understand... not because there isn't any science that shows God. Actually, science that shows God is all around us in nature and the universe.

Cool

If they believe in something that does not exist they are delusional.

A lot of smart people are sick.  Both physically and mentally. Not sure what your point is.

Just because they are scientists and we're born into a particular religion and believe the bs their religion teaches does not makes them sane.  They are just as insane as the guys who kill themselves or others in the name of religion.  Fundamentally, there is no difference.  Both are sick.
2143  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: November 02, 2016, 11:19:48 PM
I think religious people are healthier due to the fact that they often do not drink alcohol, lead a healthy lifestyle. That is why their body is stronger and more resistant to various viruses

I think religious people are mentally sick.

I don't need religion to tell me what is right or wrong.  I don't drink, smoke or use drugs.  I exercise, eat organic food, take my vitamins every day.  And I certainly do not believe in some made up stories from bronze age or 6th century written by some goat herders for other goat herders.  I have no respect for any religions or people who believe in this shit.

To me, religious people are sick people that should be locked up in mental institutions.  

Religions are just well organized cults.
2144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: November 02, 2016, 02:19:22 AM
everyone believes in the miracles which wants to believe. Many stories about the healing of the sick, who allegedly helped the church. But I do not believe it. I think that the way health is not related to religion

If there weren't any miracles, the Church would never have gotten any start. Why not? Because people do good to other people without the Church. There is no reason to have a Church without the miracles making it strong.

Islam is the other way. Islam doesn't have any miracles. But Islam is strong because of the Stockholm syndrome. Muslims make captives of other people. If the people don't convert to Islam, ultimately they kill them.

In cases where the other people are of a strong nation like America, the Muslims might wait for a long time until they have strength, before they kill the non-Muslims - in America.

Cool

They have a blind Muhammad flying to heaven on a winged horse in the middle of the night!!!!  That should qualify as a miracle, no?

Just like your favorite fellow who walked on water and turned water into wine....

Every religion myth has miracles....
2145  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: November 02, 2016, 02:13:12 AM
Over 60 pages and not once did anyone prove god exists... great fucking topic you religitards

you are right, nobody prove thats about God exists

Two baalers, fervent advocates of a heliocentric religion, which brought atheism in existence.

I won't be dealing with you, but here you have more than 120 pages proof of a Creator:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.260



 

You are not well.  Seek help.  You are delusional.
2146  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: August 07, 2016, 03:05:13 AM

I am wondering a bit about religions, the ones form mid east - in these ones there is a character called Jesus, so I'm told, as the stories in the religion storybooks goes, that this character in fact is the only begotten of the father. My question is how was this character beget? usually it takes 2 to beget some one. in the storybook is tells of father, who counts as 1, but nowhere is told about mother. How does this 'only begottenness' work in this storybook? This is now the character in his everlastingness, without human involvement.


It never happened.  How could it?  You need a sperm and an egg.  No sperm, no baby.

The whole story was made up, from the very beginning.

God wanted to forgive people for their sins (which he knew they would commit when he created them), so he sent his son (or himself) to die on a cross, to be killed by the very people who he wanted to forgive sins for, to pay for the sins of mortals.  Why not just forgive them in the first place?  By this logic he should be sending his son every year or so to forgive the sins of men.  Plenty of "sins" committed since year 33 AD and no Jesus, God or Holy Spirit in sight.

Or better yet, make people such so that they don't commit any sins.  How hard would it be for God who created everything to do that?  Easy peasy lemon squeezy....

Either way the story has some big holes and people are just afraid to talk about it.

The writers of the Old/New testament were uneducated bronze age schmucks who did not think this through.


2147  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: August 03, 2016, 03:39:58 AM
Yes, i definitely believe in god. God created everything and were so blessed that God created human and give theme knowledge so that here we are today right now, earning money from bit coin so we must be thankful for that. and we must tell everyone that god created all from this world and we should thank him for that.

