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2241  Economy / Economics / Re: Iceland is ‘Europe’s last Bitcoin mining refuge,’ but concerns emerge on: March 01, 2023, 01:33:10 AM
The researcher estimated that the country’s BTC mining industry consumes around 120 megawatts of electricity. This equates to a global hash rate of 1.3%, which isn’t much.

Iceldn has produced around 18Twh of electricity, taking the standard model available now (not preorder), it can power up around 600k miners, which would make between 15-20% of the total hashrate. That is using all the energy for mining (no cooling or anything else), and shutting down every other industry, hospital, school, and nightlamp in the country. So the fact that they still produce 1.3% is a feat of its own since that requires close to 8% of all the electricity produced in the country, again, assuming only relatively new gear, with half of the electricity going to the industry.
Now, that 8% is giving ~$100 million in bitcoin revenue a year, Iceland exports 2.3 billion! in aluminum and that created 4000 permanent jobs.

You do the thinking on what they will choose to supply with electricity.  Wink

2242  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance - where is it located? on: March 01, 2023, 01:01:08 AM
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Well, I think what this is is the beauty of the blockchain, right, so you don’t have to … like where’s the Bitcoin office, because Bitcoin doesn’t have an office. -CZ

So there you have it.

There are some addresses pointing towards Malta or Cayman Islands, however no clear public info about their official headquaters to be found.

Binance Holdings Limited is registered in the Cayman Islands, but they are not licensed by the CIMA to operate a cryptocurrency exchange there, so they use that Cayman-based shell company to run other Ltds in different countries. There is no office and no license in Malta either.

Checking wikipedia, some pages say they are not registered/unknow, some say "Society of Delaware".  Huh

That's Binance.us, incorporated in Delaware, again a virtual office.

How does a company like Binance pay taxes (if at all?) and under which law are they to respond to any disbutes?

They don't and they don't again! Don't worry, funds are #SAFU, /s!
2243  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Mining difficulty VS price on: February 28, 2023, 10:12:54 PM
Bitcoin mining difficulty level always impacts the price of the Bitcoin market

In reality, it never happened and it would be stupid to do so!
This is not oil or coal or copper we're talking which has a global consumption that is heavily influenced by the price, here no matter what the price is the amount of daily produced coins will adjust to being the same every two weeks after each fluctuation.

On top of that, everyone seems to ignore the fact that difficulty can't increase overnight if profitability goes to the moon, we had record profitability per each TH/s two years ago simply because there weren't enough gears to be turned on and mine, they had to be produced, shipped installed, which took time to do so. Thus, even if the price was sliding and profitability was going down that gear was already ordered and in transit and got installed at lower levels, that's the reason you see it growing although the price is going down.

Second thing, the difficulty will still be able to grow even with flat prices, that is because of improvement in efficiency for newer gear, so you're going to have the same consumption, in the end, game same profits margins for miners, but overall the difficulty and hashrate of the network will be higher.

This is a nice graph:
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/mining_profitability-hashrate-btc-sma30.html#3y

It shows how 3 years ago prolonged levels of low profitability were keeping the hashrate growth moderate, then fast forward while despite price going down high levels of profitability were keeping the hashrate going up until again the equilibrium will be reached and the graph repeats itself.




2244  Economy / Economics / Re: The Return of the Barter Trade at Rural Communities in Nigeria on: February 28, 2023, 09:50:01 PM
Nigeria is in a very difficult state, the banks in my region are no longer operating. I went to the market today to get buy foodstuff, the whole place was unusually scanty with just a few customers. Interestingly, many of the traders have adopted POS machines as payment gateway, it seems to be the only viable choice since cash is so scarce.



Showed this yesterday to my father, had a good laugh at it, so:
-use of porous material, not clean material in contact with food
-no fridge to keep the mandatory contact surface under 5C  temperature
-no clean utensils used for intermediary meat processing, no designed space for depositing them between usage
-no mandatory gloves used while serving customers
-no sign of running water, scraps directly in plain view, meat of different kinds in the same space
-no label, no packaging, no readable label on the date and provenance of the meat, no sign of the last inspection
-let's not even talk about pest control
-probably mentioning something as mesophilic risks would be futile
-if it's not the cameraman's shadow then obviously traces of metmyoglobin which means already a lot of time since butchering

As a seller, I would love to do business there, as a client I would go vegan.

