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1181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to stop paying taxes, and get out from under government control. on: August 23, 2019, 02:26:15 AM

Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

Cool

Even if it were legal you should not be allowed to do this.

People who do not want to pay taxes in the USA should not be allowed to live permanently in the US, own any property, be a citizen, etc.

You don't want to pay taxes? Fine, you will be stripped of the US citizenship, or Green Card, your property, the bank accounts will be seized without compensation and you can immigrate to any country that will take you.

Either you are part of that society or you are not.  Being part of that society means you have to contribute to it.

Selfish leeches should be removed, or incarcerated IMHO.

All you tax "resisters" will be put in jail and your property will be seized, one way or another.  Only complete morons can follow your logic.

"I don't have to pay taxes but I will drive on public roads, drink water from public aquifers, send my kids to public schools, get my government IDs or other services, register my real property, etc."

Are you a complete moron, or you are just pretending to be one?

That is a very socialist/communist way of thinking.  I want stuff but I don't want to pay for it.

Not only is this legal, it's also lawful. It has to do with contract law. Living in your definition of the USA doesn't have anything to do with it. The USA is what upholds what I have written, and many people are doing it all the time, with more learning how.

People are finding that, if they were born in a State, that they are not really US citizens... although the US accepts them readily. So, they are changing their status on paper to State citizen through things like this - http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html.

What happens when you become a State citizen and not a US citizen, with regard to income taxes? You don't have to file with the IRS... except to tell them that you are not making any agreements with them. All State taxes are based on IRS returns. No IRS return = no State return, either. Totally legal and lawful.

If you are the kind of person who wants to pay, great! Pay. But why do you want to take my freedom to NOT pay away from me? You are a slave maker, at least in spirit. And you want to make slaves of anybody who is free, especially if they use the law to be free.

At best you are a hypocrite. At worst you are a complete controller/slave-maker. That's way more socialistic and communistic than exercising your freedom.

Cool

LOL. Even if you are not a US citizen living in the US, you are subject to withholding taxes, property taxes, etc.

Give up your US citizenship, see what happens.  You will be an outlaw in no time.  No money, no SSN, no job, and might be picked up by ICE, LOL.

You guys just drink too much moonshine, LOL.
1182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to stop paying taxes, and get out from under government control. on: August 22, 2019, 12:56:32 PM
US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.

It's actually not illegal to not pay your taxes in the USA.  You can't be arrested for refusing to pay.

Lying on your taxes is a different story.

Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

Cool

Even if it were legal you should not be allowed to do this.

People who do not want to pay taxes in the USA should not be allowed to live permanently in the US, own any property, be a citizen, etc.

You don't want to pay taxes? Fine, you will be stripped of the US citizenship, or Green Card, your property, the bank accounts will be seized without compensation and you can immigrate to any country that will take you.

Either you are part of that society or you are not.  Being part of that society means you have to contribute to it.

Selfish leeches should be removed, or incarcerated IMHO.

All you tax "resisters" will be put in jail and your property will be seized, one way or another.  Only complete morons can follow your logic.

"I don't have to pay taxes but I will drive on public roads, drink water from public aquifers, send my kids to public schools, get my government IDs or other services, register my real property, etc."

Are you a complete moron, or you are just pretending to be one?

That is a very socialist/communist way of thinking.  I want stuff but I don't want to pay for it.
1183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 17, 2019, 01:55:01 AM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue.  There is nothing to prove.  It is a fact.  End of story.  The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14



I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones.  Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible

Even if these things are not possible^^, still no proof for evolution. Or show the DNA sequence in thousands of animal descendants that would be needed to prove evolution. Where is it?

The question isn't where we come from. The question is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Every species on Earth share DNA.  We share 26% of our DNA with single-cell organisms, 44% with bees, 50% with bananas, 99.6% with chimpanzees. 

You did not study evolution at all.  You cannot even ask the right questions.  You have no idea what it is and why it is a fact.
1184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 17, 2019, 12:07:43 AM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue.  There is nothing to prove.  It is a fact.  End of story.  The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14



I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones.  Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible
1185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 16, 2019, 11:34:50 PM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

Cool

BADecker, I found your old interview on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzzb8THZdY


Why don't you come right out and say it? Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Evolution of life on this planet is an undisputed FACT.

