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2361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 09:02:53 PM
if you leave out the MP hack followed by the rollback, VRC is still one of the best coins out there.

I mean our community is really big and on top active. There many people constantly submitting new ideas. Beside DRK I don't know any coin community which is so active. Even Litecoin is quiet compared to VRC.

We will see. The potential is still big, but it will take a lot of patience to get big.

I'm down 75% - not wise enough to put stop loss.. but IMHO, this lower price makes it easier to convince new investors to buy in..and I have not lost faith price will rebound.. been in bitcoin for 2 years and have tried to convince friends and families and acquaintances but they still find it hard to use, and they still don't have the patience to learn it. I agree with the devs' goal to have this mass adopted and used first..and it is important not to lose sight of that.

Instead of bitching here which some do, i respectfully would suggest that you sell your vericoins and trade other cartel pump and dump coins.. you might achieve more happiness

EDIT: i put in 32 btc all in all and its down to 75% now

So you have now what's worth 8 BTC or you have what's worth 24 BTC?

Either way yoshi, common sense, a very, very elemental one, would dictate that you are not equipped to give advice to anyone... on anything?

I bet those friends and family would pay much more attention to what you say and make much bigger efforts is instead of losing 75% of what you put in, you would have doubled your initial investment a couple times. Makes sense, doesn't it?
2362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
I could never imagine that once the lead vericoin developer, one of the PhD students will say that the three vericoin devs are incapable to compete with viacoin's Peter Todd and btcdark. I mean, your CV and team profile indicate more than this. Even I thought you would be able to compete with Ethereum's Buterin and Gavin Wood. Your statement about Ethereum's millions is not quite correct - your brigade will believe what you say as everything you do and don't do trigger a standing ovation from the cheerleaders, but as I happened to work in the industry I understand the core piece of Ethereum has been developing for long, many code were written before the IPO by one developer Gavin Wood (three of you would have to compete with him). Right now they have millions, but it was a massive code base, the core software "proof of concept 5" were delivered by a very few guys, technically 2-3 persons (even the team has 40 people) before the big money arrived.

It's quite clear, many investors assumed the vericoin devs will be able to write a successful altcoin software, that means compete with other software developers in altcoin. Yes only three of you, without adding any new developers to the team. It was the first time in crypto that PhD and MS developer credentials were associated with a coin, and I am sure every one here assumed, with that credential you are well equipped to compete with Peter Todd, Buterin and other altcoin developers. Again, it's related with promises or implying a promising operation. You let us know about your CV and software development background and when you claim experience in your CV you imply that you are capable to do the work. It seems from your answer that you are not (because it seems three of you are not enough, no time, no skills or whatever reasons). It seems we have to accept that vericoin will never compete with viacoin, cloak, ethereum, etc.


To be frank, they aren't the same kind of coin by any stretch of the imagination. VIA/Ether/etc. started after the BTC developers requested 2.0 activities not be used on the chain as it was bloating it. VeriCoin is becoming a currency that is easy to use for everyone with utility. We are working on different types of things than VIA/ETHER/etc.

We put our info out there so people would know that we are real people with an academic training. Not because we were trying to say "we're better than them" or the like. We're going to keep focusing on what we think is important: Utility, ease-of-use, and mass adoption. That's what we have built and that's what we are continuing to work on. Our blockchain 2.0 scheme for implementing a username system in the blockchain (outside of a name server) is something David is focused on in addition to stealth addresses (it's all integrated), Doug is working on the new announcement tech as well as a new wallet UI. And as Doug mentioned in VRC Radio, I'm helping to coordinate as well as get the marketing/community members that have joined the VeriLeaders project together and focused on how to more properly address the community/world than we have been doing. It's all a complicated game we're playing. It's not as easy as any of us thought it would be. There are plenty of hiccups. We're learning a lot from this and it's going to make VeriCoin a better coin and it's going to make us better developers and better community members.