Nigerians have always shown a very high rate of irresponsibility especially from the leadership angle and that has been one of the major challenges we have.

Well, that's the bulletproof way of turning a country into one big ****.
The moment the population doesn't care at all who you put in power, the moment there is no such thing as consequences for imbecile or crooked leaders the country enters a death spiral of agony til it finally pushes the rest button, which although it will lead to possible better times with will come also with a lot of pain, and in some cases, the population will rebel against reforms and it will revert back to the spiral, a never-ending nightmare and it's better to act now if you still have the chance until there nothign to rescue left. Otherwise...there are plenty of examples where this leads to!




2245  Economy / Economics / Re: The current situation in the country Nigeria. on: February 28, 2023, 09:11:31 PM
That doesn't have access to bank are suffering. Just imagine a pregnant woman died in a hospital just because there was no cash the network was bad for transfer.

This is just bullshit!
You can say anything about how crappy the banking services, are and how bad the timing is but to pin the death of a pregnant woman in a hospital on the banks is just stupid. Imagine you would be in a car accident and before rescuing you the ambulance would check if you're insured or demand you to transfer money before they take you to the hospital, at least 20% of the daily care fee, book your hospital on bookingdotcom, I can already see the advert.

This is all the blame on the doctors and here they would be immediately fired and never allowed to practice again, plus slapped with so much damages to pay to the family that they will end up on the streets. I don't know if this really happens it's an exaggeration, it has a bit of truth but the rest is false, but in case it did really happen like this then that country has much bigger problems than a cash shortage.

2246  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Gas ban - A problem for Europe or suicide for Russia? on: February 28, 2023, 08:54:08 PM
And despite all these, the gas prices (as per latest data from Dutch TTF, the price stands at $584 per 1,000 cubic meter), which is almost 4 times the price they had in 2020.

Love the moving goalposts, like a shitcoin developer clings to different dates depending on how he wishes to weasel his way out of this.
Remember this garbage you posted just a few months ago?

The last time I checked, Dutch TTF gas prices were at $1,288 per thousand cubic meters. This is almost 10 times the 2020 price. And the joke is that winter hasn't started yet. How confident are the EU nations, that the prices will remain in the $1,000-$1,500 range during the winter season?

When you keep posting shit like this when you keep being called on the stupid things you say, when it's obvious you have no clue what you're talking about when you've become the laughing stock with that stupid claim of Russia occupying half of Ukraine by May, don't you think it's time to move your quota shitposting somewhere else? Seriously, you have no clue about the countries at war, you have no clue about economics, you have no clue about anything, so stop using server space with your daily garbage 4 liners!
When you have 30 posts in this topic just quoting the TTF price, maybe you need to find a different playground, somewhere where you don't stand out like the scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz story for the same reason, of just straws and no functioning connecting synapses.

Well-known economist Andrei Movchan believes that the militarization of the economy is a very effective way of redistributing national wealth from richer people to less poor people.  
For example, there is a resident of a small village in the center of Russia.  His salary is 20,000 - 30,000 rubles.  He has no chance to increase his income.  
However, as a result of these events, he is mobilized and receives a salary of 200,000 rubles (that is, his salary has increased 10 times).  Yes, he may die in the war, but in any case, the income of residents of large Russian cities (Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, etc.) will be redistributed in favor of residents of small towns and villages.