You can shout at the top of your lungs that it is a hoax or that Earth is 6000 years old with a steel dome over it but the facts remain, well, facts.

Evolution is a fact, Earth is billions of years old.  It is a planet, like any other of the billions of planets in billions of star systems in billions of galaxies.

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue.  There is nothing to prove.  It is a fact.  End of story.  The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14

1186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 16, 2019, 06:38:06 PM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

Cool

BADecker, I found your old interview on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzzb8THZdY


Why don't you come right out and say it? Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Evolution of life on this planet is an undisputed FACT.

You can shout at the top of your lungs that it is a hoax or that Earth is 6000 years old with a steel dome over it but the facts remain, well, facts.

Evolution is a fact, Earth is billions of years old.  It is a planet, like any other of the billions of planets in billions of star systems in billions of galaxies.
1187  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 16, 2019, 01:25:14 PM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

Cool

BADecker, I found your old interview on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzzb8THZdY
1188  Other / Archival / Re: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics on: August 12, 2019, 02:14:57 PM
MYTH: America's best days are ahead of us.

FACT: If you're not utterly ashamed to be an American right now, its because you're not paying attention.

MYTH: Thousands of people are following through on their word to emigrate from America if Trump becomes president.

FACT: I am. I was also planning on moving if Hillary became president, because fuck this.

I bought a plane ticket for a 1 month trip to the Philippines to see if I can make it there doing freelance editing, writing and tutoring work on the internet. The cost of living here is ridiculously expensive compared to there, but I think I could live comfortably as my own boss over there. Having been to Luzon once before for a couple weeks, it won't be an overwhelmingly foreign experience for me. It's really not that different from anywhere else, just impoverished, crowded and with desperation. Still, there's far more crackheads out of their mind in my current neighborhood than there are per square mile over there, and far more guns.

After having spent a decade of my life trying to convince white-collar criminals to stop abusing the health insurance system at the expense of the poor and the sickly and being met with opposition at every level, I'm giving up trying to have a "normal," run-of-the-mill life. America is supposed to be better than other countries because of the way we treat people, but we treat our own people like shit -- especially poor people, which are _most_ people (despite America being the richest country on earth). If there were better benefits to agreeing to be part of the beehive collective, perhaps I'd be more inclined to put up with an unfulfilling career working for an un-respectable boss. But the benefits suck and I can no longer be scared into complacency.

My goal is to find an employer in the Philippines that will sponsor my work visa so I can live there with my girlfriend, who is a citizen and currently lives there. She's from an impoverished part of Pangasinan, the kind of place where $200 is life-changing money. I feel like I can make more of a positive difference over there than here, so with any luck I will have moved out of the U.S. by spring.

I'm thinking about creating some sort of fundraiser so people who wanted to move out of the U.S. but can't in reality can donate me money to help pay for my transition. Then I could post updates about my move from the fundraiser page so they could live through me vicariously.

If you like this idea, you can show your support by leaving me a donation at the address in my profile, then I'll know that maybe the general public might do the same and I should start a GoFundMe or something.. Here's my booking confirmation for my ticket to Manila. Thanks for reading this!



You have no idea what you are getting yourself into.  Travelling might be very educational for you.
You will be back in 2-3 years, with your tail between your legs.  Only then you'll know that North America, Europe are the best places to live and raise your family. 

You can find good, safe, cheap places to live right here in the US.  You have not looked hard enough.

BTW, it is not just your girlfriend you'll be supporting, all her extended family and their families will be on your "payroll". LOL.

Go on an extended vacation, for a few months, that is about it.  Never relocate permanently or give up your US citizenship.  That is just plain stupid.

How are you going to support yourself, teaching English?  What is the average net worth of English teachers abroad?
1189  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: August 11, 2019, 01:10:12 PM
The reason the USSR fell is that they couldn't motivate their people to work hard. In fact, their regulation of their people stifled the people into making (and then drinking) some of the best Vodka in the world.

The USA is stifling its people with regulations, as well. But the USA has one thing the USSR didn't... the common law jury. As long as jury members have some sense left, they will veto the judge and the government.

Cool

Fuck me dead!  I guess you never heard of Stakhanovites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement

Work hard?  They worked them to exhaustion and in some cases to death.

The empire collapsed because of central mismanagement, logistic inefficiencies, poor planning, elimination of private property, incompetent communist leaders at pretty much every level, and corruption at all levels.