No you are not, that's a fallacy. Especially the "mass adoption" portion... as we all have seen in just a few days by not ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT the ONLY plan you guys will ever have handed to you to really provoke massive AWARENESS and subsequent "mass adoption" through World Vericoin Day... Oh, sorry, of course you know better. Of course you have better plans. Of course you are "working" in better things... BULL CRAP. Again.
Fact is you got nothing. Fact is that Verisend, as you put it and as I posted here many times, is a waste of time and resources. Fact is that Dave is "working" on copy/pasting Boxxa. Fact is that he cannot even get the multipool working straight -and plese don't let me enter the multipool subject which is yet another can of worms on a different level-. Fact is that you don't have an strategy, a roadmap to get anywhere near mass adoption and that Doug doesn't know how to get the freaking wallets working decently... Peculiarly -and there's irony in that- the Windows one is the one still not working properly in spite of having a Microsoft employee on board as developer. Ironic indeed.

"There are plenty of hiccups...", what did you expect? And hiccups in what? You put the hiccups in the context of the strategies... when there's no strategy whatsoever. Oh yes, "mass adoption", the holy grail of crypto, is going to happen by... what exactly? What is your plan? Are you going to give Doug's paper to Joe Sixpack in Middle America, Kenya or Sebastopol and you expect they will "adopt"? Or you plan in catching that "mass adoption" with more presence in Bitcoin conferences (mind you, VeriCoin MUST be present in those, but not as part of any "mass adoption" strategy) and Pizza-parties at Bitcoin Centre?

It is very good indeed that you admit the shortcomings. It will be much, much better if you just cut the arrogance altogether, like 200 notches or more and fully admit that you have no idea whatsoever as to how to progress towards mass adoption. And start cleaning house before inviting anyone over: By making a DECENT website (this is not an enterprise, it will take a few minutes) where REGULAR people can get clear and simple information of what Vericoin is and aspires to be, so when they hit "merchants", for instance, don't find a blank page. Or read through Doug's paper and commit suicide by boredom after the first five paragraphs. Or go though the explanations of the "features" without understanding a single word of what those can do for them. That would be a very good first -second, after dropping the arrogance completely- step that should be followed by many more, like asking not of the idiotic band of cheerleaders but from those with the knowledge, experience and general wherewithal for HELP in devising -first- and implementing, second, the strategy to reach "mass adoption".

Losers in any part of the world, either self-described or obvious, cannot be of much help, can they? If someone is unemployed, usually there's a good reason behind that, isn't there? Start by yourselves, the devs, what the heck do you guys bring to the table, in terms of strategies and marketing... and yes, I take it that you have by now come down and left the high horse far away before you make that evaluation. There's capable -or was-, talented people in the community that has offered all kind of help. Some still do. People with skills, knowledge, experience... not just pipe dreams and good will. They will work with you, but you have to ask nicely. And support them enthusiastically. Understand?
2363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 03:53:24 AM
i think he is Asian.. he always starts posting when Asia wakes up, or is he?

Nah he's from Spain

Actually I believe he is from Reseda, California, somewhere around/on Yolanda Ave.

In case anyone is wondering... as baffling as that may be for anyone with half a brain, there's a police station at that location and not long ago I challenged a stupid coward that was propagating the idiocy that I was IE to meet me there, INSIDE -for his and my protection-, since he lived closed by and it was my backyard. So, ha ha has found that post... which is in these same Bitcointalk pages, so no mystery. The same goes for X, that definitely has a lot of time in his hands, way too much, to have gone through over 100 long posts to find something that has always been public and that he probably would only have had to ask. I would have answered, always the truth, provided it would have seemed a good idea at the time...
2364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 03:45:36 AM
@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

We had to make a few minor adjustments to the written agreement for the benefit of VeriCoin. We are doing this the right way and that takes time. Each day we are getting closer and closer and the agreement is getting better and better. We are not stringing this out on purpose, that would not benefit anyone in anyway.

More stooge crap. A deal is a deal and if it was signed what, are you trying to sell it to the community so it will look different from what it is? Are you fucking kidding?? Granted, you have plenty of corroboration that there are quite a few morons posting here but you KNOW only too well that the vast majority are (almost) as intelligent as you believe you are.

What I just said: More stooge crap... wow, wow, wow.
2365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 03:41:34 AM
i think he is Asian.. he always starts posting when Asia wakes up, or is he?