You assume:
- "volunteers" get paid differently than normal army pay (which is not 200k rubles)
-  they will get back alive
-  they will really get paid that much
-  they will get paid at all
Then you go ignoring the effect of the 300k able men who were the single providers for most families in the poorest regions, 300k dead and mauled men whose families won't get any help, just like the crew of Moskva, because, well it was an accident and they didn't die on combat duty. Oh wait, it's not even a war, it's a special operation so after it ends they won't be receiving any payment like veterans.
2247  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Wirex- Bitcoin Debit Card | Buy Bitcoin | Mobile Banking | Send Money on: February 28, 2023, 06:40:02 PM
So its not a safe platform to invest at wirex??
I didn't listen anything negative about wirex until now

Safe as not pulling an exit scam? Probably, since they make a shitload of$ on their fees and others' fees and extra hidden fees.
Safe as in not ever getting hacked or getting in trouble with their investment strategies the way ftx went? That's questionable.
Overall, investing in ridiculous APY on their website in some unknown shitcoins? Not safe at all!

I've been a wirex customer enough to be really cautious about them, one thing you should know from the start, it's almost impossible to contact someone and have a live chat with them, you will end up shutting down your laptop and going to sleep rather than trying to get ahold of a real customer support person. Second, all those advertisements on returns are really dangerous, not even mentioning they offer 50x leverage for their trading, an easy way to simply lose a ton in a glitch, and glitches do happen on their platform, I've been stuck with forever loading screens before even while just viewing my balance and not just once.

I'm not a fan of the biggest CEXs around but they are a better option than wirex.
Wirex is doing a good job at having a card and an easy way to top it up and spend, that works 99% great, the rest not really a thing.

Really only use wirex when I have no other option anymore not to mention I earned 5000 WXT tokens using the card which I can do NOTHING with.  can't sell em can't send em out. nothing so your earning WXT tokens that can't be swapped unless I have 80,000 of them minimum and they won't let me send them out to another exchange.

Just go earn the other 75k   Roll Eyes, I only need 65k with 4500 in the bank , so to earn 60000, which is around 250 euros, and at a 0.5% crypto back it means I need to spend around 50k euros with their card to be able to cash in my rewards, and not die and wirex not to go bankrupt by that time.


2248  Other / Meta / Re: Sleazy sex link sent to my pm on: February 28, 2023, 06:09:59 PM
Out of curiosity, I visited the "dating" site, and they ask for some info about you (Social engineering) and then probably link you to a profile of someone as a "beautiful woman" who will try to scam you afterward.

It's not even that complicated it's just a spam ad with a Whitelabel page with different intros and clips, the so-called inquiries are just to make it look like they really care about who you are and they have an actual female on that entire website, I've seen those ads before and a few years ago I even helped one friend to install their flash popups on his blogs.
The main company behind this is flirt(dot)com and the guy spamming is just earning from refferal through his affiliate program, the giveaway is in the blocked page ublock showed,

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*tds/ae?tds_campaign=s3770yal&tdsId=s3770yal_r&s1=int&utm_source=int

So he probably thought the could spam the entire forum with his links and maybe earn $30-50 from a paying customer.

If he wanted to do a social engineering attack and especially target Philip he would have said he is selling mining gear or has a deal in solar panels, far better chances to catch him with that  Grin Grin
2249  Economy / Economics / Re: G20 Meet ups, Global Crypto Rules based on IMF & FSB Synthesis Paper... on: February 28, 2023, 05:48:53 PM
The G20 is a forum, it's not an organization, it has no way of enforcing anything between participants, it's just an informal forum where everyone bitches about their problems, the rest agree and disagree, and when they return home every single country is doing things as before.

To expect something crypto-related that will end in a unanimously agreed regulation of some kind is a fantasy, not while China which has already banned almost everything crypto-related is a member, how do you think that will sound? To make things worse there is Japan and SK with tighter regulation already in place and some that don't really give a damn like Brazil and Mexico.

So, nothing to see here, they will have far bigger issues to discuss than focus on crypto.
2250  Economy / Economics / Re: Nigerian Central Bank seeks new CBDC partner on: February 28, 2023, 05:37:34 PM
Surprisingly, even with the cash crunch that seem to be holding Nigerians ransom, they still prefer to use BTC for transactions more than the E-naira even after it promised to improve retail payment.