Workers' hard work is what held this monster together, despite the ill-formed system.

Under Stalin, you either worked hard or you did not work (live) at all.
1190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders goes viral on the Joe Rogan Experience on: August 09, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
I don't see how corporate profits would increase if he implements what he preaches.

I don't give a shit about corporate profits.
...

You will when you and everyone you know will lose their jobs, and will not be able to get a minimum wage job.

Economics 101.

You don't understand the capitalist system.  You are poor and don't know why.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Everyone is going to lose their jobs if Sanders is elected president? You don't even have any inkling of how stupid that actually sounds, do you.

Why does every smarmy, conspiracist know-it-all dipshit on the forum converge in P&S?

Your American education system has failed you that is why you don't understand my comment.
1191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders goes viral on the Joe Rogan Experience on: August 09, 2019, 05:11:07 PM
I don't see how corporate profits would increase if he implements what he preaches.

I don't give a shit about corporate profits.
...

You will when you and everyone you know will lose their jobs, and will not be able to get a minimum wage job.

Economics 101.

You don't understand the capitalist system.  You are poor and don't know why.
1192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders goes viral on the Joe Rogan Experience on: August 09, 2019, 03:33:08 PM
LOL.  The stock market will drop 80% if this moron gets elected.

Capital will flee to Asia.  USD will collapse. Gold will be re-priced, north of 3K. US military complex will be undermined which will lead to major changes to the world's political map.

China, Russia will exert their might, annex few countries, control Africa and the Middle East.  South America will turn socialist and follow in the footsteps of Venezuela.

You better hope Bernie is not elected.  His election would lead to structural economic and political changes that will not be easy to reverse.

People were saying the exact same things about Trump - maybe even worse - and what actually happened? Nothing. Nothing happened. There's a lot of butt hurt people walking around moaning about how awful he is but really nothing has changed. The presidency is more of a figurehead position. The tide will likely turn against Trump in 2020, but will the machinations of the government actually change, regardless of who replaces him? Slightly, at best.

I don't see how corporate profits would increase if he implements what he preaches.

What you mean nothing has changed?  Look where the stock market is since Trump was elected.  Look at the corporate profits under Trump. 

Under Bernie, the US debt will double in the first year. The drug, gun stocks will be collapse which will bring the rest of the stock market to its knees.  Corporate profits will suffer across the board.
1193  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie Sanders goes viral on the Joe Rogan Experience on: August 09, 2019, 03:11:39 PM
Bernie Sanders went on to the JRE podcast and got over 5 million views over a couple of days. During a little over an hour, Bernie has time to make his agenda clear, unlike what we saw in the democratic debates.

If you're at all interested in what a Bernie Presidency might be like, and I believe he has a shot it's a good watch.

I know the topic has been covered already but they only thread I found here was a trash-fire that got locked by the person who posted it.

I'll look around and if there's a better thread I might just delete this one.

LOL.  The stock market will drop 80% if this moron gets elected.

Capital will flee to Asia.  USD will collapse. Gold will be re-priced, north of 3K. US military complex will be undermined which will lead to major changes to the world's political map.

China, Russia will exert their might, annex few countries, control Africa and the Middle East.  South America will turn socialist and follow in the footsteps of Venezuela.

You better hope Bernie is not elected.  His election would lead to structural economic and political changes that will not be easy to reverse.

1194  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: August 09, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

Burden of proof in on the one who claims something, and as u said there is a lot of evodence that we landed on moon, while those that claim we didnt, have no evidence.

But that doesn't really work. Here's why.

Almost all the people don't know how to understand the proof enough to use it to prove anything. So, they have to take the word of those that DO know how to understand the proof. This means that we are right back to the original point... who to believe when they say they understand the proof.

Cool

Let me ask you this: do you really think that SSSR wouldnt "expose" this  conspiracy if they had any proof that moon landing was fake?

Right up until moon landing SSSR was ahead of US, and if first competitor( and favourite to win the race at the time) didnt try or could  to debunk all this, and that tells you everything you have to know about it.


Well, maybe you are an old Russian who actually knows how Commies in the USSR used to think.

Cool

Wow, you are so ignorant of history, it is truly amazing.  Did you even go to school?  Let me guess, you were homeschooled.