It is bitcoin not bit coin.

What proof do you have that God exist?  I don't see God anywhere.  If he existed he would be one sick motherfucker.  Creating people just to kill them with viruses and other incurable diseases is
really sick.

Nobody created Earth and all living creatures 6000 years ago, if that is what you are implying.

We should be thankful that we are alive, yes.  But not to "God", but to our parents. 

Your imaginary God did not copulate with your mother to create you, your father did.
2148  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Save the planet or not on: July 28, 2016, 03:34:40 AM


Many years talk about global warming, pollution. What do you think about it? Can it be reversed?

Ask yourself this question:  Why you think it matters?  Well, it does not, we experience a small, tiny blip on the evolutionary scale.

Life will evolve with or without us.

You think you can save Earth?  If pushed to far, Earth will shake off humanity like a bad habit.

The human impact on the environment cannot be reversed because global population doubles every 60 years or so (currently it is 70/1.13).

Google: doubling time before you talk about solutions.

2149  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: July 28, 2016, 03:24:05 AM
Yes, I believe in God.

FYI: You are to write God as G-o-d, not g-o-d.

My reasons: Nature follows an orderly and precise pattern, so precise that you can forecast the whether. Scientific principles are based on the precise laws of nature, we have technology because nature can be counted on to behave in a particular manner ALL the time.
That screams creation.

Nature was created, that is why it's so precise.
If you say no it wasn't, you might as well tell me bitcoin and the blockchain just came into existence, they were not developed by someone.

You are fucking kidding me?  Earthquakes, tsunamis, Ebola, HIV.  Precise my ass.

Why the fuck there are people born with birth defects?  Precise design?  You've got to be kidding me!!!

Where is bitcoin or blockchain NOT in the BIBLE, TALMUD or QURAN?  God forgot to put it in?

You are a retard if you believe in God, god or any imaginary ghosts, angels, demons or other shit that does not exist.

2150  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Eid Mubarak :) on: July 10, 2016, 04:51:28 AM
Thank you very much. and from my side to all Muslim bitcoiners Eid Mubarak. Allah bless you all. and may accept your Worship Khatm Quran. Taravih and worships. Always have good wishes.

Happy Eid Mubarak.  Love all people, including women, kufars and gays.

May you kill less non-Muslim people this year.

Take your medication, read your Quran, pray 12 times a day.  Allah is great, invisible but great (in your head).

Who is killing Muslims? If Muslims are killing Non-Muslims than who is responsible for thousand of Muslims killings?
Muslim are not killing nun Muslims keep it in your mind. Muslims are the most peaceful people of the world. the respect all the religions. in turn the non Muslims have aggressive attitude against the Muslims. All the Muslims countries are in war zone due to non Muslims and you have to accept the fact.

Just go easy on your 6th century myth and stop bombing and executing people that is all I'm saying.

Your Quran is a truckload of really bad ideas, if you don't see it, you are morons.

2151  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pool: Is the creation of artificial superinteligence dangerous? on: July 10, 2016, 04:41:26 AM
AI might end up replacing us.  Is it dangerous to us?  Probably.

Should we worry about it?  No.  It is part of life's evolution.  It is going to happen whether you legislate or not.

If we are meant to be replaced by AI, we'll be replaced by AI.

First there will be hybrids, then pure silicon life forms.  

No big deal, life will continue in one form or another.
2152  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: July 10, 2016, 04:33:03 AM
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Christians say things like, "God says homosexuality is a sin"... well... that's not what God said in the bible... God commands you to MURDER them... personally... God tells you to MURDER homosexuals (because for some reason he can't do it himself)... if you are not murdering them, you are not following God's command...

Your sky god is evil, don't do it!

God doesn't command anyone today to murder anyone.

In O.T. times God commanded the people of Israel as a nation to kill certain groups of people.
Cool

Your god is very fickle. What about tomorrow?