Nah he's from Spain

Actually I believe he is from Reseda, California, somewhere around/on Yolanda Ave.

You are actually both right, you and X. If you were people of more significance, I would be flattered for the amount of time both have spent "researching" me.... as it is, since I never, ever, lie, you could have just asked. I have posted publicly both and therefore, are out there for anyone to read. Or find. Or whatever.

Just another set of posts volunteered by people that don't consider themselves trolls but that, remarkably, never bring anything at all to the table.
Because bringing here where I am from is really, really irrelevant, in case your perturbed minds think otherwise...
2366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 12:22:24 AM
Jesus Barabbass....spam much?

Why do you feel the need to post mutliple times on the same page?

It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...
2367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
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get very valuable technology that no other crypto coin has

So if no other Crypto has it then there is no historical proof to back up that it will raise the price. If this technology is as good as your saying it would have been released already.

The devs admitedly are important for the price in the short term but long term it's more about the services built around the coin that will raise the price. I'm learning to code myself for this exact reason. Also if we are wanting to become a currency that is used for everyday purchases then we should be focusing our attention on knocking down the barriers of entry to purchase Vericoin. The proposed idea of Veribit in reverse using coinbase to give the illusion that it is a direct purchase is a brilliant idea from the devs.


Really? To create the illusion that you are doing something that you are NOT doing, in other words, to con the people, with an idea already implemented by others, is a "brilliant idea from the devs"? Really? Wow!
2368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 21, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...

Translate teamwork, respect, optimistic.

Key aspects you seem to severely lack. since you claimed to have invested in this coin I will respect you for that. You also have the right to be cautious too, that i agree on with you.

However, calling people clowns or worst judge someone you have never met, yet here you are bashing away. I previously mentioned this: You are harsh and quick to judge.


OK. Teamwork here = Socal and the cheerleaders shout "Go Patrick" while Nokster hits the bathroom during a hangout.

Respect = You quietly post 10 times that VRC will be @ 100k sat in the relatively near future, because it has "great devs that always deliver" (Huh??)

Optimistic = 100% certified delusional. Or Raevon, whichever comes first.

It is quite preposterous that you would pretend to even remotely know anything about what I lack and don't. Like respecting someone for investing in a coin (wow!).

I tend to call clowns, well clowns -an endearing profession worth of all my respect and then some, by the way-. The stooges were kind of clowns so I will accept that. It would be an insult, or even disrespect, if applied to someone or a team that has clear objectives and an equal clear path to, right or wrongly, go towards it. The Stooges never had that. Instead, they went around doing the craziest things will doing nothing at all... sounds familiar? Yes I am a bit harsh... only after corroboration, though. Quick to judge? I don't know, in crypto things go way faster than in the real world and if you got nothing to bring to the table it is up there, in open sight for all to know within a very short period of time.

I will remind you though that I have praised this team in the recent past for their honesty and transparency, which have set new standards in those departments in crypto. I have even supported -although there's no merit in it for they had no other choice- the  roll back. But if we are to call a spade a spade (and I am bound to do just that), everyone and his aunt knows by now that these three have nothing in the tech aspect to bring to VRC, nothing at all of any significance. True and proven I would call that rather than your choice, but hey, you have your way and I have mine. Quite frankly, there are no synergies in them so, respectfully, I'll disagree with your assessment.

I know you'd appreciate the nice ribbon.

Enjoy your popcorn.
2369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...

Weren't you just all about a supposed "Vericoin Day"?
Seems someone is butthurt that their idea is not going to happen.

I was all about doing something to get somewhere.

I withdrew of "my idea" shortly after corroborating that it did not have the enthusiastic support I demanded (and the idea required), from the dev team.

Oh and I was as critic as you can be of three stooges running this project long before I tried to salvage it, so nothing to do with "Vericoin Day".
2370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...
2371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
PROJECT JUGGERNAUT

-But who is this Dev and how can we be assured that the Vericoin price will respond and lift all boats higher.
In short, noone can guarantee prices but both I and the Devs have reviewed the 4th Dev's work and I feel confident he would be a tremendous, game changing type addition to the team.  Vericoin would immediately get very valuable technology that no other crypto coin has.  He is also very well known with an impeccable reputation and proven execution at delivering code that results in strong coin price appreciation.  This is why Pat has said that "this is a good idea" if the community can get behind it and I believe Doug also knows bringing this guy on could make Vericoin a potential top altcoin.  