The guy made an excellent point.  Soviets had agents all over the US, they would have exposed anything they could find to come on top.
They lost big time.  There was nothing they could do other than to watch.
1195  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [New Zealand] Far-right extremism to be included in official terror warnings on: August 09, 2019, 04:43:43 AM
This is an interesting narrative. Funny when I go on youtube and put in the words "ANTIFA ATTACKS" I am treated to endless hours of footage of these leftist groups engaged in violence and general criminal activity. Some how I can't seem to find the same for this invisible scourge of this right wing terrorist uprising. Just a week ago some one who was a self proclaimed member of ANTIFA armed with a rifle attacked an ICE facility with maltov cocktails before being shot to death. How long ago was that fake bomb guy and you are still screaming from the mountain tops about it? Leftist violence is regular, full of actual injuries, and under reported. "right wing" violence is sporadic, blown out of proportion, and over reported. Leftist violence has been a regular occurrence since at least 2016. If you are against political violence just perhaps we should look at groups like ANTIFA which actively and openly are engaged in criminal activity, assaults, attempted murders, attacks on government facilities, etc. Nah, lets ignore that because they found some wing bat a year ago with a Trump hat.

False flag operations by right-wing shills, as well as fake videos and fake news sites Wink

As opposed to these far right wing radicals literally committing mass murders which are documented heavily.

But you know that, being a state agent, don't you Mr. Techshare, the spam-a-lot king Wink

I think you are blinded by your political views.

Left is more emotional and radical by definition.  They are revolutionaries by definition.  They oppose the existing capitalist system.

Distribution of wealth, equality of outcome, etc.

1196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun Control Poll on: July 31, 2019, 11:06:04 PM
Please reply:

1 - Yes, this needs to happen yesterday

2 - No, I like things just the way they are

3 - Not sure



The Protector: Gun Control Dapp
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  The Protector is a decentralized application that will add a condition that must be met before the weapon can fire. The condition is: the weapon cannot fire unless existing gunfire is detected.

If all guns have this feature, none of them will be able to fire.
1197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 31, 2019, 03:43:17 PM
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CMD II - BAdecker aka the Bible defender who will kill you if you offend the Bible, he believes Science was invented by the Devil, Earth is 6000 years old, Evolution is a hoax, etc.
...

Funny enough the so-called 'skeptics' who are all into 'science' seem to think that too...and they like it!

These 'skeptics' seem like a gaggle of real creepers.  The kind of folks who are rabidly pro-vaccine because they want more autistic kids around so they can get more 'dates' so-to-speak.

I'm an atheist and a science buff but I cannot understand why anyone would give a shit if someone believes in creationism or whatever.  A better use of energy is to study science than to worry about them.

OK, a decade ago I used to have a good time making fun of the fundies and their silliness.  It's true and I regret it.  I now feel that my past behavior is a reflection of my having been influenced by the crypto-Kabbalahists who have their own reasons for hating Jesus specifically and know how to recruit the wayward goyim to help work toward their goals.  They are actually well on their way to getting 'Christ' out of 'Christianity'.  It's an amazing sight to behold and the world will definitely NOT be a better place when they replace 'a single Jew' with 'all Jews' as an object of worship (under threat of decapitation.)



Tribalism runs deep in your veins.

The simple fact is that we all are just smart apes.  Jews, Hindus, Jew-haters, you, me, Christians, Muslims, all humans.

Why expose the silliness of their beliefs? Because they cause physical harm by instituting and legalizing discrimination.
1198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Older Man Treated Like Crap During Meeting with Entitled City Council Members on: July 30, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMrBFNoHBkg

Listen to this cunt at 0:58 seconds

I feel bad for this guy, like honestly all of you should be fired, when it went to the camera of you every single one of you was looking down at your phone. What are you doing playing fucking flappy bird? That one chick was on tinder for sure.

Voting people to vote for us is GREAT!

Old man about to talk about democracy in communism meeting. LOL

That is why the French invented the guillotine.

That Juarez bitch needs some slapping.  What an ignorant twat?
1199  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 30, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
^^^ BADecker is some kind of devil worshiper, he's one of the Jew's pet boobs.

Daylight was created first, before the Sun, Moon and stars. I suspect daylight is energized by scalar waves, electromagnetic waves with a negligible transverse (magnetic) component making them akin to sound waves.