Do you have some numbers to compare usage on it?
Because with 200 million in Nigeria even a fraction of it, like 0.1% doing one transaction a day would mean 200k extra transactions, which, obviously are not there in the blockchain at all! Besides a comparison would mean having access to government data, and those have not also been revealed, not even mentioning the last week when the ordinal hype raised the transaction fee to at least 10sat/b, close to half a dollar for a simple tx, not something really appealing for a country with a minimum wage around ~$100.

Plus, if you are unable to use a debit card hard chance you are knowledgeable enough to use a Bitcoin wallet.

They should just focus on BTC instead and do what El Salvador did.

Nigeria doesn't have the $ as a currency to not care that much about the exchange rate or conversions or capital outflow, for Salvador it was simple, the central bank was not involved in money printing, money security, or anything else.




2251  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the Bitcoin Maimi conference 2022 contribute to Bitcoin price. on: February 28, 2023, 04:08:57 PM
Bitcoin's role as edge over inflation was one of the numerous things discussed and and according to
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Morgan Creek Capital founder Mark Yusko, the problem isn’t inflation per se — it’s currency devaluation.
Pointing out it is scenerio of currency devaluation as 1BTC will always equal 1BTC using the policy of the federal reserve as reference. Stating the value of Bitcoin in dollar might become relevant over time as monetary policy continues to erode consumers’ and investors’ purchasing power.

1$=1$ and 1Luna=1Luna as long as you don't sell or try to buy BTC with it 10 years later.
I find it amusing how while we're going down 1BTC=1BTC but when we're in a bull market everyone forgets about that and starts with 1BTC =x $.

As for the conference itself, it's no longer 2015-2017 when every major event was something new, never seen before, when you had literally millions who've never heard of it before and so, just to point out a thing, since we're talking about Miami, the Miami-Dade Arena was called FTX Arena from 2012, one year prior to the conference, this was just an event wth no authority that can take legal decisions presently.

The conference was more like an auto show, where everyone goes to see what's new and companies invest for publicity, no car maker decides the prices for the cars or the wages for their workers based on that.


Oh...btw

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The topics of many panels related to sustainability and environmental, social and governance (ESG) standards when it came to Bitcoin mining. Cointelegraph spoke to Greg Beard, chief executive officer of Stronghold Digital Mining

one year later, Stronghold is returning placed orders to avoid bankruptcy.  Grin
Not really the guy you want to take advice from, right?


2252  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Is Metal Seed Storage Safe in an Earthquake? on: February 26, 2023, 05:31:41 PM
From Amazon I can find water and fireproof safe box starting from $35+ (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=water+and+fireproof+safe+box+for+home&crid=2OYU5UWUVG3FJ&sprefix=water+and+fireproof+%2Caps%2C485&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_20) so its worth buying and can be more cheaper with some deals and coupons or nearby shops, but more compact the safe then it will be easier to keep it secured and hidden since we are only going to keep piece of paper(s).
Honestly, I wouldn't cheap out on a good safety deposit box if you really want it to be water and fireproof. I am sure it would be a horrible feeling getting one that turns out to be semi-water/fire proof. $30 for a good product seems like a toy for children. I am thinking more like $100 if you want something worth the trouble. And I would also Google any safe I intend to buy and look for professional reviews where they show if the product really protects the contents against water and fire.  
I said we can get from 30 so for someone who just looking for basic boxes can consider these inexpensive which also got have 4+ ratings the actual sturdy one which I noticed is 299 if I am not wrong and it looks good.

I checked a few of those and there are 5 ratings from people that do mention they haven't been through the fire with it, so, are those ratings completely true if the box wasn't actually put to the test?

From my army training and the years I spent with inspections on the farm's buildings, there are a few things you need to look at in those so-called safe boxes, the temperature they are rated and the amount of time they are rated for at that temperature.
So if it's safe for 2000C without the time then it means it's garbage.
No safe box should ever have under an hour of constant +1000C, the average house fire goes to 800 and it can keep those for more than half an hour without intervention, so most of those "silicone fiber glass " and other stuff is useless, they throw at you a certification that really means nothing, like the 30$ box that shows a UL94 classification which is for the material itself, not for the protection of the content.
Two guys are asking for the fire rating and the shop owner just avoids the question going bla bla bla.