-drkman/snapples/BigSnapples


I like the premise but to be honest, I haven't reviewed his work besides the websites related to them... so we aren't quite ready to sign off yet on this project. But if someone wants to help VeriCoin in ways we haven't considered as this developer appears to have suggested, there's no reason why we wouldn't be accepting of them. I am very concerned about the raising of almost 4% of the total coinage for a single person, however. I'm not sure it can be done. Yes, I will donate 50,000 coins myself if I believe it will benefit VeriCoin sufficiently.

The other devs and I haven't had much time to focus on this yet as we're working on what we were planning on announcing this past weekend. We will discuss this thoroughly after the announcement and will give it our due diligence. Of course, we'll have to talk to this potential developer, too.

It's also important to note that VeriCoin is not the project of the developers but the owners. Anyone can build anything for it. That's the beauty of open source. So if the community is on board, we will support the plans of the community. Keep the good ideas rolling in and if 1M VRC can be raised for a 4th developer, who's to say they don't belong?
awesome.. perfect response.. just what i wanted to hear!

+1

Sadly, we have morons in the house...
2372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 09:57:13 PM
project juggernaut is a great idea but i don't think we will get the donations needed... its simply too much... too bad though cause sounds great

Only a certain kind of individual would state this without knowing absolutely anything about the individual proposed. No need to state which.
2373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
PROJECT JUGGERNAUT

-But who is this Dev and how can we be assured that the Vericoin price will respond and lift all boats higher.
In short, noone can guarantee prices but both I and the Devs have reviewed the 4th Dev's work and I feel confident he would be a tremendous, game changing type addition to the team.  Vericoin would immediately get very valuable technology that no other crypto coin has.  He is also very well known with an impeccable reputation and proven execution at delivering code that results in strong coin price appreciation.  This is why Pat has said that "this is a good idea" if the community can get behind it and I believe Doug also knows bringing this guy on could make Vericoin a potential top altcoin.  

-drkman/snapples/BigSnapples


I like the premise but to be honest, I haven't reviewed his work besides the websites related to them... so we aren't quite ready to sign off yet on this project. But if someone wants to help VeriCoin in ways we haven't considered as this developer appears to have suggested, there's no reason why we wouldn't be accepting of them. I am very concerned about the raising of almost 4% of the total coinage for a single person, however. I'm not sure it can be done. Yes, I will donate 50,000 coins myself if I believe it will benefit VeriCoin sufficiently.

The other devs and I haven't had much time to focus on this yet as we're working on what we were planning on announcing this past weekend. We will discuss this thoroughly after the announcement and will give it our due diligence. Of course, we'll have to talk to this potential developer, too.

It's also important to note that VeriCoin is not the project of the developers but the owners. Anyone can build anything for it. That's the beauty of open source. So if the community is on board, we will support the plans of the community. Keep the good ideas rolling in and if 1M VRC can be raised for a 4th developer, who's to say they don't belong?


PROJECT FOUR STOOGES

If you still had any doubts, stooge number one just cleared it out: VeriCoin is, as long stated before, a ship without a helm, a hen without a head destined to doomdom if not saved by the community. Oh, the three stooges say they are still on board -they own the coins, we know that-, but for all intents and purposes, Elvis has left the building, I know you all know what I mean.

THAT said, I will propose PROJECT FOUR STOOGES. No the community is in no disposition to help (much) at present, but you guys do not need the help. Oh, morally we all be rooting for this project like we have not rooted for anything before and, who knows, when the coin reached 30k, the disposition will indeed have changed. Quite a bit.

So, once again, put your money where your mouth is. Why only 50k VRC each? Make it a round 100k each and get Juggernaut, aka the 4th stooge. That would be 400k right there. I'm sure he will be in in a flash is you tell them this is ready to go from start, right now. You want me to handle the negotiations? I guarantee he will agree...