Rather, He reacts in perfection, perfectly, to fickle, wicked humans.    Cool

The wicked fickle ones he created,  deliberately making them wicked and fickle, all the time knowing they would act wicked and fickle because he's omnipotent.

Then gets angry because they act wicked and fickle.

Sounds legit.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sounds like you don't know how to say what you are trying to express.

God wrote the laws that we are to obey in our hearts. Our sensitivity has been waning over the thousands of years because of entropy. We can barely "feel" the laws in our hearts any longer. Yet, if you go out and murder someone, especially for no reason at all, you will feel the law in your heart rising up and telling you that you did wrong.

The other basic laws are there in our hearts, as well. They prick us a little when we disobey them. So, we avoid disobeying them at times, but then indulge the disobedience at other times. God reacts to this fickleness of ours perfectly in ways designed to offer us salvation from this disobedience, which is destroying.

Some people like you, have almost entirely glossed over their conscience, or at least parts of it. They have hardened themselves against the guilt that they feel, because they know there is no way to perfectly correct anything that they have done wrong. And they don't like feeling the prick of their guilt all the time.

God offers forgiveness for all this wrong that people have done. He offers it through the sacrifice that Jesus did, when He gave up His life on the cross. Jesus as God had the strength to take the mistakes of all people in His death. Jesus as man was punished, because it was mankind that sinned. Jesus as God was restored to life after 3 days in the grave, because nobody can destroy God.

It's all there for you. Freedom from the guilt in your heart is waiting for you. Faith in Jesus and the work that He did on the cross is how you access it. Once you believe in Jesus and forgiveness comes to you, then fill yourself on the Bible (starting with the New Testament) so that your faith is strengthened, so that you can have everlasting life in Heaven with us.

Cool

Let's make one thing clear:

God did not write anything.  40 or more, bronze age psychopaths wrote bible "laws", over the course of 1500-2000 years.

2153  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How old is earth on: July 10, 2016, 04:27:41 AM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

How old are you?  Three?



2154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Eid Mubarak :) on: July 07, 2016, 10:32:45 AM
Thank you very much. and from my side to all Muslim bitcoiners Eid Mubarak. Allah bless you all. and may accept your Worship Khatm Quran. Taravih and worships. Always have good wishes.

Happy Eid Mubarak.  Love all people, including women, kufars and gays.

May you kill less non-Muslim people this year.

Take your medication, read your Quran, pray 12 times a day.  Allah is great, invisible but great (in your head).
2155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There IS life after DEATH: Scientists reveal shock findings on: July 07, 2016, 10:28:40 AM
yes it is a fact. being Muslim we believe it that there is life after death. i think there are other religions who also have a strong believe that there is life after death.

Why don't you guys just kill yourself and go straight to paradise?  If you believe in life after death, why bother waiting for death.  Just do it and live forever in the afterlife.

Why are you waiting for death?



You just don't get it, do you? Paradise isn't the most important thing. Worshiping and praising God is way more important - recognizing He exists is the start of praise.

God placed us here for reasons of His own. Suicide is an attempt at nullifying God's purposes in placing us here, thereby becoming counter to praise and worship. This makes suicide a separation from Paradise, but an entrance into Hell.

To be sure, there are times when self-inflicted death is praising God. "Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."

Living and dying for God is way more important than Paradise. Paradise is simply the aftereffect of living and dying for God.

Cool
we are the owner of our life it is to God and has the power to take it. we cannot take the life of even an animal . Allah says that he created humans for his worship in this world ans he will give us the reward in the second life. in this world all the things are for the benifit of human so we should thanks all and worship Him in this life

Sounds like your God has some confidence issues.  Probably was molested as a child.

Asking to be worshiped?  What for? so that he can feel better about himself?  Is he some insecure child?  

Muslims are taking lives of animals, including other humans as we speak.  

It seems to me you guys don't really believe in after life.  If you did, you would kill yourself without hesitation.


this life is not our to take. it is the property of our Allah and He has the right to take it. Allah create human for His worship and made this world and all animals ans birds desert oceans mountains and plants and trees for the benefit of human. and we are getting benefit from the world.