I don;'t know maybe it's just me but storing more than 1 BTC in a cheap $20 alibaba safe (yeah I know it's amazon but I've seen enough resellers to not care anymore about the brand)  seems like a really not so good idea!



2253  Economy / Economics / Re: Rules of Taxes on: February 25, 2023, 05:17:06 AM
Agrar fruit and crypto is not the same tax asset. Most of the cryptos are categorized in the same tax asset class as precious metals. The difference is, that you consume food fast, but precious metals is a long term trading value.

Nobody here is talking about crypto or crypto taxation, OP wanted a simple answer on taxation on agricultural products.
Do read the message to which I replied!

So you first point from the quote is right. Under a certain amount of selling profit you does not have to pay taxes. Above you have to pay taxes - But: If you hold that kind of assets 1 year, you also have not to pay taxes for the profits. / Except stable coins and staking (other tax classes).

Of course it's right because that's what we're talking about, taxation for a yearly activity with a determined revenue that comes falls into different categories, non-taxable, taxable under 10% here as additional revenue but still beyond a certain amount, or taxable at 25%.

I don't understand why you felt the need to bring crypto into this, might as well talk about tourism taxation or revenues from copyright as they have just as little in common with agricultural stuff as crypto.
2254  Economy / Economics / Re: Rules of Taxes on: February 25, 2023, 03:57:55 AM
The outline of my question is whether in all countries, farmers, freelancers, or small micro-entrepreneurs who were not previously registered with the taxpayer have to report to the tax, or if they are not registered then they are not subject to the taxpayer?

There is no general rule for all countries.
I see another user saying you're from Indonesia, I don't speak the language, and I can't find anything on a simple search in google about how that works there but I can tell you how it works in my country, and this is not a general rule even for all the EU.

Any kind of farming you do which only involves utilizing the final crops for personal use, without you at any point engaging in other activity, like for example selling either the strawberries or the strawberry jam, it's not a taxable event and it doesn't need to be declared to the tax revenue services. But they are limits to what is considered personal usage, so you can't plant 2000 ha of corn and say it's for your morning cereals.

If you do sell your products to a third party, thus engaging in a taxable event, you are subject to taxation which works like this:
- your revenue is under a limit (depends on each country), you won't pay taxes but you need to declare the revenue
- your event is over the limit, you're treated like any business and you have to pay your taxes.

So basically, you plant a few melons and you eat yourself in your backyard you don't need to tell anyone, you plant a few and you sell them you need to register but you won't be taxed for 5 euros profit, you plant 100ha and sell them, you're a business and you need to register not only for tax but with the agricultural office also.

Again, and I must mention this, I don't know how the law woks in Indonesia, I'm just telling you from an EU citizen (who is has been for 20 years involved in agriculture) point of view.
2255  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: February 25, 2023, 03:34:30 AM
It's not that scary yet, wait for the moment when I turn bullish also, that's the moment you know something bad is going to happen  Grin

Lol, I remember you were bearish on difficulty and ever since the difficulty has doubled, I would be more interested in your thoughts about mining difficulty than price Tongue

I was more bearish because I wanted that to happen and I looked only at things that we were enforcing that view, that's the reason I don't trade because I'm not really good at differentiating between things I want to happen and things any cold-blooded analysis will tell me are more likely.

Now the bad news  Grin, even without real money at stake now I'm still bearish on the growth, not on the difficulty itself but on the pace it's going to grow from now on, without a price increase I don't see spectacular stuff like this event happening more than twice again, even without a negative adjustment. I'm away so I can't check the actual income for the last week but viabtc shows 6.5cents per Th/s doubling again with no price increase, common at 3 cents income most of them are going bankrupt before that.
So, growth, but timid growth compared to price more driven by already purchased gear than economic reasoning.
2256  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Is Metal Seed Storage Safe in an Earthquake? on: February 24, 2023, 11:56:50 AM
Either it is placed on the outside of the device, in which case it could easily get destroyed in such an event as an earthquake, or it is placed inside the device, in which case the range will be very short (if at all) given that the signal needs to penetrate the stainless steel in order to get out. I suppose you could engineer a device encased in stainless steel with just a very small antenna reaching the outside of the device, but you are now adding a lot of cost. You would need to access your back up semi regularly in order to recharge or replace the battery, which increases the risk of it being discovered.