So lets stop the bull and get the ball rolling. You will benefit and so will the entire community. And then, it will be the time, with factual results (we are talking here a couple of days, this is crypto!-, there will be the time to ask the community to pony up for the rest of the deal. So what say you? If you are willing to pony up 50k, you should be equally willing to double that to make it happen.

Otherwise it simply won't.
2374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 09:02:00 PM
PROJECT JUGGERNAUT
COMMITMENT OF DEVELOPMENT FUNDS; BOUNTY ADDRESS VVdqRP1Dmb6b7Q7hTK6eDk8pphf8mpV9n6

-What is Project Juggernaut?.....


I wouldn't even begin to think about donating anything until I get a name, location and professional background of this "developer". And 1 million VRC?!?! So you want the developer to become the 3rd largest holder of the coin without telling us anything serious about the guy.

Man... you got balls
He wouldn't become the 3rd largest holder unless he pushed us all the way to .001 and that would be a 10X from here so I'd say he would deserve it.

The real sad thing -but still very funny- is that you actually believe just one individual would be able, with his coding, to "push us" above .001.

I would recommend a nice, secluded institution but I'm afraid you're probably beyond that even at this point...
You are at a big disadvantage because I know his identity and thus I've seen first hand his ideas, coding and his team take more than 1 coin up over 10x and 20x and keep them there.  this is also why we don't have to pay him but a couple hundred thousand until VRC has already tripled or more in price so little to no risk for us until we all benefit together.

OK let me, first, offer a quick robot-portrait of yourself:

You are this guy that, after having significantly invested in DRK, saw his stash lose all the profits and quickly incur in losses before selling off ... to buy the "big opportunity in the downside spiral of VRC. Granted you have averaged down significantly but still it will take the price of VRC to reach nearly 30k to get to your average price or, maybe even get some gains... which you would of course not book and would sell in a panic on the next dump following you now patented brilliance in trading/investing in crypto.

Now, through your brief months in crypto, you of course know everything there's to know and pose as an ace trader, that has gotten in touch with some jerkoff posing as a brilliant coder (I wouldn't even be surprised if it is Templar 77, Carlitos...) who has somehow convinced you that he has the tech savvy and general smarts to take VRC to the moon. And, naturally, he has you convinced -although this idea is probably all yours- that just the announcement of his involvement, will make this coin double in price. And then much more.

It's really, really, funny.

Hey, I'll tell you what... You can prove all of us wrong here: Since Patrick is in, I am quite positive Doug and Dave will support Juggernaut. Even double the support, heck make it a round 100K each of you (you still have left 400k to fully benefit), so the four of you get your money back instantly. And then some.
Contrary to yours, drkman, this is a great idea, think about it, ok?You give 100k coins worth 10k and going down and retain 400k worth 10k and going down. As a result, you get instantly 400k worth at least double. The stooges benefit almost the same way since they have under 400k each already.
This is a win, win, and then win situation! And the four of you alone can pull it instantly, no need to bring the community in.

I'll tell you what, just between you and me: If you pull this off -and it is quite possible to happen, I'd say it would even be inevitable-, I'm sure you'll have the community eating out of the palm of your hand and they will give you and your Juggernaut plenty of donations to keep the ball rolling.

See what a GOOD idea is compared to a totally absurd one?

This should already have been done... except that X will take credit for it and will post that all happen because of the both at the Minnesota Fair. But who cares, right?


2375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 09:00:03 PM
Now that I barely have been able to stop laughing and I am in the process to compose myself, I have to go over this project JUGGERNAUT that if we are to believe this obviously deranged man, drkman, has the full support -and matching donation of 50k VRC- of none other than Patrick Nosker, the go to guy in the three stooges posing as developers of Vericoin. This is serious shit folks. This is, in no other words, admitting technically they cannot bring anything more to VRC -something painfully quite obvious for some time- and they want to bring in, at the expense of the community, of course, a 4th developer, somebody that actually knows how to code and that is probably some loser jerkoff pretending to be a genius but unable to have done anything remotely significant prior.

Now, we know that Dave cannot get his shit straight regarding the pool. We know that Doug cannot get his shit straight and come out with a working wallet. And we know Patrick... has a healthy appetite.... We should record them together and sell the videos as the new version of The Three Stooges. We will make more than with VRC for sure. And probably Netflix would bite, because they, quite frankly, are hilarious.