Except, the Muslims are the ones pulling the trigger.  I guess it is Allah in your twisted mind.
2156  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The less you own, the more you have on: June 29, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
I think you on to something.  I have noticed the same thing.  The more you own the less freedom you have.
2157  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VOTE BREXIT on 23 June, UK on: June 24, 2016, 02:36:46 AM
41.9% Reporting
Votes
Remain a member of the European Union
48.9%
5,819,095
Leave the European Union
51.1%
6,076,476

Hope it stays like that.  London will be the key.

Another few hours...
2158  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There IS life after DEATH: Scientists reveal shock findings on: June 23, 2016, 06:38:32 PM
Don't get me wrong, af_newbie. I am not trying to humiliate you in the least. I am trying to get you to wake up to the fact that God exists, before it is too late for you.

Cool

Humiliate me?  You are insane.   Anyway I really don't have patience to help you with your reading comprehension.  Try Scholastic books first.

Again, God is in your head and in your head only.  Trust me.  There is no evidence of him existing anywhere else.




Hmm.. There is no evidence consciousness is inside your head either. When there is a brain damage or a coma we are unconscious (aware of what's around us) When we sleep we are unconscious (aware of what's around us). But consciousness does not stop when we wake up.

Consciousness could be living outside our brain. See that's the problem when we want to use a tool to explain itself and why it exists without understanding the first thing about it.

If the parallel between an electronic circuit and the brain is the same, and if there is zero tissue damage we should be able to wake up the dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NQKEFeFKsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VEwcvJJeck


Are we sure the same consciousness comes back... or something else?




When you sleep your senses shutdown (your brain is ignoring the inputs), you are not aware of your surroundings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

When you awake they come back online.  You are conscious.

The neural networks that process stimuli from your eyes, ears, your skin are ALWAYS in your brain.

End of story.

What can trigger your waking up? Sensory input.

Definitely.  Brain is probably setting threshold on what level of inputs to ignore.  Sometimes you might be sleeping light, any noise can wake you up.
Sometimes you sleep deep, and you need an extra slap on the face to wake up.

I suspect when you are really tired and your body senses an urgent need for sleep, the threshold is set really high so only a strong input will wake you up.

When your body senses you had enough sleep, the brain lowers the threshold so you start hearing/feeling what is happening around you and you wake up.

2159  Other / Politics & Society / German TV just reported - armed gunman wounded at least 25 in a movie theater on: June 23, 2016, 02:53:34 PM
masked gunman wounded at least 25, more to come...

He barricaded himself....

Viernheim, Germany

They just killed the motherfucker.
2160  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There IS life after DEATH: Scientists reveal shock findings on: June 23, 2016, 01:39:07 PM
Well without proof I still believe in the life after death. I believe that heaven and hell exist. ....

That is the reason why religious scams are so successful.  Religious people don't care if what they believe is actually true.

They will believe it anyway, NO MATTER WHAT.

Well I'm guessing that the OP wants to discuss particularly the scientific evaluations and assessments of life and death, not exactly theoretical and spiritual. See scientists quote unquote have managed to find proof. I guess it would be worth it to review this.

Our organism and its neural network behaves similar to a capacitor in an electric system.  You might see the system operating for short while after power is removed and the system discharges stored capacity/electric potential.  Neurons might continue to fire after blood stops flowing and pressure drops.  Cells will continue to die off, but not all at once.  The actual dying process is not an ON/OFF type of thing.  It takes few minutes for all cells to die.

After an hour of no blood to your brain, you'll definitely be dead.  Three minutes (as per OP) is quite possible.  
System will discharge, cells will die, and even if heart starts pumping blood after an hour, nothing will happen.  It will be like pumping blood to a chicken in your freezer.

The longer you are out the greater chances of a permanent brain damage.
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