Indeed, this is where storage gets way too complicated to make it a cheap thus affordable and reliable solution.

You either go for the cheap and easy way to deal with, like placing a tracker like an airbag in it, but which under 10 feet of concrete and rebar won't be detectable at all, Bluetooth doesn't penetrate that deep, or you go for a more complex and powerful solution which will need a third-party service, a huge battery that will increase the size, which might solve or add another problem on top of an existing one.

With a small box, it's highly possible it will not get noticed among the ruble just get thrown with the trash in a truck and dumped before you're even allowed to reach the scene of the disaster, with a huge box, there is the problem of it getting stolen as some might mistake it for safebox before you have the chance of getting it back. Plus if you make this big and durable, you have to hide it also pretty well in your house in normal times for the same reason, thieves getting in and thinking it's a safe box full of money, which actually it is  Wink

Does the average person really have that many places to store the credentials though? I feel like they don't, and by splitting it up in places which you don't own, you present yourself with even more risk. y.

Yeah, easier said than done.
It was hard for me to find a place to store a pair of keys in case both me and my wife lost ours, (obviously, the inside of the house was a no), and with a hardware wallet, you must exclude a person keeping those, so, how many people have 2- or 3 properties with land so they can bury a case or a box far away from prying eyes?

Can the average person think about all possibilities? I live in an area where there was no seismic or fires before, but we are near the sea, so I keep the seeds in its normal storage, it is in paper that is not a waterproof or fire. so if something like this happens, my wallet seeds will disappear.
The strange thing is that I feel safe and not even think about developing solutions for such days. I do not know, does everyone feel that?

If you're living above the third floor or even better you don't have tsunamis at all in your region there is not really a matter of concern. But you could at least laminate it to avoid normal degradation or accidents like your neighbor flooding your apartment.
2257  Economy / Economics / Re: Rules of Taxes on: February 24, 2023, 11:32:50 AM
1. vehicle tax
Obliged to pay once a year, but there are also those who do not pay and the authorities also do not come to the taxpayer's house and in the end it is left abandoned

It depends on the country's laws, but in most of them if you just abandon your vehicle it doesn't mean you stop getting taxed for it, it's still registered in your name it's your property, and you are going to have to pay tax until you void your registration, basically stating that the vehicle is not drivable or roadworthy anymore.

However, there is a provision that if someone has ever borrowed a large amount of money from a bank, even though the borrower was not notified by the taxpayer at first, in the end he was exposed to the taxpayer's accumulation of taxes over the years and he didn't know.

The borrower is the person who took the money, a tax payer is a normal citizen, and the borrower can't be notified by the tax payer more by the tax collecting agency in your country. Second, it doesn't matter if you borrow money or not, taxes are paid if you have any kind of event on hat revenue, and there is no such thing as not knowing about it.
You've earned $1000 from any kind of work, be it selling your crafts or doing a freelance job you must register and pay taxes, unless in your country revenues under a certain amount aren't taxable, but that doesn't matter you don't have to fill your taxation form, even if you're not going to pay a dime.

Let's say a farmer in 1 harvest (3-4 month) earns $2000, he will remain tax free if not registered or he doesn't register it whereas an employee from the start is already registered with the taxpayer even though their monthly salary is $300.

Unless your country clearly states that revenue from farming is not a taxable income for under x amount, what that farmer is doing is tax evasion, in most of your post you're mistaken tax dodging with tax exemption, thinking that if you're not paying it's just like that and it doesn't matter. The inability of your government to catch you doesn't make it legal.