And, again, I am painfully rolling on the floor laughing with convulsions.

Some things are just too much to be able to keep a straight face... way too much.
2376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 08:46:32 PM
PROJECT JUGGERNAUT
COMMITMENT OF DEVELOPMENT FUNDS; BOUNTY ADDRESS VVdqRP1Dmb6b7Q7hTK6eDk8pphf8mpV9n6

-What is Project Juggernaut?.....


I wouldn't even begin to think about donating anything until I get a name, location and professional background of this "developer". And 1 million VRC?!?! So you want the developer to become the 3rd largest holder of the coin without telling us anything serious about the guy.

Man... you got balls
He wouldn't become the 3rd largest holder unless he pushed us all the way to .001 and that would be a 10X from here so I'd say he would deserve it.

The real sad thing -but still very funny- is that you actually believe just one individual would be able, with his coding, to "push us" above .001.

I would recommend a nice, secluded institution but I'm afraid you're probably beyond that even at this point...
2377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
PROJECT JUGGERNAUT
COMMITMENT OF DEVELOPMENT FUNDS; BOUNTY ADDRESS VVdqRP1Dmb6b7Q7hTK6eDk8pphf8mpV9n6

-What is Project Juggernaut?

A Juggernaut , in current English usage, is a literal or metaphorical force regarded as mercilessly unstoppable and I hope to help make it apply to Vericoin.
Project Juggernaut is a project I've been working on to recruit a very special 4th Developer permanently into the Vericoin family and integrate his first of its kind technology into the Vericoin codebase.  The ultimate goal of which is to strengthen the longterm foundation of Vericoin and ultimately position Vericoin as a Top 5 coin in altcoin market capitalization.  To achieve this I am asking the Vericoin community to consolidate a compensation package for this developer and his team and the connections that come with him.  The above VRC wallet is a special wallet to be used solely for this purpose and is being maintained by me.  Another address that the community chooses can also be utilized but the stipulations of the contract will dictate that all these funds will be refunded to donators if this 4th Dev is not brought in.

-How much is the compensation?
The requested compensation is 1 million VRC that only pays out to the new Dev as our mkcap rises and certain price milestones are crossed.  (as an example, 100k@.0002, 100k@.0003, 200k@.0004, 200k@.0006,....)
This is a great deal for the community because it means the new Dev is so confident that his ready to launch technologies and his joint work with the Vericoin Devs will make the price rise substantially, that he is willing to only be paid when he proves this fact with actual results that the community highly values.  I am requesting for each Vericoin holder to try to donate 10%-20% of their holdings to make Project Juggernaut happen.  I will personally be donating 50k VRC for my part in this endeavor and I have verbal commitments that atleast one of our Devs will match that donation if the community supports this so we are already 10% of the way there.

-But who is this Dev and how can we be assured that the Vericoin price will respond and lift all boats higher.
In short, noone can guarantee prices but both I and the Devs have reviewed the 4th Dev's work and I feel confident he would be a tremendous, game changing type addition to the team.  Vericoin would immediately get very valuable technology that no other crypto coin has.  He is also very well known with an impeccable reputation and proven execution at delivering code that results in strong coin price appreciation.  This is why Pat has said that "this is a good idea" if the community can get behind it and I believe Doug also knows bringing this guy on could make Vericoin a potential top altcoin.  

-But who are you?
When I first got into mining I saw that Darkcoin was the future in a world of junk coins and only mined and bought that.  And I see a similar opportunity here with Vericoin if we can make this a reality.  I probably own more Vericoins than every single person reading this thread and have staked since early June so I have a huge vested interest in the longterm price appreciation of this coin.  Hence my efforts in bringing in new top quality talent and technology to Vericoin.

-So how do I make money by giving up money??
It's a rising tide lifts all boats scenario.  For example, in Timeline 1 the community bickers and trashes the idea and noone donates.  In that timeline you have 50k VRC @ .0001 = 5BTC.