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." -- Genesis 1:3

What BAD is doing in his above statement is ascribing mystical magical powers to God (Zeus), he's attempting to strawman ridiculous concepts to turn you away. God didn't just snap his fingers and say allah-kazam and presto universe. God is a living breathing Titan (Ezekiel 1:26 & Isaiah 40:22) who creates things with his hands and tools not magic:

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so." --  Genesis 1:6-7, KJV

"Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands." -- Psalm 102:25, KJV

"Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever." -- Psalm 104:5, KJV

"When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:" -- Proverbs 8:27, KJV

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." -- Psalms 19:1, KJV

"Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:" -- Psalm 104:3, KJV

"I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded." -- Isaiah 45:12, KJV

"Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together." -- Isaiah 48:13

"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;" -- Job 38:4-6, KJV

"Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands." -- Psalm 102:25, KJV


The Bible is clear, God physically built the Earth (a plain covered by a dome with electric lighting), he doesn't have magic powers.

Do you mean like a giant Amish man building a barn? LOL.

I guess the CMD (Christian Mental Disorder) comes in various degrees:

CMD I - notbatman aka batshit crazy lunatic who lost touch with even the most fundamental, physical reality

CMD II - BAdecker aka the Bible defender who will kill you if you offend the Bible, he believes Science was invented by the Devil, Earth is 6000 years old, Evolution is a hoax, etc.

CMD III - CoinCube aka the philosopher who does not really know what to believe anymore, so he invents his dogma as he desires.  He still believes Jesus is the savior of mankind and only unconditional faith in Jesus will get you to heaven. All other non-civilized stuff in the Bible was written as a metaphor for love, obedience and God's glory.


1200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: July 29, 2019, 02:21:49 AM

Crap video. if god can prevent evil in heaven then why hasn't he done it already? Please, a 10 year old would understand how illogical it is.

It works like this:

At the time God made everything, there was no evil. There was only good and better.

God works in everything, because none of it would work at all if God did not work it. Since there wasn't any evil originally, there was no reason for God to NOT move in full force with the thing He was doing... bringing to birth children.

Then evil entered through the children and the devil selecting evil rather than good. But God was already moving in the direction of maintaining all things. You don't simply tell God to put on the brakes when He does something with His strength. The thing He did with His strength was to maintain everything... some of it with free choice, some of it evil, and some good.

The thing that God is doing to get rid of evil is, God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter. This present universe will crash, and once it does, there will be no remembrance of either the good or evil here. So, God is destroying the evil in His own way, even though a few people must live in pain for a hundred years here. When it is done, there will be no remembrance that it even happened.

God will take the people who are on His side - in favor of Him - to the new universe. The others will be destroyed in Hell, because they are the evil that God is getting rid of. Of course, because of the kind of beings people are, it will take all eternity for them to be destroyed. But they asked for it.

Cool

''God is making a new universe where evil will not be allowed to enter.'' Then why didn't he make this one like that to begin with LOL, how illogical can you guys be??

How in the world dumb are you? God made it this way so that people could prove to themselves what their free will would do. How did they prove it to themselves? By the way they used it.

Oh sure. God could have just let them be what they wanted to be. And then they would wake up in H or H and wonder why they were there. But this way they don't have any excuse for the place they go. They can see how they chose it. But once there, there won't be any looking back, because of the pain, or because of the joy.

I mean, if you want freedom to choose the good or the bad, make your choice. And if you don't want the bad, turn the other way and choose the good.

The new universe, or the decaying old (Hell)... is simply the reward for the choice made.

What? You don't want the freedom to choose? So that you don't choose the wrong thing? You of all people have the knowledge to choose the good rather than the bad. And you seem to only want the bad. So, what's the difference for you? You are going where you are going because you chose it.

What? You don't like the idea that some other people don't know how to make the right choice, or don't have an easy time of choosing? Well, make the right choice, and then get out there and help them make the right choice by becoming a preacher yourself. As it is, you are only trying to get them to make the wrong choice. What's the matter? Do you think their presence will matter at all to you once you are in Hell?

Cool

This bit about the new universe is kind of new information. LOL.

Are you on God's mailing list?  You seem to know a lot about what your God wants and what he did, is doing and will do in the future.

Hmm, are you sure, maybe you are God?
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