2258  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Feb 2023] Mempool empty! Use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs! on: February 23, 2023, 10:52:20 AM
For me, I would not mind seeing a bit of a sustainable bump in the bitcoin fees and the use of blockspace, yet the fact of the matter seems to be that bitcoin seems to be already largely prepared to handle these kinds of spikes in usage and able to expand quite a bit beyond the various ways that it is currently being used.... because the mempool is continuing to clear without too many sustainable fee increases (so far) and whether the whole hashing power of the network is overbuilt or not, we have had a lot of increases in the hashrate too in the past week or two (perhaps partly inspired by cardinals/inscriptions, but also just seemingly that hashrate is just constantly going up.. "going up forever Laura.")..

Ordinals and their hype had no direct effect on the hashrate, the hype started so recently that it wouldn't have been time even for the gear to be ordered, less much already received and installed to make for the increase. Plus the timing is not there, the mempool was flooded by them by the 7th, the last difficulty retarget happened on the 12th and was negative.

It's most likely an incredible amount of gear that was ordered a month prior and was still stuck in deposits or farms that at prices below 20k  were running their gear in low mode, plus even some farms that were offline in the previous two weeks (we had a -0.49 adjusted prior). A combination of factors, but ordinals are not one of them.

That 11% increase in hashrate is going to lead to 11% less blocks. Considering the full blocks, I expect fees to go up a bit tomorrow.

Not necessarily, it depends a lot on where the growth was concentrated, even if it's a bit random and a lot of luck involved the first days saw a higher time block than the last ones, so it is possible the currently installed hashrate is still growing by a bit, a few 1-4%, so we might still have extra blocks even in this period.
Anyhow the hype is dying down, the weekend is coming and we only have 4vMb worth of tx in the mempool, most likely it's going to be empty next morning, and a lot of free space during the weekend for 1sat/b consolidations.

 
2259  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which BTC/mining related stock seems most promising going forward? on: February 23, 2023, 09:48:36 AM
Riot went from $10 In August of last year to $3 in December. Bitcoin to go this low would have to reach $3000.
Why add additional risk to your investment when you can clearly see these stocks don't even follow bitcoin's highs, but crash much harder every time bitcoin does?

That's not how it works.
You choose a peak point for one of them and then ignored the bitcoin price on the same dates.
Even by going by your scenario, August to date, you have
- riot from $10 to 6.5
- bitcoin at same price 24k
So no 3x difference, just a 33% loss on riot.

But if we choose other dates, for example, yoy
- you have riot at $15 down to $6.5
- you have bitcoin down from 41k to 24k
so a 35% loss for riot versus a 41% on BTC

Now let's go 3 years
- riot at $1.1 now 6.5
- bitcoin at $9k, not at 24k

With riot you have a 6x, with BTC you have nearly 3x.

Plus at no point in the last 3 years, you would have been able to take home a 100x revenue with BTC , you could have done that with Riot shares.
2260  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: February 23, 2023, 09:37:05 AM
The joy and fomo over this rally is scary, these gears that are coming online, stocks are getting sucked as they come, many random folks on social media are already picking their "best performing altcoin", all of this is not likely going to end well.

It's not that scary yet, wait for the moment when I turn bullish also, that's the moment you know something bad is going to happen  Grin
But I would agree that everyone seems to be acting like kids before a vacation, with so much exuberance and so much confidence that we're going to enter a completely bullish market and a period of mass adoption just like that, out of the blue suddenly complete reverse.

And in mining, even crazier
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Current Pace:   111.3786%  (1774 / 1592.77 expected, 181.23 ahead)

Ok, it might not be new gear, it might also be a lot of low/high modes getting switched, but we're still talking about at least 100k new, and for the rest it would mean half of the gear was running in the low settings, and suddenly, when the revenue went from 6 to 8 cents per th/s, it becomes more viable to mine full power, I find it near impossible to believe so much would be at such tight profit margins.

I'm glad I'm out of this and switched to hobby-style mining with just two of them left, I'm so relieved that I don't even care anymore if the revenue drops to 5 or even 3 cents per th/s, I'll let them mine till they die.

It could simply slide downwards for months to come and not go to a level above 20k. for 5 or ten years

Yup, permabull detected, I dare you to go to the WO topic and share this scenario!  Grin
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