In Timeline 2 the community rallies and we raise the funds and complete Project Juggernaut.  The Dev announcement alone makes VRC double to .0002 and the coming new tech rallies VRC to .0003.  Instead of 50k VRC you have 40k because you previously donated 20% to the new Dev.  However, the price of VRC is now .0003 so your 40k VRC is now worth 12BTC!  Representing a whopping 140% gain over Timeline 1. AND WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED!  This part is obviously not guaranteed and represents a prediction on my part but it very useful as an example of how spending a little can earn you alot.

-I'm in, how do we make this happen?
I've created the bounty wallet above that will only do 2 things.  Pay Dev 4 at the agreed upon VRC price levels, or return funds to donators if we can't raise enough to bring him onboard.  Just donate to it and label the sending address in your wallet so you can keep track.  The hardest part is getting the ball rolling.  If we have other escrows the community likes then let's use them.  The key is not to lose this opportunity based on personal greed, inaction, or infighting.

-drkman/snapples/BigSnapples








Ok, let me get this straight, before I get sick of laughing on the floor in hysterics for 10 minutes, unable to stop:

This "Juggernaut" guy is our "secret weapon", right? Since it is obvious by now that we have three stooges as devs that cannot code their way out of a paperbag, you propose to hire (code name: Juggernaut), that is so good, already has such great technologies ready to go and has such a prestige in the crypto world that he cannot get arrested (he cannot find a job) and cannot launch his own crypto currency? Is that it?

You cannot be serious!

2378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 07:57:37 PM
Since I had already wasted my time, here it is:


I like it.

Before it went public I would fix "infraestructure" and "Staggerinly".

Otherwise I think it would reach certain people. Smiley


Multimillion spelled wrong too

Edit:  Oh geez several other misspellings too

Oh geez it was first copy and i didnt even bother to re-read it. Buy geez since you are counting and you are at three, how many more misspellings have you found? Several would be at least three more... gee thanks for proof reading it! Geeeesh...

Oh Geez whiz, I suppose there were NOT "several other misspellings too", after all ah?

What was there was, as we all already know, somebody completely full of shit.
2379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PES] Pesa - Anonymous Coin - No Premine - Dynamic Interest - PoStr on: August 20, 2014, 07:01:28 PM
Alex or Max,

Can you fill us in on anything that was discussed last night?

One problem with not having a hot fix is that we need to get Bittrex an updated wallet so we can have a free market.  I think this is very important.  Is there any kind of ETA?

The dev will be back in 2 days. According to Max, the fixes shouldn't take too long to implement, once there are no more inhibiting factors holding the development process back.

This is just funny. Pathetic, like before -only more so- but funny.

Only stooges like them will follow these idiots.
2380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: August 20, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
                             Flyer for the Bitcoin conference in Cologne on 2nd of September . Germany is a place where we get stuff done quickly.



What do you expect to get out from the German BTC conference where crypto currency literate audience will attend and most likely already know well vercioin and they have the reasons not to touch this coin? Besides that, the devs attended the US BTC conference, apart from a few pictures that show three young men in vericoin shirt the outcome of that conference is non existent. Your flyers for the German conference will not add anything to this declining process, except more disappointments. Sorry, I wish I would have a better news for you, but I don't have  Angry

Only the devs can reverse the decline of vericoin by developing the software and putting the hard work into the coin.

Agree on the assessment of both conferences, the one that the community paid for the three young men to go to Chicago in style -and then some-, and this upcoming one paid for by Reavon -maybe with some generous donations' help-. Oh, and the pizza-fest at the Bitcoin building, also.

As you sharply point out, it is a waste of resources to do anything at all directed at the "crypto currency literate audience" anywhere. Those have already long recognized this is the hobby of three kids with not much to bring on to the amazingly dynamic world of alternative currencies, leagues below the leaders -in developing- current and the ones that will be surging in the very near future. And, to put it mildly, they are not interested in the least.

As I have been saying for months now, the only chance this coin has -and it is a very slim one, getting slimmer by the minute- is to brand itself as the GOOD GUYS -with all it's implications- of crypto and, therefore, as the link to the real world, not the crypto-savvy.

Edit to add: And no, there's nothing the devs can do, since any software they would be capable of developing would be a -much inferior- side show to the features already implemented by others. Like I said above, not even remotely in the same league.
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